They met up with Seth Everman!
Also Phil fell of the stage. He's fine though. Apparently it was more of a slow roll?
Dan and Phil Part 105: Gay 🧡
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"Jacket stolen from husband" *long zoom in*
what do you MEAN by that???
what do you MEAN by that???
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they try so hard to convince us they don't share clothes, yet...parttimehomo wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:55 pm "Jacket stolen from husband" *long zoom in*
what do you MEAN by that???
My take away: the pussy facing the world bit will never stop being funny to me.
Loved the new video! Especially Dan’s pasta story, he almost convinced me I remembered the story wrong!
Also, I’m loving how Phil seems offended when the memes are about them hiding a wedding ring, as if they’d tell the whole world if they got married…
Also, I’m loving how Phil seems offended when the memes are about them hiding a wedding ring, as if they’d tell the whole world if they got married…
Okay, I have a bone to pick with Dan and am just going to call his bullshit at the 17.55 mark when he mentioned the Dublin show. The audience were not horrendously drunk, it was in fact horrendously dry (I was like? Wtf? Am I the only one buying a drink?). I distinctly remember how few people there were in the bar when the venue would normally be buzzing. It's just the one country they will visit that will not fetishize their britishness. Yeah, Dan. The Irish will boo the Queen. You also made a joke about the famine + genocide, caused by the monarchy, and the audience also booed you. Take it on the chin.
There were like two decent outfits total, but even when they're technically competing against each other they can't resist gassing each other up. The only reason that one truly awful look of Phil's didn't get a zero is because Dan thought his hair and eyes made him look "angelic." Buddy you're judging outfits, not how pretty you think your boyfriend is 
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to be fair, I think he liked the queen boo-ing from what it sounds like, at least he did in the "what dnp text each other" video when he talked about it. iirc, he said Ireland was the most fun show he did on tour.000dia000 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:15 pm Okay, I have a bone to pick with Dan and am just going to call his bullshit at the 17.55 mark when he mentioned the Dublin show. The audience were not horrendously drunk, it was in fact horrendously dry (I was like? Wtf? Am I the only one buying a drink?). I distinctly remember how few people there were in the bar when the venue would normally be buzzing. It's just the one country they will visit that will not fetishize their britishness. Yeah, Dan. The Irish will boo the Queen. You also made a joke about the famine + genocide, caused by the monarchy, and the audience also booed you. Take it on the chin.
If this isn't true for all videos where they rate each other based on something subjectiveCatallena wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:30 pm That said, as always they have zero sense of style but are so in love with each other they keep giving each other 4 and 5 stars.
Unlike in that previous outfits video, I wasn't feeling any of these outfits but that doesn't really lessen the enjoyment of the video overall.
I’m not a fashionista by any means so sometimes I question myself when they give something that appears to me to be hideously ugly a 5 star rating
…I’d like them to do a fashion challenge only using thrift store / charity shop clothing items. (1) it would add to the challenge factor. (2) a little less fast fashion, wasteful, y’know (maybe they owned some of those or will continue to wear them afterwards, idk, this isn’t meant to be super negative and critical, it’s just a thought I had)
…I’d like them to do a fashion challenge only using thrift store / charity shop clothing items. (1) it would add to the challenge factor. (2) a little less fast fashion, wasteful, y’know (maybe they owned some of those or will continue to wear them afterwards, idk, this isn’t meant to be super negative and critical, it’s just a thought I had)
I'm having a stress.
Totally same. I donpt get fashion and find a lot of what is in at the moment to just be ugly. So I can't say I understand but dear god, some of those outfits. Like if you're doing it to look strange or be on theme regardless of it it looks nice, that's one thing. But as something to actually wear?Grey wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:54 pm I’m not a fashionista by any means so sometimes I question myself when they give something that appears to me to be hideously ugly a 5 star rating
…I’d like them to do a fashion challenge only using thrift store / charity shop clothing items. (1) it would add to the challenge factor. (2) a little less fast fashion, wasteful, y’know (maybe they owned some of those or will continue to wear them afterwards, idk, this isn’t meant to be super negative and critical, it’s just a thought I had)
And yeah, I was also immediately thinking about how some of these clothes are so horrible they'll likely go straight to landfill. Though in the previous video they said that people will be able to find it in a charity shop, but even a charity shop must eventually just trash stuff that nobody would buy.
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those two photos made me snort
we are eternally blessed to be living in dan and phil's world
wow, what was the joke he made about the famine?000dia000 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:15 pm Okay, I have a bone to pick with Dan and am just going to call his bullshit at the 17.55 mark when he mentioned the Dublin show. The audience were not horrendously drunk, it was in fact horrendously dry (I was like? Wtf? Am I the only one buying a drink?). I distinctly remember how few people there were in the bar when the venue would normally be buzzing. It's just the one country they will visit that will not fetishize their britishness. Yeah, Dan. The Irish will boo the Queen. You also made a joke about the famine + genocide, caused by the monarchy, and the audience also booed you. Take it on the chin.
