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Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:01 am
by Jeweul
felucca wrote:Pretend I uploaded this 8 hours ago, before my editing software crashed. the sexual tension was too much for it




Thumbnail's the best part tbqfh.
What a time to be alive! :tongue:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:27 am
by lilMango
[offtopic]Guys, I think I recruited another member... a lost soul from The Site That Shall Not Be Named. I always feel so proud of myself for doing that. Doing the Lord's work! :lol: [/offtopic]

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:31 am
by majitzu
lilMango wrote:[offtopic]Guys, I think I recruited another member... a lost soul from The Site That Shall Not Be Named. I always feel so proud of myself for doing that. Doing the Lord's work! :lol: [/offtopic]


I don't know if i need to pm them, cause maybe someone has done that early. So i just watch them comment and though "yeah, someone must send them pm already" :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:38 am
by karma_yeah
[offtopic]Sort of[/offtopic]
jhamba wrote:
Anonymousse wrote:If nobody makes it I s2g I'm making one myself.
do it
Thank you for making me laugh to the point of tears. I had a really long crap day at work and came home to an argumentative grumpy sick teen.

Bless you.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:14 am
by majitzu
New favourite video


No, but seriously this video

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:18 am
by quietcrickets
felucca wrote:Pretend I uploaded this 8 hours ago, before my editing software crashed.
Truly amazing, felucca this is a work of art!!

Loved the new videos from Dan! It's all been said already, but I loved that we got both a DINOF video for the sketches and humor, and a DINI video for the recommendations and rants. (With the bonus of us getting multiple videos!!) He also was convincing... I'm genuinely looking forward to watching some of his anime recommendations. #spon
Slighlty off-topic, I recently watched Ellen Page's documentary Gaycation (which, for anyone unfamiliar, is a show in which she and her friend travel to a few countries around the world and explore LGBT issues in those countries). Dan & Phil would never make a show like this... although, lbr, I'd watch the hell out of it if they did. :lol: But the reason I bring the show up is that Ellen Page talks briefly about coming out, and how it impacted her creativity as an actress, her ability to engage in more projects that interest her, and her overall happiness. I don't think that Dan would ever want to make an official "coming out video" or use his videos as a platform for LGBT activism. But I do think that the more open he is about this part of himself, the more his videos will flourish creatively. I think oqua said it best, like, 20 pages ago that the new videos felt like Dan "being" out as bisexual (or experiencing attraction to men), rather than "a coming out". There's been a lot of discussion in the past about Dan's "persona." Taking the risk of being a little more authentically himself, and making a joke involving his sexuality... really paid off. The Haru pillow scene was amazing & funny, in a way that his 100th joke about being a meme isn't to me. I really hope that we see more videos from Dan like this. (Haha, now that I've said that, the next DINOF video we get will definitely be ISG 8 in June. )

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:23 am
by rizzo
felucca wrote:Pretend I uploaded this 8 hours ago, before my editing software crashed. the sexual tension was too much for it
Thumbnail's the best part tbqfh.
omg felucca this is stunning. truly a masterpiece. thank you. :clapping:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:23 am
by karma_yeah
ghost wrote:PewDiePie mentioned D&P again. 4:25
"I ship them harder than Dan and Phil. Just kidding, that's impossible. I'm just joking by the way. No I'm not."
I take this as confirmation that Pews is 100% phan af.

Semi-seriously, he's so wildly popular that "support" from him, (however humorous - "jk, no I'm not", can do nothing but provide support for them. I've not been a Pewds fan (lbr,I barely have enough time in my life for this forum ffs) but kudos to him.
And on the topic of the the bigotry/repression/oppression/hatred members of the LBGTQ community have faced for centuries: I long for the day that we can accept people for what's in their heart, not who they love (or the color of their skin, etc.). This world is a scary place -- there are countries with death penalties for non-straight relationships. But even if someone doesn't face death or physical retribution, there can still be the risk of loss of friends/family. One of my students has been disowned by her family because of her sexual orientation. She struggles financially to get through college but there's also a deep hurt in her that is hard to describe. She's essentially an orphan, has lost her mother and her father, who just happen to live in the same town. It's heartbreaking. It's a road that that the majority of people don't ever have to walk. Things are evolving and I've seen a lot of progress over the past few decades, but we aren't there yet. Please be gentle with each other and respect people who put themselves out there, as well as those who choose not to.

On a side note, living in the good old conservative South in the USA, I have a co-worker who is gay and an atheist, and he says where we live it's easier to come out as gay than as an atheist. Sadly, that is true.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:48 am
by karma_yeah
fancybum wrote: This is random, but I really don't want him to be too self-deprecating about the video tomorrow in his liveshow. He tends to do that and I think especially since it's #spon he'll want to be apologetic or something, but I hope he fights the urge heh. I don't give any shits about anime and I enjoyed both videos because his passion for it came through and made it enjoyable. I want to see him be proud and confident instead
This!

