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I'm googling entertainer coaches to get an idea of how many they sleep, and of course, there are endless possibilities. But I did find some general info on price: about $1,000 to $1,500 per day.

I'm wondering how many the have in their "crew" that would need to travel with them. Maybe Martyn and Cornelia will have their own coach to carry merch?

I don't see why they would get sick of each other more than usual tbh. They already spend all of their time together in a confined space so the bus is not gonna change too much. Also from a personal experience I have done road trips with friends/family and we didn't get tired of each other. Obviously it depends of the people but they know each other really well at this point and they all seem quite laid-back and easy going (talking about Martyn and Cornelia too) so idk. I don't expect drama.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:but I've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 3 1/2 months in the same 12'sq-ish room, and I'm surviving and mostly keeping sane(!) so you're just going to have to excuse me for the lack of sympathy...!

What happen to you?!

daphenaxa wrote:I don't see why they would get sick of each other more than usual tbh. They already spend all of their time together in a confined space so the bus is not gonna change too much. Also from a personal experience I have done road trips with friends/family and we didn't get tired of each other. Obviously it depends of the people but they know each other really well at this point and they all seem quite laid-back and easy going (talking about Martyn and Cornelia too) so idk. I don't expect drama.

If anything it'll be comforting to have each other with all of the stress of the touring and meet-and-greets. M&C too; familiar faces are a good thing to make abnormal situations feel normal.

Omg are Martyn/Cornelia going to be partying with them in Vegas too? I'm too excited. Imagine if they squeeze in a Vegas hotel liveshow 2.0: now with 100% less mentions of strippers & boobs! :sisterdaniel:

karma_yeah wrote:I'm googling entertainer coaches to get an idea of how many they sleep, and of course, there are endless possibilities. But I did find some general info on price: about $1,000 to $1,500 per day.

I'm wondering how many the have in their "crew" that would need to travel with them. Maybe Martyn and Cornelia will have their own coach to carry merch?

Bare minimum would be merch + tour manager(s) + sound/lighting/production manager/tech(s) (that's pretty much
what most independent artists tour with... though sometimes tour managers can be multi-taskers who know tech stuff as well, eliminating one human in there!). Additional travel crew they may have with them (I'll probably miss something since this is off the top of my head): security of some kind, drivers, assistants/regular management, scout, & actual set up/break down crew. They'll likely have at least two buses: one for them + maybe management + maybe Martyn/Cornelia and one for the rest of the crew (they make sleepers with more beds & less amenities) plus truck(s) for the gear.

daphenaxa wrote:I don't see why they would get sick of each other more than usual tbh. They already spend all of their time together in a confined space so the bus is not gonna change too much. Also from a personal experience I have done road trips with friends/family and we didn't get tired of each other. Obviously it depends of the people but they know each other really well at this point and they all seem quite laid-back and easy going (talking about Martyn and Cornelia too) so idk. I don't expect drama.

I agree with you totally with regards to each other and even Martyn and Cornelia. I'm wondering more about the "crew" (however many that may be). I wouldn't expect they would know them as well, and the amount of "personal space" diminishes with each additional person.

And you're right, they are quite laid-back/easy going, but they are also notorious introverts (for whom social interactions can be draining).

(Realistically, it's only 2 months and quite survivable, but I'm sure there will be challenges).

Question for those who saw TATINOF in the UK: What's the set like? Did it look easy/quick to set up/take down/transport in a van/truck?

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Emma Blackery actually made me laugh oh no:

felucca wrote: And welcome back zvk, omg, I've missed you!

felll my life needed some organized phandom gems to oogle over, woodland creature posts included.

phil isn't too far off the target though, dan really does look reminiscent of a woodland animal. his hair and eyes are both so warm toned that he reminds me of a tiny doe. or a baby fawn. yeah a baby fawn with its gangly legs and no sense of spatial size

phamnotof wrote: So tragic, she didn't say PROTIP.

that's gotta be the worst, that sucks. since dan left before her i wonder if she flew in by herself. no sleep + flying solo sounds like a death sentence of boredom lol

daphenaxa wrote:I don't see why they would get sick of each other more than usual tbh. They already spend all of their time together in a confined space so the bus is not gonna change too much. Also from a personal experience I have done road trips with friends/family and we didn't get tired of each other. Obviously it depends of the people but they know each other really well at this point and they all seem quite laid-back and easy going (talking about Martyn and Cornelia too) so idk. I don't expect drama.

and it can be easy to just retreat to a bunk or put in some headphones if anyone needs space, it might be a little cramped but it'll be their own personal hideaway cave. like illusive gerbils

fancybum wrote: Omg are Martyn/Cornelia going to be partying with them in Vegas too? I'm too excited. Imagine if they squeeze in a Vegas hotel liveshow 2.0: now with 100% less mentions of strippers & boobs! :sisterdaniel:

yes please

karma_yeah wrote: (Realistically, it's only 2 months and quite survivable, but I'm sure there will be challenges).

