Dan & Phil Part 69: our cherry blossom
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phil's my secret fbi agent, he tweeted this literally when i was on the tube with a random piece of toast at my feet.alittledizzy wrote: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:50 pm Your pleas for them to feed us fall on deaf ears. He cannot possibly consider our hunger. He is too busy clinking his food together in victory.
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Hey guys, since the thread is slow right now *cough where is our content d&p?* i have a question...
Do you think that since the tour is so big and they already made one some more 'mainstream' media is going to interview d&p about it? something like what the did with the huffington post for the book or the talk with caitlin moran? i'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
Do you think that since the tour is so big and they already made one some more 'mainstream' media is going to interview d&p about it? something like what the did with the huffington post for the book or the talk with caitlin moran? i'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
I honestly can't see that happening. At most I can see people writing a review for the show or something like that and maybe getting one or two quotes from deppy about it but I can't see them doing a full interview. I do understand what you're saying though because I see ads for the tour on mainstream media sites like instagram and people have shown newspapers where it talks about the upcoming show but I feel like tatinof had the same amount of publicity. Again I wasn't here at the time but it's just what I've heard. I would love to be proven wrong. Maybe in a country where they/youtubers in general haven't been before they may get an interview. I can see how maybe in Mumbai or Russia someone may want to do an interview with deppy since it is quite rare to have youtubers perform there. (I know some may have in the past but it's not an ongoing occurrence.)kindofatrashcan wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:32 am Hey guys, since the thread is slow right now *cough where is our content d&p?* i have a question...
Do you think that since the tour is so big and they already made one some more 'mainstream' media is going to interview d&p about it? something like what the did with the huffington post for the book or the talk with caitlin moran? i'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
I’m having major headcanon right now that while hanging out, Dan decides to show Tyler the “June video”...blue_bear wrote: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:38 pm
Fingers crossed for a collabe!!!
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When tatinof came to Sweden there was 0 publicity. I tried to search for anything in the papers or media in general but there was nothing. Not even a notice among upcoming events and shows. They filled a pretty large venue two nights in a row with fans coming in from all over northern Europe and it wasn't in the media once. I think they just don't care about things they don't understand
Since then I've seen at least some small billboards for shows by Game grumps, Miranda Sings, Jacksepticeye and Markiplier. Hopefully someone will notice this time (my dream is for them to be interviewed on the radio show pp3 with is very pop culture centred but that's probably not going to happen).
Since then I've seen at least some small billboards for shows by Game grumps, Miranda Sings, Jacksepticeye and Markiplier. Hopefully someone will notice this time (my dream is for them to be interviewed on the radio show pp3 with is very pop culture centred but that's probably not going to happen).
This makes me remember that in Denver there was a huge billboard for them right outside of the venue for a few days before the show. I had actually forgotten about tatinof being in town until I saw it (was super surreal to see their faces during a regular day in the city lol)kavat wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:05 am When tatinof came to Sweden there was 0 publicity. I tried to search for anything in the papers or media in general but there was nothing. Not even a notice among upcoming events and shows. They filled a pretty large venue two nights in a row with fans coming in from all over northern Europe and it wasn't in the media once. I think they just don't care about things they don't understand
Since then I've seen at least some small billboards for shows by Game grumps, Miranda Sings, Jacksepticeye and Markiplier. Hopefully someone will notice this time (my dream is for them to be interviewed on the radio show pp3 with is very pop culture centred but that's probably not going to happen).
The tour might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Blah. I disagree they or their management are playing it smart. Maybe they're doing well making the best out of a bad situation, but if the drought is going to be as bad as TATINOF, I feel they are being very careless about their channel in general and also the huge chunk of their dedicated audience that doesn't have the opportunity to see their show.
Current signs aren't encouraging. It's been a while now since Phil said we'd be more involved into the behind the scenes of the show (since they aren't filming a docu about it), but so far we've seen exactly nothing. I start to wonder what kind of 'content' they'll be 'flooding' us with. If a 2 min instagram story or meet and greet pics are "content" in their eyes, that's woefully inadequate for me. Unless things take a turn for the better, I feel like i'm much worse off even than during tatinof.