And personally, I think it would be kinda funny if he just goes back to ing the

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:55 am
by majitzu
I know some of you haven't watch this, and I think everyone needs to enjoy fetus Dan being a pro on DDR
he was 18 years :3


Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:59 am
by sweetmm
Guys I tried to watch DINOF & DINI but the topic is just too foreign to me and it just flew over my head :lol: Phil's AD on the subject was easier for me to digest but I do get that Dan was more detailed on the topic hence those who understand the world will enjoy them. Love those role playing though especially

Today's animal kingdom satire is

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:28 am
by greatnessflicker
majitzu wrote:I know some of you haven't watch this, and I think everyone needs to enjoy fetus Dan being a pro on DDR
he was 18 years :3
I like how it isn't until 36 seconds into the video that the annotation appears to disclaim an issue that is present from the beginning of the video. [DAN] was still learning the whole youtube thing. That, or he just genuinely anticipated that any viewers who doubted the veracity of the video would watch the whole thing before commenting. Bless him.

I also enjoy how Dan's kept his interest in DDR all these years. I haven't played since I was 12, though I did play "Keep on Movin" enough for this entire video to be too familiar.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:49 am
by pixlexia
I'm sure everyone's aware of this already, but my exposure to phandom/fan discussion of is pretty much limited to this forum and like maybe 2 tumblr blogs, so I'm still caught by surprise on a lot of things.

Like the fact I'm watching so much shit go down on tumblr right now, all these people are getting super upset at the "sudden" notion of Dan being bi(or not straight.) Like, there's literal battles and name calling happening and "just because a guy is attracted to other guys doesn't mean he isn't straight" and a lot of logic where, it's like, I get where you're coming from and I understand the points you're trying to make, but everyone is going at it so viciously that everything is just coming off really offensive?

Idk, this is a pointless post, but it really makes me appreciate you guys at this forum more, lol.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:03 am
by jhamba
pixlexia wrote:I'm sure everyone's aware of this already, but my exposure to phandom/fan discussion of is pretty much limited to this forum and like maybe 2 tumblr blogs, so I'm still caught by surprise on a lot of things.

Like the fact I'm watching so much shit go down on tumblr right now, all these people are getting super upset at the "sudden" notion of Dan being bi(or not straight.) Like, there's literal battles and name calling happening and "just because a guy is attracted to other guys doesn't mean he isn't straight" and a lot of logic where, it's like, I get where you're coming from and I understand the points you're trying to make, but everyone is going at it so viciously that everything is just coming off really offensive?

Idk, this is a pointless post, but it really makes me appreciate you guys at this forum more, lol.
haha, we just shifted everything to the "sociopolitical thread" (I love that thread, so thanks a lot, akui ).
phamnotof wrote:what I'm worried about most is that the chat will be flooded with comments about his sexuality and nothing else, honestly. like idk how he'd react, laugh it off? default to old defense mechanisms? be just really uncomfortable? the video was great in its entirety, imo, so i hope people tell him. this is what a lot of us wanna see the most
lol, it's not 2012 anymore. He'll either laugh it off or pretend he has no idea what you're talking about. He knows how to handle his sexuality in the public eye now. And, he knows exactly what he's doing when he makes videos. It's not like he doesn't know he's going to get multiple messages about his sexuality in this liveshow. He knows what he's doing, and he knows how to deal with it

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:13 am
by Violet Witch
pixlexia wrote:I'm sure everyone's aware of this already, but my exposure to phandom/fan discussion of is pretty much limited to this forum and like maybe 2 tumblr blogs, so I'm still caught by surprise on a lot of things.

Like the fact I'm watching so much shit go down on tumblr right now, all these people are getting super upset at the "sudden" notion of Dan being bi(or not straight.) Like, there's literal battles and name calling happening and "just because a guy is attracted to other guys doesn't mean he isn't straight" and a lot of logic where, it's like, I get where you're coming from and I understand the points you're trying to make, but everyone is going at it so viciously that everything is just coming off really offensive?

Idk, this is a pointless post, but it really makes me appreciate you guys at this forum more, lol.
I've noticed this too on tumblr, and it's so tragic. D+P are 2 guys in their twenties, they don't need to be "protected" by a bunch of teenagers with a blog. I'm sure Dan knows exactly what he means when he speaks about his attraction to the male gender.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:23 am
by greatnessflicker
I'm only seeing the drama from a cursory angle (people I follow have reblogged posts trying to get the fandom to calm down), but your observations are interesting, pixlexia, as I've only seen people hating on the bi label because they are under the impression he is exclusively gay (as opposed to your experience, which seems to highlight those who think bi does not apply to him because he is straight).

