Dan & Phil Part 67: Laughter, Food and Sex

[malday]

I thought the video was ok but they were too much into their presenter personas, being used to how casual they can be on their gaming channel i can't really enjoy the act they put on main channels anymore.

@Afunnyworld good catch!

[kindofatrashcan]

That's what i call damage control.

I love Phil

[dancy]

This is exactly what I needed, something lighthearted and the boys being silly! Yes to the earring! And Dan trying to explain why Armie Hammer is showing up by saying it's just because he's a popular celebrity, as if he didn't literally make a cocktail named after his nuts .

I really wasn't expecting the video to come so soon tbh and the fact that it was filmed only 8 hours ago and has already been uploaded does make me wonder whether Phil plans on doing a live show tomorrow (and whether this is also damage control).

[Ablissa]

This is the first time in ages that I haven't rushed to watch a video of theirs (when able to watch it). I don't know, I'll watch it at some point, but right now, I just feel tired of things. Sorry to be a downer, I'm sure there is at least one person that feels the same way though.

[mm_sunny1993]

I'm just gonna ignore the drama of the last few days because I can understand everyone's opinions and I think it is justified that some are upset or sad but tbh I got rather annoyed seeing this discourse on every platform so I had to take a step back. It didn't feel like a safe place to me anymore.
What Phil is doing right now does seem to be damage control & to ease us and get us something new to talk about and I seriously hope it's gonna work.
(I hope no one is taking what I say the wrong way. I don't want to offend anybody with how I word my phrases.)

RE Phil's video: I like the earring on dan, it does suit him. You can never go wrong with wearing black as they show once again. Their explore pages seemed to be quite similar which is nice. There was nothing unexpected but also nothing new. Still I was entertained and I already rewatched it so that's a good sign I guess. I'm glad we got a video today and I enjoyed it.

Filmed 8 hours ago? Wow that's quite impressive. Good damage control. Thanks Phil.

[snokoplasmic]

Now equipped with the knowledge that this was filmed probably about 8 hours ago, I am almost certain that this video was damage control, and I love Phil

[Evening42]

That's what i call damage control.

I love Phil

This! I agree

[Ewok]

Some rambly, too-long thoughts:

Well... it was damage control. Seeing that they appear to have filmed it, edited and uploaded all within the same day reaffirms that belief for me. I think going into this video, suspecting that it was damage control lessened my enjoyment of it and made me look at everything a bit skeptically, but oh well.

Dan still seemed a bit snarky in some moments - notably when he made a comment about the girl's ass, and when he rolled his eyes? or shot some sort of look at Phil when Phil told him off for the sausage thing. I really got the impression that Dan was still in a funk over all the drama, but that could just be me projecting because I have absolutely been petty like that in the past.

I also rolled my eyes at the 'what are you looking at on your phone at 3am? I know too much about you now!' jokes. I dunno. Maybe I'm just still residually upset with Dan, rofl. Geez.

But then - there were other moments where they were both cracking jokes about being attracted to men and dragging one another for it. Was this part of the damage control? Reaffirming something about their attraction to men when... that was never truly the issue in the first place (for most of us, anyways)? I could be reading too deep into it.

The real highlight of this video was the nose boop, and playful teasing from Phil. He was so sweet in this video and seemed like he was trying his best to bring Dan out of that mood. What a sweetie.

Dan does look good. He really pulls off the one earring well.

Interesting that it seems like everyone and their mother is having issues with their videos not appearing in subscription boxes.

I'll definitely have to rewatch later when I'm feeling less salty with Dan, lmao.

[Catallena]

Great damage control lads

I genuinely enjoyed the video, but probably would have enjoyed it more if it weren't for yesterday. The comments from Dan about how this and that was only on us his feed 'because of us' were not as cute as they usually would have been. Then there was the sausage joke. And the 'shove it up my ass' bit. And I sat here (admittedly a tiny bit salty) like "Oh boy am I allowed to say anything about that at all Dan? Am I? Or will I miss your true deep artistic intentions again??" but then I remember that this is Phil video so it was all good. But meh, why would I.

