Dan & Phil Part 66: Rainbow Nerds

[malday]

I may have missed this being posted but looks like DnP were at the Greenwich observatory 2 days ago (or at least this was posted 2 days ago)

https://instagram.com/p/Bfj0-pLhoCP/

Wow, they do not look happy to be photographed. Phil looks like he's got a star print t-shirt on? Or is that another of his I'm just not recognizing? I'm so intrigued at why the lack of real smiles for this fan pic, usually they cover better (unless it's taken close to where they live).

He's wearing the same jumper he's wearing in his twitter pfp. (the same outfit he wore on his birthday) But we never saw what Dan wore that day.

Hmm. His twitter profile pic was posted January 11, though. which means he wore that shirt then and also on his birhday. It could be that she delayed it posting it, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't just really like that shirt/jacket combo lately. Both of them are guilty of having favorite outfits they wear a ton for a period of time. I hope she comes back and clears the mystery up, if anyone asked on instagram when it was.

Yeah, i meant it's the jumper from his profile pic and not a galaxy t-shirt (not that it was taken on that day, sorry i wrote that in a rush). Like others said it could be this was taken on his birthday trip.

[liola]

They look so good, I'm always impressed by Phil looks broader than Dan even with Dan being taller. The all black really does wonders on both of them.

I'm gonna go with the theory that the fan just delayed posting it (although, wow, almost a month later) because Phil has the exact same outfit on that he had for his birthday. Which, I mean, it could very well just be a coincidence, given he's been wearing that jumper a lot and the rest is his usual black skinny jeans and black coat. It's cute to imagine they just went back to visit the two of them though

[ratlad]

d&p look dead behind the eyes in that pic
i mean, they look good as hell, but unenthused.
but we love a matching black outfit duo!

[Stakhanov]

I may have missed this being posted but looks like DnP were at the Greenwich observatory 2 days ago (or at least this was posted 2 days ago)

https://instagram.com/p/Bfj0-pLhoCP/

Damn you Dan. You made a point out out of not "being a space hipster" and now you're caught in an observatorium? Also I saw you were following spaceX just when the Falcon Heavy launch. Wave your space geek flag already

The weighted blankets: I don't read to much into it either. Who knows why it got phrased that certain way. I don't necessarily think it was a "lie" either, there can be a whole lot of explanations ranging from the mundane to elaborate psychological motivations ... or maybe he basically misspoke

[hello9217]

Someone asked her and she confirmed it was from Phil’s Birthday, may be the reason why they don’t look quite comfortable in the photo.

[autumnhearth]

Someone asked her and she confirmed it was from Phil’s Birthday, may be the reason why they don’t look quite comfortable in the photo.

Thanks, that solves that mystery! And yeah, Phil is putting on a smile, but Dan is not amused and being approached during a family outing explains it well enough for me.

[alittledizzy]

Someone asked her and she confirmed it was from Phil’s Birthday, may be the reason why they don’t look quite comfortable in the photo.

Thanks, that solves that mystery! And yeah, Phil is putting on a smile, but Dan is not amused and being approached during a family outing explains it well enough for me.

Yeah, it definitely explains it. I wonder how long they asked her to delay posting it for? At this point I'm quite sure they do ask people not to post pictures when they're out somewhere.

[Amiaw]

I only meant it was a lie in the broadest definition of the word- they weren’t telling the whole truth. I don’t think it’s a big deal, I was just simply saying that deppy omit, change, or stretch the truth a lot. I’d probably do it too if I was in their shoes.

[Stakhanov]

Indeed @Amiaw and they do it without a second a thought the sneaky sneks.

I don't think they were that unhappy that a photo was taken. Yes, they don't look particularly excited or aren't smiling in the picture but that how i would expect them to actually look when they aren't forcing a smile a for a photo. They don't look 'unhappy' either to me. Maybe they just didn't feel like posing for the picture the way they usually do. We don't know what the reason behind it is, if there is one. To assume they felt "caught" or didn't want to be in the picture or asked to wait with the posting is a stretch imo. They did agree to take a picture with the girl after all. It's possible they were "unhappy about it", but we don't know that at all we're just projecting our own speculations on the situation.

[yellowsubmarine]

Idk they look fine to me. A simple smile and that's it. But I agree they probs asked the girl to post it later and tbh I get it.

