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onetruetrash wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:18 pm
Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:43 pmAlso, I cannot believe that Dan fits in a women's small. Holy hell, he must be much thinner than I thought. :shock:
He definitely does not fit into that shirt, it's way too small for him. It also looks very ill-fitting, probably due to the fact that it was made for a woman's body and he got it in a small. If he got it in a medium, I'm sure it'd be fine.
Off topic longboye thoughts:
I never said it fit well, but he's in there man. :lol: I'm fascinated by their size - I think more so their height as I'm a fellow tall freak of nature. Cameras and photos can be super deceiving. In their Japanese themed merch on the shop I believe they were both wearing Larges(?) and those fit a bit baggy so I think they lean towards M/L. They seem much lankier than I imagined.
After a second watch I think my fav subtle moment of this video was around 4:55 when they're talking about Dil almost wetting the bed. Phil says he almost wet the bed last night and before Dan does the over exaggerated "ur so weird" face for the camera, he shoots Phil a panicked like "what the actual fuck" look. Unless I'm reading too much into it (which is super likely I just prefer my demon version better tbh) someone take my phan goggles away from me pls.
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Also, System of a Down and the Room references. The "cool story bro" actually made me laugh out loud. They were super bouncy and adorable in this vid. Could definitely rewatch it later. :)

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Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:45 pm
onetruetrash wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:18 pm
Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:43 pmAlso, I cannot believe that Dan fits in a women's small. Holy hell, he must be much thinner than I thought. :shock:
He definitely does not fit into that shirt, it's way too small for him. It also looks very ill-fitting, probably due to the fact that it was made for a woman's body and he got it in a small. If he got it in a medium, I'm sure it'd be fine.
Off topic longboye thoughts:
I never said it fit well, but he's in there man. :lol: I'm fascinated by their size - I think more so their height as I'm a fellow tall freak of nature. Cameras and photos can be super deceiving. In their Japanese themed merch on the shop I believe they were both wearing Larges(?) and those fit a bit baggy so I think they lean towards M/L. They seem much lankier than I imagined.
After a second watch I think my fav subtle moment of this video was around 4:55 when they're talking about Dil almost wetting the bed. Phil says he almost wet the bed last night and before Dan does the over exaggerated "ur so weird" face for the camera, he shoots Phil a panicked like "what the actual fuck" look. Unless I'm reading too much into it (which is super likely I just prefer my demon version better tbh) someone take my phan goggles away from me pls.
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Also, System of a Down and the Room references. The "cool story bro" actually made me laugh out loud. They were super bouncy and adorable in this vid. Could definitely rewatch it later. :)
(You don't need to hide the comments about the clothes they wore in the video/merch they've worn before, it's not off topic! Nothing that actually has to do with Dan and Phil is off topic for this thread, though this specifically is super relevant right now since you're talking about the video that they just posted.)

Okay I definitely gotta say I agree with your demon version, I think they might have a default mental 'red alert' when it comes to anything that has to do with beds or sleeping.
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Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:45 pm
After a second watch I think my fav subtle moment of this video was around 4:55 when they're talking about Dil almost wetting the bed. Phil says he almost wet the bed last night and before Dan does the over exaggerated "ur so weird" face for the camera, he shoots Phil a panicked like "what the actual fuck" look. Unless I'm reading too much into it (which is super likely I just prefer my demon version better tbh) someone take my phan goggles away from me pls.
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I hadn't noticed that! It's super short and I had to go basically frame by frame to catch the look, but there was a fraction of a second where Dan does the "wtf" face before switching over to his The Office-esque looking into the camera
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I'd write a long post with commentary but I can't be arsed and I have Digimon Tri episodes waiting for me, but I did really enjoy this video. Depsus are bigger city people than I thought, they seem really into penthouses :illuminati: I liked Phil's little childhood stories but the 'cool story bro' edit had me on the floor :rofl:

ngl Dan in that shirt was really distracting in that it was really bothering me how tight it was on him. It looked like he was gonna burst out of the damn thing but I guess that he even managed to squeez in a woman's small at all is an achievement in itself. But Phil looked to die for in that shirt. The black, the V neck :tongue: The Dil plushie is ugly as sin tbh I don't what it is but nuh uh.
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I love the new merch! Dan looks gorgeous in Tabitha's shirt; and Phil in black, well, what can I say? <3 I'm surprised Dan fits in a small, I don't think I fit into one of those and I'm quite petite, and I always pictured him as taller/bigger than me.