So yeah. It was cute. They looked good. And I hope Phil manages to pull his views back up.

[phillyforgot]

Now equipped with the knowledge that this was filmed probably about 8 hours ago, I am almost certain that this video was damage control, and I love Phil

I really do have a hard time believing that this wasn't deliberately uploaded today. I'm pretty sure Phil's been doing a good level of thinking before uploading that.

He probably knew people were mad at Dan and called him over for a video to make sure his reputation isn't permanently tarnished.

It definitely worked on me, so I can't really criticise him too much for it.

[sugar]

i've seen a lot of discourse on tumblr about dan blaming us for the gay things in his explore page and relating it to yesterday and...i know it's easy to see it in this way after what happened yesterday but i think it's to be meant as a joke, we're not yet at the point where he's going to say he likes looking at topless men on instagram with a totally straight face so this is what he went with and i think if it weren't for yesterday's events that we'd look past it and see it as a joke.

i, like many people, was hurt by yesterday in some ways but i don't think we have to have that image at the forefront of our minds any time we interact with dan's content now. i think any other time people wouldn't have had this reaction so i wish we could separate the events and try to enjoy it as we normally would.

[liola]

Phil Lester, king of damage control, beauty, talent, kindness, looking good in black and liking men on his explore page without making too much of a fuss about it.

[tyhane]

I don't want to bring back discourse that seems like it's cooled down a bit, but I really want to get something off my chest that I didn't have time to yesterday so uh feel free to ignore.

I've just went ahead and blacklisted "no homo" on tumblr because jesus if I see it again I'm going to scream. I was among the people that had a negative reaction to the liveshow, but mine was more based on Dan seeming annoyed that people focused on the sex jokes. It struck me as pretentious, just like the video itself did. But that's besides the point, because even if he was meaning to backtrack on the dick jokes in the video, that doesn't... negate his queerness? And how open he's been recently? There's more levels than just In or Out, whatever that even means in people's minds, and Dan deciding that the level of openness the video expressed was too much for him doesn't make me mad at him. (Whether he thought it was fine then later regretted it or somehow genuinely misspoke makes no difference.) And maybe I'm taking it a little personally when that does make people mad.
A lot of the people that are upset are upset in regards to the way he went about it - the way he framed it like it was the audience's fault for misinterpretation it, the tone he used, etc., and I get that. I even agree with it on some fronts. And to be clear I haven't seen anyone saying that they take this as "Dan's actually straight" or anything. But I've seen people acting like Dan's somehow now done a 180 and is going to completely shut off in regards to expressing his sexuality and I'm just. A mixture of confusion and semi-annoyance? I'm a big advocate of "people can have and express opinions (even negative ones)", or at least I try to remind myself to be. So I'm not like, idk, saying that people should have to keep their thoughts to themselves. I guess I'm just getting it off my chest like I said.

Anyway, I liked the video, not sure if it was anything extraordinary or rewatch-worthy, but I liked it better than the drawing my viewers video at least.

[anonymousdork]

Great damage control lads

I genuinely enjoyed the video, but probably would have enjoyed it more if it weren't for yesterday. The comments from Dan about how this and that was only on us his feed 'because of us' were not as cute as they usually would have been. Then there was the sausage joke. And the 'shove it up my ass' bit. And I sat here (admittedly a tiny bit salty) like "Oh boy am I allowed to say anything about that at all Dan? Am I? Or will I miss your true deep artistic intentions again??" but then I remember that this is Phil video so it was all good. But meh, why would I.

So yeah. It was cute. They looked good. And I hope Phil manages to pull his views back up.

Thanks @Catallena for making me laugh

[anonymousdork]

Phil Lester, king of damage control, beauty, talent, kindness, looking good in black and liking men on his explore page without making too much of a fuss about it.

And he's fine with uploading a hastily-made, damage-controlling fluff video to his main channel, because not everything he uploads has to be An Artistic Production™. Which is not a problem I have with Dan, he has his own creative process. But if anything good is coming out of this, it's the affirmation of how much I love Phil.