[fancybum]

Indeed @Amiaw and they do it without a second a thought the sneaky sneks.

I don't think they were that unhappy that a photo was taken. Yes, they don't look particularly excited or aren't smiling in the picture but that how i would expect them to actually look when they aren't forcing a smile a for a photo. They don't look 'unhappy' either to me. Maybe they just didn't feel like posing for the picture the way they usually do. We don't know what the reason behind it is, if there is one. To assume they felt "caught" or didn't want to be in the picture or asked to wait with the posting is a stretch imo. They did agree to take a picture with the girl after all. It's possible they were "unhappy about it", but we don't know that at all we're just projecting our own speculations on the situation.

I mean, yeah, welcome to the internet. Are you maybe misunderstanding what people are assuming would be the reasoning for asking a fan to wait on posting pictures (or maybe I’m misunderstanding why you think assuming they’d do so would be “a stretch”)? It’s not about being “caught” (caught.. out and about together? Do you think that’s the assumed area of concern? They themselves literally posted pics from that day, nobody thinks they wanted that aspect unpublicized), it’s about not wanting their real-time whereabouts (as in: while they’re still there) spread around social media to avoid the possibility of the crazies so-inclined to go hunt them down if they find out they’re remotely nearby. They themselves only post about their out-in-public activities after they’ve already been and gone, so why would it be a stretch for them to ask a fan to do the same, out of respect for their privacy/safety? And convenience, especially in this case where Phil’s parents are somewhere off camera, waiting. It’s not exactly the ideal time for an unwanted m&g.

[Amiaw]

I can’t link because on my phone but Cornelia just posted some birthday party pics

[alittledizzy]

+1 to @fancybum's response above, I'm pretty sure no one thinks Dan and Phil were unhappy about having been seen out together. It's the specific circumstance that makes everyone assume they were less than thrilled.

Anyway, Cornelia had a birthday party! Dan and Phil are lurking in a few of the pictures.

[autumnhearth]

Cornelia looks fab! Queen!
Also my that’s a lot of people!

[alien]

+1 to @fancybum's response above, I'm pretty sure no one thinks Dan and Phil were unhappy about having been seen out together. It's the specific circumstance that makes everyone assume they were less than thrilled.

Anyway, Cornelia had a birthday party! Dan and Phil are lurking in a few of the pictures.

She's such a babe

[yellowsubmarine]

I'm so glad they threw her a bday party that big!!! She deserves it she looks so happy.

Also pardon me but everyone is looking like a snacc or what

[000dia000]

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I really hate the kind of negativity that some people get for approaching deppy and asking for a selfie. I know that there is a social etiquette involved with approaching someone and also if a time is appropriate but it's kind of horrible to see comments that deppy are giving disingenuous smiles and look bitter that their "family" time is being interrupted. Must be pretty shitty to read if you're a fan and people say that deppy are uncomfortable in your presence. I guess the only time that deppy will give a shit about you and put on a "genuine" smile is when you pay a hundred dollars for a meet and greet. People are really constructing some sort of conspiracy with the girl delaying posting the picture and about this being "family" time and treating their entire lives like some fanfiction. Maybe the girl just posted it in her own time because she is just a casual fan and maybe deppy weren't smiling because they don't have to smile all the time. You don't need to lay me the facts about how it's their private life etc and explain how people used to stalk their flat or whatever, but there's no need to treat a fan asking someone they admire for a pic to be some horrible act. Also that them not smiling means that they're uncomfortable. She ran into them accidentally, didn't chase them to their doorstep. A couple of years ago, people used to jump on random encounters because it would prove that they were alive and left the house. Why is everyone treating deppy like children?

[alittledizzy]

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I really hate the kind of negativity that some people get for approaching deppy and asking for a selfie. I know that there is a social etiquette involved with approaching someone and also if a time is appropriate but it's kind of horrible to see comments that deppy are giving disingenuous smiles and look bitter that their "family" time is being interrupted. Must be pretty shitty to read if you're a fan and people say that deppy are uncomfortable in your presence. I guess the only time that deppy will give a shit about you and put on a "genuine" smile is when you pay a hundred dollars for a meet and greet. People are really constructing some sort of conspiracy with the girl delaying posting the picture and about this being "family" time and treating their entire lives like some fanfiction. Maybe the girl just posted it in her own time because she is just a casual fan and maybe deppy weren't smiling because they don't have to smile all the time. You don't need to lay me the facts about how it's their private life etc and explain how people used to stalk their flat or whatever, but there's no need to treat a fan asking someone they admire for a pic to be some horrible act. Also that them not smiling means that they're uncomfortable. She ran into them accidentally, didn't chase them to their doorstep. A couple of years ago, people used to jump on random encounters because it would prove that they were alive and left the house. Why is everyone treating deppy like children?

