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Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:54 pm
by chloek88
Here's the thing y'all...this fandom is obsessed with bedrooms and sleeping in the same bed as the be-all end-all determiner of whether deppy's relationship is romantic or platonic. and i think that obsession leads to some pretty absurd mental gymnastics that seem practically on par with larry nonsense to me, just to justify why they might have separate beds/bedrooms.

context: i have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years now. there is nothing platonic about our relationship and we have a healthy sex life. but, if we moved in together, i would definitely have my own bed to sleep in, and potentially my own room. i'm a light sleeper, he snores, we're both restless, and neither of us are well-rested when we share a bed. furthermore, we're both highly introverted and while we love spending time together, sometimes we both need to be alone, in our own space.

this feels completely normal to me! when i'm unconscious, what does my proximity to my loved one matter?? why should that determine the status of our relationship/closeness/sex-life/anything?!
perhaps it's not strange to me because my parents, married 30+ years, have had separate bedrooms my entire life. they love each other deeply, have had a weekly date night every week for those 30 years, and i know they've had sex throughout the years because i have a biological younger sibling! but again, they like their sleep uninterrupted and prefer their own space. that certainly doesn't undermine their love, sense of romance, or sex life.

that it makes more sense to people that one of deppy's bedrooms would be a set or that they'd book hotel rooms with multiple beds to maintain a platonic illusion rather than just that they might prefer sleeping alone/having their own space --that seems borderline delusional and baffling to me. they're such large men! i'm sure they both take up tons of space! i think it's limited to believe that their relationship is only validly romantic if they sleep together. we already know they spend all their time together and there's so much more persuasive evidence in favor of their relationship being romantic. so to me, their beds mean nothing. (which isn't to say that phil's room definitely isn't a set. I can totally understand wanting to keep his filming space separate from where he sleeps/spends personal time. these are just my two cents that have been rattling around my head for quite a while.)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:55 pm
by sugar
myllakka wrote:It's interesting that Phil's new decorations are generally less personalized--more plants, less things related to his hobbies (which I'd think he would like more). Is this him trying to be professional, or just using things they have lying around to decorate the empty space? Where did the other stuff go, hmmm?
weird it's almost like his actual personal belongings are in the room he actually sleeps in

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:56 pm
by pearshaped34
llion wrote:
DatCog wrote: So he changed his chest of drawers and bedside tables...weird when they're actually a better match for the white/grey colour scheme. The new drawers are definitely smaller.
they do fit the theme, perhaps he still quite liked them and they're in a real bedroom? (shared or not, i don't think this could possibly be where he sleeps)
Or the ones from his old room were too large for his new closet. The new set looks considerably smaller and it still looks cramped in there.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:59 pm
by simmehchan
Well, that was unexpected.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:59 pm
by sugar
very confused. is phil's family's holiday in the bahamas this year or is dan there by himself...

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:00 pm
by saffarinda
the tweet dan just posted oml what are they planning the sneaky lil shits

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:00 pm
by JoeAverage
Okay but: Where are all his jackets gonna be at?!!! The real room or the beard room? Because he had lots of them from what I remember.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:02 pm
by Lucyrg95
that tweet, I'm so confused

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:02 pm
by confusedpanda
simmehchan wrote: Well, that was unexpected.
I... I don't trust this with that last sentence. What the hell is he doing?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:03 pm
by pilotlight
I would have thought a solo vacation in the Bahamas wasn't too weird until he tack that bit on at the end of the tweet. :wtf:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:04 pm
by 000dia000
Definitely not a family holiday/private thing, he otherwise wouldn't have tweeted his location. I'm hoping it will be for some project of some kind. Also, this is one of those tweets that makes me frustrated about them being random like this, I hate this kind of secrecy. What are they doing? What are they trying to do? I can't even complain now, because people will get defensive.