Liveshows: my fave type of content has been severely limited with no clear engagement to pick the pace up when the tour's over.
Pre-tour video's: content seems to come at a snail's pace with no obvious explanation why. Since they appaz haven't been rehearsing on stage much, i'm skeptical that they are that busy with the planning of the tour. I doubt they're occupying themselves 40hrs/week with planning minute details about it. I hope they prove me wrong and that i'm missing things, but even if all of their time somehow went to planning the tour, at the very least we're not being in involved into the making of the show they way I understood Phil.
The tour itself: is going to be a very long tour and it's unclear if the show is going to be available to watch when it's all over. There's no hint of other things being produced about it.
Idk. It's starting to feel like they just don't care so much about the people that aren't coming. At the very least there's no clear strategy and communication about what viewers and fans can expect during the months of absence. Looks like they are going for the bare minimum, and i'm not sure that bare minimum will suffice to keep people feel connected, let alone grow their audience and channel. A good and smart approach by them and their management bureau would mean that they prepared content long before, gave us more of a perspective and organized the tour in such a way that their regular content didn't have to suffer. I'm not seeing any of that.
It already sort of looks like a step away from the internet and towards doing 'other projects' in other industires ?
They walk a pretty dangerous line imo. They became popular in a very specific medium under specific circumstances.
The moment they morph into conventional entertainers who I don't feel much of a personal connection to, i'm out.
I hope I'm reading the tea leaves wrong.
Blah. I disagree they or their management are playing it smart. Maybe they're doing well making the best out of a bad situation, but if the drought is going to be as bad as TATINOF, I feel they are being very careless about their channel in general and also the huge chunk of their dedicated audience that doesn't have the opportunity to see their show.
Current signs aren't encouraging. It's been a while now since Phil said we'd be more involved into the behind the scenes of the show (since they aren't filming a docu about it), but so far we've seen exactly nothing. I start to wonder what kind of 'content' they'll be 'flooding' us with. If a 2 min instagram story or meet and greet pics are "content" in their eyes, that's woefully inadequate for me. Unless things take a turn for the better, I feel like i'm much worse off even than during tatinof.
Liveshows: my fave type of content has been severely limited with no clear engagement to pick the pace up when the tour's over.
Pre-tour video's: content seems to come at a snail's pace with no obvious explanation why. Since they appaz haven't been rehearsing on stage much, i'm skeptical that they are that busy with the planning of the tour. I doubt they're occupying themselves 40hrs/week with planning minute details about it. I hope they prove me wrong and that i'm missing things, but even if all of their time somehow went to planning the tour, at the very least we're not being in involved into the making of the show they way I understood Phil.
The tour itself: is going to be a very long tour and it's unclear if the show is going to be available to watch when it's all over. There's no hint of other things being produced about it.
Idk. It's starting to feel like they just don't care so much about the people that aren't coming. At the very least there's no clear strategy and communication about what viewers and fans can expect during the months of absence. Looks like they are going for the bare minimum, and i'm not sure that bare minimum will suffice to keep people feel connected, let alone grow their audience and channel. A good and smart approach by them and their management bureau would mean that they prepared content long before, gave us more of a perspective and organized the tour in such a way that their regular content didn't have to suffer. I'm not seeing any of that.
It already sort of looks like a step away from the internet and towards doing 'other projects' in other industires
?They walk a pretty dangerous line imo. They became popular in a very specific medium under specific circumstances.
The moment they morph into conventional entertainers who I don't feel much of a personal connection to, i'm out.
I hope I'm reading the tea leaves wrong.
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That might be what's happening, but we don't really know a lot except for what they've done before to inform us. When they've mentioned playing so much Fortnite or whatever, then they do sound a lot less busy than when they said they were calling or emailing with all these theatres to organise everything themselves, and Dan did say they were due to start rehearsing soon.
