Dan & Phil Part 56: Phanthony! at the Disco

[somebodyelse]

Yeah, Dan apparently opted out of talking about the week in March.

And I already call it that he won't do a liveshow next week at all which makes me extra curious to see if Phil streams Thursday. Also, another 45 minute liveshow? I feel like this is the new normal for Dan, he hasn't done an hour long one in two months.

IDK, somehow this makes me really sad. Both in the way that I fear that we are too much of a nuisance so he thinks this step is neccessary, but also that he literally bans something he has mentioned twice as something he might talk about, and then taking away our option to ask about it. What would lead him to not even just haru-ing it, but straight out banning the words and deleting comments that cost people money? I guess I am sad he's uncomfortable with it. IDK, going to bed now

(Please forgive my ignorance, but what currency was that superchat & how much is 200 of it?)

I'm pretty sure its Indian rupee, and google tells me its about 3 usd.

[tyhane]

Some random word vomit about the liveshow:
I'm assuming he just isn't ready to tell us about the week in March yet for whatever reason. And I mean it's not like people are spamming him about a throwaway comment he accidentally made, he specifically said to ask him about it. (I've seen a good amount of people saying that Dan might be upset/annoyed with people asking about it which I don't really agree with, though anything's possible.) I could see him blacklisting the phrase, if he did, as a way of just keeping the chat more clear, since he wouldn't be talking about it anyway.

I have the exact same confusion that I did the last time he did a ls in his room... of why in the world he would choose to do it in there of all places. Especially since he did it on his phone, so he wouldn't have to worry about having to set his laptop up somewhere. Plus doing a little pan around the room like he did last time... Didn't he say in some ls when they first moved in that they wanted to have the upstairs as a private place and use the downstairs for filming? I could be completely remembering wrong. I'm not complaining though.

Ending earlier than an hour seems to be a pattern with these phone liveshows. When he announced that he would be moving his shows to 9:30 for GBBO, I kind of wondered if he was trying to have an excuse to do shorter liveshows. Like, it would be less noticeable to end earlier than 10:30, at 10:15 or something, than to start at 9:00 end at 9:45 or whatever. Yes, I'm pessimistic lol. I guess 10-15 minutes really doesn't make that big a difference, but eh.

When he was talking about the dinof vid he's thinking of making, my first thought went to a mental health one like he mentioned in the last (or one before) liveshow. I'm neutral towards the idea, though he'd have to be careful. I love when he talks openly about his mental health in his liveshows, but it's a pretty delicate subject and it would be very easy to come across wrongly and upset people. (Specifically I'm thinking of what could go wrong if he made it more general and advice-y as opposed to focused on HIS struggles/issues. Not saying I personally would be bothered by it, just that I can picture it bothering others.) Of course he might have been talking about a completely different video idea.

Curious why the heck he didn't tweet it. Guess it's possible he legitimately forgot. Also, basically meaningless, but iirc this is the first time he's sponned the liveshow recording on Tumblr?

As for the actual content of the liveshow, I quite enjoyed it. (Honestly I'm not that invested in the "that week in March" speculation anyway, because at the end of the day there's nothing that can be done beside waiting for if/when he explains it.) The moon room makes for such an aesthetically pleasing background, man. Halloween baking confirmed, yesss. The story of the Youtuber asking for Phil's Whatsapp made me laugh. I'm torn on whether I'd want him to do a viewers pick my outfit vid as well. Though I am very down for him using dini for things that don't fit his ~quality threshold~ for dinof. (unironic candle haul he keeps teasing? ) Oh, and he mentioned Phil quite a bit which is always nice.

[casualIDBstalker]

That's the thing the phandom always seems to do....they take a comment that was mentioned & hold onto it for dear life.
Inundating someone with a question or questions that they didn't answer or ignored in the past shouldn't continually be asked.

Just being a fan & watching the same questions being asked all the time is really annoying so I can only imagine how annoying it is for them. Dan makes lists & writes out bullet points to cover in his LSs so since he hasn't brought it (that week in March) up himself, it's obvious that he doesn't want to talk about it, at least not yet (if ever). He's not one to forget especially because the phans wouldn't ever let him forget.