It is all too much for me, someone who usually finds in-depth discussions about sexuality and labels very interesting. Besides the fact that for whatever intentional or non-intentional "motive" Dan is normalizing expressions of same-sex attraction, I lit-ruh-lee don't care anymore.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:28 am
by pixlexia
jhamba wrote:
pixlexia wrote:I'm sure everyone's aware of this already, but my exposure to phandom/fan discussion of is pretty much limited to this forum and like maybe 2 tumblr blogs, so I'm still caught by surprise on a lot of things.

Like the fact I'm watching so much shit go down on tumblr right now, all these people are getting super upset at the "sudden" notion of Dan being bi(or not straight.) Like, there's literal battles and name calling happening and "just because a guy is attracted to other guys doesn't mean he isn't straight" and a lot of logic where, it's like, I get where you're coming from and I understand the points you're trying to make, but everyone is going at it so viciously that everything is just coming off really offensive?

Idk, this is a pointless post, but it really makes me appreciate you guys at this forum more, lol.
haha, we just shifted everything to the "sociopolitical thread" (I love that thread, so thanks a lot, akui ).
Oh, I've been reading that one too, dw! I'm actually all for the discussion on this topic! It's just that, in comparison, people here have actual arguments and discussions and points to make that are based off various personal experiences and worldly knowledge, rather than seemingly pulling out these passionate opinions out of nowhere that are A) close minded af, B) have next to no backing to them, and C) aren't nearly as aware of D&P history. (I think C plays a big part, actually. I'm a lot more compelled to listen if you're aware of the literal dozens of attraction examples from the past and not just this singular vid.)

Idk, seemingly people here for the most part listen to the points being made rather than going into complete critical-shut-down-mode like "how dare you try to even try to have thoughts about things." I just felt super surprised going into tumblr and seeing people having meltdowns about it, because like I said, the only real discussions I see are the ones hosted here.

(Except I guess it's ironic that I think this considering that the other thread did get a mod warning, lol)
greatnessflicker wrote:I'm only seeing the drama from a cursory angle (people I follow have reblogged posts trying to get the fandom to calm down), but your observations are interesting, pixlexia, as I've only seen people hating on the bi label because they are under the impression he is exclusively gay (as opposed to your experience, which seems to highlight those who think bi does not apply to him because he is straight).
Oooh, interesting. To be fair, I was trying to search for something by using specific keywords, so I'm sure that influenced what arguments were getting brought up on my end. Either way, people are sort of losing their chill, and as ambiguous as I try to be with my opinions on things, I'd be lying if I said I didn't find it at least a little bit entertaining. (I'm shameful, honestly.)

Also, I do feel a bit sorry for the people who have no interest in any of this sexuality discussion. It gets brought up pretty much all the time, and if you aren't the least bit interested it must just sound overdone and boring as hell. Simultaneously, I'm with all the other people interested for relatability/self-identification/just general analytical reasons, but you guys have my sympathy.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:32 am
by akui
I'm curious to see whether Dan will still do a liveshow today if he knew the shitstorm going on in the phandom right now. (Which i am pretty sure he awares)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:39 am
by majitzu
akui wrote:I'm curious to see whether Dan will still do a liveshow today if he knew the shitstorm going on in the phandom right now. (Which i am pretty sure he awares)
Of course he will do. If he don't want to answer some problematic question he can do what they always do. Ignore it

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:04 am
by Stakhanov
Felucca your montages are always golden. Not an easy vid to watch on a packed commuter train thoug.
There's supposed to be a (subtle) difference between watching deepee vids and gay porn but right now that's not really coming across :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:04 am
by trashqueen
i mostly avoid the tumblr phandom like the plague but i'm interested to see what the hell is going on there, last i checked (when the vid came out) all i saw was people being happy about him feeling comfortable enough w his sexuality (whatever it is) to express it on a main channel video, would you mind linking me to some blogs and/or posts about it?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:15 am
by akui

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:17 am
by jhamba

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:31 am
by swofro
majitzu wrote:I know some of you haven't watch this, and I think everyone needs to enjoy fetus Dan being a pro on DDR
he was 18 years :3

I probably have watch this at least a gazillion time. I don't know why, but fetus Dan being pro on DDR makes me happy. And the fact that he admits (somewhere, I'm pretty sure I'm not delusional) that he cannot play as good as before makes me appreciate this video more. :D

Re: Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:34 am
by blueapple_x