I can take anything Dan reblogs on tumblr seriously, and I think you are reaching a bit but you do you
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:14 pm
by corn flakes
bluewho I don't think regarding phan they will try to drop hints with us, they have clear line between private and public life, a relatioship is something that they wouldn't share and if they did it will be minimalistic but clear enough.
The internet sexualises everything so kink as word doesn't seem relevant, the rest of the line seems pretty relatable, everyone feels good when friends listen and appreciate you. I agree that they are gigant trolls but in this case it's more one of those generic phrases that the majority of people would relate to.
Question: when are the teen awards? does deppy have to be there? do we have any new info regarding that?
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:20 pm
by majitzu
corn flakes wrote:bluewho I don't think regarding phan they will try to drop hints with us, they have clear line between private and public life, a relatioship is something that they wouldn't share and if they did it will be minimalistic but clear enough.
The internet sexualises everything so kink as word doesn't seem relevant, the rest of the line seems pretty relatable, everyone feels good when friends listen and appreciate you. I agree that they are gigant trolls but in this case it's more one of those generic phrases that the majority of people would relate to.
Question: when are the teen awards? does deppy have to be there? do we have any new info regarding that?
credits missemma
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:25 pm
by DryCereal
Don't know if they're presenting at the Teen Awards on Sunday, (not heard any announcement either way!) but they're definitely nominated (together, hee) for Best British Vlogger, so not being there would be rude.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:29 pm
by fancybum
And we should be getting a sims this week too, right? They're way overdue for a non-tat video, damn. Maybe they can be a bit more reckless with Dil now since he no longer needs to stay on brand and consistent for tatinof. Set him on fire for some lols, is that so much to ask?
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:35 pm
by human
bluewho wrote:
eevee wrote:I agree with bluewho that Dan knew what he was doing when he reblogged it. Was he dropping a hint or just letting go of all fucks? we may never know. But he's not an idiot. He knows that we analyze everything!
Basically this is what I think. The actual post reads: "kink: when ur friends make u feel valid and like u have importance and listen to u and care about u".
There's no way Dan read something like that - reblogged a post saying affection from his friends is his kink - without knowing people would read it as about Phil.
If he knew people would read it as about Phil, and he reblogged it anyway, he is fuelling phan.
But it says "friend" lol if anything it's pretty antiphan, I think. It's sweet though, I think he reblogged it purely because he has friends in his life who made him feel like that and was being soppy. And I hugely enjoy soppy Dan
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:57 pm
by shoe
I think bluewho is over-analysing here. I'm not the most tumblry of people by any means, but I hang out there a bit, and I immediately recognised the post as part of the "kink:" meme. Probably Dan did realise, when adding it to his queue, that it would be over-analysed by the non-tumblr portion of his audience, but I don't think that was his intention when re-blogging. To me it is a post about insecurity, and valuing re-assurance so highly that it is more important to you than sex.
(in my understanding the "kink:" meme can also be used to self-depricatingly imply that you do not have much of a sex life, or much hope of having sex, but I'm not sure about that, can anybody else verify?)
(and maybe it is a hint to calm down with the daddy kink)
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:12 pm
by swofro
Kinda offtopic now since I am so late at attempting to post something but Phil's liveshow is lovely
I miss his liveshow since he had been starving me by making that tatinof twitter party last week.
Anyway, I am excited for future contents; dil, spooky week and undertale week! Agree with fancybum, I want to see Dil getting in an accident of sorts and Deppy panicking about it but he survives at the end. Lol. I don't think I am ready to see him die yet. Maybe they should do a Tabitha episode, explore her personalities or something.
I kinda don't want them to move out (either together or separate) for sentimental reason but damn, I am intrigued in what kind of house they will buy.
Bluewho, I am sorry I don't feel what you feel about that tumblr reblog (I feel like it is a meme/joke when I read it) but I find your post to be interesting to read, great analysis
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:14 pm
by alittledizzy
Phil livestream timestamps!
:57 - There's a man in a room watching Phil. Mr. Burns is watching Phil on a wall of screens. In the Pentagon. In a spaceship.
2:01 - Bryony mention! And watching tv under a blanket.