The video was lovely but I just spent like... a month or so, playing the sims 4 with all the expansions, so I did know what to expect. Also, I've been having a few bad days so maybe I'm a bit moody and I couldn't really enjoy the video. So, definitely worth a rewatch.

Some random thoughts:
-Phil pocking at Dan's nipple :poke: sometimes I'm still surprised that we get to see these type of interactions.
-When they talked about where they would want to live. It reminded me of "this is not a forever home" :philtrash: :love2:
-Dan's face when Phil was talking about wetting the bed. Amazing. I would love to see more of these domestic discussions/banter. :love2:
-A six hours livestream of the Sims? It would never happen but: YES, please, prove me wrong.
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The new video was very funny and the boys seemed to have fun making it.

I could not help laughing at Phil's inability to focus on anything but Dan's t-shirt being very tight :rofl:
Reminded me of the first Pokemon Go episode and Phil focusing the camera on Dan's very tight leggings. We never did see those again and I doubt we'll be seeing that shirt either ;) :garbage:

Ewok I noticed that as well, Dan definitely looked like he panicked for a split second there before he remembered they were filming.

Side note. I don't know how many other Sims fans lurk here but as someone who's been playing Sims since the original series it seems to have taken the developers forever to get to a city expansion. In fact the whole game seems to be getting updates at a much slower rate. Perhaps it just that they cut so much content like toddlers for the Sims 4 which was in the base game even as far back as Sims 2 that the updates they've been releasing aren't as exciting. It's all basic stuff that should have been in the original pack. :shrug: Idk maybe it's the nostalgia clouding my vision.

I've not really bothered to play much of it myself, aside from the lovely graphics it got old fast and I downgraded back to Sims 2 & 3 which just seemed to suit my play style more. I think it's a credit to Dan and Phil's content that they're now the only Sims 4 video makers I watch anymore. They've managed to keep me entertained.

Also is it just me or is Evan dressed like Velma from Scooby Doo? Because that's what my brain jumps to. :-D
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Video thoughts:

- Their openness about where they'd want to live, the consistent 'we' and 'our.' The conversations in today's video might have been about the game but it shows us where their mind is and how unconcerned they are with censoring their words or rephrasing things to give nothing away. I think we can effectively close the door on the era when Dan and Phil tried to seriously imply that they were planning for futures without each other.

- The conversation about the art gallery. Leela/nihilist-toothpaste has already effectively said this on tumblr (in fact, we often have almost the same thoughts, which is why I rarely make post-video thought posts on tumblr - way too easy to reblog her brilliance) but this seemed directly drawn from real life experience. Dan is the type of person who wants to enjoy the culture and maybe treat it with a bit of gravity, Phil just wants to play a dog spotting game. But when pressed slightly Dan agrees that the game is fun and they seem to teasingly and very nonchalantly accept the differences in opinions. I desperately crave this kind of insight into how they function together so seamlessly, so this was super satisfying.

- The casual physical affection and the casual compliments; Phil poking Dan's nipple, Dan saying Phil is rocking the shirt. I love Phil looking Dan up and down multiple times, and I love Dan making it obvious that he was looking at Phil through the camera screen.

- Phil sharing stories continues to be fantastic. I feel like he's got so many things in his head, he seems to place a lot of importance on memories he's made with people he cares about and he gets genuine pleasure out of retelling them. And the Anja mention!

- Definitely feel like they're building the Dab and Evan friendship into Something. I halfway expected them to say Evan would live with Dab in the penthouse in their future plans/headcanons. (But I think they're gonna need an entire episode devoted to socializing Dab and Evan together if they want to make them actually friends. They're just not interacting a ton even when they have Evan over. In fact, episodes focusing on one Sim at a time would be pretty much the only way to effectively get anything done from now on since they've got four to juggle. Or three, because Tabitha who?)