Also, "nothing weird about me being here at all", either an accident he is there (don't know how) or he will reveal soon, why he is.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:05 pm
by llion
Sakura Selfie wrote:I think the room is probably filmed at a weird angle and all squished together in one corner because he probably hadn't finished unpacking, it's probably a forest of boxes and clothes scattered everywhere if the state of his room after touring was anything to go by.
ooo, solid theory.

and good point chloek88, i agree that sharing a bed/room is far from proof of a platonic or romantic relationship. i mostly find it interesting that they're keeping the room situation under wraps now. probably because of the endless speculation tbh.
simmehchan wrote: Well, that was unexpected.
the tone makes me feel like he's teasing us on purpose. whatever's up hope it's a good time for him. (time to get out our magnifying glasses )

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:05 pm
by saffarinda
chloek88 wrote:Here's the thing y'all...this fandom is obsessed with bedrooms and sleeping in the same bed as the be-all end-all determiner of whether deppy's relationship is romantic or platonic. and i think that obsession leads to some pretty absurd mental gymnastics that seem practically on par with larry nonsense to me, just to justify why they might have separate beds/bedrooms.

context: i have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years now. there is nothing platonic about our relationship and we have a healthy sex life. but, if we moved in together, i would definitely have my own bed to sleep in, and potentially my own room. i'm a light sleeper, he snores, we're both restless, and neither of us are well-rested when we share a bed. furthermore, we're both highly introverted and while we love spending time together, sometimes we both need to be alone, in our own space.

this feels completely normal to me! when i'm unconscious, what does my proximity to my loved one matter?? why should that determine the status of our relationship/closeness/sex-life/anything?!
perhaps it's not strange to me because my parents, married 30+ years, have had separate bedrooms my entire life. they love each other deeply, have had a weekly date night every week for those 30 years, and i know they've had sex throughout the years because i have a biological younger sibling! but again, they like their sleep uninterrupted and prefer their own space. that certainly doesn't undermine their love, sense of romance, or sex life.

that it makes more sense to people that one of deppy's bedrooms would be a set or that they'd book hotel rooms with multiple beds to maintain a platonic illusion rather than just that they might prefer sleeping alone/having their own space --that seems borderline delusional and baffling to me. they're such large men! i'm sure they both take up tons of space! i think it's limited to believe that their relationship is only validly romantic if they sleep together. we already know they spend all their time together and there's so much more persuasive evidence in favor of their relationship being romantic. so to me, their beds mean nothing. (which isn't to say that phil's room definitely isn't a set. I can totally understand wanting to keep his filming space separate from where he sleeps/spends personal time. these are just my two cents that have been rattling around my head for quite a while.)
Whilst I completely agree with you, it's more the fact that Phil's room appears so much SMALLER that's confusing me. If they had seperate rooms I'd love it! It's probably healthier than spending 24/7 next to each other. But Phil has moved house only to get a smaller bedroom, with his drawers so close to the bed that he'd barely be able to open them? It just doesn't add up - they moved to gain space, not to lose it!

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:05 pm
by xaephan
chloek88 wrote:
Here's the thing y'all...this fandom is obsessed with bedrooms and sleeping in the same bed as the be-all end-all determiner of whether deppy's relationship is romantic or platonic. and i think that obsession leads to some pretty absurd mental gymnastics that seem practically on par with larry nonsense to me, just to justify why they might have separate beds/bedrooms.

context: i have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years now. there is nothing platonic about our relationship and we have a healthy sex life. but, if we moved in together, i would definitely have my own bed to sleep in, and potentially my own room. i'm a light sleeper, he snores, we're both restless, and neither of us are well-rested when we share a bed. furthermore, we're both highly introverted and while we love spending time together, sometimes we both need to be alone, in our own space.

this feels completely normal to me! when i'm unconscious, what does my proximity to my loved one matter?? why should that determine the status of our relationship/closeness/sex-life/anything?!
perhaps it's not strange to me because my parents, married 30+ years, have had separate bedrooms my entire life. they love each other deeply, have had a weekly date night every week for those 30 years, and i know they've had sex throughout the years because i have a biological younger sibling! but again, they like their sleep uninterrupted and prefer their own space. that certainly doesn't undermine their love, sense of romance, or sex life.