They just don't tell us anything until they're good and ready, and I'd love to hear more about what they're doing, for the tour or otherwise, and what goes on behind the scenes for the tour too. I don't know if they hear us saying that, but have good reasons not to let us know anything of the workings behind things. It would be more open and connected rather than weeks go by and then suddenly announcements usually with where and how to buy
It is weird to have said two or three times that they'll be sharing stuff soon and still with just weeks to go, nothing, not even the set designs before the whole thing's ready to tease us with. I was so hyped for that and lately I've been way less into most others I sub to on youtube so I'm ready for whatever they've got.
They just don't tell us anything until they're good and ready, and I'd love to hear more about what they're doing, for the tour or otherwise, and what goes on behind the scenes for the tour too. I don't know if they hear us saying that, but have good reasons not to let us know anything of the workings behind things. It would be more open and connected rather than weeks go by and then suddenly announcements usually with where and how to buy
It is weird to have said two or three times that they'll be sharing stuff soon and still with just weeks to go, nothing, not even the set designs before the whole thing's ready to tease us with. I was so hyped for that and lately I've been way less into most others I sub to on youtube so I'm ready for whatever they've got.
True. We don't know a lot. They can be unpredictable and I'd be the first to say that a highly structured, tightly scheduled approach about things isn't their strong suit. But I'm not sure the current silence implies that they have a lot up their sleeve that they are just to announce if all things are settled. Not when it comes to providing their channels with months and months of content at least.
For example, they were quick to throw out some possible extra shows, and didn't wait for these venues to be confirmed to tell us. If they start 'rehearsing soon', that basically means that throughout the first quarter of the year they haven't. So the preparation seems to be a bit rushed and limited, much like tatinof. Maybe there's barely anything to prepare when it comes to the contents of the show. In that case it would seem to me they have even more of an opportunity to tease us with some things already, and to shoot lots of vids. It's odd to me that they would spend days shooting vids for the tour and not bother with also keeping the current flow of games going though. It's not like they have not managed this before. They do this with gamingmas, and if they wanted to - they could make the spice content flow.
The tour itself will be the litmus test but this just looks so recognizably like the haphazard Dan and Phil style. I generally don't mind their slightly chaotic and inconsistent way of working, but this is a long stretch of time. I wonder if they fully realize that even though they'll be working hard themselves during this tour, the end result could be that their already-not-overflowing-with-regular-content channels will looks like they've taken another gap year. That's an eternity when it comes to youtube.
For example, they were quick to throw out some possible extra shows, and didn't wait for these venues to be confirmed to tell us. If they start 'rehearsing soon', that basically means that throughout the first quarter of the year they haven't. So the preparation seems to be a bit rushed and limited, much like tatinof. Maybe there's barely anything to prepare when it comes to the contents of the show. In that case it would seem to me they have even more of an opportunity to tease us with some things already, and to shoot lots of vids. It's odd to me that they would spend days shooting vids for the tour and not bother with also keeping the current flow of games going though. It's not like they have not managed this before. They do this with gamingmas, and if they wanted to - they could make the spice content flow.
The tour itself will be the litmus test but this just looks so recognizably like the haphazard Dan and Phil style. I generally don't mind their slightly chaotic and inconsistent way of working, but this is a long stretch of time. I wonder if they fully realize that even though they'll be working hard themselves during this tour, the end result could be that their already-not-overflowing-with-regular-content channels will looks like they've taken another gap year. That's an eternity when it comes to youtube.
Finding my own inarticulate prose
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly
I'm genuinely mildly concerned that the 5 hour livestream of a wall MIGHT be considered ample engagement by them. If it wasn't for the fact that I genuinely think their content can be brilliant, I would stop engaging with them. And did during the last tour.
I wish they were more open about their lives because for all I know they could be pulling 70 hour working weeks in preparation for the tour. But because they're not its just radio silence from them and that makes you assume that they're just sat watching films all day. It also doesnt help that there has SO FAR been very little said about the actual tour structure. I'm getting second hand stress from this because the current illusion is that they have no plan for the tour beyond maybe electrocution, hardly any videos this year, if Dan didn't have 6 million+ subs I'd be worried his channel was dead, and therefore it makes it seem like when they are on tour and away from a place to film it is only going to get worse. I'm also kind of worried that this tour is going to be a giant game or Truth or Dare ft Dan and Phil.