- Phil saying he had to take the bus thirty minutes into town/Manchester reminded me that every time Dan came to visit him that first year, Phil met him at the train station. He basically spent an hour on a bus round trip just to be able to properly greet Dan and send him off properly.
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A few more moments that stuck out to me/lazy timestamps after re-watching again (I'm procrastinating so bad today.) :love2:

I'm putting these under a spoiler as well because I'm just too paranoid about taking up so much space and I guess I just love the spoiler tag, this is so so long soz guys

~9:00 -
Phil: Ooh, an art gallery! We can go do the Art Gallery game! The Art Gallery game is - you go to an art gallery, and the first person to see a dog in a painting wins.
Dan: Didn't you win this because there was some, like, Picasso painting with a dog?

~9:50
Phil: It's always good to have a friend with you if you go on a boring parent day.
Dan: Otherwise it'll be like, "Mum, I don't want to look at the stupid dog painting!"
Phil: You loved the dog painting!
Dan: It's a "fun" game that distracts from the appreciation.
Phil: No, that's what Picasso would've wanted.
Dan: Yeah, I'm sure

(Please god someone give me a fic about these two playing this game, I'd cry.)

~10:00
Dan: This is definitely where we'd live. (in the city)
~10:30
Phil: Where would you want to live, if we could live here, Dan?
Dan: I mean, what was that dream fantasy penthouse?

~11:30
Dan: Handcuffs in front of the painting = "Dab is like oh my god it's making me think of how society is chaining us all to the preconceived notions of how we're supposed to live our lives..." Hmm.

~12:45
- Dan imagines the art gallery would be a good place for private gallery canoodling. Aka, art galleries are totes romantic.

~15:30
- Phil wanted to be 14, as then he would be allowed to go to Manchester by bus on his own. On his first trip to Manchester at 14, he buys a cardboard cutout of Sarah Michelle Gellar. Dan calls him iconic for buying a cutout of his waifu. Loads of scary kids were laughing at him, but he thought it was worth it. Dan supports him by telling him, "I think it was worth it." :love2:

~17:10
Dan: "We had the authentic, home-grown wedding." :philtrash:

~17:30
Woo-hooing in the telescope. Phil rushes them: "quick quick quick quick! Come on, wrap it uP!" Dan says they should leave before they get arrested for woo-hooing in public.

~19:00
Dan mentions wanting to live in the city, again. Reminds me of Phil's psychology test, Phil's immediate response to what his dream house would be was at the top of a skyscraper ("a swanky penthouse with enough room for a dog to run around, looking at some city skyline") DnP want a swanky ass penthouse with a pupper, confirmed :illuminati:

~19:50
"Maybe when Dab is older... he'll move to the city. I don't know if this will be in 3 years on Dan and Phil Games, or just our headcanons... Dab buying the penthouse in the city."

~20:35
"I'm a little blue fish in the deep blue sea, will somebody help me?" A "Help! I'm a Fish" reference. "How do you even remember that?" (as if Phil isn't supposed to remember early 2000's movie references, lol Dan)
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Damn, that was cute. They were both cute as hell in those tshirts. Add me to the list of people surprised and impressed that Dan fits a women's small. He's pretty big and broad, I guess boobs take up more room than we realise cos I'd have thought a women's medium would be too small on him :shrug: I think Tabitha's actual tshirt is a bit more detailed and the grey hearts on Dil's are darker, but still interesting to think of what agreement they must have with EA.

The city pack was out a while ago and if I remember rightly there was a game in Sims 2 that they could play together called Myshuno. It was some contraption like a table with a dome, I don't know what the game was. It doesn't correspond to a city that I know of, maybe the developers just liked the name (or the Sims 4 team being separate from Sims 2 somehow came up with the same name by themselves).

