liola wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:26 pmfirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!
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firsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!
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I just want to say since it seems like the phan/anti discussion stemmed from my earlier post that I was not trying to be a troll or rile anybody up. I even said in my post that I wasn’t trying to make an anti argument. I’ve gone back and forth on what I believe, but I’ve pretty much firmly planted myself in the “I’m probs never going to know if they’re together and tbh it doesn’t really make a difference to me” camp. While I do think the discussion can be interesting sometimes (especially when people bring new perspectives as someone said earlier), that definitely was not my intention. I was more just curious about people’s reactions.
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every time i rewatch an old video now or see older gifs i feel as if reality is glitching because my mind can't process phil's fringe anymore. i've been wondering: imo phil's fringe used to look a lot better a few years back than it did shortly before he changed his hairstyle and i think it's plausible that this was due to him actually not styling his hair in a fringe anymore when he wasn't outside where viewers could spot him or on camera. now, here's the hot take: do you think that it's possible judging from the haircut that the decrease in fringe quality actually indicates that phil's hair wasn't cut to be styled in a fringe anymore and that it was instead a quiff hairstyle forced back into a fringe on camera/outside, allowing him to wear the hairstyle he truly wanted at home?
i do realise that this is completely irrelevant but i've been thinking about this
i do realise that this is completely irrelevant but i've been thinking about this
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I really wish we had a like-button on idb haha. Thumbs up to you my friend. And I agree, they have a great relationship, and maybe I'm just being sensitive about their teasing.ame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:49 pmfirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!
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I don't think his hair was actually cut into the quiff until the short period of time before he decided to share that first picture of his new hair, but I do think he wore his hair pushed back at home for a while out of ease. I think the increase in splinges and general weird lego-flatness was a mix of some bad haircuts and I guess getting older and having thinner hair (I could be wrong though )lurker wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:09 pm every time i rewatch an old video now or see older gifs i feel as if reality is glitching because my mind can't process phil's fringe anymore. i've been wondering: imo phil's fringe used to look a lot better a few years back than it did shortly before he changed his hairstyle and i think it's plausible that this was due to him actually not styling his hair in a fringe anymore when he wasn't outside where viewers could spot him or on camera. now, here's the hot take: do you think that it's possible judging from the haircut that the decrease in fringe quality actually indicates that phil's hair wasn't cut to be styled in a fringe anymore and that it was instead a quiff hairstyle forced back into a fringe on camera/outside, allowing him to wear the hairstyle he truly wanted at home?
i do realise that this is completely irrelevant but i've been thinking about this
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I’m not sure why were hiding this but herefirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 pmI really wish we had a like-button on idb haha. Thumbs up to you my friend. And I agree, they have a great relationship, and maybe I'm just being sensitive about their teasing.ame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:49 pmfirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!
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sorry if this post was a bit of a rambly mess,,, also i haven't been on here for a while but its good to be back
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plot twist: they both play video games NAKEDfieldoflovers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:46 am Changing views on Phan in spoilersorry if this post was a bit of a rambly mess,,, also i haven't been on here for a while but its good to be back
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For some reason I've really started to feel that same gut feeling for the past year.firsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 pmliola wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:26 pmfirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!Also is it just my broken phone, or does it look like you just posted my post? Lmao idk if it's just me, but the layout seems off rn? - firsttimeposter
scientia wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:29 amFor some reason I've really started to feel that same gut feeling for the past year.firsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 pmliola wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:26 pmfirsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pmlefthandedism wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:37 pmI'm just so interested in the opinions of people who used to think they were together/probably together, and now firmly think they are not. All opinions are valid, and no one's gut feeling is more accurate than anyone else's, but I haven't gotten a clear sense of why anyone has changed their mind in that direction.jaej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:13 pm honestly i just feel so, so little actual chemistry between them that isn't blatantly 'this is what fans want to hear' that no amount of "but 8 years ago this happened!!" makes me feel strongly that they're together when i used to be very certain they were like i just don't see it without delving into folder of decade old screenshots and deciding to make up the few years since then
So: can anyone who feels more certain now that Deppy are not together say why? I'm curious!Also is it just my broken phone, or does it look like you just posted my post? Lmao idk if it's just me, but the layout seems off rn? - firsttimeposterBut I've often wondered if the reduction in liveshows is contributing to this; we're not seeing them being "casual" as often and maybe that's what's making things seem distant to me.