I also just had a though; we've all assumed that the tweet from the other day meant a video was going on Dans channel. Phil is due a video in the next week, what if it goes on his channel instead? And the video that is 'in the progress' (WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN) is him talking about interior design or something.
I wish they were more open about their lives because for all I know they could be pulling 70 hour working weeks in preparation for the tour. But because they're not its just radio silence from them and that makes you assume that they're just sat watching films all day. It also doesnt help that there has SO FAR been very little said about the actual tour structure. I'm getting second hand stress from this because the current illusion is that they have no plan for the tour beyond maybe electrocution, hardly any videos this year, if Dan didn't have 6 million+ subs I'd be worried his channel was dead, and therefore it makes it seem like when they are on tour and away from a place to film it is only going to get worse. I'm also kind of worried that this tour is going to be a giant game or Truth or Dare ft Dan and Phil.
I also just had a though; we've all assumed that the tweet from the other day meant a video was going on Dans channel. Phil is due a video in the next week, what if it goes on his channel instead? And the video that is 'in the progress' (WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN) is him talking about interior design or something.
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Yeah, I’m just not worried... I guess I just don’t see a reason to worry that they don’t have the tour under control. Yes, it would have been nice to see little hints of planning by now. Yes, I do think we are due a gaming video and trailer and that when we get both of those it will feel better. But I think they can balance rehearsals, pre-filming and relaxation/personal gaming/midnight toast eating (it’s not even that late considering they claim to stay up until three and eat dinner at ten, but I do get that it’s an odd time to tweet. I just want to know what flavor jam they like.) And hey, if for some reason they haven’t been that on top of things, it sounds like this show lends itself well to improv and they are totally capable of that. Take a deep breath folks. 
Oh hey, look what just showed up on my dash:
Oh hey, look what just showed up on my dash:
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Ok I know they've already filmed probably, but do you think it's too late to demand they seriously film this video instead:
How does anybody live with anybody? I truly don't know. And I will only accept answers from D&P so save it. Like I know they've kind of talked about it before, but mostly in a vague or jokey way ('just buy your own cereal haha') and I want ACTUAL ANSWERS.
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Dan and Phil have said they're busy preparing for the tour and I believe them. They've been in "tour-planning mode" since January and there's much more to a world tour than only rehearsals. Considering this isn't gonna be a theatrical show but every show will be somewhat different, I don't assume they would need months of rehearsals either. You can't really judge how hard they've been working on the tour or not, since they haven't actually shown us much of what they've been doing all this time.
I am getting a bit impatient when it comes to tour details though. They don't need to spoil the entire show and tell us all of their plans but it would be nice if we at least got some hints or some kind of reassurance. Imply that you're pre-recording videos, show a picture of the rehearsals or concept art of the set (which Dan said he'd do in February). I don't see what the point is in saying you're gonna involve your audience in the process of the preparations for the tour and then proceed to show literally nothing. Same thing with the TBC dates, first they said they'd all be released in December, then January, then February etc. and now there's still three dates to be confirmed. I don't blame them for not being able to release them all yet (I understand it must be difficult) but what does annoy me is the fact that they make promises they can't keep and give people false hope. I don't believe those are their intentions at all but maybe they need to stop saying they're going to do stuff which they don't end up doing or which they do quite late. I'm sure they'll start sharing more in the next two weeks (they kinda have to, don't they) but it's just taking so long and with the lack of live shows and the longer breaks between uploads, I'm getting antsy. I also honestly don't care that they apparently were like this before TATINOF as well, just because they did things a certain way back then doesn't mean they should do that now as well, especially if it wasn't well-received at the time either.