PHAN FIGHT PHAN FIGHT PHAN FIGHT

daphenaxa wrote:I don't see why they would get sick of each other more than usual tbh. They already spend all of their time together in a confined space so the bus is not gonna change too much.

I really don't think you can compare the stress of the tour and lack of privacy or space in the tour bus/planes to them just spending a lot of time together in their London flat. Technically yeah, they both classify as a confined space... but in London they can easily go to another room or leave the flat whenever they want to be alone.

That being said, of course I'd hope that you're right and my worries won't come true.

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IckleMissMayhem wrote:[offtopic]

akui wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:but I've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 3 months in the same 12'sq-ish room, and I'm surviving and mostly keeping sane(!) so you're just going to have to excuse me for the lack of sympathy...!

What happen to you?!

Short, edited highlights version - I got knocked off my bike the day the first ep of Undertale went up, been in hospital ever since. Lots of broken bones all down my right side, xrays now look like an explosion in a meccano factory(!) - 0/10, strongly do not recommend as a pastime. Massively overrated, but at least healthcare is free here!
Had what I am hoping will be my last surgery a few days ago, now just a crapload of physio so I'm capable of living at home alone (part of the time) again. Explains/excuses my crazy postcount on here, I s'pose...!

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I'm so sorry to hear that IckleMissMayhem and I wish you a speedy recovery. I'll keep you in my thoughts! [/Offtopic]

IckleMissMayhem wrote: [offtopic]

akui wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:but I've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 3 months in the same 12'sq-ish room, and I'm surviving and mostly keeping sane(!) so you're just going to have to excuse me for the lack of sympathy...!

What happen to you?!

Short, edited highlights version - I got knocked off my bike the day the first ep of Undertale went up, been in hospital ever since. Lots of broken bones all down my right side, xrays now look like an explosion in a meccano factory(!) - 0/10, strongly do not recommend as a pastime. Massively overrated, but at least healthcare is free here!
Had what I am hoping will be my last surgery a few days ago, now just a crapload of physio so I'm capable of living at home alone (part of the time) again. Explains/excuses my crazy postcount on here, I s'pose...!

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[offtopic]that's awful! hope you get better soon! [/offtopic]

[offtopic]Thanks guys - I'm getting better, and will fully recover, and that's what matters! [/offtopic]

Personally, I'm hoping Dan uploads a 30-odd mins video that starts with him and Phil saying "Blah blah quick "Hi"/intro, then "WE'RE IN VEGAS!!! HERE'S A VIDEO!" then cuts to black screen for the remainder. I'd be laughing too hard to be angry!

fancybum wrote:Emma Blackery actually made me laugh oh no:

Clearly there's no hope for you.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:
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akui wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:but I've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 3 months in the same 12'sq-ish room, and I'm surviving and mostly keeping sane(!) so you're just going to have to excuse me for the lack of sympathy...!

What happen to you?!

Short, edited highlights version - I got knocked off my bike the day the first ep of Undertale went up, been in hospital ever since. Lots of broken bones all down my right side, xrays now look like an explosion in a meccano factory(!) - 0/10, strongly do not recommend as a pastime. Massively overrated, but at least healthcare is free here!
Had what I am hoping will be my last surgery a few days ago, now just a crapload of physio so I'm capable of living at home alone (part of the time) again. Explains/excuses my crazy postcount on here, I s'pose...!

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I've mentioned this in the past, but I don't mind repeating myself. hahah

I have spent a lot of time in tour buses both as a visitor and living in them for months at a time.