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Are there other social media couples that are popular because of their PDA?
For the little I know it feels like there are 2 outcomes possible:
1) there's a strong relationship behind and PDA is limited, not the explicit focus and thus couples last: yes a wedding video, husband/boyfriend tag but also LOTS of content where there's no PDA-focused
(Zalfie comes to mind, where Zoe has lots going on beyond Alfie)
2) the relationship balances a lot on views and even if it takes them a couple of years, they usually break up easily
I feel like for DnP, their joint content has always been the most popular and as they start showing some more explicit couple-y things, I wonder how they feel/what are their doing to prepare themselves and prevent themselves from placing their (explicit) relationship into the view-scale. Because you want views and engagement: it makes it more stable financially; it is your career; a way to pay for your lifestyle or even health issues for the wider family.
But the more you show your relationship, the more feels guided by performativity and that's unhealthy, unfair, and will probably lead to a break down.
Or are there couple who showcase their relationship and still do rather well?
For the little I know it feels like there are 2 outcomes possible:
1) there's a strong relationship behind and PDA is limited, not the explicit focus and thus couples last: yes a wedding video, husband/boyfriend tag but also LOTS of content where there's no PDA-focused
(Zalfie comes to mind, where Zoe has lots going on beyond Alfie)
2) the relationship balances a lot on views and even if it takes them a couple of years, they usually break up easily
I feel like for DnP, their joint content has always been the most popular and as they start showing some more explicit couple-y things, I wonder how they feel/what are their doing to prepare themselves and prevent themselves from placing their (explicit) relationship into the view-scale. Because you want views and engagement: it makes it more stable financially; it is your career; a way to pay for your lifestyle or even health issues for the wider family.
But the more you show your relationship, the more feels guided by performativity and that's unhealthy, unfair, and will probably lead to a break down.
Or are there couple who showcase their relationship and still do rather well?
"Couples channels" or couples whose social media presence/livelihood is based entirely on their romantic relationships are almost across the board doomed to fail, in my opinion. Or at least doomed to go through some really rough periods, because it's just not sustainable or healthy. When the content is all about your relationship, your relationship becomes all about the content.
On the flip side, you have couples like Safiya and her husband Tyler, or SimplyNailogical and her partner Ben, whose relationships are certainly a part of their appeal, but they're not the reason for their channels. They're just couples who do fun or interesting things on YouTube and happen to be relatively open about their relationship in the process. (I feel like these are old examples because neither are as active anymore as dnp, but you get what I'm saying)
Idk if dnp will ever get to a point where they're as transparent as Safiya and Tyler, but that would be the safest and probably healthiest way of going about it if they do.
On the flip side, you have couples like Safiya and her husband Tyler, or SimplyNailogical and her partner Ben, whose relationships are certainly a part of their appeal, but they're not the reason for their channels. They're just couples who do fun or interesting things on YouTube and happen to be relatively open about their relationship in the process. (I feel like these are old examples because neither are as active anymore as dnp, but you get what I'm saying)
Idk if dnp will ever get to a point where they're as transparent as Safiya and Tyler, but that would be the safest and probably healthiest way of going about it if they do.
It's Dil's 10th birthday today! 
This made me think about how there'll never be another DNP because a huge reason they're popular is because of the mystery (we joke "Which mystery? lol" but let's be honest here for a sec). Sure they're a famous couple, but it's the years of trying to find secrets and wondering what comes next that makes "Phan" so popular. We (as humans) crave for a good mystery. So much adrenaline! Every time a new display of affection is seen it's a huge deal exactly because they're so rare and we never know when they're coming. Ironically or not (and I would even dare say sometime the irony comes out to hide genuine excitement) the times the phandom is most active are when they say something about their relationship and we are like "Ha! They said the thing!".Levitating wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:44 pm Are there other social media couples that are popular because of their PDA?
We built this fandom on phan proof and it's too late to pretend otherwise
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This is the kind of speculation I'm very interested in. How would things be different if they were openly gay and in a relationship the whole time? Would people care less if there was no mystery? Or would people enjoy it the same amount? They're such a unique case that there is nobody to compare to them and draw any possible conclusions from.
Personally, I never watched them because I wanted them to be in a relationship or wanted to uncover the truth. I enjoyed their solo content and their joint content (obviously) but for a few initial years mostly avoided interactions with the phandom because their relationship and "phan proof" is what most people focused on and I was too old for that shit even then and found a lot of fans' behavior cringe at best.
It feels different now because all the posts people make about them now feel more light hearted and Dan and Phil themselves poke fun at these things rather than desperately try to convince us that it's not true. So that makes it all more relaxed and fun.