I hope there's at least another live show before the tour starts (preferably a joint one), I hope they'll actually use IG Stories more than once and I hope there'll still be regular content, though I can't expect them to upload as frequently as they would if they weren't on tour. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't deliver but I'd love for them to prove me wrong! Anyway, I'll stop beng a negative Nancy now.
I am getting a bit impatient when it comes to tour details though. They don't need to spoil the entire show and tell us all of their plans but it would be nice if we at least got some hints or some kind of reassurance. Imply that you're pre-recording videos, show a picture of the rehearsals or concept art of the set (which Dan said he'd do in February). I don't see what the point is in saying you're gonna involve your audience in the process of the preparations for the tour and then proceed to show literally nothing. Same thing with the TBC dates, first they said they'd all be released in December, then January, then February etc. and now there's still three dates to be confirmed. I don't blame them for not being able to release them all yet (I understand it must be difficult) but what does annoy me is the fact that they make promises they can't keep and give people false hope. I don't believe those are their intentions at all but maybe they need to stop saying they're going to do stuff which they don't end up doing or which they do quite late. I'm sure they'll start sharing more in the next two weeks (they kinda have to, don't they) but it's just taking so long and with the lack of live shows and the longer breaks between uploads, I'm getting antsy. I also honestly don't care that they apparently were like this before TATINOF as well, just because they did things a certain way back then doesn't mean they should do that now as well, especially if it wasn't well-received at the time either.
I hope there's at least another live show before the tour starts (preferably a joint one), I hope they'll actually use IG Stories more than once and I hope there'll still be regular content, though I can't expect them to upload as frequently as they would if they weren't on tour. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't deliver but I'd love for them to prove me wrong! Anyway, I'll stop beng a negative Nancy now.
I’m genuinely not too worried about deppy’s silenece mainly because I feel like something is coming soon, although maybe I’m just dumb and nothing is coming. I personally hate it when YouTubers talk about how busy they are all the time. I used to follow someone and every other tweet was something like so many meetings today or I didn’t have time to do this and then when anything was late and people would complain he would just complain back.
I mean I guess this kind of negates the theory that they have an editor, unless they’ve filmed nothing to be edited. Idk I wasn’t here during the last tour so I don’t know how bad it got but one week since last video isn’t too bad for me. I totally get if people who are just here for the videos are upset though. I do wish they used Instagram stories though. Also in Dan’s last ls he was about to show us the set or something and then was like never mind I’ll wait to show you in a couple of days, well Danny boy I’m ready to see.
I mean I guess this kind of negates the theory that they have an editor, unless they’ve filmed nothing to be edited. Idk I wasn’t here during the last tour so I don’t know how bad it got but one week since last video isn’t too bad for me. I totally get if people who are just here for the videos are upset though. I do wish they used Instagram stories though. Also in Dan’s last ls he was about to show us the set or something and then was like never mind I’ll wait to show you in a couple of days, well Danny boy I’m ready to see.
don't go to sleep on an argumentfancybum wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:19 pm Ok I know they've already filmed probably, but do you think it's too late to demand they seriously film this video instead: How does anybody live with anybody? I truly don't know. And I will only accept answers from D&P so save it. Like I know they've kind of talked about it before, but mostly in a vague or jokey way ('just buy your own cereal haha') and I want ACTUAL ANSWERS.
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That would be really fascinating to hear, but I can’t see them doing it seriously, unfortunately. I think their personalities are ridiculously compatible, not that it doesn’t take work and comprise. And that they are too damn fond of each other. Yeah there might be some yelling and teasing about leaving things open and around and you know cereal stealing shaming. But I don’t think they actually get heated or serious about it and are probably at the point that they just roll their eyes/shake their heads and close those cupboard doors or whatever or tease each other just to get a rise. And just being willing to share so many things... My husband just hates sharing. Food, clothes, even furniture to an extent. He has his chairs and his spots, his blankets and his room (office/toy room). And if god forbid I borrow a hoodie or thermal underwear without asking to shovel the driveway he makes it seem like I’ve completely broken his trust and I feel like a child who has disappointed their parent. I’m sorry TMI I know, but I just don’t see that happening with those two.fancybum wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:19 pm Ok I know they've already filmed probably, but do you think it's too late to demand they seriously film this video instead: How does anybody live with anybody? I truly don't know. And I will only accept answers from D&P so save it. Like I know they've kind of talked about it before, but mostly in a vague or jokey way ('just buy your own cereal haha') and I want ACTUAL ANSWERS.