I think that's about all I've got, I was mostly just here for them being adorable. So many closeups of Dan's freckles too, so pretty.
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Nothing much else to say other than to echo everyone else's thoughts, but that was a v cute vid :')

- I have no merch opinions as I am not a merch kind of a gal in the first place, and I think it's very unlikely I would ever buy Dan and Phil merch regardless of how nice it was.
alittledizzy wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:12 pm - The conversation about the art gallery. Leela/nihilist-toothpaste has already effectively said this on tumblr (in fact, we often have almost the same thoughts, which is why I rarely make post-video thought posts on tumblr - way too easy to reblog her brilliance) but this seemed directly drawn from real life experience. Dan is the type of person who wants to enjoy the culture and maybe treat it with a bit of gravity, Phil just wants to play a dog spotting game. But when pressed slightly Dan agrees that the game is fun and they seem to teasingly and very nonchalantly accept the differences in opinions. I desperately crave this kind of insight into how they function together so seamlessly, so this was super satisfying.
Ahhhh this!! The image of them playing this game every time they go to an art gallery is too much, god bless :love2:

alittledizzy wrote: - Phil sharing stories continues to be fantastic. I feel like he's got so many things in his head, he seems to place a lot of importance on memories he's made with people he cares about and he gets genuine pleasure out of retelling them. And the Anja mention!
I was so surprised he mentioned her by name, he was so open with little childhood/adolescent anecdotes, it was v enjoyable.
Ewok wrote: ~20:35
"I'm a little blue fish in the deep blue sea, will somebody help me?" A "Help! I'm a Fish" reference. "How do you even remember that?" (as if Phil isn't supposed to remember early 2000's movie references, lol Dan)
I had somehow managed to completely erase this film from my memory but Phil singing that line transported me right back to primary school, holy shit. My friends and I used to be obsessed with that movie and we'd sing that song all the time, I can't believe Phil was the one to remind me of it, I can't stop laughing :lol:
citizen_erased wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:50 pm Quickly going to put this here before watching the new video, but I wrote a little thing for that DITL discussion from last page.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/12220707

Definitely could've been better but I'm tired and very rusty, haven't written much in the last years :lol:
omg amazing!!! This was so hilarious, and exactly the sort of thing I had in mind when I suggested a Phil's bedroom ditl, thank you so much for writing it :love2:
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Love the timestamps, Ewok! I plucked a couple out that I wanted to respond to.
Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:13 pm~11:30
Dan: Handcuffs in front of the painting = "Dab is like oh my god it's making me think of how society is chaining us all to the preconceived notions of how we're supposed to live our lives..." Hmm.
Hah, I missed that. That is so Dan.
Ewok wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:13 pm~15:30
- Phil wanted to be 14, as then he would be allowed to go to Manchester by bus on his own. On his first trip to Manchester at 14, he buys a cardboard cutout of Sarah Michelle Gellar. Dan calls him iconic for buying a cutout of his waifu. Loads of scary kids were laughing at him, but he thought it was worth it. Dan supports him by telling him, "I think it was worth it." :love2:
Dan's response to that was so fucking cute? I don't understand it, but it was so cute. Dan out there trying to boost the confidence of 14 year old Phil like that made a difference. It's the kind of moment where I'd fully expect Dan to just tease the fuck out of Phil, but instead he's surprisingly gentle about it.

And this doesn't relate to the timestamps, I just really love how intensely Dan is staring at Phil through the monitor as Phil tugs on the v-neck of his shirt.

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alittledizzy wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:36 am
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Holy cheese that was wild.

I never thought we would see *cute* nipple booping. And easy compliments and unguarded talk of the future. In the same video.

I enjoyed that so much. I think I like these guys more than my actual brother sometimes... I just really want them to be happy and successful.

And yeah, dizzy. Wow. I hope when I'm so many years into a relationship my partner can still look at me like that.