And I wonder how things would be different if there ever is a straight up "yes, we're together" kind of confirmation. Because while we all believe it, we kid ourselves if we think we wouldn't die if they said that The tone of their videos shifted from when they weren't openly gay to now when they are, so what kind of shift would it be if they were openly in a relationship? Who knows?
I saw a post recently about how in a video Phil made with PJ while Dan was on tour Phil was so casually affectionate with PJ and hugged him and how that's something we don't see between DnP. There have been a lot of shoulder touches and such in the recent months but a lot of their touches are still accompanies by "OMG they touched!" to make fun of it before the fans can. Would that ever change?
It's all so unpredictable because 10 years ago who would think we would be where we are now?
Personally, I never watched them because I wanted them to be in a relationship or wanted to uncover the truth. I enjoyed their solo content and their joint content (obviously) but for a few initial years mostly avoided interactions with the phandom because their relationship and "phan proof" is what most people focused on and I was too old for that shit even then and found a lot of fans' behavior cringe at best.
It feels different now because all the posts people make about them now feel more light hearted and Dan and Phil themselves poke fun at these things rather than desperately try to convince us that it's not true. So that makes it all more relaxed and fun.And I wonder how things would be different if there ever is a straight up "yes, we're together" kind of confirmation. Because while we all believe it, we kid ourselves if we think we wouldn't die if they said that
The tone of their videos shifted from when they weren't openly gay to now when they are, so what kind of shift would it be if they were openly in a relationship? Who knows? I saw a post recently about how in a video Phil made with PJ while Dan was on tour Phil was so casually affectionate with PJ and hugged him and how that's something we don't see between DnP. There have been a lot of shoulder touches and such in the recent months but a lot of their touches are still accompanies by "OMG they touched!" to make fun of it before the fans can. Would that ever change?
It's all so unpredictable because 10 years ago who would think we would be where we are now?
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So do you guys think that once they are explicit, they will lose their appeal?
I myself initially thought that, but I've been recently caught up in couple content on TikTok which is so endearing and romantic that it just makes you want to see more. At times it's so cute that you end up thinking that there must be at least some slices of performance, but thinking that it is also a bit mean itself. Why doubt?
However, it is the same thought that has made me wonder about DnP and the PDA on a views-scale.
I remember at the time a touch, a 'phan proof' would get so much engagement on Tumblr whenever it happened and fan-content is basically free publicity for the creators (as these TikTokers have also admitted, saying how they used to have to do so much to promote their channels and how grateful they are that the fan content lets me focus more on their production over promotion)
And with all the data that Youtube itself gives, DnP know exactly which bits of video create the most engagement. It's not a straight-forward formula, otherwise everyone would be able to thrive on it, but definitely something that tells them "look, when you show (hints of)PDA, people watch for longer, click on your ads, increase your profits"
But DnP haven't built their fandom on PDA - but on the lack of it and glimpses of it AND on their own sense of humour, creativity, hard work.
Now that they are moving into more explicit exposure of their relationship, 'whatever' that it, how do they navigate its 'commercialisation'?
It's a huge responsibility for a relationship.
They're exploiting it in a fun way for now, which they totally deserve, but it's already touching those delicate chords of commercialisation because while lots of it is 'a joke', if we do believe they are a couple, lots of it is also true PDA.
That's why I was asking whether there are other couples who are doing a similar thing but thriving. Publicly together, PDA as a huge factor of their success, but still rather stable. That would give me hope for DnP to also succeed!
Their appeal does get from PDA, but they're so much more. They're just hilarious.
I myself initially thought that, but I've been recently caught up in couple content on TikTok which is so endearing and romantic that it just makes you want to see more. At times it's so cute that you end up thinking that there must be at least some slices of performance, but thinking that it is also a bit mean itself. Why doubt?
However, it is the same thought that has made me wonder about DnP and the PDA on a views-scale.
I remember at the time a touch, a 'phan proof' would get so much engagement on Tumblr whenever it happened and fan-content is basically free publicity for the creators (as these TikTokers have also admitted, saying how they used to have to do so much to promote their channels and how grateful they are that the fan content lets me focus more on their production over promotion)
And with all the data that Youtube itself gives, DnP know exactly which bits of video create the most engagement. It's not a straight-forward formula, otherwise everyone would be able to thrive on it, but definitely something that tells them "look, when you show (hints of)PDA, people watch for longer, click on your ads, increase your profits"
But DnP haven't built their fandom on PDA - but on the lack of it and glimpses of it AND on their own sense of humour, creativity, hard work.
Now that they are moving into more explicit exposure of their relationship, 'whatever' that it, how do they navigate its 'commercialisation'?
It's a huge responsibility for a relationship.
They're exploiting it in a fun way for now, which they totally deserve, but it's already touching those delicate chords of commercialisation because while lots of it is 'a joke', if we do believe they are a couple, lots of it is also true PDA.
