Dan and Phil Part 105: Gay 🧡

[Artdefines06]

My kid had a meltdown over American girl dolls right as I was going to buy and I chose to be a good parent and it cost me lol. In the hour it took to calm her down ever reasonably priced seat in the tiny seattle theater was sold out and I'm now an official platinum ticket holder, whatever that means. That was $150 more than I wanted to spend but it was all that was left. What tf do I say to them? can I use my meet and greet time to teach them how to install cc onto the sims?

[gnostic]

I see the rumours of phandom's decline over the years have been greatly exaggerated

[Artdefines06]

I see the rumours of phandom's decline over the years have been greatly exaggerated

[Catallena]

Tour Trailer!

idk where the hell all these people are coming from is their kpop phase over or something what happened?

My priority was getting Gold VIP for Antwerp and I did! Had about 3 mini heart attacks during the process (when my wifi signal abandoned me and I had to switch to my phone, when seat selection would not work so I had to let Ticketmaster pick, and when I looked at the amount of money I was forking over) but I'm so excited about getting to see the first show.

I also snagged regular admission tickets for London on the 25th and Amsterdam. Ticketing for London was a bloodbath, I got through the queue pretty fast but all Gold VIPs were already gone and Silver were going quick too.

[mez29]

Not totally serious suggestion: I guess now the rest of the phandom are adults, they can all use their own money to buy tickets as soon as they're released instead of the tatinof days when they had to spend a few hours trying to convince their mums while the rest of us got to work on buying them before the rush.

I haven't bothered buying them for me and my partner yet – I don't think WAD ever sold out at our local venue, and we waited several months before getting the tickets for that one iirc, so we'll get them in September or something I guess.

[Levitating]

can I use my meet and greet time to teach them how to install cc onto the sims?

yes please

It does feel strange to see people getting annoyed at the fact that DnP are not travelling to their country, too. I hope these are new phannies aka teens and below who do not have a sense of distinction between idols and a business

Glad to hear shows are selling out - although I wonder if it's hardcore fans getting M&G rather than your average fan filling up the theatre with cheaper tickets?

I got my WAD ticket a few days before , half price because of a discount. I'd do the same for this one, once I see more reviews about how it is!

The aesthetic of the trailer is nice but it feels like it's missing something. Perhaps more editing? It cuts to them talking with no cool shot or jazzy music effect. Dunno. I'm not an expert but feel ominous almost ahah rather than something that wants to make you excited?

Also, I love them both, but they're acting skills truly makes me see a bit (partially) the reasons why YT could have not taken DINOK seriously - in terms of acting skills at least!

[tinnie]

It does feel strange to see people getting annoyed at the fact that DnP are not travelling to their country, too. I hope these are new phannies aka teens and below who do not have a sense of distinction between idols and a business

I've been seeing this a lot lately and it makes me wonder if these people are fans of anything/anyone else that goes on tours. Because sadly, all people go to mostly the same places. It sucks to live in a place they don't even come near, but it's not Dan and Phil's personal vendetta against certain countries. Doing dozens of shows in the US must be so much easier and more profitable than going to Africa or Asia. Especially when having to bring their entire set and props with them. They may enjoy doing this but not to the point of completely losing money on it.

[Panda728]

My kid had a meltdown over American girl dolls right as I was going to buy and I chose to be a good parent and it cost me lol. In the hour it took to calm her down ever reasonably priced seat in the tiny seattle theater was sold out and I'm now an official platinum ticket holder, whatever that means. That was $150 more than I wanted to spend but it was all that was left. What tf do I say to them? can I use my meet and greet time to teach them how to install cc onto the sims?