that it makes more sense to people that one of deppy's bedrooms would be a set or that they'd book hotel rooms with multiple beds to maintain a platonic illusion rather than just that they might prefer sleeping alone/having their own space --that seems borderline delusional and baffling to me. they're such large men! i'm sure they both take up tons of space! i think it's limited to believe that their relationship is only validly romantic if they sleep together. we already know they spend all their time together and there's so much more persuasive evidence in favor of their relationship being romantic. so to me, their beds mean nothing. (which isn't to say that phil's room definitely isn't a set. I can totally understand wanting to keep his filming space separate from where he sleeps/spends personal time. these are just my two cents that have been rattling around my head for quite a while.)
I actually really agree with this! I think it makes a lot of sense for them to have separate places they could retreat to. It's just interesting to speculate, and the difference between his old bedroom and his new one is pretty huge in terms of size, so it really adds to the fun little mystery. To me, their moving is a far, far better indicator of their status than the one-or-two-bedroom things, but I'll sneak in some theories while I can.

The Bahamas thing, talk about out of the left field! Now I'm really curious if Dan is there by himself, because I think he and Phil both implied that the Lester family vacation is still in Florida this year. I'll have to double-check (or see if someone on tumblr already checked lol).

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:05 pm
by lost686girl
destination wedding. phils fam is all here anyway lol

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:06 pm
by mildcactus
chloek88 wrote:Here's the thing y'all...this fandom is obsessed with bedrooms and sleeping in the same bed as the be-all end-all determiner of whether deppy's relationship is romantic or platonic. and i think that obsession leads to some pretty absurd mental gymnastics that seem practically on par with larry nonsense to me, just to justify why they might have separate beds/bedrooms.

context: i have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years now. there is nothing platonic about our relationship and we have a healthy sex life. but, if we moved in together, i would definitely have my own bed to sleep in, and potentially my own room. i'm a light sleeper, he snores, we're both restless, and neither of us are well-rested when we share a bed. furthermore, we're both highly introverted and while we love spending time together, sometimes we both need to be alone, in our own space.

this feels completely normal to me! when i'm unconscious, what does my proximity to my loved one matter?? why should that determine the status of our relationship/closeness/sex-life/anything?!
perhaps it's not strange to me because my parents, married 30+ years, have had separate bedrooms my entire life. they love each other deeply, have had a weekly date night every week for those 30 years, and i know they've had sex throughout the years because i have a biological younger sibling! but again, they like their sleep uninterrupted and prefer their own space. that certainly doesn't undermine their love, sense of romance, or sex life.

that it makes more sense to people that one of deppy's bedrooms would be a set or that they'd book hotel rooms with multiple beds to maintain a platonic illusion rather than just that they might prefer sleeping alone/having their own space --that seems borderline delusional and baffling to me. they're such large men! i'm sure they both take up tons of space! i think it's limited to believe that their relationship is only validly romantic if they sleep together. we already know they spend all their time together and there's so much more persuasive evidence in favor of their relationship being romantic. so to me, their beds mean nothing. (which isn't to say that phil's room definitely isn't a set. I can totally understand wanting to keep his filming space separate from where he sleeps/spends personal time. these are just my two cents that have been rattling around my head for quite a while.)
I've been wanting to put something similar into words for a while now, thank you for summing it up perfectly. Being in a long term relationship myself and soon to be cohabiting, as two people who are introverts with differing sleeping patterns and I working from home, we are very much hoping for separate rooms. Separate rooms/beds does not mean no romo!

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:06 pm
by throwaway
Maybe he is there with his girlfriend, and maybe he even lives with her hence not filming in his room anymore! :gg:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:07 pm
by llion
lost686girl wrote:destination wedding. phils fam is all here anyway lol
i mean it is may

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:08 pm
by pearshaped34
When Dan went on holiday to Sri lanka I'm I right in thinking he didn't state where he went until he was already back? And when they went on holiday with Bryony and Wirrow they didn't state where they were going?

