Dan & Phil Part 78: have the courage to exist.
Is there a reason I see some people saying phil's up north? Is it just because he said in the mukbang video that he planned on visiting his family soon and people are just assuming? I mean I personally hope that he's up north this weekend so he doesn't go to another event that is probably happening this weekend but I was just wondering.
I'm gonna put my unpopular opinion out there and say that I don't think Dan and Phil value October 19th quite as much as phandom does. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure they remember it, get sentimental, and in some instances, plan content for this holy of days, but I don't think it's that important to them personally.
I'm sure they have other anniversaries they celebrate in a grander fashion. The day they became official. Maybe for funsies, the day they even started talking. But I feel like maybe today isn't as big of a deal for them as it is for us.
I'm sure they have other anniversaries they celebrate in a grander fashion. The day they became official. Maybe for funsies, the day they even started talking. But I feel like maybe today isn't as big of a deal for them as it is for us.
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I think it's more of a fandom holiday than something Dan and Phil go out of their way to celebrate, but I also think it's ridiculous that Dan would be mean-spirited enough to do anything as a 'fuck you' to fans who are celebrating Dan and Phil meeting. I guess I'm between the extremes, I don't think they have that callous a view of things so to be annoyed or bothered by it. I think they obviously understand why people appreciate the day that began Dan and Phil. This is our origin of Dan and Phil, even if it isn't theirs.
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I saw people saying the same thing on tumblr and I don't know where they are taking those infos from? I do think Phil's gonna go up north this weekend but whether he's already there it's another story.hello9217 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:41 pm Is there a reason I see some people saying phil's up north? Is it just because he said in the mukbang video that he planned on visiting his family soon and people are just assuming? I mean I personally hope that he's up north this weekend so he doesn't go to another event that is probably happening this weekend but I was just wondering.
I agree that most probably they don't see this day as their anniversary anyway. It's a special day because it's when everything started and we get all sappy about it and that's great (by the way, I don't agree that Dan or Phil would be annoyed about that because?? Why? I honestly think they hold this particular day dear to their hearts as much as us and they appreciate people celebrating it)but I feel like they have another special day just for them that we will never know about.
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The BBFC exists to classify films, etc. The description of a few things like that is to let people know if anything specific stands out and those are the few things, alongside the whole thing passing as a 12, that people might want to know about before they or their kids watch. When I see people getting upset over stuff in a film, I tend to think I'd be less bothered, kids aren't necessarily so sensitive to everything, but it depends what it is (eg violence would bother me, but not something sexual, unless it was really graphic). I don't think they're being hypocritical or extrapolating that the UK's saving the kids until their army days, they're just giving information. I was reading their FAQ, which is surprisingly open in just how they write it, they have to watch some nasty stuff since you've got true crime etc.
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first and foremost, happy phannie day yall!!! heres a good reminder to use the hashtag #thankyoudanandphil to let them know our appreciation. (also i saw #internationalphannieday and im cackling...its our official holiday)
on that note...
on that note...
+1 to this. they could be celebrating it or not, but what i know is that its the day we celebrate by showing them how much we love them. they could choose to give it a nod or not, but its still a cute sentiment.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:53 pm I think it's more of a fandom holiday than something Dan and Phil go out of their way to celebrate, but I also think it's ridiculous that Dan would be mean-spirited enough to do anything as a 'fuck you' to fans who are celebrating Dan and Phil meeting. I guess I'm between the extremes, I don't think they have that callous a view of things so to be annoyed or bothered by it. I think they obviously understand why people appreciate the day that began Dan and Phil. This is our origin of Dan and Phil, even if it isn't theirs.
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I looked up on the site of the BBFC what they are required to do (their explanation under spoiler). First thing i find remarkable is that they really have a legal obligation to review a classify movies that are shown in theatres, but also dvd's and anything that can be watched at home. So I guess that's why our bois just can't escape them. I thought at first that they were maybe forced to undergo the process because they were working with the BBC. But appaz they would get reviewed anyway even if you just buy their dvd on their own site as a citizen.
An explanation on why the listing (besides just being hilarious) is hypocritical and leaves me with a sour taste under spoiler tag.
An explanation on why the listing (besides just being hilarious) is hypocritical and leaves me with a sour taste under spoiler tag.