5:20 - Refers to heaven (or where someone would normally insert a heaven reference) as a "space cloud."
7:53 - Main documentary chat took five hours and was basically just a long q&a.
8:37 - Broke the fringe check mirror, cut his hand trying to pick it up. They analyzed the scene in slow motion to figure out what happened.
10:16 - He can't remember why they went with him for the high note at the end of The Internet is Here.
13:20 - Intimidated by 300 people looking at him during the SUTC livestream.
14:01 - Phil is rubbish at rock paper scissors.
16:27 - He had a duck and watermelon salad.
16:38 - Hello, Internet impression. "Seven years of Hello Internet. Seven Second Challenge. Seven seconds on the car. Things are coming in sevens." You forgot 'seven year anniversary with the boyfriend.'
18:24 - Favorite game(s) of all time: Final Fantasy 7/8, Silent Hill. Board game: Camel Up, Tokaido, Carcassonne.
18:55 - Promoting Matt Edmondson's game, so he's still in touch with radio people (at least professionally), good. He and Dan got "very competitive" playing it.
22:30 - He sounds very northern when he says "the talk."
23:15 American Horror Story thoughts. "My friend Adam" - I also like that he's still in touch with Adam.
24:03 - Watched Yuri on Ice, "kind of into it?" - overdone the sports anime.
24:29 - "Freaking loved" Stranger Things. "Me and Dan watched it in about two days, but it was a glorious two days."
27:04 - Went to see Motown Musical with his parents for his mum's birthday. Recommends it, but Book of Mormon first.
28:01 - Danger Men At Work
30:51 - His eyes have gotten worse again, -3.5.
31:28 - Sexy male model. SEXY MALE MODEL. "He looks amazing."
33:40 - Asked if he'd go to see a ballet, he said he'd see Swan Lake. "You should try everything if you can."
36:44 - Dan is better than Phil at Rolling Sky.
38:42 - They had to be at a place for filming at 6:30 am. Slow blinks. Pray for Phil, who had to get up at 5.
39:56 - Shelves are a mess. He shows off where he'd like to put a new shelf, but can't drill into the wall. "If I owned this place, I would."
40:25 - Will not do a Oijia board for spooky week because his mum would kill him. Also some people find them offensive. Also he is 1% scared they are real.
43:06 - Advice for people presenting projects.
44:27 - Get Dan off Tumblr. "I'm sorry, I don't have that power." No Halloween plans, wants to play a scary game or watch a scary movie.
45:14 - Handed out candy at his parents old house. If a teenager comes to your house, they want to break in and steal something.
47:00 - He struggles with the concept of the universe being infinite. "One of the theories is that it's a big sphere and it just always continues, like if you're walking on the earth and you go around the earth we kind of go around the universe. And the edge of the sphere, who knows. Maybe we're just bobbing up and down on a big sea of nothing." or "There is a possibility that we are just computer generated creatures in a simulation. That sounds stupid but that is an actual thing that scientists sometimes consider, because if the simulation was good enough we wouldn't know that we are just computer generated creatures."
48:26 - "I don't need to tweet how much of a fail I am every single day."
48:42 - Two cereal bowls, two hot drinks. Heart eyes emoji.
49:43 - Might go to Harry Potter premiere with Dan, is curious about the movie.
52:40 - He forgot he was doing a younow midway through. I can't figure out why but I like that he shared that.
- Sexy male model.
- Did he not tweet that cereal picture because he felt like it was an overuse of on-brand tropes? (Cereal+Phil, clumsiness+Phil.) Or is it because he genuinely was embarrassed? Because we don't often see Phil expressing insecurity or embarrassment over himself, he generally shares his 'fails' with a laugh. But we know from TATINOF that he does have insecurities and it's a curious look at this perhaps being a threshhold, like he's okay laughing at his clumsiness once in a while but it's embarrassing to reveal how regularly it happens. (They also didn't talk about the mirror hand cut thing.)
re: tumblr reblog
I don't know that I think it's Dan directly hinting but I think it is a further sign that at this point they're less inclined to overanalyze what they put out there/care less about the implications when it's something they're directing at a smaller core audience. There's no way Dan reblogged that without realizing people would apply it to himself talking about Phil, and there's no way he didn't recognize the sexual component inherent in just saying "kink." But he reblogged it anyway. The same way he's far more inclined to tell cute stories in a livestream or like a wink-wink-nudge-nudge tweet or tumblr post.