I sometimes can't believe how pushy people are about wanting more from Dan & Phil. They have given us so much already; merch, a tour, books, almost weekly live streams, individual channel videos, gaming videos & recently live gaming streams but that's just not enough for some people so I wonder where exactly is that line? When is enough enough? When will people realize that we get so much more from them than most get from others? I adore Dan and Phil, I respect them & their privacy, I respect them enough to know that they share what they are comfortable sharing & I also know not to hang on every single thing they say, not because they are being shady but because they have a right to change their minds about things.

I take everything they say with a grain of salt. They have to keep people interested, so in a way, they lead people on with comments & actions - we always want more. They act domestic just enough, they tease/bant just to that point of "no they didn't", " that was so cute", "what!?!" because it keeps people coming back & wanting to see a little more or to see how far they'll take it the next time. They are smart guys that give just enough & we should be happy with that.

I'm not aiming this at anyone & this isn't meant to be nasty, it's just a rant.

[alch]

Curious why the heck he didn't tweet it. Guess it's possible he legitimately forgot. Also, basically meaningless, but iirc this is the first time he's sponned the liveshow recording on Tumblr?

He probably just forgot to tweet it.
I think this is the first time he's put his liveshow on tumblr since he started doing them on youtube instead of younow, but he used to have all of his streams up on his tumblr

[FandomLurker]

I SO hope he did forget to tweet which may be weird but them tweeting their ls has always had a weird thing in my head. Like, Phil and Dan always make this elaborate tweet moment in their live shows and say I always forget to tweet haha. But I always feel like the never forget and even though I get why they do it, and why they wait until the ls is happening I still always think about them not actually forgetting. So if he forgot today it kinda feels cosmic.

In relation to their views, I just realized I still have not gotten one about his LS. I wonder if there is something going on from youtube end regarding reflecting actual amount of views and/or alerts and notifications. It makes me kinda wonder how D + P feel about their views.

[apathy]

I have the exact same confusion that I did the last time he did a ls in his room... of why in the world he would choose to do it in there of all places. Especially since he did it on his phone, so he wouldn't have to worry about having to set his laptop up somewhere. Plus doing a little pan around the room like he did last time... Didn't he say in some ls when they first moved in that they wanted to have the upstairs as a private place and use the downstairs for filming? I could be completely remembering wrong. I'm not complaining though.

If that floor contains (as currently suspected as best I recall from earlier speculation and guessing), the lounge with Dan's nook, the kitchen with Phil's LS dining table, the moon room, and (probably) a bathroom... there's not much other place he could do it on that floor. The lounge is connected to the nook/kitchen, so you'd still hear the tv. And this is Dan, so honestly, if he was just in the lounge and was planning to return to it or the kitchen afterward, I wouldn't put it past him to do it in the moon room just to avoid walking downstairs.

(Same, tbh.)

Also, he specifically said he wasn't going to tweet it.

[onetruetrash]

That's the thing the phandom always seems to do....they take a comment that was mentioned & hold onto it for dear life.
Inundating someone with a question or questions that they didn't answer or ignored in the past shouldn't continually be asked.

Just being a fan & watching the same questions being asked all the time is really annoying so I can only imagine how annoying it is for them. Dan makes lists & writes out bullet points to cover in his LSs so since he hasn't brought it (that week in March) up himself, it's obvious that he doesn't want to talk about it, at least not yet (if ever). He's not one to forget especially because the phans wouldn't ever let him forget.

I sometimes can't believe how pushy people are about wanting more from Dan & Phil. They have given us so much already; merch, a tour, books, almost weekly live streams, individual channel videos, gaming videos & recently live gaming streams but that's just not enough for some people so I wonder where exactly is that line? When is enough enough? When will people realize that we get so much more from them than most get from others? I adore Dan and Phil, I respect them & their privacy, I respect them enough to know that they share what they are comfortable sharing & I also know not to hang on every single thing they say, not because they are being shady but because they have a right to change their minds about things.

I take everything they say with a grain of salt. They have to keep people interested, so in a way, they lead people on with comments & actions - we always want more. They act domestic just enough, they tease/bant just to that point of "no they didn't", " that was so cute", "what!?!" because it keeps people coming back & wanting to see a little more or to see how far they'll take it the next time. They are smart guys that give just enough & we should be happy with that.

I'm not aiming this at anyone & this isn't meant to be nasty, it's just a rant.

Can you really blame people for being curious and confused? It's not just some random offhanded comment, Dan said that he was gonna explain what happened in August and then he said he was gonna explain it this month and now all of a sudden he backs out. Of course people wanna know what happened. I also haven't seen anyone demanding answers, despite their curiosity. I've only seen people saying stuff like "I'm really curious but we have to respect their privacy guys". You're pretty much just preaching to the choir.

