Dan & Phil Part 54: Born in the fires of the internet

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socksparadox wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:28 pm
alittledizzy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:20 pm So hey lets talk about that First Date game that Dan and Phil have on their gaming shelf? Since I think the tumblr embed code is still broken, I'll just link to a post with some screencaps of questions.
Perfect timing for us to figure this out only a few days after we discussed what board games we'd love to see them play on the gaming channel. :lol:
wish i'd never even had the thought of how funny that would be since it'll never happen in a million years. rip.

also, gotta say that i'm still firmly not on the moving train. that doesn't look like an apartment that's being packed up.
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iwishiwasacasual wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:54 pm i guess i believe they're together now. i hate the fact that its a fucking board game that has pushed me over the edge. part of me is like 'stop over reacting, its just a game' and then the other half is just 'well why else would they fucking have that'. ugh i hate them and their dumb relationsip.

please someone convince me this means nothing so something better can make me believe. (its not just the game obvi but this is like the final nail in the coffin)
Obviously Dan bought it for Phil and his wife. They play it when Dan's real boyfriend is there. ;)
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flarequake wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:26 pm Wow, that game looks like a lot of fun. The questions are hilarious. We know they'd both rescue cookies from the bin, but I think they were still in a bag. Tbh, don't wanna know who has the best poo story. Interesting range about people as lovers (lol, easiest and loudest), also pretty harsh about who's already peaked in life. Still hoping I haven't, this sort of thing could lead to some serious arguments if you're not careful. Maybe not so fun :?
I doubt it would cause any real hurt feelings between them because I'm sure by now they know each others soft spots, so they could navigate accordingly. Any tough questions would likely be joked about - I can imagine someone saying they peaked because they've started going gray so it's all downhill from here, or something to that effect. But I've always thought people only get upset like that by things that they know (or believe or fear) are true but haven't accepted. It stings if it's true. But you're right, this game wouldn't be too fun for sensitive people. But it's great for nosy people like me lol

That said, I'm wondering how many couple friends they have to play the game with? I can't imagine they would want to play with family/siblings (though that depends on the family, I would run away screaming if my sister tried to tell me about her sex life but my bff talks to her sister about her hookups all the time -can't imagine Phil and martyn would want any details though :lol: ) and it doesn't seem like a game you can play with the same people multiple times.
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alittledizzy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:20 pm So hey lets talk about that First Date game that Dan and Phil have on their gaming shelf? Since I think the tumblr embed code is still broken, I'll just link to a post with some screencaps of questions.
So how much money do you think all of us could gather? Would it be enough to convince Deppy to play it on DAPG? You know Phil loves his sweet cash towards the forever home :rofl:

Ok but seriously that is :garbage:
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Tbh I was thinking more about if I played it with friends, you never know what sore points might come out (wow, good turn of phrase). I hadn't thought of who they would or wouldn't play it with, but that's a good point. For a lot of people it could easily be tmi.
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bluntedclaws wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:01 pm
iwishiwasacasual wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:54 pm i guess i believe they're together now. i hate the fact that its a fucking board game that has pushed me over the edge. part of me is like 'stop over reacting, its just a game' and then the other half is just 'well why else would they fucking have that'. ugh i hate them and their dumb relationsip.

please someone convince me this means nothing so something better can make me believe. (its not just the game obvi but this is like the final nail in the coffin)
Obviously Dan bought it for Phil and his wife. They play it when Dan's real boyfriend is there. ;)
The game rules say you can be a pretend couple to play it. They could just use it when they host their roleplay swingers parties. ;)
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Some interesting moment during this liveshow that I am dying to armchair analyze.

1. The discussion about pop songs/stars and their lives and releases and drama moments being planned. I wonder how much of that feeling stems from his own experience of being a celebrity and knowing other celebrities. Even if he and phil don't do that (they do, but that's beside the point) I wonder if he hears stories or knows people who do? I wonder how jaded he truly is.

2. another cheeky comment about your beloved audience having opinions on your work. I feel like this is strongly related to the things people were saying about his acting in tatinof. Just a hunch.

3. boardgames: did they have that many board games at the old place, or are a lot of those recent additions? That dating game is a little too personal for my tastes, especially if playing it with close friends. We have a similar game that I bought to meet new neighbors with although it is much more pg, and we have never used it lol. I bought it with the best of intentions.