If Deppy are going the traditional tour bus tour of front lounge+bunks+back lounge, there are a couple of things to consider...
When you have a band touring, it's commonplace for all the band members to have the equal sleeping arrangements; everyone in a bunk. Considering this is the D&P tour, which they are financing themselves, paired with a handful of crew members (most likely the majority of the set up crew will be local), it is highly unlikely that they'll be cramming themselves in the mobile coffins (yes, that's what they call them). At 6'3'', they will basically have to spend every night sleeping in the fetal position in order to fit. I can stretch my legs in them, but cannot fully sit up, and I'm 5'5''. My guess honestly, and this again is if they're going traditional tour bus route and not say, more the RV/StarWagon route, is that they'll have a bed lounge in back, and bunks in the center for others. Economically, the wisest choice for them would be to get a traditional 8 or 12-sleeper bunk situation, with all crew (Deppy included) in one bus, with a small hitch off back for merch/stage set-up.
It will be immediately apparent as soon as the first date hits, what bus they got and what the layout/sleeping arrangements are (I almost feel badly for them, if they ARE together, that they'll have to pay more for separate beds, or just sleep in bunks, so the fans don't research the bus layouts and discover only one single queen-sized bed)

Also, tour buses have large bathroom tanks (No #2 ever!) and can go 14+ hours per fuel fill-up, so bathroom and gas breaks don't really need to be factored into travel times

fancybum wrote:Emma Blackery actually made me laugh oh no:

lol if he started suing people, she'd be the 1st one to have to worry

bluntedclaws wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:
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akui wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:but I've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 3 months in the same 12'sq-ish room, and I'm surviving and mostly keeping sane(!) so you're just going to have to excuse me for the lack of sympathy...!

What happen to you?!

Short, edited highlights version - I got knocked off my bike the day the first ep of Undertale went up, been in hospital ever since. Lots of broken bones all down my right side, xrays now look like an explosion in a meccano factory(!) - 0/10, strongly do not recommend as a pastime. Massively overrated, but at least healthcare is free here!
Had what I am hoping will be my last surgery a few days ago, now just a crapload of physio so I'm capable of living at home alone (part of the time) again. Explains/excuses my crazy postcount on here, I s'pose...!

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I've been wondering for a while why you were hospitalized but I didn't like to ask. Sorry to hear about your accident...and happy to hear that your surgeries are finished :therethere:. How much longer do you think you'll be in hospital?

cora808 wrote:I've mentioned this in the past, but I don't mind repeating myself. hahah

I have spent a lot of time in tour buses both as a visitor and living in them for months at a time.

If Deppy are going the traditional tour bus tour of front lounge+bunks+back lounge, there are a couple of things to consider...
When you have a band touring, it's commonplace for all the band members to have the equal sleeping arrangements; everyone in a bunk. Considering this is the D&P tour, which they are financing themselves, paired with a handful of crew members (most likely the majority of the set up crew will be local), it is highly unlikely that they'll be cramming themselves in the mobile coffins (yes, that's what they call them). At 6'3'', they will basically have to spend every night sleeping in the fetal position in order to fit. I can stretch my legs in them, but cannot fully sit up, and I'm 5'5''. My guess honestly, and this again is if they're going traditional tour bus route and not say, more the RV/StarWagon route, is that they'll have a bed lounge in back, and bunks in the center for others. Economically, the wisest choice for them would be to get a traditional 8 or 12-sleeper bunk situation, with all crew (Deppy included) in one bus, with a small hitch off back for merch/stage set-up.
It will be immediately apparent as soon as the first date hits, what bus they got and what the layout/sleeping arrangements are (I almost feel badly for them, if they ARE together, that they'll have to pay more for separate beds, or just sleep in bunks, so the fans don't research the bus layouts and discover only one single queen-sized bed)

Also, tour buses have large bathroom tanks (No #2 ever!) and can go 14+ hours per fuel fill-up, so bathroom and gas breaks don't really need to be factored into travel times

Good info! Thanks!

What about showers/baths?

karma_yeah wrote:
What about showers/baths?

Never a bath (requires too much water), but sometimes they will have showers. I will say from some personal experience that the showers are kind of awful, as there's no water pressure and you can't use much water (it's all on a reserve tank that has to be used for all sink/shower/toilet purposes), so it's basically like showering by holding a lawn hose above your head for a couple minutes.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

fancybum wrote:Emma Blackery actually made me laugh oh no:

Clearly there's no hope for you.