Are you certain that your ticket includes a meet and greet? I'd recommend double checking because, for the Atlanta show at least, I don't think any of the platinum tickets were VIP, they were just regular seats that Ticketmaster had decided would be in-demand and increased the price on. Then again, most of the VIP tickets went so fast that I could be wrong and just didn't notice some were platinum

[howadorableright]

It does feel strange to see people getting annoyed at the fact that DnP are not travelling to their country, too. I hope these are new phannies aka teens and below who do not have a sense of distinction between idols and a business

I've been seeing this a lot lately and it makes me wonder if these people are fans of anything/anyone else that goes on tours. Because sadly, all people go to mostly the same places. It sucks to live in a place they don't even come near, but it's not Dan and Phil's personal vendetta against certain countries. Doing dozens of shows in the US must be so much easier and more profitable than going to Africa or Asia. Especially when having to bring their entire set and props with them. They may enjoy doing this but not to the point of completely losing money on it.

my thoughts exactly, I’m sure they were just basing it on viewer analytics and availability etc etc

I’ve seen sooo many tweets that seem like they’re genuinely trying to cancel dnp and blocking people that disagree with them, and I do recognize I’m privileged enough to get to see them and would be upset but I keep seeing people say stuff like “I can’t believe they haven’t addressed this they need to make a statement”

[Susanisnotafish]

Happy ticket day! It was so stressful and the website kept crashing, but I managed to get a silver ticket like I wanted! Now I can finally relax and actually look forward to the tour :')

I'm surprised how quickly tickets are selling when they've only done a couple vague promos on social media and nothing else! Some of the UK shows are already sold out?!

I’m really surprised they didn’t do a livestream this week explaining and promoting the tour. Glad for them that tix and VIP are selling so well! That means they might tour again in a couple years. Maybe Dan will do another solo tour and then they’ll do another joint tour. I hope they never burn out.

P.S. I was hoping to get Gold, but I ended up getting silver. I suppose it’s OK, since I met them before, and when I met Dan at WAD it was a really wonderful memory. I did want to see Phil’s blond hair IRL, though. I am a big Phlond fan! See anyone in Chicago?

[tinnie]

my thoughts exactly, I’m sure they were just basing it on viewer analytics and availability etc etc

I’ve seen sooo many tweets that seem like they’re genuinely trying to cancel dnp and blocking people that disagree with them, and I do recognize I’m privileged enough to get to see them and would be upset but I keep seeing people say stuff like “I can’t believe they haven’t addressed this they need to make a statement”

Well that's the thing though. Being able to see them is a privilege and not a right. It sucks that not all of us have the same opportunities but that's true for literally everything in life. Anytime anything interesting is happening, I know it won't be coming to my country. And maybe it'll come to a neighboring country that requires 5+ hours of travel for me if I want to go. But I understand why that is.

I think they underestimated some places. I saw that in Warsaw it's the same venue used for WAD (I can't find any info/photos from WAD there so did it even happen?) but not the same one they used for TATINOF and II so probably smaller. Roughly 900 seats and now 13 hours after tickets went on sale there I see a single seat left.

[Catallena]

So cute Last time Phil did an official meet & greet was during Vidcon London in February of 2020.

I feel for Asian, Mexican, and South American phannies, it sucks being left out, especially if you can't travel for money or visa reasons. Last time D&P were overconfident about securing shows there and listed them as TBA but those never ended up happening. Then in 2020 they were confirmed to appear at Vidcon Mexico (which was 100% them trying to make up for it because Dan did not go to Vidcon London) but the plague broke out. It's obvious that this time they're being a lot more careful, but I do really believe they're once again trying to make something happen. That's why those RSVP buttons are there on the website, to be able to show countries that there is a demand. A full on tour in some parts of the world might not be possible, but one or two (maybe even stripped down) shows in a country easy to travel to for people could be something to aim for?

[pastelspectre]

I managed to get silver VIP tickets for the Seattle show!! I’m going with my boyfriend and I’m super excited (I’ve gotten him into Dan and Phil lol) and as much as I wanted to spring for gold VIP, I just couldn’t justify spending that much. I was stressing the whole time trying to get the tickets

I’m just super excited, I’ve been watching them for about 12 years now and now I can finally see them in person!!

I also didn’t realize how heated people get on Twitter about the tour? I stopped using Twitter ages ago.

[Artdefines06]

My kid had a meltdown over American girl dolls right as I was going to buy and I chose to be a good parent and it cost me lol. In the hour it took to calm her down ever reasonably priced seat in the tiny seattle theater was sold out and I'm now an official platinum ticket holder, whatever that means. That was $150 more than I wanted to spend but it was all that was left. What tf do I say to them? can I use my meet and greet time to teach them how to install cc onto the sims?