+1 to a pre-tour joint live show. Let’s hope Dan saying our dreams of one are dead was just cheek.
The answer lies in the yet not fully decrypted "rules" we saw on Dan's piano :mrgreen:fancybum wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:19 pm Ok I know they've already filmed probably, but do you think it's too late to demand they seriously film this video instead: How does anybody live with anybody? I truly don't know. And I will only accept answers from D&P so save it. Like I know they've kind of talked about it before, but mostly in a vague or jokey way ('just buy your own cereal haha') and I want ACTUAL ANSWERS.
The main thing imo is to only live with people you are compatible with. Makes it a lot easier, and just increases your quality of life. Even if you manage to 'get by' living with people strictly on the basis of mutual respect for the 'rules' you agreed on, it still won't be much fun.
Finding my own inarticulate prose
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly
Weirding out strangers and laughing at those
Jaundiced and jaded, postured and posed
Not that we’re special it’s just that we’re
Closing in on a place where we might get to be
Living real people regularly
Excuse me, excuse me, I believe I was quite clear:
(honestly no amount of advice would make me not a nightmare to live with anyway - I just want to know what an actual D&P argument looks like and how they realistically, and specifically, go about their daily lives, not impersonal bullshit advice to apply to generalities that everybody already knows and regurgitates like it means anything)
(honestly no amount of advice would make me not a nightmare to live with anyway - I just want to know what an actual D&P argument looks like and how they realistically, and specifically, go about their daily lives, not impersonal bullshit advice to apply to generalities that everybody already knows and regurgitates like it means anything)
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What? You don't want to hear them say again that an intense Mario Kart throw down solves every argument?fancybum wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:13 pm Excuse me, excuse me, I believe I was quite clear:
(honestly no amount of advice would make me not a nightmare to live with anyway - I just want to know what an actual D&P argument looks like and how they realistically, and specifically, go about their daily lives, not impersonal bullshit advice to apply to generalities that everybody already knows and regurgitates like it means anything)
Only if they then go on to explain what ‘intense Mario Kart throw down’ is a euphemism for. Only then.alittledizzy wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:20 pm What? You don't want to hear them say again that an intense Mario Kart throw down solves every argument?
(And a euphemism doesn’t even need to be a sexual thing you pervs relax)
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*solves every argument over stolen cerealalittledizzy wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:20 pmWhat? You don't want to hear them say again that an intense Mario Kart throw down solves every argument?fancybum wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:13 pm Excuse me, excuse me, I believe I was quite clear:
(honestly no amount of advice would make me not a nightmare to live with anyway - I just want to know what an actual D&P argument looks like and how they realistically, and specifically, go about their daily lives, not impersonal bullshit advice to apply to generalities that everybody already knows and regurgitates like it means anything)
The only thing they really argue about.
i feel like if an inconvenience or disagreement happens between them, they just solve it on the spot and have a calm talk about it and try to find a middle ground.
i don't see them as people who put things on the back burner when it comes to relationships.
i only say this because i've watched almost every interview of them and just years and years of videos, watching how they work together. (but i could be wrong, we only see a little part of their lives)
it might come off as weird by speculating how they deal with differences in their relationship, but it's also a nice page to take out of the book for relationship advice tbh.
commitment sounds terrifying.
i don't see them as people who put things on the back burner when it comes to relationships.
i only say this because i've watched almost every interview of them and just years and years of videos, watching how they work together. (but i could be wrong, we only see a little part of their lives)
it might come off as weird by speculating how they deal with differences in their relationship, but it's also a nice page to take out of the book for relationship advice tbh.
commitment sounds terrifying.
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