First off, I definitely did not mean to start a weight discussion here with the nickname inquiry. Plus size momma here. Advocate of beauty and health at every size. Moving on!
LtrllySusan wrote:The problem is by now they are pretty deep into that whole "This is Phil's actual bedroom" farce that they can't admit it's a set and that he has another separate bedroom. They could have handled it differently from the start, but maybe they weren't aware how hard it would be to make a guestroom look like a bedroom that someone actually lives in. So when they realised the bed was too big to fit next to the drawer and so on, it was already too late to change the story.
[offtopic]Does anyone find the drawer and bed table ... kinda ugly? I think that colour of wood just doesn't worked in a "crammed" setup like this, it's too heavy. But what do I know, I only have IKEA furniture [/offtopic]
I've been thinking about this recently. Like how they might respond to such comments/inquiries in a joint liveshow. I'm 95% they would just ignore those questions but 5% wonders if they might have a cheeky answer. Like Dan saying "Oh you caught him! Phil doesn't sleep in his bedroom because he's actually a robot". Nope. They're just going to ignore it.
I also hate the design and color of the dresser and the side table. I loved the old dresser (that I'm sure would not fit in this room) and wished he had a headboard to match in the old apartment. Now I like the new headboard and want the furniture to match. Though he probably thought white against a white wall wouldn't work. Grrr.
alittledizzy wrote:hiddenwombat wrote: the fact that the duvet cover is on UPSIDE DOWN is driving me insane. who can sleep with the snap button side by their face?! who doesnt realise they put the blanket on the bed that way??? i'm mad
someone who isn't actually sleeping in the bed. heh.
Pillow/duvet placement detectives: you are doing good work there. Idk why it didn't even occur to me to look at those.
On Phil calling it the same room: I wasn't taking it quite so literally as Phil trying to tell us nothing changed. I figured he was just repeated for new people that yes despite the fact that the duvet is the same, the walls are the same color with the same paintings, the dresser and bedside table are in the same positions, still with knickknacks, that they did move and it is a different room. If Phil were a youtuber I only casually watched main channel videos for once or twice a month I'm not sure I'd immediately realize that room as a new one. When they're talking about things like that, a lot of the time they're distilling it down for the most casual audience - even though the least casual audience has all the info and more.
Great catch with the pillow and duvet folks! Very good point dizzy!
awsugar wrote:Katka wrote:The whole bedroom thing is confusing me so much. I totally get why some of you (lol, most of you really) think it’s a set, your arguments are plausible. But I’m reluctant to believe it because it seems so sneaky and such a weird thing to do. It doesn’t make sense to me either. If they do in fact share a bedroom that they’ll never show us then what’s the point in having another sloppily set up bedroom as a set for Phil? Like, they know a big part of their fandom overanalyses stuff like that and will figure out something’s fishy right away since we never get to see Dan’s bedroom. So the beardroom, if that’s what it is, is a really flimsy lie and I think they could do better and have done better at hiding things in the past.
What’s making me doubt the beardroom theory is basically just the effort they must’ve put into the whole thing. If they don’t want to show Phil’s real bedroom (be it Dan’s or another separate bedroom, whatever), why not just have him film in the living room like Dan does? Why this sloppy set bedroom that most of the fans will see through right away? It might be a guest bedroom that Phil uses as a set – that would make sense to me in fact, but I still feel like lying about it being Phil’s real bedroom is the weirdest thing they’ve ever done – if that’s in fact what they’re doing. The whole thing is just really weird and I don’t know what to think about it anymore. But if the room is really as small as it seems to be I agree with you, there’s no way it’s Phil’s actual bedroom.
I don’t get the point of lying about it though. I’m pretty sure we would all have been okay with “This is our guest room that I film in because I’m not comfortable with filming in my real bedroom anymore” and it would have sparked way less phan suspicion than what they’re doing now.
Unless of course that’s Phil’s real bedroom after all and we’re just super paranoid about everything.
I’m stumped, really. I don’t really think I have an opinion on this because it’s too confusing.
I'm also not sure if I find this discussion invasive or not but here I am participating in it anyway.
i've been thinking about this and i think maybe phil is just attached to the bedroom as a background for his videos. dan's background change comes with a rebranding which phil is not doing. as he's said, he likes that bedding and feels no need to change it, maybe that extends to the whole background. it also feels just...right for his videos. if phil started filming in front of a desk i don think it'd fit his personality so i can see why he'd want to keep that even though he may no be sleeping in there anymore.
as for lying about it, i'm not sure. part of me thinks that they're not trying that hard to make it seem like a real room as part of their being more open about stuff thing. they probably know, if it is a set, that we'll draw that conclusion. maybe the 'same bedroom' thing is for casual fans and they're happy to let us interpret the room however we like because they'll never really address it. i doubt we'll ever see the moon room, at least in its entirety. i'm not sure if this all makes sense the way i wanted it to but i think maybe they're just not trying that hard to make it seem like a real bedroom cause they no longer really care what conclusions we draw because we're gping to draw them anyway.
Yes! All of this! The bed backdrop is very AmazingPhil. I saw an old video that mentioned when he started filming videos in the lounge of his Manchester flat he got comments that people missed the bed so he returned to filming in front of it (he also had the crazy shapes blanket draped across the sofa for some videos). Strong branding.
One last thought. I would not want to hang out in that room. Sleep maybe (if the bed wasn't so small). But they have two lounges now and I just don't see that bedroom as a retreat. I wonder if they have offices/where they do their editing. (In the gaming room or corners of the lounges?) I would guess that the dresser drawers are full of props.
Please come home boys, we need to see more.
Oh very well said
sapienveneficus!
but people will still shame people for being big and then claim it's because they're concerned about their health.
- i stopped listening to those in society that tell me a woman is only worth any kind of value if she is acceptably thin, i stopped buying into the hollywood ideal and started reading blogs by actual real people sharing their reality. some were conventionally pretty and thin and others not, but once you start being exposed to a range of people it normalises the actual real range of body shapes and sizes.
I'm also still new and confused about formulating thoughts.