[Afunnyworld]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

[malday]

and this is the person who sent that message:

I guess yt has the advantage over younow of blacklisting phrases.

Scratch that, this was the person who sent the message.

I think you can blacklist superchat only.

[onetruetrash]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

[sarmstr2]

and this is the person who sent that message:

I guess yt has the advantage over younow of blacklisting phrases.

Scratch that, this was the person who sent the message.

I think you can blacklist superchat only.

Maybe that's why he likes doing the YouTube chats. Can you black list on YouNow?

[goldenmermaid]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

Would dan really use his own username? I feel like he uses reddit a lot and he'd want it to be private... like, there were already people on that thread questioning if it was 'the' dan, but who knows, maybe he doesnt care

[tyhane]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

Would dan really use his own username? I feel like he uses reddit a lot and he'd want it to be private... like, there were already people on that thread questioning if it was 'the' dan, but who knows, maybe he doesnt care

Unless this was a weird fever dream... didn't Dan say in a LS (I think an old one, like 2012/13) that he took the danisnotonfire account but used a different one for actually posting and stuff? So it might be possible that it's actually him and he forgot to switch accounts. Though I don't know why he'd be on it in the first place, because it seems like he'd just take it then leave it to rot so nobody could use it and pretend to be him. Don't see a reason why he'd ever log back onto it.

[Ilovethemohyesido]

In the shoe rack, aren't those Phil's sneakers that Martyn got him? The gray ones?

[riperoni]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

Would dan really use his own username? I feel like he uses reddit a lot and he'd want it to be private... like, there were already people on that thread questioning if it was 'the' dan, but who knows, maybe he doesnt care

Unless this was a weird fever dream... didn't Dan say in a LS (I think an old one, like 2012/13) that he took the danisnotonfire account but used a different one for actually posting and stuff? So it might be possible that it's actually him and he forgot to switch accounts. Though I don't know why he'd be on it in the first place, because it seems like he'd just take it then leave it to rot so nobody could use it and pretend to be him. Don't see a reason why he'd ever log back onto it.

Reddit allows you to easily create throwaway accounts or other private ones so hed easily be able to switch accounts for privacy

[Ewok]

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

Would dan really use his own username? I feel like he uses reddit a lot and he'd want it to be private... like, there were already people on that thread questioning if it was 'the' dan, but who knows, maybe he doesnt care

I think there's a pretty high chance that's "the" (lol) Dan's public Reddit account. The fact that it's 6 years old does it for me. What rando in 2011 was trolling around as Dan on Reddit? I'd imagine he created accounts to secure the 'dinof' username on as many large websites as he could think of as he started to gain a larger audience. I'd probably do the same.

Dunno how many IDB users are on Reddit... for the uninitiated, alts / "throwaway" accounts on Reddit are super common. Reddit doesn't require an email address to sign up, so you can pretty quickly create some junk throwaway acct and get to posting right away.

I've used Reddit since around the same time and have used countless throwaways for personal things I didn't want my name/main account attached to. I'd imagine for anything personal or incriminating, he'd use a throwaway account.

[captainspacecoat]

That was a really nice liveshow in my opinion, I'm in bed with the flu and it was exactly what I needed. I love that October is his favourite month, I loved the way he so enthusiastically talked about Phil's fashion video, and I loved the little anecdote about the two of them having their first autumnal drinks of the season.

Despite the fact that the youtube livestreams are shorter and less likely to provide opportunity to talk extensively about various topics than younow livestreams, I find that Dan always seems much calmer in them, and more at ease with himself or something. Less on edge. It's nice, and I'd actually be happy for him to continue with them, maybe with the odd younow stream every now and again.

Re: week in March - I think it's totally fair that people want him to talk about it, given that Dan himself was the person who told us to ask him about it. He wouldn't have said that if he didn't ever want to talk about it, so I imagine his decision to (presumably) blacklist it in the superchat/avoid talking about it at all was less out of annoyance at the topic and more out of being unable to tell us about it just yet. It's only early October, could be that he can't talk about it until later in the month, or it could even be that he has to delay telling us yet again. I don't think there's any need to be worried that Dan's mad or annoyed by people wanting to know about it, nor is there any need to reprimand people for incessantly asking about it, given that Dan himself is the person to have a) brought up the topic in the first place and b)specifically told us to ask him for details about it in the future.