Incredibly excited for Phil's clothes video! I'm sure my contribution won't pop up amid the thousands, but I',m hoping Dan might have chosen something similar -- navy blue merino v-neck. It would look delicious on Phil with some funky shoes and well-fitted jeans.
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gah, that was a good ep. and the sims has to be my least favourite thing they film these days.
i'm not sure i have anything further to add than the above comments, agree with all of it, they gave us lots of personal insight and anecdotes.
"alittledizzy" wrote: Dan is the type of person who wants to enjoy the culture and maybe treat it with a bit of gravity, Phil just wants to play a dog spotting game. But when pressed slightly Dan agrees that the game is fun and they seem to teasingly and very nonchalantly accept the differences in opinions. I desperately crave this kind of insight into how they function together so seamlessly, so this was super satisfying.
i loved phil's cheeky 'what do you think the meaning of that art is?'. he gets so much joy from teasing dan's serious contemplations, but dan also seems to get joy from that dynamic and poking fun in turn at phil pretending not to care- when i think he does care, at the right moments, about the right art (ditto philosophy, politics, science, etc, whatever it is). they have this playful dynamic that illuminates the tendencies they demonstrate less often, eg. dan's ability to be utterly silly and not seek deeper meaning but be irreverent, and phil's ability to hold and voice a strong opinion and personal taste.

12.49 - dan: "you could come here for some private gallery canoodling". this was an...interesting comment to me because he made it after viewing an empty room (no other gallery attendees, no security guard). is this from personal experience?
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and his shy little smile trying to avoid eye contact after complimenting phil:

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because i'm trash and can't resist -

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they had to zoom in right at the moment phil poked Rightie, so we couldn't see their reactions, didn't they? bastards.
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alittledizzy wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:30 pm Louis teased an exciting collab "next week" at the end of her video today. I think she posts on Monday, so I guess we have deppy to look forward to in a few days.
Phil filmed the clothes video yesterday (He said in his LS that he would film the day after), so I am wondering if they'll give the Sims video space and post it after Louise, or if they are squeezing it in before and we are getting it today or tomorrow. Hype?
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LtrllySusan wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:08 am
alittledizzy wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:30 pm Louis teased an exciting collab "next week" at the end of her video today. I think she posts on Monday, so I guess we have deppy to look forward to in a few days.
Phil filmed the clothes video yesterday (He said in his LS that he would film the day after), so I am wondering if they'll give the Sims video space and post it after Louise, or if they are squeezing it in before and we are getting it today or tomorrow. Hype?
I second the motion for hype. I feel like he posts a lot on Sundays? I'm too lazy to actually verify that, but I'm guessing it'll go up Sunday and damn I haven't been this excited for a video in A While :babuse:

but watch him wait until Friday, don't you dare Phil
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LtrllySusan wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:08 am
alittledizzy wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:30 pm Louis teased an exciting collab "next week" at the end of her video today. I think she posts on Monday, so I guess we have deppy to look forward to in a few days.
Phil filmed the clothes video yesterday (He said in his LS that he would film the day after), so I am wondering if they'll give the Sims video space and post it after Louise, or if they are squeezing it in before and we are getting it today or tomorrow. Hype?
I'm so hyped. I've been waiting for so long for this video.
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I hardly dare hope Dan actually chose something I suggested, though my purple suit was amazing and the silver trousers would be hilarious, but it'd be great if he's got him into some ripped jeans or something unusual, but hot. There were a lot of good suggestions among the silly ones and quite a few were ripped jeans (apparently we all want to see him dress like Dan).
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flarequake wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:45 pm I hardly dare hope Dan actually chose something I suggested, though my purple suit was amazing and the silver trousers would be hilarious, but it'd be great if he's got him into some ripped jeans or something unusual, but hot. There were a lot of good suggestions among the silly ones and quite a few were ripped jeans (apparently we all want to see him dress like Dan).
I don't really want to see him dress like Dan, but I'm :philtrash: and would love a sneaky glimpse of thigh through the rips in those jeans. Maybe something a little "edgy," because he can have this intensity and darkness (some of his oldest videos are downright unsettling) that his usual fun tees and button downs don't really emphasize. Phil is such a pretty man. Hoping they maybe find something sharp and sleek to show off those shoulders!
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LtrllySusan wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:08 am
alittledizzy wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:30 pm Louis teased an exciting collab "next week" at the end of her video today. I think she posts on Monday, so I guess we have deppy to look forward to in a few days.
Phil filmed the clothes video yesterday (He said in his LS that he would film the day after), so I am wondering if they'll give the Sims video space and post it after Louise, or if they are squeezing it in before and we are getting it today or tomorrow. Hype?
I'm kinda feeling a Sunday upload. I don't think today would be realistic between editing and sims. Monday they'd give space for Louise. Tuesday maybe? Then dan might cancel ls (possible bc it will be another two months). Otherwise Wednesday onwards would seem to interrupt their recent at least two vids a week gaming schedule.