4. The whole apartment: Feels so grown-up. Maybe its because they havent lived there long, or they don't plan to live there long, but it really feels like they hired an interior decorator or bought a pre-furnished apartment. i miss the messy stacks of dvd's shoved in a bin, and the knick knacks scattered on every shelf. to me those are the things that feel like home and while they are slowly putting little bits out I also feel like they are trying to keep the pre-chosen aesthetic alive, and it makes me sad. This is a weird correlation but the old apartment near the end reminded me of the "DnP Go Outside' cover - bright and chaotic and colorful'. Which is what Dan said they are when they are together, their brand so to speak. This new place does feel like the opposite of that so far. It will be interesting to see if it sticks, or if the old place was only like that by coincidence.
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Artdefines06 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:11 pm 4. The whole apartment: Feels so grown-up. Maybe its because they havent lived there long, or they don't plan to live there long, but it really feels like they hired an interior decorator or bought a pre-furnished apartment. i miss the messy stacks of dvd's shoved in a bin, and the knick knacks scattered on every shelf. to me those are the things that feel like home and while they are slowly putting little bits out I also feel like they are trying to keep the pre-chosen aesthetic alive, and it makes me sad. This is a weird correlation but the old apartment near the end reminded me of the "DnP Go Outside' cover - bright and chaotic and colorful'. Which is what Dan said they are when they are together, their brand so to speak. This new place does feel like the opposite of that so far. It will be interesting to see if it sticks, or if the old place was only like that by coincidence.
Keep in mind the apartment is rented, not bought. I wonder how much of the furniture is truly theirs too, I agree that some/most of the rooms seem a little impersonal in comparison to their old flat. On the other hand though, it all looks amazing and seems to fit their sense of aesthetic.
If the apartment came with furniture then them not changing much around is another thing pointing towards them not planning to stay long.
I can't wait to see how their "forever home" is furnished ;)
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:lion: Phil and Misc Watch 2017 :cactus:
IMPORTANT CONTENT: watch dan play with filters for 30 minutes (Sept 5, 2017)

Prompted Phil Mention
10:15 (chat) Did you get glitter on your clothes?
“Yeah, oh my god, so I’m sure lots of you have heard of or seen AmazingPhil did a slime video, that’s right, ‘cause who cares if it’s a stupid trend that some people do if you just like something and wanna do it, just do it.”
“Phil + crafts, as we all know from baking and other craft channels and stuff, it’s obviously gonna go really well, so I was very excited for that personally”
10:45 “So I watched it and it was very interesting and funny actually. What Phil didn’t tell me [blah blah glitter in the washing machine that came back to haunt Dan’s clothes]”

19:47 (chat) Me and my friend got closer thanks to you and Phil
“That’s good.”

21:45 (chat) Dan you’re my favourite youtuber other than Phil and I’m subscribed to all of your channels and follow you everywhere [etc]
“Um okay, we need to report [chat person for following him everywhere]

34:05 (chat) Talk about the pigeon drama
“There was epic pigeon drama outside the other day. Honestly, Phil and I just living the life”
“I always wonder what people think is happening during day to day life. It’s hard for me to tweet sometimes [because hermit not wanting to express opinions] and Phil just texted me” about pigeons
“Honestly Phil just looks outside the window and is just like, ‘Birds. Birds.’ Phil’s obsessed with birds”
“I came upstairs and Phil was like ‘look there’s pigeons fighting’”
“they flapped, they pecked, it was intense and that is the thrilling domestic true story of Dan and Phil”
-can’t wait for the film adaptation

38:15 (chat) Can I make a phan game about you and Phil
“Yeah. You can’t monetize it” bc copyright “but make whatever you want, express yourself, do art, be creative”

38:32 (chat) You said ‘Phil and I’, I’m proud
“Be proud of me”
Unprompted Phil Mention
37:10 (no liveshow next week because) “Phil and I are going away midweek for a few days with some pals next week” so expect some gaming videos instead
Neutral Phil Mention
0:50 “This is me using the YT mobile livestreaming app because me and Phil - Phil and I - have been having some difficulties with our internet connection recently and when you do it on your phone, it just works”

