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papierklemmen wrote:the YouTube algorithm of everyday videos is really working, i feel like i'm in drugs cause 1) i didn't hate the video despite it being akinator 2) i still have tiny phan goggles on despite the lack of touching

Don't get me wrong- I have been loving the touching (this sounded less weird in my head) but I only love it when it's natural. Some of their vids have been natural but the touching has almost seemed over the top lately so I'm glad they can still show their bond without it (and we still have 14 days to get through- idk if I can survive if they keep it up)

Now that being said - I've got health insurance so If they HAVE to keep touching then watching them do it is a risk I'm going to have to take

Amiaw wrote:

papierklemmen wrote:the YouTube algorithm of everyday videos is really working, i feel like i'm in drugs cause 1) i didn't hate the video despite it being akinator 2) i still have tiny phan goggles on despite the lack of touching

Don't get me wrong- I have been loving the touching (this sounded less weird in my head) but I only love it when it's natural. Some of their vids have been natural but the touching has almost seemed over the top lately so I'm glad they can still show their bond without it (and we still have 14 days to get through- idk if I can survive if they keep it up)

Now that being said - I've got health insurance so If they HAVE to keep touching then watching them do it is a risk I'm going to have to take

nah, i feel you, in fact i tend to take all their phan moments with a grain of "this is all fanservice" salt. but something has been different about them both lately and their soft bro fun didnt help.

papierklemmen wrote: i wouldn't expect a hug, we are talking about two supposed VERY BEST FRIENDS who didn't even hug at the end of their show/tour in the docu when it was emotionally appropriate...

totally agree with you there, they probably hugged a lot after the last show in private though (I am so sorry)

I honestly don't think anything better/shippier than what we got will happen (is that even possible) and that gaymas will stay on the same level of cuteness as it currently is, I would love to be proven wrong though
edit: I want to use a few christmas emoticons too

Long, over-analytical timestamps incoming

2:00 Phil doesn’t consider the possibility of a non-binary or agender raindeer.
I’m lowkey disappointed (and maybe a tiny bit hurt? just a tiny bit) that Phil hasn’t fully internalised the concept of non-binary gender, but not really surprised.

2:37 spraying himself pink to go out on the town. If that’s not the gayest thing I’ve ever heard I don’t know what is

3:43 Reindeer fun? Is that what we’re calling it?
His and Dan’s names are generally listed together. would he say that he and Dan are “paired off” and “having fun”?

4:25 “know each other well” is clearly a euphemism. Dan is pretends to be jealous over Phil having furry fun with a probably fictional reindeer.

5:02 so far Dan has been avoiding pronouns while Phil has been using he/him. Phil’s mouse goes to “no” but Dan reminds him to choose “don’t know”

6:00-6:24 Phil harrus the sad truth of chirstmas. Not as good at harruing as Dan, but he will improve with practice I’m sure.

6:25 Paired off with Cupid, but definitely not married. Does Cupid not identify as female, or are they paired off but not married, or does Comet have a secret wife who isn't part of the sleigh gang and he's cheating on with Cupid?

6:30 Probably lives with best friend, but we don’t know whether best friend is Cupid or one of the other reindeer

7:06 narrowly avoided saying “does he com”

7:20 adorable fighting over what to tell the closest thing they currently have to children.
Phil looks at the camera, but not directly, sort of sideways? while Dan looks at Phil

8:26 hypothetical marriage angst

8:30 Mrs Claws married for the money and now resents her husband’s life decisions

Dan is always choosing “don’t know” rather than guessing like Phil wants to. Something about not wanting to fill in the blanks in a famous person’s life when you don’t know the whole story?

8:38 “they’re happily married” in a much deeper voice than Phil’s usual on-camera tone. I feel like they’re not quite imagining the same story here

8:39 Dan comments on akinator rather than agreeing or disagreeing with Phil

9:51 I have an idea “omnigender” was deemed problematic because it implies identification with all genders, including those belonging to specific cultures, but it doesn’t surprise or disappoint me that Dan isn’t far enough up tumblr’s arse to know that off the top of his head

10:30 unnecessary moment of sentimentality

10:35 so they like to do it in the lounge?

10:56 in what way would the tree be a warrior?