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Dan and Phil's stage show isn't being censored. It's release isn't being hindered. It's been rated and classified, and I don't think a classification system is some kind of anti-liberal agenda. Censorship is bad, but issuing a rating to a film and clarifying what made the film earn the rating allows viewers to make an educated choice about what they choose or choose not to watch. I do the same thing voluntarily every time I check out doesthedogdie.com before I watch something on Netflix. Some people find it very valuable to be able to view potential warnings and content that might be inappropriate for themselves or the company in which they want to watch something. It doesn't make me hypocritical not to want to subject myself to some themes when I'm indulging in casual entertainment. I don't care if it's a reality of life, I don't want to watch an animal die or a movie with a graphic rape scene. I want to know in advance that's going to happen so I can make my own adult, informed decision as to whether I feel like it. Sure, there are some flaws in the system; queer themes shouldn't be rated higher than their straight counterparts, etc. But if I'm going to sit down with my ninety six year old grandmother and watch a movie, I want to know if it's got an explicit sex scene in it.Stakhanov wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:45 pm I looked up on the site of the BBFC what they are required to do (their explanation under spoiler). First thing i find remarkable is that they really have a legal obligation to review a classify movies that are shown in theatres, but also dvd's and anything that can be watched at home. So I guess that's why our bois just can't escape them. I thought at first that they were maybe forced to undergo the process because they were working with the BBC. But appaz they would get reviewed anyway even if you just buy their dvd on their own site as a citizen.
An explanation on why the listing (besides just being hilarious) is hypocritical and leaves me with a sour taste under spoiler tag.
But to stay on topic: I'm unsure why you're extrapolating all of this from Dan and Phil's very clearly not censored, obviously available for worldwide release stage show. The BBFC is not stopping anyone from getting their hands on this show that wants it. Yeah, it's a bit funny and silly to see them list out exact terms that they're deeming as potentially questionable but I admire that level of transparency. I'd rather see a list of phrases I can immediately deem for myself would not bother me than just see a vague 'sexual language' that leaves me not knowing exactly what they're considering sexual.
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The BBFC reviews everything released in the cinema and on DVD in the UK, it’s nothing to do with being released by the BBC, they are totally different organisations doing different things (making tv and film vs reviewing it) they just share the word British in their names and the other words starting with B and C are different. They also do rate anything sexual and queer in the same way they do for heterosexual stuff, btw.
Re: BBFC - at 18 level, virtually anything is allowed without cuts. It's purpose isn't to control, but to inform.
With what constitutes harm? The biggest example is suicide. They've worked with The Samaritans to avoid harming vulnerable people by showing gratuitous details. I personally cannot watch anything with graphic self harm and I'm glad that it's something I don't HAVE to do because you know, BBFC ratings.
Re: Dan, Phil, BBFC - Iconic. Absolutely iconic.
With what constitutes harm? The biggest example is suicide. They've worked with The Samaritans to avoid harming vulnerable people by showing gratuitous details. I personally cannot watch anything with graphic self harm and I'm glad that it's something I don't HAVE to do because you know, BBFC ratings.
Re: Dan, Phil, BBFC - Iconic. Absolutely iconic.
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Demon phannie.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:56 pm This is amazing. Please take it and share your results.
Is anyone surprised
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I got Not Paid Enough Phannie and I agree. Give me the money, Dan and Phil. It's time for you to give back.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:56 pm This is amazing. Please take it and share your results.
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I took that and was a bit annoyed, tbh, I got not really a phannie, so sod my curiosity for what interesting result it might have been. The rest of the results very sound funny, though.
I got Dan, as If I needed to be reminded just how much we relate on loving Philalittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:56 pm This is amazing. Please take it and share your results.
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I got a drama phannie which is probably the furthest from the truth. (Retook with my second choices for the ones I was torn on and got demon phannie, much better!)
I was guessing Phil/and Dan would visit the Lesters this weekend. It’s still possible, but I don’t think Dan would watch Attack on Titan without Phil. That definitely seems like one of their rituals.
That review is hilarious in its details!
I was guessing Phil/and Dan would visit the Lesters this weekend. It’s still possible, but I don’t think Dan would watch Attack on Titan without Phil. That definitely seems like one of their rituals.
That review is hilarious in its details!
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Same! It was scarily accurate. I’ve been here entirely too longglitterintheair wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:01 pmI got Not Paid Enough Phannie and I agree. Give me the money, Dan and Phil. It's time for you to give back.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:56 pm This is amazing. Please take it and share your results.