9:00 “If you’re missing DanAndPhilGAMES and not watching the hottest series in the entire world right now, Dan and Phil Play the Sims 4, Dil’s life is getting pretty crazy”
“I’m gonna be very honest with you as a YTer right here, the only reason I can survive and thrive in this world is because of the Sims series. It’s the only thing any of you care about and it’s the backbone of my entire life, so when the game glitches and it breaks, we legitimately panic because if the Dil game save on the PC breaks, then the channel is dead, we’re dead. We have nothing of value to offer anyone in society”

15:10 (re: shitty internet) “Me and Phil literally, we got a new broadband provider”

16:00 “So we’re gonna do another [gaming stream] on Thursday, at the time when Phil does his liveshow, which is 8pm”
“Go to DanAndPhilGAMES 8pm Thurs and it will be HD, lag-free, and it will sound better”
-what game tho

17:30 “[The Edinburgh thing] invited me and Phil to come up and do a talk about young people not caring about TV anymore”
“People paid to listen to this talk that me and Phil— imagine me and Phil sitting there, and people are like ‘omg people paid’- like people that work in TV paid to come just listen to us talk for 10 minutes, so I was like ‘oh god I have to be interesting’ so I rambled. I did some epic serious waffling.”
Miscellaneous
5:00 “I was thinking about what YT video to make next on dinof”
5:35 “I’ve done videos talking about exams, about surviving school life, but something I haven’t really gone in deep about is university and that period of my life”
“I can just spill the beans on all kinds of shit that happened”
“so this week I’m gonna spill the tea on my own experiences at university”
-I’M MAYBE VERY INTO THIS IDEA YES DAN UNLESS IT JUST TURNS INTO BORING GENUINE ADVICE

8:20 “I had a pretty eventful first week at university, I wrote about it a bit in tatinof [and mentioned bits elsewhere] but I could go a bit deep into some of them, and there’s definitely a few more.”
“That’s gonna be hard, hard for me to work out how I wanna do that, what I wanna say or not”

13:50 “[GBBO] finishes at 9:15 on a Tuesday, and that’s when I do my liveshows, so… I mean, I care about you, and I care about these, and it’s like important [etc], but Bake Off is kind of the priority of my life. So liveshows might be at 9:30 for awhile”
-cutting down the length of his liveshows now too, putting livegaming in place of Phil’s liveshows, ok I see how it is…

14:25 “What do you think about the difference between [YT streaming] and younow?”
“I feel like using Superchat is hard compared to younow stuff”
-also more of a ripoff since on younow he actually has to accept the question before the user is charged and on YT there’s no guarantee he’ll see or respond to it but the user is charged anyway? right? that seems shitty.. if that's how it works..

15:05 “I’ll go back to younow next time, but we’ll see”

19:35 “I think going to Australia was the highlight of my year so far this year”

19:40 “[chat] said ‘I love you’. Thank you, I love you, too”
-uh what is this, he said this to a stranger that could be a cannibal…? He’s too soft today

19:55 (chat) Shout out to Dan’s humour for saving my life
“Humour’s a funny one. It’s definitely subjective; you can’t say what is funny or what isn’t, ‘cause if you think about it, things that are funny are just when you think about how ridiculous a situation is, so whether or not you find something funny will depend a lot on your life experiences. So I might make a joke, and to people that have a similar emotional state to me, that see where I’m coming from, that have lived a life similar to me, they’ll find it funny. People that haven’t, they might be like, ‘wow I don’t know if that’s funny, it’s making me feel a way I don’t agree with’ and that’s fine. But the thing is with the internet and people expressing themselves is you’ve just got to do you, unless you’re being bad for some reason, just express yourself. You can’t help being different.”

23:15 “I’ve just been keeping up with the pop drama. What do you think, guys? Taylor Swift vs Katy Perry, whose side are you on?”
-kim there’s people that are dying

25:25 “To be honest, I’m interested generally in pop culture, I’m not massively enthusiastic about either of these people or their albums, I’m sorry, I don’t care that much.”