#pray4meh

daphenaxa wrote: lol if he started suing people, she'd be the 1st one to have to worry

She better watch out or DanHowellLimited will be coming for her channel next

[offtopic]paint just uploaded a new video and it's quite similar to dan's how to get out of bed:

dammit i just love jon cozart i think he's a comedic genuis [/offtopic]

So, what's stopping them from doing what they did in GB: just book local hotels/ Airbnb / whatevs as they drive from performance to performance. They could get some sort of bus for them and the crew and still get more comfort for the nights. Plus they get some alone time which i think they much prefer above living together with a bunch of peeps.
I don't think it's that much more expensive to house a small crew in some reasonably priced accommodations.

cora808 wrote:

I've mentioned this in the past, but I don't mind repeating myself. hahah

I have spent a lot of time in tour buses both as a visitor and living in them for months at a time.

If Deppy are going the traditional tour bus tour of front lounge+bunks+back lounge, there are a couple of things to consider...
When you have a band touring, it's commonplace for all the band members to have the equal sleeping arrangements; everyone in a bunk. Considering this is the D&P tour, which they are financing themselves, paired with a handful of crew members (most likely the majority of the set up crew will be local), it is highly unlikely that they'll be cramming themselves in the mobile coffins (yes, that's what they call them). At 6'3'', they will basically have to spend every night sleeping in the fetal position in order to fit. I can stretch my legs in them, but cannot fully sit up, and I'm 5'5''. My guess honestly, and this again is if they're going traditional tour bus route and not say, more the RV/StarWagon route, is that they'll have a bed lounge in back, and bunks in the center for others. Economically, the wisest choice for them would be to get a traditional 8 or 12-sleeper bunk situation, with all crew (Deppy included) in one bus, with a small hitch off back for merch/stage set-up.
It will be immediately apparent as soon as the first date hits, what bus they got and what the layout/sleeping arrangements are (I almost feel badly for them, if they ARE together, that they'll have to pay more for separate beds, or just sleep in bunks, so the fans don't research the bus layouts and discover only one single queen-sized bed)

Also, tour buses have large bathroom tanks (No #2 ever!) and can go 14+ hours per fuel fill-up, so bathroom and gas breaks don't really need to be factored into travel times

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Stakhanov wrote:So, what's stopping them from doing what they did in GB: just book local hotels/ Airbnb / whatevs as they drive from performance to performance. They could get some sort of bus for them and the crew and still get more comfort for the nights. Plus they get some alone time which i think they much prefer above living together with a bunch of peeps.
I don't think it's that much more expensive to house a small crew in some reasonably priced accommodations.

What's stopping them is the tour itinerary. America is very very large. A large chunk of the time in-between dates will need to be used solely for travel time.
There is a possibility on certain dates that they they get a hotel room for one night, or maybe a hotel just to shower/get ready.
But realistically, they won't really have time between dates to perform, break down set, get to hotel room, sleep, wake up, drive to next venue, and set up by soundcheck.

zvk wrote:

cora808 wrote:

I've mentioned this in the past, but I don't mind repeating myself. hahah

I have spent a lot of time in tour buses both as a visitor and living in them for months at a time.

If Deppy are going the traditional tour bus tour of front lounge+bunks+back lounge, there are a couple of things to consider...
When you have a band touring, it's commonplace for all the band members to have the equal sleeping arrangements; everyone in a bunk. Considering this is the D&P tour, which they are financing themselves, paired with a handful of crew members (most likely the majority of the set up crew will be local), it is highly unlikely that they'll be cramming themselves in the mobile coffins (yes, that's what they call them). At 6'3'', they will basically have to spend every night sleeping in the fetal position in order to fit. I can stretch my legs in them, but cannot fully sit up, and I'm 5'5''. My guess honestly, and this again is if they're going traditional tour bus route and not say, more the RV/StarWagon route, is that they'll have a bed lounge in back, and bunks in the center for others. Economically, the wisest choice for them would be to get a traditional 8 or 12-sleeper bunk situation, with all crew (Deppy included) in one bus, with a small hitch off back for merch/stage set-up.
It will be immediately apparent as soon as the first date hits, what bus they got and what the layout/sleeping arrangements are (I almost feel badly for them, if they ARE together, that they'll have to pay more for separate beds, or just sleep in bunks, so the fans don't research the bus layouts and discover only one single queen-sized bed)

Also, tour buses have large bathroom tanks (No #2 ever!) and can go 14+ hours per fuel fill-up, so bathroom and gas breaks don't really need to be factored into travel times

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this is off topic and really dumb, but my only association i have with tour bus bunks are from old bandom days, so whenever i hear about the bus talk all i can imagine is dan and phil doing that thing frank iero did off of lotms, where he jumps bunk to bunk, and every time i just think of dan and phil trying and failing miserably and going straight to the floor. every time

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