11:22 what does Dan say here? I’m not sure I’m hearing correctly. “let’s not go down that like weird furry out-take from my life”?

papierklemmen wrote:

Amiaw wrote:

papierklemmen wrote:the YouTube algorithm of everyday videos is really working, i feel like i'm in drugs cause 1) i didn't hate the video despite it being akinator 2) i still have tiny phan goggles on despite the lack of touching

Don't get me wrong- I have been loving the touching (this sounded less weird in my head) but I only love it when it's natural. Some of their vids have been natural but the touching has almost seemed over the top lately so I'm glad they can still show their bond without it (and we still have 14 days to get through- idk if I can survive if they keep it up)

Now that being said - I've got health insurance so If they HAVE to keep touching then watching them do it is a risk I'm going to have to take

nah, i feel you, in fact i tend to take all their phan moments with a grain of "this is all fanservice" salt. but something has been different about them both lately and their soft bro fun didnt help.

This is something I've been mulling over - apart from a more casual vibe - a lot of their touchiness lately seems really deliberate, as if they put a few of these moments into every video on purspose, after years of being careful with their interactions.
I just can't wrap my head around WHY they'd do this now and so heavily all of a sudden. Baiting to keep people invested/attract new viewers (or whatever shipbaiting is for idk) doesn't make any sense at this moment, with all the big projects and risks out of the way. I mean why would they try and start stirring the shipping pot now, after they basically achieved everything a youtuber can achieve and more and have the most loyal fanbase already?

The only other explanation I can think of is that they actually want to be seen this way now and made a conscious decision to. Sorry I can't lose the anymore. If in some way they turn out to be not together it will seriously break my brain.

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote: 7:20 adorable fighting over what to tell the closest thing they currently have to children.
Phil looks at the camera, but not directly, sort of sideways? while Dan looks at Phil

If you slow down this now-iconic moment to 0.25x, Phil flinches right at the beginning when Dan leans in, and he also seems to be looking at the viewfinder during Dan's staring, maybe mentally running through whether they're too close or not? (Makes sense as he reiterates an irrelevant point, maybe because he felt under pressure: "this is the magic Christmas video...about akinator" I mean, we know Phiru) It kinda makes me sad actually, like ever since voldy maybe Phil's defences just kick into high gear in these moments?

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote: 10:35 so they like to do it in the lounge?

Where my mind was going too

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote: 11:22 what does Dan say here? I’m not sure I’m hearing correctly. “let’s not go down that like weird furry out-take from my life”?

Yes that's what he says (except I swear it's "our life"? #phurries sorta confirmed?!)

I wasn't exactly stoked when I saw Akinator in my subbox, but it doesn't matter because there's been so many great videos lately so I can't be mad even if I wanted to. And while it's not my favorite Gaymas video, it wasn't bad.

Anyway just repeating everyone, HOLY SHIT @ 7:22... Dan looks like he's about to grab Phil's face and make out with him. That's the softest and most fond look I've ever seen. And he looks him up and down as well, like calm down Dan at least finish filming the video first.

Maya wrote:

jesus christ dan

majitzu wrote:

http://pseudophan.tumblr.com/post/154349476770/2010-2016 wrote:

Honestly not sure whether I'm gonna make it out of 2016 alive if they keep this up. Honestly I wouldn't mind so keep it up Depz

I know it means nothing really (insert Dan saying "I'm joking, obviously" here) but considering the content ('love' and 'peace') of this tweet he replied to, interesting or nah? (Acknowledging his trolling perhaps?)

If he does say "our furry life" then I'm far more interested in the "life" than the "furry". Usually (publicly) they use "lives" plural when they say "our". imo "our life" singular is significant and commitment-y, both because that's what it felt natural to say (though that doesn't surprise me) and because he/they chose to leave it in when editing.

mermaid blood wrote: 1.12 dan: "alien of christmas probing gives you exactly what you want on xmas eve"

Dan can't get what he wants on chirstmas eve when they're both staying with their respective families

Edited to add:

koalaselfie wrote:I know it means nothing really (insert Dan saying "I'm joking, obviously" here) but considering the content ('love' and 'peace') of this tweet he replied to, interesting or nah? (Acknowledging his trolling perhaps?)

I think he's making fun of the tweet being barely understandable.

I would guess that this was someone who is not a native English speaker, and what they probably meant was "why do you love doing peace signs?" or "why do you do peace signs so much?" and they didn't know how better to say it.

Maybe Dan thought they were a person with good English who was too excited/lazy to construct a proper sentence? I'd like to think he wouldn't want to openly mock someone who is honestly trying to make themselves understood in a second or third language.

majitzu wrote:

nephilimcat wrote:
Edit: Someone mentioned Dan's voice sounded like he was getting sick in one of the videos and I think it sounded like it in this video as well. Hope he doesn't get sick/is sick!

I think they filmed this on November, maybe after the boncas, it would explain Dan's voice (also i don't hear anything butI can't be trusted with that)

At 0:34 you can see the date on the website is November 27th.

Nevermind, just visited the website and it scrolls through a bunch of past dates, so that doesn't help.

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:If he does say "our furry life" then I'm far more interested in the "life" than the "furry". Usually (publicly) they use "lives" plural when they say "our". imo "our life" singular is significant and commitment-y, both because that's what it felt natural to say (though that doesn't surprise me) and because he/they chose to leave it in when editing.

mermaid blood wrote: 1.12 dan: "alien of christmas probing gives you exactly what you want on xmas eve"

Dan can't get what he wants on chirstmas eve when they're both staying with their respective families

it's "our life", hence my freaking out on the previous page.

yes, the blatant anal play joke on Christmas Eve, aw
(did they not spend it together last year though? which year was it where Dan posted the selfie going to Reading on the train at 11pm at night?)

Also why would Dan give a shit about 'how well' Phil knows the male reindeer (4.25), if they're Just Friends™. stay in your lane Dan, not your concern.

mermaid blood wrote:

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:If he does say "our furry life" then I'm far more interested in the "life" than the "furry". Usually (publicly) they use "lives" plural when they say "our". imo "our life" singular is significant and commitment-y, both because that's what it felt natural to say (though that doesn't surprise me) and because he/they chose to leave it in when editing.

mermaid blood wrote: 1.12 dan: "alien of christmas probing gives you exactly what you want on xmas eve"

Dan can't get what he wants on chirstmas eve when they're both staying with their respective families

it's "our life", hence my freaking out on the previous page.

yes, the blatant anal play joke on Christmas Eve, aw
(did they not spend it together last year though? which year was it where Dan posted the selfie going to Reading on the train at 11pm at night?)

Do you actually think that they would have anal sex only a few hours before Dan has to get on a train to see his family for chirstmas?
(and even if Dan did travel at 11pm that alone doesn't mean they were together for most of chirstmas eve, Phil may have travelled earlier and Dan been alone in the flat for a few days.

Dan on 4chan?

http://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/12041573

mio wrote:

papierklemmen wrote:

Amiaw wrote:

papierklemmen wrote:the YouTube algorithm of everyday videos is really working, i feel like i'm in drugs cause 1) i didn't hate the video despite it being akinator 2) i still have tiny phan goggles on despite the lack of touching

Don't get me wrong- I have been loving the touching (this sounded less weird in my head) but I only love it when it's natural. Some of their vids have been natural but the touching has almost seemed over the top lately so I'm glad they can still show their bond without it (and we still have 14 days to get through- idk if I can survive if they keep it up)

Now that being said - I've got health insurance so If they HAVE to keep touching then watching them do it is a risk I'm going to have to take

nah, i feel you, in fact i tend to take all their phan moments with a grain of "this is all fanservice" salt. but something has been different about them both lately and their soft bro fun didnt help.

This is something I've been mulling over - apart from a more casual vibe - a lot of their touchiness lately seems really deliberate, as if they put a few of these moments into every video on purspose, after years of being careful with their interactions.
I just can't wrap my head around WHY they'd do this now and so heavily all of a sudden. Baiting to keep people invested/attract new viewers (or whatever shipbaiting is for idk) doesn't make any sense at this moment, with all the big projects and risks out of the way. I mean why would they try and start stirring the shipping pot now, after they basically achieved everything a youtuber can achieve and more and have the most loyal fanbase already?