27:15 (chat) Would you like to visit Croatia?
“I’d like to visit a lot of places. This year I went to Playlist and Vidcon and Australia and it was all quite random, it wasn’t planned, didn’t have time to go to some other conventions, and it’s just like, obviously when me and Phil were on tour, we went to so many places and yet there were so many places we didn’t go. And it’s just crazy, whenever we go to a convention - either of us, I mean, I’m just speaking from my opinions here but I’m sure that Phil probably feels the same way - it’s just such a profound (I don’t want to be lame) experience, but meeting you guys is very grounding, it’s good for my mental heath, making you all seem real, making me realize what I actually do with my life and that people actually watch it and enjoy it, or don’t and have opinions. And I do feel bad that we didn’t get to go to some places. I would definitely, in life, like to go to more places.”
28:40 “I’d like to go everywhere, one day, if I’m there in a professional capacity or not.”
-ok so secret project is some kind of world travelling convention phan around the world in 80 days travelling circus ahhhhhh
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29:00 “The train to Edinburgh was beautiful”
“I think Edinburgh is the most beautiful city in the whole world, I’m gonna go on record and say that.”
-noted for the record

30:10 “And the train journey to and from is like the most emotional thing ever. If you ever have to go from London to Edinburgh, don’t fly, get the train ‘cause it’s 5 hours of just going past beautiful countryside, the sea, aqueducts, it’s just a beautiful experience”
-and the sheep my god the ever-present sheep

30:50 (about what writing he did on the train, not for a book clam down) “Just ideas, things, content, life dreams, things that might be big big things in the future”
-charlie pepe silvia-ing intensifies

33:25 (chat) Dan you should make more videos about mental health
“I should. That’s another hard one too, because it’s always.. you don’t wanna give people advice when you’re not a qualified professional, you don’t wanna look like you’re attention-seeking, you don’t wanna say the wrong thing or the right thing and it’s really scary. It’s quite easy for me to make videos about so many topics, but then there’s certain topics where you have to think so hard about how you approach them, what you do, and whatever, is it something that I should try and do something big and help, should I make it different, should I get help, should I make it really arty and filmy or should I make it just a regular Dan video? It’s a challenge.”

37:25 “I should do something funny and weird on this next time because I do like using this app, it’s fun testing them out. It’s like the fun experimentation of the season, ‘cause experimenting’s always fun. All of you should experiment.”

38:50 (chat) Have you considered writing on philosophy?
“I don’t have a formal education, I can just waffle with my uneducated opinions and get criticized for not being deep enough, pretending to be too deep, and anything— it’s scary, man.”
-oh good so the message that you first need a degree to be able to casually engage on any level with something you’re interested in made its way to him, yay…
:whiskers: Phinal Tally: said ‘Phil’ 23 times :whiskers:
~23/40mins = 0.57 per min

THIS WAS SO GOOD AND I’VE MISSED THESE SO MUCH
oh fuuuck :lion: :cactus: are back, bless you mods et al
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scientia wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:17 pm Notebook writing for potential future project(S)??
I think he said "not a book, don't worry" as in he's not writing a book.

[edit] fancybum mentioned in the timestamps already.
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So just to throw another theory out there re the board game...

First Dates is made by Big Potato Games.

Dan quietly followed them on Twitter in early July. First Dates was only released VERY recently in the UK
(4 Sept it looks like? - if so that would be the day before Dan's liveshow) - We know they like other Big Potato Games e.g. Obama Llama.

So it could be that they like their games and bought it, or it could be that they were sent it by the company (the most boring but likely option imho and simply put it on the shelf next to their other games). Or for those who like conspiracy theories - maybe, just maybe, it's for research/they're working with the company....I mean making a board game is something I could see them doing.
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susan2 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:43 pm So just to throw another theory out there re the board game...

First Dates is made by Big Potato Games.

Dan quietly followed them on Twitter in early July. First Dates was only released VERY recently in the UK
(4 Sept it looks like? - if so that would be the day before Dan's liveshow) - We know they like other Big Potato Games e.g. Obama Llama.

So it could be that they like their games and bought it, or it could be that they were sent it by the company (the most boring but likely option imho and simply put it on the shelf next to their other games). Or for those who like conspiracy theories - maybe, just maybe, it's for research/they're working with the company....I mean making a board game is something I could see them doing.
I will say, it's very easy to get board game companies to send you freebies. My husband and I hosted a local board game night at our comic book shop years ago and just asked companies for donations and we still get stuff years later because we are on their list of people to send promos too. The placement of it facing out still gets me. Is it a sneky spon? Is it to rile us up? Is it a coincidence? Do they just not give any fcks anymore?

I just shuddered at the thought of a old persona/old branding Danisnotonfire and amazingphil trivia type card game, so thanks for that nightmare.
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:garbage:

As soon as I saw the game I went full trash can. That's the most married double-date night thing ever. Invite your friends round and have some drinks and whip out a newlywed style game.

This was such a sweet live show. And I have to agree, he looked gorgeous, I was swooning a bit ngl. He seemed genuinely happy today! Very smiley. Love it. And it seems I somewhat got what I was asking for as he did talk a little bit about other people's senses of humor being different, blah blah etc. :)

I was super surprised hearing him talk about a mental health video. Interesting to hear that fear (of the size of his audience? Judgment? Backlash?) seems to be the main thing holding him back on more serious topics.

Big future plans? Hmm. :illuminatitrashcan: Here for susan2's board game theory. I wonder what in the world a Dan & Phil board game would be like? :rofl: Imagine all the cringey possibilities? Llamas & Ladders? Lion Land? Lions to Llamas? Oh god. I needed that laugh.

I much prefer the livestreams on YT vs YouNow. He just seems so much more open? I can't form words today. I'm a happy pile of garbage after this LS.
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Loafer wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:02 pm That said, I'm wondering how many couple friends they have to play the game with? I can't imagine they would want to play with family/siblings (though that depends on the family, I would run away screaming if my sister tried to tell me about her sex life but my bff talks to her sister about her hookups all the time -can't imagine Phil and martyn would want any details though :lol: ) and it doesn't seem like a game you can play with the same people multiple times.
I'd assume they'd play it with Bryony and Wirrow, who seem like their closest friends and are a couple. Or maybe they just play it alone.
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alch wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:04 am
Loafer wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:02 pm That said, I'm wondering how many couple friends they have to play the game with? I can't imagine they would want to play with family/siblings (though that depends on the family, I would run away screaming if my sister tried to tell me about her sex life but my bff talks to her sister about her hookups all the time -can't imagine Phil and martyn would want any details though :lol: ) and it doesn't seem like a game you can play with the same people multiple times.
I'd assume they'd play it with Bryony and Wirrow, who seem like their closest friends and are a couple. Or maybe they just play it alone.
We do know that they play board games alone - and it especially makes sense if they want to test it out to know if it's funny/interesting enough to work for a group game night.
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I know that this will never happen but imagine if Dan and Phil filmed themselves playing the first dates game and posted in on Danandphilgames. I know that this will never happen but I can dream right?
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While we are all preparing to sell our souls to the devil in exchange for dnp filming First Dates, what game do we actually think they will livestream on Thursday? I'm leaning towards a Crash Bandicoot level as it seems suited to them switching back and forth between playing and reading the chat.
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annabanana wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:42 am While we are all preparing to sell our souls to the devil in exchange for dnp filming First Dates, what game do we actually think they will livestream on Thursday? I'm leaning towards a Crash Bandicoot level as it seems suited to them switching back and forth between playing and reading the chat.
I agree, they're probably play Crash Bandicoot.

But I really want them to play this game called "Fireboy and Watergirl", like, that game was basically my childhood, and a lot of people in the comments of dan and phil's videos have suggested that, I can't believe they still haven't played it. It's a perfect 2 people game.
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randomthoughts wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:41 am
annabanana wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:42 am While we are all preparing to sell our souls to the devil in exchange for dnp filming First Dates, what game do we actually think they will livestream on Thursday? I'm leaning towards a Crash Bandicoot level as it seems suited to them switching back and forth between playing and reading the chat.
I agree, they're probably play Crash Bandicoot.