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I got drama phannie and I'm not here for it lol. As an indecisive person I took it again with some of my alternate answers (does anyone else do this? just me? okay) and got demon phannie, which uh, is quite accurate. I do wish I didn't have to see the beard edits again though.
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lol i got "fake phannie"... i created and posted a moon room layout, went to ii 3 times and have completely devoted my life to those rats......... im hecking offended and need a refundliola wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:08 pmI got Dan, as If I needed to be reminded just how much we relate on loving Philalittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:56 pm This is amazing. Please take it and share your results.
@flarequake K thanks for that info. That the BBC had nothing to do it became clear to me the moment I saw the powers of the BBFC. Before that I thought that 'maybe they were related' in the sense that maybe the BBC voluntarily submitted themselves to industry regulation and labeling. Because that's how it used to work with Hollywood movies (there's some interesting docu's about the history of rating boards and legislation) and that's no doubt how it still works (if not legally then at least in practice) in a lot of countries now. But looking into the UK system and the BBFC i'm thinking regulatory frameworks are probably as varried as what themes and words are(n't) considered offensive in every countryalittledizzy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:06 pm
Dan and Phil's stage show isn't being censored. It's release isn't being hindered.
To be clear I never said Dan and Phil were being censored. My point in the spoiler tag of the post you quote was a general one over the BBFC and what they are legally required to do with any movie or dvd
It's been rated and classified, and I don't think a classification system is some kind of anti-liberal agenda. Censorship is bad, but issuing a rating to a film and clarifying what made the film earn the rating allows viewers to make an educated choice about what they choose or choose not to watch. I do the same thing voluntarily
That's great i voluntarily check IMDB too at my leasure but this is totally irrelevant to what the BBFC does as it is not a voluntary procedure and they can, in fact, censor movies. As it is stated on their site and ohter the other spoiler tag: "If a work is found to contain material which falls foul of UK law, then it will be cut from the work. If the work as a whole is found to be in breach of the law, then it may be denied a certificate and rejected. " If rejected, that means it is not even deemed suitable for home viewing. So this has no comparison with any of us looking up our own information out of choice.
I invite you to read their own 'history' page (https://www.bbfc.co.uk/education-resour ... rdings-act) which sheds some light about how horror movies like Cannibal Holocaust lay at the basis of what first was a voluntary rating scheme within the industry, to a legally required one which uses all kinds of criteria and debatable exemptions. You might support this regulation but I think it's clearly illeberal in that it takes away the freedom of citizens to define their own 'suitable viewing' and gives that power to institution, the BFFC, which uses their own norms, which can be pretty vague and problematic.
every time I check out doesthedogdie.com before I watch something on Netflix. Some people find it very valuable to be able to view potential warnings and content that might be inappropriate for themselves or the company in which they want to watch something. It doesn't make me hypocritical not to want to subject myself to some themes when I'm indulging in casual entertainment. I don't care if it's a reality of life, I don't want to watch an animal die or a movie with a graphic rape scene. I want to know in advance that's going to happen so I can make my own adult, informed decision as to whether I feel like it. Sure, there are some flaws in the system; queer themes shouldn't be rated higher than their straight counterparts, etc. But if I'm going to sit down with my ninety six year old grandmother and watch a movie, I want to know if it's got an explicit sex scene in it.
But to stay on topic: I'm unsure why you're extrapolating all of this from Dan and Phil's very clearly not censored, obviously available for worldwide release stage show.
I'm not sure what you think i'm extrapolating because I never said Dan and Phil were not censored or weren't available?
The BBFC is not stopping anyone from getting their hands on this show that wants it. Yeah, it's a bit funny and silly to see them list out exact terms that they're deeming as potentially questionable but I admire that level of transparency. I'd rather see a list of phrases I can immediately deem for myself would not bother me than just see a vague 'sexual language' that leaves me not knowing exactly what they're considering sexual.
That's fine I'm all for having information out there, what I'm objecting to is that it is a compulsory measure, grounded on subjective criteria that go much further than just criminal acts, and with a reach that is ridiculously broad. It's not only about at what age people can go watch something at movie theaters, it even attempts to regulate what is viewable at home and I think that's quite rich.
Also, I am left to guess who you're talking about Fancybum but I think everybody here knows of the concept of 'rating systems' and has looked at the back of a dvd. Even if someone hadn't, it's not really nice to imply these people 'live under rocks'. I would rate that a poor ad hominem and would rather you listed a meaningful argument, if you feel inclined to contribute.
Finding my own inarticulate prose
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly