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Wow I didn't need that second pic

wow it's all happening tonight.

second book, dan in leggings and the gator girl hat out in public, pokemon go on dapg...

Lain wrote:I was searching for Dan's leggings (found them - they're from the NikeLab x Gyakusou: Running Collection), when I came across something neat.

Dan's tights:

And now for something completely different (and nsfw):

When worn properly they aren't that bad. Personally I prefer the second pair. If anything they'd keep him cool.

My problem isn't that they're making as much money as they can while it lasts (it's only the smart thing to do), my problem is that they abandon everything else to make their projects happen. When they were busy with TABINOF they got worse with uploading than ever and quality started going down as well. This time, as I'm guessing they were simultaneously touring and writing if the book's already gonna be out in November of this year, they disconnected from their audience for more than two months. On purpose. That's not right to me, and it never will be.

Unless they're coming out in the book by confessing to all the banging they did on their shared bed in the tourbus or something, I'm probably not buying it. I didn't buy TABINOF either, the only reason I now own it because my friend gave it to me as a joke present for Christmas. It looks nice and I'm sure they put lots of effort and love into it, but it was 90% stuff I already knew. At least that won't be a problem this time, because we ain't hearing even a word about tour until that damn book is out.

Can I also say I hate it when people say 'Well at least they're not using ghostwriters or selling low quality crap' and stuff like that? Not even addressing specific people here, just in general because I hear it all the time. Why do we keep praising them for doing the bare minimum? Are we really sticking feathers up their asses for not lying and scamming their audience out of money? Good job boys, you're decent people

pearshaped34 wrote:I can't say I'm personally particularly excited for another book but I also don't really understand why it offends people when they do stuff to make more money. I'm of the opinion that this is their career and why shouldn't they try to get richer.

I mean don't get me wrong I'd probably be shading them too if they were constantly putting their names to any piece of trash that came their way just to make money but as long as they actually put effort in and then produce something of good quality then I'm cool with them charging fans for it.

Well, I'm not excited for the book at all but it also doesn't offend me when they do stuff to make more money. I want them to do well financially. But the bolded part is absolutely crucial to me. If I am to be a happy and supportive consummer I personally need to feel that the product was made with great effort, care and consideration and that it is probably of good quality. I imagine that Deppy did put a lot of effort into the second book BUT at the same time I feel that its exsistence is so monumentally unnecessary (to make it very short: not enough material, the nature of the material is better suited just for a film, tabinof was supposed to encompass a full D&P experience) that I have a very strong hunch that this book will be... not very good? And an even stronger hunch that it was made with very little consideration which, tbh, bugs me the most in all of it.

I know that Deppy proved many a time that they can produce good quality stuff so I have lots of faith in them. And it's making me feel a little bit guilty that apparently this faith is not enough for the second book. Oh well. For what it's worth I'm ready to be proven wrong by them but for now I'm not a happy and pokemonGo damage control does very little for me. Phil's jacket is nice and it wouldn't hurt my curiosity to see Dan's leggins from different angles (ekhem) I s'pose

I feel like a grumpy cat right now, why can't I be as excited as some of you, dang it

Discussion has been interesting

Pokemon GO!
I'm not excited to watch them play that. It's only interesting IRL, I like playthroughs of decision based games better because I'm an analytical fuck and they're fun to analyze. (And while Undertale bores me, the music and their banter is super calming. Would suggest for anxiety and insomnia.) I really would enjoy them playing more thoughtful games or Naughty Dog type.

New Book...
I hope it sells well. But I don't think it's going to be good. Probably phanservicey af (which will make me eye-roll as I don't Believe in phan) and quickly produced. I still respect them as 'creators' but I won't buy it.

I get your point hunnyftw but personally I'm willing to wait to see the book before I judge them for it being poor quality. I feel like with the TABINOF and TATINOF everyone jumped to criticize them for them being bad before they were out and they both turned out (from most accounts anyway) to be good quality products that they really tried with so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this will be too.

That being said while I do expect good things from the book I'm in total agreement it's unnecessary to have a second book coming out just over a year after the first one and I hope this is them wrapping up this chapter and putting the tours and the books to rest for a long stretch rather then them starting some kind of yearly book tradition.

pearshaped34 wrote: That being said while I do expect good things from the book I'm in total agreement it's unnecessary to have a second book coming out just over a year after the first one and I hope this is them wrapping up this chapter and putting the tours and the books to rest for a long stretch rather then them starting some kind of yearly book tradition.

Yeah, I also think (hope?) that it's more of a end-book for this book-tour chapter. If it is an accompaniment to the tour stuff I would actually get it even though I'm a bit about the whole thing.

but I def don't see them extending it to another tour like this one so soon. they might've been able to pull it off if they had maintained a consistent uploading schedule (even one as sparse as their 1 vid/2-3 ls a month) that helped maintain or grow the rest of the fanbase.

Have a hastily put together bullet point list of my thoughts, since my work day is too busy to write out my normal thousand word essay on my feelings.

- No issue with them doing a book. Not sure what people expected Dan was talking about when he said physical item from the tour? I assumed at that point it was a book of some kind.
- Pleasantly surprised that it says its 200+ pages. (Can't remember the actual # atm.) I was expecting a scrapbook style thing that wouldn't involve many stories and just be pictures. The high page count just intrigues me.
- Actually kind of relieved that it's coming out in November because that means the bulk of it is probably written already, and was being written throughout the tour. This means they were actually doing something while traveling and not filming, which combats my exasperation with their work ethic.
- How many times do you think Phil grabbed Dan's butt in those leggings? Like, a lot of times, I hope.
- I don't think you would need to have gone on the tour to enjoy them telling stories about the tour, either. I mean... I read a whole lot of things in my life and still enjoy them without having the direct experience being described.
- This doesn't feel like milking an audience to me any more than any entertainer putting out a product would be. If the product ends up being crappy, I'll be annoyed then. But their first book was a huge success, giving them every indication that people would like to read more from them. Entertainers making money from being entertaining isn't groundbreaking or deceptive or manipulative if what they're making are still good products. (Quality is subjective but that's a whole different conversation.)
- I do reserve the right to amend this opinion if the book ends up nothing but collages of pictures and no substance or reflection involved. But at this point considering how much work they put into tabinof and tatinof I will give them the benefit of the doubt. They're frustrating as hell and I have so many complaints about their time management and so many ways I'd prefer they do things differently, but as of now the things they have managed to put out there (excluding the yt channels atm, which is also a whole other conversation) have been things they put a lot of time and care into.

pearshaped34 wrote:That being said while I do expect good things from the book I'm in total agreement it's unnecessary to have a second book coming out just over a year after the first one and I hope this is them wrapping up this chapter and putting the tours and the books to rest for a long stretch rather then them starting some kind of yearly book tradition.

Well, they do like they traditions, don't they? Expect year 2030 to be the year of pinof #22 and tabinof #16
Did I get the numbers right? Probably not.

Also in a way I commend your ability to wait calmly for the book before you judge Deppy. This optimism and patience are sadly 100% not for me so I'll be sitting in my grumpy corner muttering my complaints to myself

So, Dan actually ran after pokemons through London with this cap on his head.
I adore this guy so much rn.

Edit: Second book - if this is true, i think it will be something like tour diary, full of memories, and nice ending of TATINOF and TABINOF. Without huge promo and tour. I am quite sad, because TABINOF was their child, like, they were so happy when they talk about this. :3

i really hope the new book has more actual writing in it than the last one. i want some nice storytelling, i bet they have a lot to talk about in it if it's tour-based.

ostiral wrote:

So, Dan actually ran after pokemons through London with this cap on his head.
I adore this guy so much rn.

Edit: Second book - if this is true, i think it will be something like tour diary, full of memories, and nice ending of TATINOF and TABINOF. Without huge promo and tour. I am quite sad, because TABINOF was their child, like, they were so happy when they talk about this. :3

def weren't trying to blend in then since a 6'3" tall man with a bright bedazzled cap would be pretty easy to spot anywhere

As ostiral mentioned, there are pics of deppy meeting fans in the outfits their Pokemon Go pics today. here's one where you can see more of what they're wearing:
Do you guys think they're literally damage controlling so much that they're filming the Pokemon GO video as a response to the book leaking?

edit: matching coffees

I don't blame for trying to make money where possible tbh, also since most of the content they produce is consumed by their fan-base for free I personally wouldn't criticise them for 'money grabbing' or anything like that at all for charging a couple of quid for a book or two. If I'm not interested in the book I won't buy it, so it doesn't affect me either way. Obviously I'll be mildly disappointed if making the book leads them to upload less, but to be honest I guess I feel lucky that the content they do produce is free anyway - normally free content is not as enjoyable as 's - for example I have never been that interested in any other youtubers so

But I would love a proper book from them that's actually about something because I think Dan could be a really good writer and Phil is extremely creative and together if they wrote something interesting I think it would be amazing. But this second book is just going to be about tour experiences and the first one wasn't really about anything new so . But if they want to bring out another book more power to them. Perhaps this is harsh though because I haven't read TABINOF because I looked at what was in it and that didn't strike me as interesting enough for me to part with my money for - perhaps if I had read it I would feel differently I've actually been thinking about buying the audiobook since they released that but I feel like there isn't anything in there I don't already know.

The tumblr post by Drew Monson has me seriously myself at the moment. I spent years just watching Dan on YouTube thinking phan shippers were just a bit silly, and Dan was straight etc and only just recently 'discovered' things might be bit more complicated than that - so I still haven't really worked out whether I think it is invasive to speculate about such things which are essentially none of my business, and which Dan (and possibly Phil) would probably rather be left private .

well, reading the last few pages was An Experience™

re: book, oh wow, i'm so surprised, it's like no one ever suggested they were obviously writing another book because that's how all the youtuber book contracts went..... said no one

just so you know, i literally facepalmed when i saw that search screenshot

i'm with catallena on this one, i don't care that they are cashing in, and good for them for actually putting effort into it, what bothers me is their complete innability to handle their channels and side projects at the same time, i can't believe they kept us in the dark for two months for this (well actually i can, i knew they were doing this, i just hoped i was wrong) people weren't gonna stop buying the book because we knew a little bit more of what was going on when it was actually happening

and who knows, maybe this time they will actually convince me to buy it.... yeah no i don't believe that either

re: pokemon go, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS god fucking bless, that's all i have to say

re: their outfits, i'm a big fan of both the leggings and the bomber jacket (that btw i think it's the one from shein.com that i considered buying a few weeks ago, lol)

i want to see dan's butt in those leggings, phil pls don't fail me here

lmaaaaaaaao I'm a Dangirl (a bit of a cringe term) but this outfit is the definition of 'wut'
Phil looks so cute in his own photo, I love his simplistic style with something colorful thrown in

And omg people were right about the second book.. Beyond BTS stories, what else could they share? After all, the thought behind the first one was that it included basically everything they wanted to "preserve"..
Of course there's always the option of a saga, ala ASOIAF

CatallenaMy experience in life taught me that unfortunately decent people aren't so common as one would expect, especially in something like the yt world, so yes for me it's something that should be noted, not praised, but I'm like that in life
At the end they are decent people that I will judge once their book comes out, till now at least imo their products are good so why not wait till I see their next one?

eevee wrote:

Do you guys think they're literally damage controlling so much that they're filming the Pokemon GO video as a response to the book leaking?

edit: matching coffees

Damage control or not they look good and they are filming

I don't think they are doing damage control, I think it was just coincidence.

I'm with dizzy in the opinions about the book. If they have been writing it and filming the making of the tour then I finally can understand why they haven't have time to film more youtube videos. I will buy the book and then pray for them to return to their normal schedule.

I'm not excited but I'm not mad at all. I know they put effort in what they do, I just wish they knew how to put effort in various things at the same time.

I need that pokemon video and I need the game in my country !!!

I love how Phil looks here

loststars wrote: And omg people were right about the second book.. Beyond BTS stories, what else could they share? After all, the thought behind the first one was that it included basically everything they wanted to "preserve"..
Of course there's always the option of a saga, ala ASOIAF

Well they did take photos of almost every meet and greet, so there's that. Also the making of tatinof is more like the preproduction of what tatinof is from what I understand, so maybe it doesn't include all their travels? Like all the side stories of what happened in what city?
Ether way I'm kinda interesting and also wondering, how long can Dan and Phil not talk about it? Their upcoming live shows will just be full of questions about it. Are they just going to it? Or are we going to get conformation in the next few days. This should be interesting to see.

why is phils face so perfect? how? his skin i wanna touch it . nice jacket too.

alittledizzy wrote:

Have a hastily put together bullet point list of my thoughts, since my work day is too busy to write out my normal thousand word essay on my feelings.

- No issue with them doing a book. Not sure what people expected Dan was talking about when he said physical item from the tour? I assumed at that point it was a book of some kind.
- Pleasantly surprised that it says its 200+ pages. (Can't remember the actual # atm.) I was expecting a scrapbook style thing that wouldn't involve many stories and just be pictures. The high page count just intrigues me.
- Actually kind of relieved that it's coming out in November because that means the bulk of it is probably written already, and was being written throughout the tour. This means they were actually doing something while traveling and not filming, which combats my exasperation with their work ethic.
- How many times do you think Phil grabbed Dan's butt in those leggings? Like, a lot of times, I hope.
- I don't think you would need to have gone on the tour to enjoy them telling stories about the tour, either. I mean... I read a whole lot of things in my life and still enjoy them without having the direct experience being described.
- This doesn't feel like milking an audience to me any more than any entertainer putting out a product would be. If the product ends up being crappy, I'll be annoyed then. But their first book was a huge success, giving them every indication that people would like to read more from them. Entertainers making money from being entertaining isn't groundbreaking or deceptive or manipulative if what they're making are still good products. (Quality is subjective but that's a whole different conversation.)
- I do reserve the right to amend this opinion if the book ends up nothing but collages of pictures and no substance or reflection involved. But at this point considering how much work they put into tabinof and tatinof I will give them the benefit of the doubt. They're frustrating as hell and I have so many complaints about their time management and so many ways I'd prefer they do things differently, but as of now the things they have managed to put out there (excluding the yt channels atm, which is also a whole other conversation) have been things they put a lot of time and care into.

how do you do this? how do you find a bright side in everything? Teach me.
especially:

- How many times do you think Phil grabbed Dan's butt in those leggings? Like, a lot of times, I hope.

oh god where did all these girls come from, Phil looks terrified.

Phil looks terrified!

jynx!

they do look terrified. noone help them please. they deserve it