I know they announced going to Japan beforehand but still something about Dan freely announcing where his vacationing at the start of the holiday is suspicious af to me. Definitely don't think his there for personal reasons.

Also that tweet is weird and doesn't sound Dan-like right down from the wording to the choice (and amount) of emojis in it. There's more emojis in that tweet than like his last 100 combined.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:08 pm
by uglyamerican
I think the two main priorities / goals for moving was one, peace and quiet; and two, air conditioning. I'm not totally convinced that their new place has that much more storage space - it is a modern apartment, and those generally don't have the biggest closets (or bedrooms, excepting the master suite.) Maybe it has another bedroom that they can use for the stuff (that would be 4 bedrooms?)

Segueing into Phil's bedroom situation discussion, I want to see the video where they debated who gets the biggest / most favorable bedroom (ala tour bus rock/paper/scissors...)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:09 pm
by obliviongrace
mildcactus wrote:
chloek88 wrote:Here's the thing y'all...this fandom is obsessed with bedrooms and sleeping in the same bed as the be-all end-all determiner of whether deppy's relationship is romantic or platonic. and i think that obsession leads to some pretty absurd mental gymnastics that seem practically on par with larry nonsense to me, just to justify why they might have separate beds/bedrooms.

context: i have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years now. there is nothing platonic about our relationship and we have a healthy sex life. but, if we moved in together, i would definitely have my own bed to sleep in, and potentially my own room. i'm a light sleeper, he snores, we're both restless, and neither of us are well-rested when we share a bed. furthermore, we're both highly introverted and while we love spending time together, sometimes we both need to be alone, in our own space.

this feels completely normal to me! when i'm unconscious, what does my proximity to my loved one matter?? why should that determine the status of our relationship/closeness/sex-life/anything?!
perhaps it's not strange to me because my parents, married 30+ years, have had separate bedrooms my entire life. they love each other deeply, have had a weekly date night every week for those 30 years, and i know they've had sex throughout the years because i have a biological younger sibling! but again, they like their sleep uninterrupted and prefer their own space. that certainly doesn't undermine their love, sense of romance, or sex life.

that it makes more sense to people that one of deppy's bedrooms would be a set or that they'd book hotel rooms with multiple beds to maintain a platonic illusion rather than just that they might prefer sleeping alone/having their own space --that seems borderline delusional and baffling to me. they're such large men! i'm sure they both take up tons of space! i think it's limited to believe that their relationship is only validly romantic if they sleep together. we already know they spend all their time together and there's so much more persuasive evidence in favor of their relationship being romantic. so to me, their beds mean nothing. (which isn't to say that phil's room definitely isn't a set. I can totally understand wanting to keep his filming space separate from where he sleeps/spends personal time. these are just my two cents that have been rattling around my head for quite a while.)
I've been wanting to put something similar into words for a while now, thank you for summing it up perfectly. Being in a long term relationship myself and soon to be cohabiting, as two people who are introverts with differing sleeping patterns and I working from home, we are very much hoping for separate rooms. Separate rooms/beds does not mean no romo!
These are also my feelings 100%! I enjoy speculating around possible misleads/cover-ups by DnP, but I certainly don't think bedrooms mean a ton in terms of someone's relationship status.

Dan's tweet....WHAT? I am so confused....and suspicious...

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:12 pm
by JoeAverage
Ik this is random and probably trash talk that is gonna be proven wrong any second now or whatever but...what if Martyn is going to propose to Cornelia on the Bahamas?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:15 pm
by onetruetrash
Dan's tweet got me like

But really though, I didn't see that coming at all. What are those little shits up to now?

chloek88, I get what you're trying to say, but the main point is that the room seems really small and that makes no sense at all since one of their main reasons for moving was for more space.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:16 pm
by Philena
Is he referencing the Fyre Fest thing?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:19 pm
by AmazingOCD
Does anyone think that the Lester's could just be on holiday in the Bahamas instead? (change of location?)
How long have they been going to Florida as a family holiday?

Dan's tweet is fishy though, it's out of the ordinary for him to use THAT many emojis....