The only other explanation I can think of is that they actually want to be seen this way now and made a conscious decision to. Sorry I can't lose the anymore. If in some way they turn out to be not together it will seriously break my brain.

Devil's advocate:
Theory1:
They are doing it to keep people watching everyday, because they know the games they've chosen to play are boring. And they need the money

Theory2:
The tour and book did so well and they are so happy about it they are rewarding the phandom by giving it what it wants. They're saying "good boy! now here's your treat!"

mermaid blood wrote:

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:If he does say "our furry life" then I'm far more interested in the "life" than the "furry". Usually (publicly) they use "lives" plural when they say "our". imo "our life" singular is significant and commitment-y, both because that's what it felt natural to say (though that doesn't surprise me) and because he/they chose to leave it in when editing.

mermaid blood wrote: 1.12 dan: "alien of christmas probing gives you exactly what you want on xmas eve"

Dan can't get what he wants on chirstmas eve when they're both staying with their respective families

it's "our life", hence my freaking out on the previous page.

yes, the blatant anal play joke on Christmas Eve, aw
(did they not spend it together last year though? which year was it where Dan posted the selfie going to Reading on the train at 11pm at night?)

Also why would Dan give a shit about 'how well' Phil knows the male reindeer (4.25), if they're Just Friends™. stay in your lane Dan, not your concern.

Phil tends to arrive at his family's house a day or two before Christmas Eve, whereas Dan doesn't leave for his family's house until Christmas Eve.

The 11pm-on-Christmas-Eve train selfie was 2014:
Phil was already with his family on the 23rd:
Last year (2015) Dan tweeted this on Christmas Eve:
(who knows when he actually arrived though)

Phil left London on the 22nd:

elias wrote:Dan on 4chan?

http://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/12041573

I'm sorry but I just started laughing uncontrollably at this

someone has way too much time on their hands or they just wanted Dan to get roasted savagely

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:

I think he's making fun of the tweet being barely understandable.

I would guess that this was someone who is not a native English speaker, and what they probably meant was "why do you love doing peace signs?" or "why do you do peace signs so much?" and they didn't know how better to say it.

Maybe Dan thought they were a person with good English who was too excited/lazy to construct a proper sentence? I'd like to think he wouldn't want to openly mock someone who is honestly trying to make themselves understood in a second or third language.

I checked the Twitter of the user and they were indeed not a native English speaker (afaik). I think his response drew my attention less because I believed him to be mocking them, and more because the overall meaning of their tweet, indecipherable by accident, includes 'peace' and 'love' and we've been seeing an awful lot of that (albeit with for the most part) this gamingmas. It's a stretch, but what I was getting at was maybe that Dan, being aware (I mean, it's extremely likely he is) of the positive reception to the increased intimacy in gayming-mas, was hinting that 'yes' = 'peace' and 'love' are themes atm in his life. (It's a reach admittedly; it just seems hard for me to accept that he randomly answered 'yes' as a joke without really thinking, given how much this boy seems to over-think).

About Dan's Festive vibe photo, I'm surprised no one seems to notice and discuss his trolling search on Google "bee movie yaoi"? Or is it not worth mentioned?

I loved that video, totally agree with what people are saying about Phil, he's been great and he was wonderful in this one, I loved the vehement, anti-cynical Santa and reindeer defence.

I don't think any of the touchy moments lately, or ever that I can remember except for obvious things like holding hands to do a yoga pose in pinof, have seemed acted and I don't know why they'd bother tbh. I don't know, of course, but I don't get the vibe that they're doing things like that on purpose compared to when they make a big thing of calling each other Phiru-senpai or Dan-kun in the third tumblr video.

Dan's such a cheeky sh*t with those endscreen subscription bubbles. Anyone who's just found them and taps them to subscribe might change their mind on seeing that His tweet earlier, with the bee movie yaoi search tab visible, was hilarious, does being left alone bring out the cheek more The doughnut bauble is very pretty, but what about Phil's NASA bauble?

That old poster of Phil is so pretty. Who the heck gave his parents a copy of Shout magazine, maybe they saw it in the newsagent and bought it for the lols, funny either way.