I'm not really sure what about any of this comes across as treating them like children? Or why it seems like a negative to you to assume that they wouldn't want fans to post pictures of them out somewhere when they'll still be in that place for hours yet, and are with family? There's absolutely nothing unreasonable about that, in my opinion. It's not being overprotective, and no one is saying the picture is a horrible act? This forum has had countless conversations about approaching them in public vs not approaching them in public. There's no group mentality here; a lot of people openly admit they would, a lot of people say they wouldn't.

Everyone's free to express whatever opinion they do have. I think they don't look happy, and I think it makes sense that it's because they were out with family members who aren't public figures and didn't want fans going online saying where they were and causing more fans to appear. That's not conspiracy. That's my opinion, and one that makes sense to me. Some people seem to share that - some don't. And most of us are managing to express that without trying to invalidate each other or talk down to anyone else. I wouldn't advocate for treating other posters like children who need to be lectured any more than you want anyone treating Dan and Phil like that.

(And yeah, people will refer back to past behavior when making comparisons and drawing conclusions about their behavior. It's not "laying the facts" on someone to prove them wrong - it's discussion. We're discussing things that we've discussed in the past, but with a new example to factor in. That's just what people do on forums. To quote @fancybum, welcome to the internet.)

[autumnhearth]

000dia000 I wasn’t passing any judgement on the girl for approaching them and asking for a picture, just reading into what I perceived as a bit of tension in their faces, but I could be way off base. I was told frequently as a child to smile more, so I get that.

I don’t think anyone was lecturing anyone or defending deppy at all.

[fancybum]

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I really hate the kind of negativity that some people get for approaching deppy and asking for a selfie. I know that there is a social etiquette involved with approaching someone and also if a time is appropriate but it's kind of horrible to see comments that deppy are giving disingenuous smiles and look bitter that their "family" time is being interrupted. Must be pretty shitty to read if you're a fan and people say that deppy are uncomfortable in your presence. I guess the only time that deppy will give a shit about you and put on a "genuine" smile is when you pay a hundred dollars for a meet and greet. People are really constructing some sort of conspiracy with the girl delaying posting the picture and about this being "family" time and treating their entire lives like some fanfiction. Maybe the girl just posted it in her own time because she is just a casual fan and maybe deppy weren't smiling because they don't have to smile all the time. You don't need to lay me the facts about how it's their private life etc and explain how people used to stalk their flat or whatever, but there's no need to treat a fan asking someone they admire for a pic to be some horrible act. Also that them not smiling means that they're uncomfortable. She ran into them accidentally, didn't chase them to their doorstep. A couple of years ago, people used to jump on random encounters because it would prove that they were alive and left the house. Why is everyone treating deppy like children?

2+2=fish? Do you want to quote anybody here calling that fan a monster or writing some kind of elaborate fan fiction? D&P can be fine doing something while also ~potentially~ preferring not to (edit: and acknowledging the complexities of things like that and contexts - like airports vs street vs yes literal family time? - being part of it isn’t an indictment against any one person. Things aren’t 100% good or bad). Nobody was made out as a monster at any point of the discussion on here? If you want to accuse people of being over reactive or whatever you were going for, I mean, sometimes the call is coming from inside the house lol

[Stakhanov]

Indeed @Amiaw and they do it without a second a thought the sneaky sneks.

I don't think they were that unhappy that a photo was taken. Yes, they don't look particularly excited or aren't smiling in the picture but that how i would expect them to actually look when they aren't forcing a smile a for a photo. They don't look 'unhappy' either to me. Maybe they just didn't feel like posing for the picture the way they usually do. We don't know what the reason behind it is, if there is one. To assume they felt "caught" or didn't want to be in the picture or asked to wait with the posting is a stretch imo. They did agree to take a picture with the girl after all. It's possible they were "unhappy about it", but we don't know that at all we're just projecting our own speculations on the situation.