Are you certain that your ticket includes a meet and greet? I'd recommend double checking because, for the Atlanta show at least, I don't think any of the platinum tickets were VIP, they were just regular seats that Ticketmaster had decided would be in-demand and increased the price on. Then again, most of the VIP tickets went so fast that I could be wrong and just didn't notice some were platinum

its entirely possible >.< I'd be ok with that though, i dont really feel the need to meet them and I got a seat in the section I want so its all good. The few seats left now are like 300-500 so yea I guess its just ticketmaster extortion basically.

[Susanisnotafish]

Yeah, I had a platinum ticket for WAD and showed up for the m & g and it turned out to not include that or the pre-show. I was so disappointed. But I’m glad you’re happy about it. At least you know not to show up early!

[Artdefines06]

Yeah, I had a platinum ticket for WAD and showed up for the m & g and it turned out to not include that or the pre-show. I was so disappointed. But I’m glad you’re happy about it. At least you know not to show up early!

I am not so mad for myself but i wonder who gets the profit from the artificial price increase? Is it DnP? The venue? Ticketmaster? the "remaining" tickets now range from $300-$1947 for front row which just seems crazy. this isnt like beyonce or anything ya know. I feel like Dan and Phil would be mad about it. Anyone know how to contact the tour organizers or maybe IRL or someone? I'm having a hard time contacting the theater.

[dontpanic]

I think they underestimated some places. I saw that in Warsaw it's the same venue used for WAD (I can't find any info/photos from WAD there so did it even happen?) but not the same one they used for TATINOF and II so probably smaller. Roughly 900 seats and now 13 hours after tickets went on sale there I see a single seat left.

I'll be real, I underestimated them too. I for sure thought they'd struggle filling seats. even the LA show, which is in a fairly large venue, is filled up at least half with all the most expensive seats taken. I went to that theater years ago to see Tig Notaro and she had about the same number of seats filled.


edit: maybe with all these ticket sales they can hire a builder who isn't trying to rip them off

[Susanisnotafish]

I think they underestimated some places. I saw that in Warsaw it's the same venue used for WAD (I can't find any info/photos from WAD there so did it even happen?) but not the same one they used for TATINOF and II so probably smaller. Roughly 900 seats and now 13 hours after tickets went on sale there I see a single seat left.

I'll be real, I underestimated them too. I for sure thought they'd struggle filling seats. even the LA show, which is in a fairly large venue, is filled up at least half with all the most expensive seats taken. I went to that theater years ago to see Tig Notaro and she had about the same number of seats filled.


edit: maybe with all these ticket sales they can hire a builder who isn't trying to rip them off

I wonder how much the set and production will cost for the show, though. I think Dan was a little truthful when he said during WAD that he spent too much on his set and that he needed people to buy merch. Hopefully, this joint tour will have higher sales, but also maybe better budgeting? I hope the set and production are still high quality though.

Also, just out of curiosity, what year did you see Tig? I love her!

[somelikeitpink]

I got tickets for London and New York! (It’s a coincidence that I’m literally in NY that week and my friend that I’m meeting up with wanted to see them too). But my god that felt like a war. Did anyone manage to get gold or silver for NY? It wasn’t even shown as an option for me.

I am so glad to see excitement here because I’m not gonna lie… Twitter is really starting to get to me.
I understand that people are disappointed who don’t get to see them but.. I agree with the take here that it’s a privilege to get to go.. and not really a requirement for dip and pip to make sure everyone can go. I understand it must suck that they’re leaving out LATAM, Asia and Africa but… I’m assuming that the tour locations are very much orientated by the viewer counts they see in their analysis? As loud as for example the Argentinian fans are… I’d assume it’s a huge decision to plan the tour stops and maybe the costs of bringing the show there vs how likely it was to sell enough tickets to even break even wasn’t given?

Anyway, can I have a hot take that I don't dare to say on any other platform? I see way too many people talk about how they weren't able to go to the tour (especially VIP) because of the short notice and not having money saved up. But I feel like if you don't have spare 100-200€ in savings, maybe going to a tour, especially VIP, isn't the right financial decision? Like are you going to go hungry because instead of having savings for emergencies you spent it on a meet and greet with youtubers? I don't want to be all "poor people shouldn't treat themselves" but I feel anxious for the people who are writing these things because not having savings would stress me out too much.