(Sorry for the double post)

[hello9217]

Phil Lester, king of damage control, beauty, talent, kindness, looking good in black and liking men on his explore page without making too much of a fuss about it.

This is where I wish Dan would learn. Topless men show up on his explore page Phil will just fucking giggle about it; Dan will go into this whole thing about how the only reason anything is there is because of us (his audience.) Anyway Phil Lester you deserve something for being great at PR and being a fantastic friend.

[snokoplasmic]

Great damage control lads

I genuinely enjoyed the video, but probably would have enjoyed it more if it weren't for yesterday. The comments from Dan about how this and that was only on us his feed 'because of us' were not as cute as they usually would have been. Then there was the sausage joke. And the 'shove it up my ass' bit. And I sat here (admittedly a tiny bit salty) like "Oh boy am I allowed to say anything about that at all Dan? Am I? Or will I miss your true deep artistic intentions again??" but then I remember that this is Phil video so it was all good. But meh, why would I.

So yeah. It was cute. They looked good. And I hope Phil manages to pull his views back up.

That reminds me of this post on Tumblr I saw earlier

and while I think the anon was a bit poorly worded, I strongly agree with the response

[wiccamoody]

The last 24 hours have really made it blatantly obvious Dan doesn't like to own up to his actions. Tbh it makes me feel for him because I know it's coming from a place on insecurity (and I'm not trying to speculate on his mental health because I don't know him or what's going on inside his head, but he doesn't seem to be in a great place right now) however, it's also frustrating (and disappointing that he's still doing this as I've been here for 4 years and have watched this happen at least once a year) that he's projecting this onto an audience of diverse people who aren't all going to react the way he wants us to.

Anyway it was a cute video but the fact that it was filmed today and he still went ahead and said that aggravates me. But I'll let it go like everything else (in a forgive but don't forget kinda way I suppose), and it really doesn't negate the fact I actually enjoyed the video, and that Phil is the king of damage control, as well as being my fave forever.

[greenergrass]

I really enjoyed the video. I think I would have enjoyed it even more if it weren't for yesterday, because I got a bit of a weird vibe from Dan. The video was definitely damage control, but hey I can't really complain because they both looked great (seriously, it's not fair for Dan to look that attractive when I'm slightly annoyed with him), and it was great, lighthearted content. Phil was really great, thank you for being you Phil (so was Dan, but Phil really shone - he does damage control well).

There were lots of great and cute moments, but a standout moment I want to mention relates to the liveshow yesterday:

At 8:46, Dan says "I'd nibble on the sausage", and Phil responds "Don't. Don't!" I love Phil. He definitely heard Dan complain to him too much after the dinof video and again after the liveshow, and was just like, 'don't start this shit again, Dan'. I would kill to be a fly on the wall before and after that liveshow last night.

And Dan's look at Phil after, and then his look into the camera. I don't know how to read that. Because he was obviously acknowledging the moment in relation to the dickscourse, but I got a sense of him being annoyed too. At himself? At us? At both? Who knows. Was that look of acknowledgement also supposed to be some kind of appeasement too? Like, 'hey I know what happened and here's me telling you I know what happened, and look I'm still making dick jokes because I like dicks and the issue was never people thinking I liked dicks, I just was annoyed at the full situation but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop making dick jokes so there'. Am I reading too much into this? Who knows? I don't know. Does Dan even know?

[jaej]

i can't believe phil threw the first brick at stonewall, queer icon

[nigel ratburn]

And Dan's look at Phil after, and then his look into the camera. I don't know how to read that. Because he was obviously acknowledging the moment in relation to the dickscourse, but I got a sense of him being annoyed too. At himself? At us? At both? Who knows. Was that look of acknowledgement also supposed to be some kind of appeasement too? Like, 'hey I know what happened and here's me telling you I know what happened, and look I'm still making dick jokes because I like dicks and the issue was never people thinking I liked dicks, I just was annoyed at the full situation but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop making dick jokes so there'. Am I reading too much into this? Who knows? I don't know. Does Dan even know?

that was kind of how i interpreted it, too? along with all the male attraction references it seemed a pretty deliberate "i'm still being forthright with being queer, i just didn't appreciate that that was what people took away from the video." probably just wishful thinking, it was probably just him being a brat . although, who knows, maybe he had NO IDEA how that joke was going to come across and we're all just missing the point!! shame on me for even speculating, how dare i.

i still enjoyed the video, though. bless phil and his damage-control abilities.