I mean, yeah, welcome to the internet.

Welcome too I feel it's good to point out at times that we have very little information and tend to read whole lot into situations where we just don't know the details. That's all.

Are you maybe misunderstanding what people are assuming would be the reasoning for asking a fan to wait on posting pictures (or maybe I’m misunderstanding why you think assuming they’d do so would be “a stretch”)?

No. I didn't think it was about being seen together or being "caught". I'm saying that we don't know and can't assume they asked the girl to delay it. That could be the case, for some of the reasons you spell out in the post or for totally unrelated reasons we don't know from either D&P or the girl. Or it could not have been purposefully delayed. It's not like every time they bump up to a fan the picture is delayed for days, so on what grounds are we assuming that in this particular case it was?
We don't know the circumstances either and if they actually were less thrilled. I wouldn't equate the usual photo pose they do to reveal anything about how 'thrilled' they actually are at that moment to meet a fan. I don't think they looked unhappy, particular circumstances or not, to start with. Their expressions seem fairly neutral to me. The circumstance could be that their was family, or it could be just that they didn't really expect to meet someone there, or that the general environment didn't really make the feel that accommodating. It's fun to speculate ofc and maybe it was about trying to avoid that people would drive to the Royal Observatory right then and there or it was family related but it doesn't need be and I like to offer my own view and consider other possibilities, like we all do here.

It’s not about being “caught” (caught.. out and about together? Do you think that’s the assumed area of concern? They themselves literally posted pics from that day, nobody thinks they wanted that aspect unpublicized), it’s about not wanting their real-time whereabouts (as in: while they’re still there) spread around social media to avoid the possibility of the crazies so-inclined to go hunt them down if they find out they’re remotely nearby. They themselves only post about their out-in-public activities after they’ve already been and gone, so why would it be a stretch for them to ask a fan to do the same, out of respect for their privacy/safety? And convenience, especially in this case where Phil’s parents are somewhere off camera, waiting. It’s not exactly the ideal time for an unwanted m&g.

Well that's one scenario and it might be the right one but it comes with a lot of added assumptions, that's all i'm saying.
It's mainly the statement that they look less that thrilled to be in the picture and that there needs to be a lot of reasons for that in the first place that i still think is a stretch. But it seems we don't agree, and that's fine. It's nice to read people's opinions on the things they do.

Anyway i totally agree that everyone in their party looks like a snacc and it's a thing i see everywhere they go. They must only know people who look ridiculously good and are photogenic like they are :mrgreen:

[whelpkeeper]

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I really hate the kind of negativity that some people get for approaching deppy and asking for a selfie. I know that there is a social etiquette involved with approaching someone and also if a time is appropriate but it's kind of horrible to see comments that deppy are giving disingenuous smiles and look bitter that their "family" time is being interrupted. Must be pretty shitty to read if you're a fan and people say that deppy are uncomfortable in your presence. I guess the only time that deppy will give a shit about you and put on a "genuine" smile is when you pay a hundred dollars for a meet and greet. People are really constructing some sort of conspiracy with the girl delaying posting the picture and about this being "family" time and treating their entire lives like some fanfiction. Maybe the girl just posted it in her own time because she is just a casual fan and maybe deppy weren't smiling because they don't have to smile all the time. You don't need to lay me the facts about how it's their private life etc and explain how people used to stalk their flat or whatever, but there's no need to treat a fan asking someone they admire for a pic to be some horrible act. Also that them not smiling means that they're uncomfortable. She ran into them accidentally, didn't chase them to their doorstep. A couple of years ago, people used to jump on random encounters because it would prove that they were alive and left the house. Why is everyone treating deppy like children?

I think a lot of people here value DnP's privacy and understand that, while they may be in a public space, they'd probably prefer getting to enjoy each other's company without having to feel "on" because people that know them are watching.

I guess it's fair to say that if a fan is respectful, and if it's a random encounter, then it's alright to go up to them and deferentially ask for a photo- and DnP aren't the type to turn down a fan's request for a pic. But what do DnP owe their fans, really? I feel like not getting to fully enjoy an outing like a normal person because people come up to you would suck, even if they signed on for that by building up a large public image. Even if they end up posting photos themselves of the same day, it's different because they can't control the angle, or anything about how the photo looks if they're not the ones taking it and posting it.