Idk I'm rooting for Sunday but Tuesday would make sense as well..
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Catallena wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:55 pm I'd write a long post with commentary but I can't be arsed and I have Digimon Tri episodes waiting for me, but I did really enjoy this video. Depsus are bigger city people than I thought, they seem really into penthouses :illuminati: I liked Phil's little childhood stories but the 'cool story bro' edit had me on the floor :rofl:

ngl Dan in that shirt was really distracting in that it was really bothering me how tight it was on him. It looked like he was gonna burst out of the damn thing but I guess that he even managed to squeez in a woman's small at all is an achievement in itself. But Phil looked to die for in that shirt. The black, the V neck :tongue: The Dil plushie is ugly as sin tbh I don't what it is but nuh uh.
Okay me, I'm about to watch and cry and wow it's so nice to see someone else care :stan:

The Sims video was so cute?? I haven't enjoyed a sims episode in quite a while, even their building video wasn't top notch for me and I'm a slave for sims building videos, they're my asmr. But this was so cute and flirty and just..adorable. The nipple poking had me stopping the video to actually make sure this was a thing, 2017 is the year we can see nipple poking without stupid remarks. Wow. And Dan checking out Phil AND pointing it out on camera?? :stan: Though how could he stop, Phil looked INCREDIBLE. And that glimpse of chest? wow wow wo :philtrash: :philtrash:

After that video I went back to their ver first sims episode and there's a starking difference in how they portray themselves to the camera, but also it's so funny to remember Dil was supposed to be their combination, not their son.

I would love for Phil to post tomorrow, he usually doesn't wait too much to post his videos after filming them, so i think it might be possible. I'd love for Dan to talk about all his fashion choices for Phil and give us an insight of why he thought that would look the best... I'm really hoping he'll be on camera too but I really have no idea how they'll manage if they're filming in the closet room.
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liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:12 pm
After that video I went back to their ver first sims episode and there's a starking difference in how they portray themselves to the camera, but also it's so funny to remember Dil was supposed to be their combination, not their son.
I caught Phil saying at one point in his liveshow yesterday that Dil was their child in the sims and it stood out to me for that exact reason. I'm laughing at how far we've come! Despite all the talk of personas, they do seem a lot more comfortable in front of the camera now than they did then. I will take today's gaming channel content over 2014-2016 any day.

Also interesting to note that Phil started the series controlling the mouse...we all know what happened to that (i do believe it comes down to them being too lazy to switch out dans left-handed mouse, so dan just does the controlling)
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liola wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:12 pm After that video I went back to their ver first sims episode and there's a starking difference in how they portray themselves to the camera, but also it's so funny to remember Dil was supposed to be their combination, not their son.
Every time I watch the first sims video I think about how different everything would have turned out if they'd made a sim Dan and a sim Phil. Since they were probably about to do that, seeing as they called it the "obvious choice."

Instead of the domestic little family we have where they refer to everyone as their children, we'd watch them make Dan and Phil fall in love with other people and grow separate sim families.

Or maybe the phannies would make them stop the series immediately.
Either way, very different version of the gaming channel.
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it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE
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Lucyrg95 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:01 pm it's october tomorrow, guess what danny boi, time is up spill that week in march and disappoint us all plEASE
at this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it was about EA/Sims merch. The timeline fits perfectly..
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and the beauty of Phil Lester.

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If it was that ugly Sims merch that they were building up to I'm unstanning
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