Good grief, that 4chan thread. They clocked him about halfway down, no less insulting knowing who he is than before just telling him not to wear skinny jeans

flarequake wrote:
Good grief, that 4chan thread. They clocked him about halfway down, no less insulting knowing who he is than before just telling him not to wear skinny jeans

I kind of wanna trawl through /fa/ and see if these are actual pieces mentioned in threads, because if that's true then it's either helluva cosmic coincidence or the weirdo/person is SUPER creepy on a level I never thought about

It's one thing when/if we find out what he wears, but to impersonate him/actually use references of clothes mentioned in /fa/ is really odd

I got kind of defensive of him reading those replies but I have to remember it's 4chan and I will just lose brain cells and faith in humanity if I even try to overthink it

elias wrote:Dan on 4chan?

http://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/12041573

no way this is actually him lol, probably just another phannie with a lot of free time that wanted dan to get read to filth

000dia000 wrote:

Birdie wrote:

000dia000 wrote:

Trigger Warning :

Evan Edinger

Man, he makes it hard for me to keep liking him. I'm not going to watch it, would someone who does mind telling me if he mentions the guys or if this is just clickbait? I really liked Evan a few months ago and I still find him adorable but why can't he just move on.

Well, it goes without saying that it's clickbait, right off the bat they all mention how their first youtube fangirling was over charieissocoollike/amazingphil

I could summarize, or you could watch the video, they only discuss them from 00:00 to 1:25

mentions include, though: calling deppy (namely phil) gods, Lucy (the girl) her friend called Dan "so much hotter" than Phil that shocked the other two. Other mentions throughout the video mentioned Evan and Luke's cringey past and how they've alienated some youtubers that way and then said how they try to be nice to any smaller youtubers who have similar behaviors to prevent them feeling the same way (okay, then)

Its interesting to note that Phil is someone youtubers watch as one of the first they fan over most probably to them enjoying what he recorded, as opposed to the stigma Dan had then i.e. the cute guy viewers watch.

I remembered I watched AP since late 2009/early 2010 and did not even bothered to check out DINOF, as I thought Dan will just be on AP's as guest cause he was his bf (did not understand the concept of collab then). I only knew DINOF is another proper youtuber when I saw him in Jackgap's video and I then immediately categorise him as the early-age twins' category of cute british boys that does shallow videos.

yeah i was kidding about the christmas eve probing guys, haha. i doubt it's high on their priority list with everything else going on and the travelling.

HauntedEmma i saw people laughing about it on twitter. i just kind of rolled my eyes at it. it wasn't unfunny, i was just spending longer trying to figure out what christmas decs they have hanging (like what is the round one? a donut?)

lmfao at that Evan video. that subset of friends is still so delusional about their own behaviour.

koalaselfie wrote:

BisexualShoeMarriage wrote:

I think he's making fun of the tweet being barely understandable.

I would guess that this was someone who is not a native English speaker, and what they probably meant was "why do you love doing peace signs?" or "why do you do peace signs so much?" and they didn't know how better to say it.

Maybe Dan thought they were a person with good English who was too excited/lazy to construct a proper sentence? I'd like to think he wouldn't want to openly mock someone who is honestly trying to make themselves understood in a second or third language.

I checked the Twitter of the user and they were indeed not a native English speaker (afaik). I think his response drew my attention less because I believed him to be mocking them, and more because the overall meaning of their tweet, indecipherable by accident, includes 'peace' and 'love' and we've been seeing an awful lot of that (albeit with for the most part) this gamingmas. It's a stretch, but what I was getting at was maybe that Dan, being aware (I mean, it's extremely likely he is) of the positive reception to the increased intimacy in gayming-mas, was hinting that 'yes' = 'peace' and 'love' are themes atm in his life. (It's a reach admittedly; it just seems hard for me to accept that he randomly answered 'yes' as a joke without really thinking, given how much this boy seems to over-think).

ok I still think him mocking is more likely, but now I think maybe he read it as, or thought it could be read as
"why do you (plural, meaning him and Phil) love [each other] so much (visibly on camera), [is it a] sign of peace"
or
"why do you love [Phil] so much, [is it a] sign of peace"

elias wrote:Dan on 4chan?

http://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/12041573

i would not doubt dan being on 4 chan (which boards does he frequent on /a/ shitposting on /b/ or some of that /hm/ and /y/ ) but that's probably just some random fan-girl