I mean.. I don’t necessarily have a lot of savings but I do earn enough to be able to splurge a bit like this every now and again.
I do also wonder.. like how long would have been long enough then? How much could change for people if they announced it maybe like two weeks earlier? I’m assuming that wouldn’t have made a lot of difference financially for people? And nobody announces something like that months in advance…

It’s a bit of a bummer that there’s so much negativity out there already, but it’s actually wonderful to see for them that they’re still high enough in demand that stuff sells out so quickly. Must be a big relief for them

[phancon]

I'm glad so many people got the tickets they wanted. I made the fatal error of way underestimating dnp I was after a Manchester ticket and figured surely I'd be ok to grab them an hour late, I only wanted general admission after all. Nope lol. Alll sold out by the time I went searching. I suppose I should have seen that coming, Manchester is both a central location in the UK and holds a lot of dnp lore. Maybe I'll find a resale ticket later to the date, idk. Or maybe I'll get lucky and they'll release another date.

I'm also kinda surprised by all the negativity on twitter. I mean, a lot of it is just... normal tour things tbh. And that's not a good thing! It sucks that so many people will miss out. I'm lucky enough to have been to a couple of concerts over the last few years and most the complaints I'm seeing in the phandom is stuff I've seen other artists do. Admittedly I'm talking about bands and artists, not influencers/yters/comedians, but it's very common I think for 'world' tours to just be the US/Canada and Europe centric (often Australia doesn't even get a look in). And so many artists announce the tour like 2 days before tickets go on sale. idk I'm no expert on the business side of things, but I think the fact that this is so common means that straying away from this trend is very difficult.

[tinnie]

I'm also glad it's more calm and positive here. Hence why I like going here over twitter. There I just look and don't dare to interact. I saw there was some drama with a 15 year old fan yesterday who wasn't able to get tickets and kept attacking those people who did get them, threatening them and telling them to kill themselves. Thankfully their account seemed to get suspended and everyone was blocking them.

I mean.. I don’t necessarily have a lot of savings but I do earn enough to be able to splurge a bit like this every now and again.
I do also wonder.. like how long would have been long enough then? How much could change for people if they announced it maybe like two weeks earlier? I’m assuming that wouldn’t have made a lot of difference financially for people? And nobody announces something like that months in advance…

Well I've seen several people say that they'll get paid in a few days and then they could get the tickets but they don't have the money on Friday. Which is what made me wonder whether these people have literally zero savings and whether it's wise to then spend their money on this and not put it into savings for emergencies. It's okay to have to budget around it, especially with summer and possible other trips or expenses. I'm someone who never goes anywhere so I'm telling myself it's okay to put money towards this when I've been a fan for 10 years.

[gnostic]

Not totally serious suggestion: I guess now the rest of the phandom are adults, they can all use their own money to buy tickets as soon as they're released instead of the tatinof days when they had to spend a few hours trying to convince their mums while the rest of us got to work on buying them before the rush.

I haven't bothered buying them for me and my partner yet – I don't think WAD ever sold out at our local venue, and we waited several months before getting the tickets for that one iirc, so we'll get them in September or something I guess.

I'm sorry but you saying that while your forum tag is "procrastinator" is freaking hilarious

[000dia000]

I managed to snag two gen tickets in Dublin. Unfortunately, I have to wait until January

[JLynne]

Does it strike anyone else as very odd that we haven't gotten a video since the tour announcement? I thought for sure they'd upload something a day or two before tickets went on sale to y'know, explain what the show actually is aside from the vagaries in the trailer before people decide whether they want to pay for it.

Obviously a ton of people HAVE bought tickets without knowing anything about what they're buying, but it feels like a really strange marketing tactic to be silent on your main platform right after announcing a world tour

[momentojabali]

Does it strike anyone else as very odd that we haven't gotten a video since the tour announcement? I thought for sure they'd upload something a day or two before tickets went on sale to y'know, explain what the show actually is aside from the vagaries in the trailer before people decide whether they want to pay for it.

I kinda got the idea that they might have done it as a little experiment to see how many people would buy tickets knowing almost absolutely nothing about the show. I did find it odd last week that they didn't post a trailer or anything but I also have no idea how these things work.