I'd like to think that personally, if it seemed like they were enjoy private time by themselves or with family, I wouldn't intrude on that by reminding them that they're famous and everywhere they go there could be prying eyes- but who knows what I'd do if I saw them a few feet away and I never thought I'd have an opportunity like that again? At the end of the day, it's really your call- if you want to ask for a pic, by all means do so, who is anyone to judge? I just don't see what you gain from taking a quick, semi-forced selfie with someone and having curt conversation, just for the sake of saying you "met them".

Celebrity interactions are a social grey-area, so it's really up to personal judgement on what's appropriate and respectful and what's not. In this situation, the girl wasn't necessarily in the wrong for getting a photo- but if she knew it was Phil's birthday and they were out celebrating privately, maybe she should have just let them be for the night? Again, no judgement on my part- everyone views these things differently, and so long as DnP are willing to take photos with fans who ask, there's going to be people who approach them during times that they may not want to be disturbed.

[000dia000]

I'm not really sure what about any of this comes across as treating them like children? Or why it seems like a negative to you to assume that they wouldn't want fans to post pictures of them out somewhere when they'll still be in that place for hours yet, and are with family? There's absolutely nothing unreasonable about that, in my opinion. It's not being overprotective, and no one is saying the picture is a horrible act? This forum has had countless conversations about approaching them in public vs not approaching them in public. There's no group mentality here; a lot of people openly admit they would, a lot of people say they wouldn't.

Everyone's free to express whatever opinion they do have. I think they don't look happy, and I think it makes sense that it's because they were out with family members who aren't public figures and didn't want fans going online saying where they were and causing more fans to appear. That's not conspiracy. That's my opinion, and one that makes sense to me. Some people seem to share that - some don't. And most of us are managing to express that without trying to invalidate each other or talk down to anyone else. I wouldn't advocate for treating other posters like children who need to be lectured any more than you want anyone treating Dan and Phil like that.

(And yeah, people will refer back to past behavior when making comparisons and drawing conclusions about their behavior. It's not "laying the facts" on someone to prove them wrong - it's discussion. We're discussing things that we've discussed in the past, but with a new example to factor in. That's just what people do on forums.

Yeah, that's your opinion, everyone has an opinion, I gave mine. I'm just commenting a response to both sides of the argument. Maybe I'm just disappointed that there is no real enthusiasm for deppy interacting with fans? Deppy are celebrities, no matter if deppy want it or not, they put videos out there, they're a public figure and have crossed over (in instances) into mainstream media. If they were all humble about it, maybe I'd play the game, but they make merch, they have a brand, they make money off their audience. They went on a tour, released two online movies for it, are planning a second tour. They're popular guys and popular people, it's not so radical that people would spot them in real life and want to approach them. The point I'm trying to make is, that people treat deppy like they're untouchables and so, whenever a fan approaches them and treats them like a celebrity, suddenly people get defensive? It's not such a radical thought. That's just my opinion.

2+2=fish? Do you want to quote anybody here calling that fan a monster or writing some kind of elaborate fan fiction? D&P can be fine doing something while also ~potentially~ preferring not to (edit: and acknowledging the complexities of things like that and contexts - like airports vs street vs yes literal family time? - being part of it isn’t an indictment against any one person. Things aren’t 100% good or bad). Nobody was made out as a monster at any point of the discussion on here? If you want to accuse people of being over reactive or whatever you were going for, I mean, sometimes the call is coming from inside the house lol

I guess I can't use hyperbole and have to give an essay long response for someone to be clear that I know the regular discussions of this forum. I'd actually try to respond but there's no point, is there?

@whelpkeeper yeah I agree, it's a kind of grey area

[SquishPhan]

Seems like Cordelia had a nice birthday party.

So funny story, I went to my local museum to watch a photography exhibition only to find out that Dan is very randomly in one of the pics. Can’t escape Deppy, not even in a museum.

[fancybum]

I guess I can't use hyperbole and have to give an essay long response for someone to be clear that I know the regular discussions of this forum. I'd actually try to respond but there's no point, is there?

I literally don’t even know what this is supposed to mean, so yeah maybe there’s no point