That's why I was asking whether there are other couples who are doing a similar thing but thriving. Publicly together, PDA as a huge factor of their success, but still rather stable. That would give me hope for DnP to also succeed!
Their appeal does get from PDA, but they're so much more. They're just hilarious.
I have a few thoughts that are kind of connected but I’m not sure how to connect them.
1. Their recent photos do not suggest to me a new era where they’re commodifying their relationship/ doing PDA for clicks. Actually, from my recollection, in the past they used to post similar types of photos. I’m thinking of during tatinof. I know they didn’t post a lot because they were doing the photo book (which is full of similar types of joint photos of them), but they did post for example a joint photo of them on the Niagara Falls boat. I remember because people lost their minds about how coupley it was. So to me, that series of photos they just posted is NOT really “new” for them and to me it doesn’t represent a change in them suddenly becoming a couples channel. I am sure they know people like their joint content but I think they also post it because they genuinely just spend a lot of time together so that’s mainly what they have to post.
2. (With the caveat that I have not seen tit) I find this era of DnP less anxiety-inducing than previous eras, because to me it feels like they’re more in control and more calm than they were in the past. Obviously they’ve always been control freaks, but it feels like their public relationship is on their terms now, whereas before it was kind of a runaway train. It seems to me that after Dan came out, he wanted to step back from the joint branding, he went on his own tour, they posted less joint content, etc. Perhaps that was in part due to concerns about how him being openly gay would change the way his relationship with Phil was perceived. As he stated, they consider themselves “private people”. So my interpretation of the rebrand is they had time to regroup and intentionally decide how to go forward… meaning, they’ve decided what their boundaries are and what they’re comfortable with having on camera- they managed to take control of it.
3. I feel like you can’t compare them to couples channels because (at least in my in opinion) that’s something they would never do and therefore they’re just fundamentally different from people who do do that. Plus their content has never been about being a couple. And frankly it appears that a lot of couples like each other less than DnP like each other. I don’t think you can fake what they have because people try and you can tell those people don’t really enjoy each other’s company. (Also DnP aren’t even particularly good actors!!!) Obviously, it’s social media, it’s a highlight reel, etc etc. yeah. But. I believe they genuinely enjoy being around each other. And I do not believe that about many other people. And it’s also why I think people are staying around / will stay around without the mystery element (in addition to them just being amusing, which is also a big reason). They don’t need that for it to be interesting- their dynamic is still interesting and appealing without the mystery (not arguing that mystery wasn’t part of the intrigue, but just that it’s not required).
Hope all that makes sense!
1. Their recent photos do not suggest to me a new era where they’re commodifying their relationship/ doing PDA for clicks. Actually, from my recollection, in the past they used to post similar types of photos. I’m thinking of during tatinof. I know they didn’t post a lot because they were doing the photo book (which is full of similar types of joint photos of them), but they did post for example a joint photo of them on the Niagara Falls boat. I remember because people lost their minds about how coupley it was. So to me, that series of photos they just posted is NOT really “new” for them and to me it doesn’t represent a change in them suddenly becoming a couples channel. I am sure they know people like their joint content but I think they also post it because they genuinely just spend a lot of time together so that’s mainly what they have to post.
2. (With the caveat that I have not seen tit) I find this era of DnP less anxiety-inducing than previous eras, because to me it feels like they’re more in control and more calm than they were in the past. Obviously they’ve always been control freaks, but it feels like their public relationship is on their terms now, whereas before it was kind of a runaway train. It seems to me that after Dan came out, he wanted to step back from the joint branding, he went on his own tour, they posted less joint content, etc. Perhaps that was in part due to concerns about how him being openly gay would change the way his relationship with Phil was perceived. As he stated, they consider themselves “private people”. So my interpretation of the rebrand is they had time to regroup and intentionally decide how to go forward… meaning, they’ve decided what their boundaries are and what they’re comfortable with having on camera- they managed to take control of it.
3. I feel like you can’t compare them to couples channels because (at least in my in opinion) that’s something they would never do and therefore they’re just fundamentally different from people who do do that. Plus their content has never been about being a couple. And frankly it appears that a lot of couples like each other less than DnP like each other. I don’t think you can fake what they have because people try and you can tell those people don’t really enjoy each other’s company. (Also DnP aren’t even particularly good actors!!!) Obviously, it’s social media, it’s a highlight reel, etc etc. yeah. But. I believe they genuinely enjoy being around each other. And I do not believe that about many other people. And it’s also why I think people are staying around / will stay around without the mystery element (in addition to them just being amusing, which is also a big reason). They don’t need that for it to be interesting- their dynamic is still interesting and appealing without the mystery (not arguing that mystery wasn’t part of the intrigue, but just that it’s not required).
Hope all that makes sense!
I'm having a stress.