But I really want them to play this game called "Fireboy and Watergirl", like, that game was basically my childhood, and a lot of people in the comments of dan and phil's videos have suggested that, I can't believe they still haven't played it. It's a perfect 2 people game.
+1, I used to play that all the time with my friends and I'd love to see Deppy try
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Artdefines06 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:49 pm The placement of it facing out still gets me. Is it a sneky spon? Is it to rile us up? Is it a coincidence? Do they just not give any fcks anymore?
Yup, I just caught up with the liveshow and the four games that are prominently placed facing out on their shelf are -

First Dates...by Big Potato Games.
Obama Llama....by Big Potato Games.
Colour Brain....by Big Potato Games.
The Chameleon...by Big Potato Games.
(and I can also see Scrawl on the shelf)

Coincidence? you decide...
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For someone who usually wants to show as little of his surroundings as possible, Dan sure got that shelf in shot plenty.

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susan2 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:43 pm So just to throw another theory out there re the board game...

First Dates is made by Big Potato Games.

Dan quietly followed them on Twitter in early July. First Dates was only released VERY recently in the UK
(4 Sept it looks like? - if so that would be the day before Dan's liveshow) - We know they like other Big Potato Games e.g. Obama Llama.

So it could be that they like their games and bought it, or it could be that they were sent it by the company (the most boring but likely option imho and simply put it on the shelf next to their other games). Or for those who like conspiracy theories - maybe, just maybe, it's for research/they're working with the company....I mean making a board game is something I could see them doing.
Now I'm curious, because it only raises more questions. I mean, I don't doubt it would be easy for them to receive this kind of stuff, but how the company decides what to send and to whom? Because this is a very specific kind of game, even if you can pretend to be a couple. Does these companies make any kind of selection to send specifc kind of stuff they think would be relevant? Do they send stuff to any influencer? What is the policy? They can always have pre-ordered it, but I'm supposing the company sent them. That's a bit weird to me, specially when they are officialy just friends. I know there are many explanations for it, but I want to know if anyone has any idea of how this targeting works.
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yoooo that was my fave dan liveshow ever wtf? i love this man so much, hes so precious. i love when he plays with the filters and the conversations that he had about celebrities and mental health (if he did a video on that i'd be very, very happy as i have mental health issues myself) and i'd also be very happy if he did a video on uni/college as i am in college currently. but like..this liveshow damn. he was so wholesome and bubbly? i live for this side of dan omg<3 the comments he said at the end of the liveshow about him believing in you and being your own person and whatnot..i teared up ohmygoodness.

he's just so precious and i love him a lot. also that dating game...that just makes me believe they're a couple even more :garbage:
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I liked the mobile livestream, a lot. I read here before watching because I was riding home from a day trip with my folks. I agree that it was very wholesome and Dan had a nice face and I appreciated all the fan service. The husband apparently does not appreciate any of these things, he kept on commenting that Dan hadn't really talked about much. I mean he read the title... That was exactly the content that I signed up for.

So it turns out the blue, yellow and orange painting was not on the floor, just sitting on the low white surface (which appears to have drawers). I like the metal water feature and the terrarium as well. Still think there is an elemental thing going on. The terium is earth, the fountain is water, the painting is sky (paper air planes) the candles are fire (but we also talked about the range of materials their holders are made from/look like oil, salt, stone, metal, etc.) and the blooping machine lava lamp is plasma. Oh and the galaxy backpack totally represent the stars and wasn't just accidentally left there by Phil.

(Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that only one part of the couch has that head rest roll?)

susan2 you are definitely on to something with the board games!

Looking forward to the gaming livestream, Dan's university vid and hopefully someone posting a sketch of what they think the upstairs layout looks like, please and thank you! I've just spent way too much time thinking about it while looking at twitter pics to see the different angles and now my head hurts. Help!

Viofish wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:33 pm
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heres a better view lmao.
See, I thought the kitchen was upstairs! (Why do I recall one of them making it sound like it wasn't?) Aww I see a clothes drying rack! (Please tell me those are Phil's emoji pjs and red shirt, and not one of the Pooh onsies). Is it common in London apartments to have the washing machine in the kitchen? (Not saying it has to be). I also see a door handle, leading out to the balcony. So is that the reflection we were seeing in Phil's ls a month ago?
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Y'all talking about that board game and I am here wondering how they can be Youtubers with a 0.5 Mbits upload. Considering the quality and length of their gaming videos, they are easily using 4-5h for uploading them o.O
It's 2017, why on earth would they not get better internet when their job is literally to upload things. Unless..... temporary solution? *Triangle* (I'm still not on the moving train though)

(only saw the time stamps, dunno if he said more about the topic)
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