The thing that hits the widest audience are still main channel videos. The things with the least amount of the real Dan and Phil in them are still main channel videos. The rest? They're fairly lax on. I think I enjoy the idea that they stress less over it more than I would actual hints.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:24 pm
by Artdefines06
BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:I think bluewho is over-analysing here. I'm not the most tumblry of people by any means, but I hang out there a bit, and I immediately recognised the post as part of the "kink:" meme. Probably Dan did realise, when adding it to his queue, that it would be over-analysed by the non-tumblr portion of his audience, but I don't think that was his intention when re-blogging. To me it is a post about insecurity, and valuing re-assurance so highly that it is more important to you than sex.
(in my understanding the "kink:" meme can also be used to self-depricatingly imply that you do not have much of a sex life, or much hope of having sex, but I'm not sure about that, can anybody else verify?)
(and maybe it is a hint to calm down with the daddy kink)
This right here. Thank you I use tumblr and this is how I interpret this. I have one on my blog that says "My fetish is cuddling by the fire place", its not meant to be sexual, but to say that cuddling and being cared for are more important than sex.
MOre interesting is what tag was he scrolling through that he found so much pastel softness and sweet sayings that he resonated with. Everything he re-posts already has lots of notes before he ever posts it which makes me think its the most popular stuff under one subject hes looking through. Maybe he was listening to his lullabyes and feeling soft and researching pastel themes??
My favorite things is looking into the source of the posts he reblogs. Lots of times its homosexual body builders who mostly post selfies with their boyfriends and memes about being gay lol. Very entertaining. Sadly there is no way of knowing if this is coincidence due to tag or if these are the people he follows.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:40 pm
by Sakura Selfie
The thing I find interesting about that post is that he reblogged it when Phil was doing a live show, it could also be said that the people who watch his live shows care about him, listen to him and his opinions so it could looked at as being a nice way of saying thank you to the fans in some ways as well? I know he doesn't think his fans are his friends irl but he does spend an hour every week with thousands of people listening to him so it must be nice for him in some ways to know so many people care about him and his opinions?
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i don't know whether it's because I'm old or because I only go on tumblr to look at pics of cats and squishy Phan drawings (and watch the live shows now) but I don't understand what pastel edits is either, is it just pastel clothes and a flower crown?
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Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:53 pm
by Artdefines06
biatchqueen wrote:The thing I find interesting about that post is that he reblogged it when Phil was doing a live show, it could also be said that the people who watch his live shows care about him, listen to him and his opinions so it could looked at as being a nice way of saying thank you to the fans in some ways as well? I know he doesn't think his fans are his friends irl but he does spend an hour every week with thousands of people listening to him so it must be nice for him in some ways to know so many people care about him and his opinions?
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i don't know whether it's because I'm old or because I only go on tumblr to look at pics of cats and squishy Phan drawings (and watch the live shows now) but I don't understand what pastel edits is either, is it just pastel clothes and a flower crown?
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Part 1 - This post did happen on his hello internet anniversary, so it could have just been a way to say thank you to everyone who has believed in him. I would imagine he was a bit emotional/nostalgic.
Part 2 - Pastel edits are just wearing light colors and soft fabrics and maybe painting your nails and dying your hair in pastel colors. The reason I don't think it will happen is unless they did the hair/nails it would be a very short video of just them wearing sweaters lol. I doubt they are willing to bleach and dye their hair, and the spray was a disaster, so all that is left is nail painting. I would be very happy with a nail painting video, but it's really just not interesting to them so...
People can just rewatch the easter baking video imo.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:39 pm
by bluewho
corn flakes wrote: I don't think regarding phan they will try to drop hints with us, they have clear line between private and public life, a relatioship is something that they wouldn't share and if they did it will be minimalistic but clear enough.
This is a good point.
Artdefines06 wrote:
I use tumblr and this is how I interpret this. I have one on my blog that says "My fetish is cuddling by the fire place", its not meant to be sexual, but to say that cuddling and being cared for are more important than sex.