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(i'm going to go ahead and follow everyone else's lead and put this is spoiler tags but i'm confused why this convo is being hidden lol)liola wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:01 amscientia wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:29 am
For some reason I've really started to feel that same gut feeling for the past year.But I've often wondered if the reduction in liveshows is contributing to this; we're not seeing them being "casual" as often and maybe that's what's making things seem distant to me.
"He's the guy with his flesh on show. What a hoe.
That's. Our. Dan."
That's. Our. Dan."
Idk why we're still keeping it in spoilers I guess this way people don't see big walls of texts lmaoKatjaZoe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:12 am(i'm going to go ahead and follow everyone else's lead and put this is spoiler tags but i'm confused why this convo is being hidden lol)liola wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:01 amscientia wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:29 am
For some reason I've really started to feel that same gut feeling for the past year.But I've often wondered if the reduction in liveshows is contributing to this; we're not seeing them being "casual" as often and maybe that's what's making things seem distant to me.
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i feel bad for dan's secret boyfriend, honestly.. he's left out of everything, i wonder how he feels about dan going on a world tour with his literal other half that he's constantly flirting with.
no but for real, i feel like as soon as they get more and more open, people start doubting their relationship? it's super weird to me and i don't understand, but you do you.
no but for real, i feel like as soon as they get more and more open, people start doubting their relationship? it's super weird to me and i don't understand, but you do you.
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I generally believe dnp are in a long term relationship, whether they took a break at some point or not, and I’m comfortable with that belief, but because I’m catching up on live shows I can say if I’d been in fan in 2012, even before the vday video had leaked for the second time, I wouldn’t have thought that then. I would have shipped them, or Dan might have just scared me right out of the phandom (though I love him really), but I wouldn’t have been comfortable believing dnp were in a relationship they were explicitly denying.
Even when I watch the old liveshows now I find myself wondering if I’m so wrapped up in fandom that I can’t see they’re “obviously” not together. Then Dan says ‘you’re doing great sweetie’ and puts his head between Phil’s legs before Phil films him in bed at 3am without bothering to explain why (among a thousand other things, don’t come for me for choosing these 3 pls and ty) and I return to the belief that a long term committed relationship is the most accurate and polite way to describe them.
So I can see why people have differing opinions, since my opinions appear to differ based on what year the content I’m watching was created in.
Put me down as one who enjoys hearing differing beliefs, too. I wish there wasn’t a tendency to be defensive or mock what other people perceive to be true, though. That part of sharing differing opinions just makes me anxious.
In response to what @firsttimeposter said earlier, I wanted to say I don’t think it has to be a sad thing if you just don’t believe there’s romantic love between them. Personally I’d find it equally sweet to think dnp have a platonic friendship or a queerplatonic relationship where they love, support, and have as much fun with each other as they clearly do.
Even when I watch the old liveshows now I find myself wondering if I’m so wrapped up in fandom that I can’t see they’re “obviously” not together. Then Dan says ‘you’re doing great sweetie’ and puts his head between Phil’s legs before Phil films him in bed at 3am without bothering to explain why (among a thousand other things, don’t come for me for choosing these 3 pls and ty) and I return to the belief that a long term committed relationship is the most accurate and polite way to describe them.
So I can see why people have differing opinions, since my opinions appear to differ based on what year the content I’m watching was created in.
Put me down as one who enjoys hearing differing beliefs, too. I wish there wasn’t a tendency to be defensive or mock what other people perceive to be true, though. That part of sharing differing opinions just makes me anxious.
In response to what @firsttimeposter said earlier, I wanted to say I don’t think it has to be a sad thing if you just don’t believe there’s romantic love between them. Personally I’d find it equally sweet to think dnp have a platonic friendship or a queerplatonic relationship where they love, support, and have as much fun with each other as they clearly do.
I'm sorry but didn't we just have a mod note about this forum being open to everyone's opinions?
I replied to someone specifically asking for someone to explain their different perspective, hid it in a spoiler tag, and even added a "you know just a thought! could totally be wrong!" disclaimer at the end. But because its any other opinion besides "phan is real" it gets a sarcastic condescending response that makes me regret saying anything in the first place.