(i also really liked the vogueing and nina bonina brown videos in dan's recommended feed; it makes me think that he's been looking up stuff related to drag race and that makes me happy)

[ratlad]

i can't believe phil threw the first brick at stonewall, queer icon

i just made a loud noise i can't really explain, but i think it was some sort of laugh

[Catallena]

Great damage control lads

I genuinely enjoyed the video, but probably would have enjoyed it more if it weren't for yesterday. The comments from Dan about how this and that was only on us his feed 'because of us' were not as cute as they usually would have been. Then there was the sausage joke. And the 'shove it up my ass' bit. And I sat here (admittedly a tiny bit salty) like "Oh boy am I allowed to say anything about that at all Dan? Am I? Or will I miss your true deep artistic intentions again??" but then I remember that this is Phil video so it was all good. But meh, why would I.

So yeah. It was cute. They looked good. And I hope Phil manages to pull his views back up.

That reminds me of this post on Tumblr I saw earlier

and while I think the anon was a bit poorly worded, I strongly agree with the response

That response hit the nail on the head and was exactly the thought behind what I said.

Dan's obsession with the quality of literally everything he does... I know I've been pissy at him for the last 24 hours but I do know that it's difficult for him too. Doesn't take away that hearing him talk about it is a solid equivalent of nails on chalkboard, but I do generally feel for him.

[fieldoflovers]

So the video was fu. It was a pretty cute idea and honestly it doesn’t matter to me that it was made quickly to calm people down. It did its job of being familiar, the jokes were predictible but it worked cause it reminds people why they like dan and phil.

The one suprise was cannabias and phil and i loved it! Can stoner!phil please be the the next pastel persona??

Phil’s little touches of reassurance to Dan killed me and just uhh i hope all of you find a phil in your lives.

One point of saltiness i def had however was throughout the video i felt uncomfortable cause i was wondering what i can comment on. Like i noticed the vogueing thing and pre liveshow i would have said something abput how glad i am that dan is exploring gay culture. But now even though they included that in the video and are okay with it i feel weird saying something b/c that isn’t the focus of the video and it feels like i’m doing something wrong by focusing on the thing that stood out to me.

Idk i hope one of you understand that. I guess next time dan posts a vague video with a non-specific message in it, i’ll try not to talk about what made me laugh.

one last thing: dan really knows the way to win us back over is by wearing earrings huh? I’m not complaining at all.

[ratlad]

i laughed when phil called Nina "giant lobster woman" or something ???
also i took note as a fellow Gay Fella™ that dan wore a gold hoop on his right ear only
ok, edit: I'm not labelling dan as gay, i didn't intend for it to even sound like that at all, it's just a word i use in replacement of "queer" sometimes. carry on.
..... was this intended or is it a #EpicPrank???
cause he really must have known the (albeit pretty outdated) symbolism behind that
i wonder if it really was like "hey, i still acknowledge my queer identity and I'm fine with other's acknowledging it too, my video wasn't just all about eating ass or succin dicc! but it's totally fine!!!"

i still see a lot of negativity on tumblr though :/ this definitely was damage control and Phil wanting to make his boyfriend happy and giggle by teasing him.

it also put a disgusting image in my head of DnP laying in bed at night scrolling through insta showing each other dog videos, ugh. they definitely do that, especially when dan said "while I'm looking at dog videos in bed you're looking at (weird shit)" or something along those lines..

tell me if i am wrong, but was there a little rose ornament on Phil's dresser in the background? the green and red thing... hmmm.....
yeah anyway i think phil just wanted to cheer dan up
also Phil's room is so small and that still makes me laugh. even though it's probably bigger than mine, but I'm not a millionaire so i can laugh.