This is a good point too. Even though I use tumblr I have never seen this type of post before, I'm not familiar with the meme. So yes he could have related to it in a non-sexual way.
I do still agree with eevee and alittledizzy that he must have been aware of how it would be interpreted. But I think it's plausible that he just thought 'fuck it' and reblogged it anyway, deciding not to worry about it - which I would also think is healthier than stressing about every little thing!
More importantly, when is Dan going to change his damn tumblr picture?!?
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:59 pm
by alittledizzy
human wrote:
bluewho wrote:
eevee wrote:I agree with bluewho that Dan knew what he was doing when he reblogged it. Was he dropping a hint or just letting go of all fucks? we may never know. But he's not an idiot. He knows that we analyze everything!
Basically this is what I think. The actual post reads: "kink: when ur friends make u feel valid and like u have importance and listen to u and care about u".
There's no way Dan read something like that - reblogged a post saying affection from his friends is his kink - without knowing people would read it as about Phil.
If he knew people would read it as about Phil, and he reblogged it anyway, he is fuelling phan.
But it says "friend" lol if anything it's pretty antiphan, I think. It's sweet though, I think he reblogged it purely because he has friends in his life who made him feel like that and was being soppy. And I hugely enjoy soppy Dan
Definitely disagree that 'friend' is antiphan considering (as per the Sims video) they both strongly believed that you could be both best friends and romantic partners. They are not people who think one label cancels out the other.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:05 pm
by mio
bluewho wrote:
More importantly, when is Dan going to change his damn tumblr picture?!?
I second this so hard omg. It doesn't go with the aethetic he's trying to achieve at all
I was also wondering what kind of blogs he's following and checked some of them out. Literally 80% weird pastel hipster aesthetics and random pictures that are supposed to be edgy and 20 % memes. At what corner of tumblr does he even hang out?? My dash keeps circling back to fandoms and shitposts, even though I deliberately go and follow these kind of blogs to mix it up.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:21 pm
by nephilimcat
I don't understand why straight cis girls people are so obsessed with pastel edits. Just because of the nail polish and flower crowns? People already took Dan painting his nails as an implication for him being gay, so tbh I feel like a lot of people just want to see them do "girly" things. I honestly don't really get that. It would be a video for fun and therefore wouldn't mean anything. Besides, they wore flower crowns several times, Dan wore nail polish once and Phil fairly recently bought a pastel shirt - we are already getting the things people seem to want. I got the punk edits because that was quite a big transition for them, but pastel edits will not make that much of a difference. I also don't want to see all the comments because they will either be "They smashed gender roles OMG!!!111!!!" or "They look so gay/female lol". I don't feel like they, especially Dan, would want to make a video that leads to those stereotypical reactions.
If they happen to make that video, I'll watch it, probably even enjoy it because it's Deppy and avoid the comment section, but I'd rather have other videos instead.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:33 pm
by papierklemmen
yeah, i guess i'm too old cause i don't get the pastel edit thing either. also, peer pressure lol. yeah, they're grown ass men but sometimes it feels like the fandom won't stop until they get certain stuff from them e.g. dan painting his nails, AND then they take it as confirmation of something they pojected upon him in the first place.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:41 pm
by bluewho
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:41 pm
by eevee
^
why didn't he just say phil lol
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:45 pm
by ohgod
eevee wrote:^
why didn't he just say phil lol
They were out filming something today, presumably youtube rewind. I'm guessing it was someone they were filming with (idt Phil is that stupid lmao)
Edit: jk he said it was an irl friend
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:47 pm
by melon lord
bluewho wrote:
Who is that friend I need to know Boy only gives half the information c'mon now
PSA if your penis looks purple and bigger at the head then you should see a doctor asap
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:48 pm
by SquishPhan
eevee wrote:^
why didn't he just say phil lol
Doesn't seem like it was Phil. Thought it was at first as well, but am relieved that it isn't.
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:50 pm
by blueapple_x
Can't wait for YT Rewind
Re: Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:52 pm
by papierklemmen
blueapple_x wrote:
Can't wait for YT Rewind
well good to know their part is awesome, i barely remember their parts in the yt rewind from other years.