I replied to someone specifically asking for someone to explain their different perspective, hid it in a spoiler tag, and even added a "you know just a thought! could totally be wrong!" disclaimer at the end. But because its any other opinion besides "phan is real" it gets a sarcastic condescending response that makes me regret saying anything in the first place.
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That's. Our. Dan."
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Yup Dan's secret boyfriend must be a very understanding person. Never being seen with Dan and now missing out on seeing all these new, exciting places. Poor guy.ratlad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:30 am i feel bad for dan's secret boyfriend, honestly.. he's left out of everything, i wonder how he feels about dan going on a world tour with his literal other half that he's constantly flirting with.
no but for real, i feel like as soon as they get more and more open, people start doubting their relationship? it's super weird to me and i don't understand, but you do you.
But for real if Dan does have a secret boyfriend I honestly feel bad for him.
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Wooh okay here comes my opinion on the whole phan/ no phan/ dan has a secret boyfriend thing:
Anyway, they seem to be on their way to the Copenhagen airport right now, so either they are doing some more sightseeing, or they are flying home from there?
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Strange, I thought they'd immediately go home for a bit after the European tour was done, so they'd have some time to relax before their US tour starts but they're going to Denmark now? I wonder why.
I agree with these. Coming from someone who isn't an anti, I don't really like how people are sometimes made to feel ignorant/stupid for having a different opinion regarding D&P's relationship and I'm actually very interested in seeing these different perspectives and hope people won't feel discouraged from sharing them. I understand that this forum is meant for discussions but sometimes it can kinda come across as ganging up on someone.
KatjaZoe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:01 am I'm sorry but didn't we just have a mod note about this forum being open to everyone's opinions?
I replied to someone specifically asking for someone to explain their different perspective, hid it in a spoiler tag, and even added a "you know just a thought! could totally be wrong!" disclaimer at the end. But because its any other opinion besides "phan is real" it gets a sarcastic condescending response that makes me regret saying anything in the first place.
I agree with these. Coming from someone who isn't an anti, I don't really like how people are sometimes made to feel ignorant/stupid for having a different opinion regarding D&P's relationship and I'm actually very interested in seeing these different perspectives and hope people won't feel discouraged from sharing them. I understand that this forum is meant for discussions but sometimes it can kinda come across as ganging up on someone.
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Don't film the cars, film the view to the sides! It's so gorgeous up there.
I'm pretty sure they are just crossing the bridge because Copenhagen airport has much better connections than Malmö. It's a very short trip.
I'm pretty sure they are just crossing the bridge because Copenhagen airport has much better connections than Malmö. It's a very short trip.
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I love “The Bridge” reference so much. My roommate and I randomly started watching it and got sucked in a couple years ago, and I was excited when Deppy revealed before that they watched it, too.
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now this is a conspiracy i can get behind.obsessivelymoody wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 pmI don't think his hair was actually cut into the quiff until the short period of time before he decided to share that first picture of his new hair, but I do think he wore his hair pushed back at home for a while out of ease. I think the increase in splinges and general weird lego-flatness was a mix of some bad haircuts and I guess getting older and having thinner hair (I could be wrong though )lurker wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:09 pm every time i rewatch an old video now or see older gifs i feel as if reality is glitching because my mind can't process phil's fringe anymore. i've been wondering: imo phil's fringe used to look a lot better a few years back than it did shortly before he changed his hairstyle and i think it's plausible that this was due to him actually not styling his hair in a fringe anymore when he wasn't outside where viewers could spot him or on camera. now, here's the hot take: do you think that it's possible judging from the haircut that the decrease in fringe quality actually indicates that phil's hair wasn't cut to be styled in a fringe anymore and that it was instead a quiff hairstyle forced back into a fringe on camera/outside, allowing him to wear the hairstyle he truly wanted at home?
i do realise that this is completely irrelevant but i've been thinking about this
i really don't know why it looked so flat the last few years, possibly getting it shaved on the sides and/or thinned out with that razor scissoring technique in an effort for it to be shorter also made it less voluminous, which doesn't work when you're going for a full fringe look. so basically yeah, bad haircuts and a hairdresser who'd kind of given up and wasn't steering him in the right direction.
i agree he probs had it pushed back and not styled when not in public, so the leap for him was getting comfortable looking different to others instead of just dan/family/friends at home.
so i guess they're having a little vacation in copenhagen? that's nice. if i'd be them i'd be so tired and ready for my own bed though...
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