Re: moon room - I was surprised he streamed from his room again, I definitely would have thought he'd just stream from the gaming room again or something if he couldn't be in the living area. I don't think the straighteners are sufficient evidence of Phil sleeping in that room (although, I think he probably does anyway), just because it's possible that Dan does use the straighteners to style his hair (my hair is the same texture as Dan's and I use straighteners to define my curls sometimes), and it's also possible that he does straighten his hair from time to time (it looked straighter than usual at the Jaguar event, for example). That doesn't mean I don't believe Phil also sleeps in that room (I actually do), just that the straighteners aren't sufficient evidence of that.

Re: future new vid - I also think it's likely he's seriously thinking of doing a mental health video, given that he's mentioned it recently and he talked about how it's a video that deserves to be undertaken with care. He again talked genuinely about his own mental health, it does seem that he's more comfortable lately being open about his experience with agoraphobia, and I'm glad he feels able to talk about that I have a feeling he'll bail on the mental health video (or whatever it is) and the next vid will be an ISG, and if that's the case I honestly won't be mad as it's been nearly seven months since the last one, and so long as he's not churning them out on a monthly basis I don't mind them that much.

20:15 in the LS Dan talks about Guild wars 2, and how he's addicted to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/co ... _complete/
Dan's Reddit confirmed?

I actually found that account last week or something, but thought nothing of it for whatever reason. Maybe it is him?

Did we not talk about that account on here just recently, or did I make that up? I think we came to the consensus that it's probably not him as surely he'd want to keep that aspect of his internet life secret and inconspicuous. I mean, it might be him, but it almost seems a bit too obvious.

[fancybum]

Phil and Misc Watch 2017
~*/- Autumn Daniel iS HERE!!11 -*’~ (Oct 3, 2017)

Prompted Phil Mention

14:36 (chat) I had a dream that Phil threw a party and locked me in a pantry
“Phil would probably accidentally lock someone in a pantry and then kill them, not sure about that”

19:20 (chat) Don’t spoil It
“Don’t worry! I’m not gonna spoil it”
(chat) Phil spoiled It so much
“Honestly. What a terrible human being.”
-psst. spoiler:

there’s a clown

33:45 (chat) What was your favourite outfit?
“Of Phil’s, the dungarees was the coolest”

Unprompted Phil Mention

0:15 “So currently in the world of Dan, I have been kicked out of my own living room because Phil Lester is watching a tv show called Doctor Foster”

2:30 “I actually had my first latte today. I know, right? Culturally important. I’m not someone that really cares about festive lattes, but Mr. Philip Lester, the Amazing, is very passionate about his sugar. He’s a terrible friend, really really bad influence, generally, in life. So that’s his priorities.”

18:05 (about It) “It’s actually a really good movie. I’m a big horror fan, you know, Phil and I, and various friends we have, like Marzia, big fans of horror movies”

32:45 (chat) What’s your favourite accent to speak in?
“I like making fun of Phil’s northern accent, I’m sure I’m allowed to do that, probably not”

Neutral Phil Mention

8:10 “In the most important things that have been happening in the world: who watched the video on AmazingPhil that I was a part of, where I helped Phil with some fashion? That was a thing.”
9:19 “So Phil- lots of people have done this idea where basically, you let your audience suggest outfits for you to buy, which is quite funny, ‘cause if you put anything in the power of a YTer’s audience, they’ll usually troll you and just destroy you, and it’ll just be a terrible idea. But a lot of people really just desperately want to help people who don’t know how to dress properly”
9:50 “And Phil thought that it would be funnier if he was doing this video [to have Dan choose the outfits so he would be surprised by the choices]”
“So I went on twitter and looked at what some of you guys were tweeting at Phil- if you haven’t seen this, go on youtube.com/amazingphil”
10:47 “But yeah, I think that Phil really rocked the burgundy beanie”

11:10 (chat) Loved the white jeans
“Yeah”
“Phil kept it”
“In the video, I was like, as payment for helping Phil film/curate/edit this video, I’m gonna steal the jeans. And in the video Phil was like ‘no I want to keep them’ but Phil since looked at the video and realized that they had like kneepads and thought they were too weird and doesn’t want them anymore. So to everybody that was saying ‘keep the outfit Phil’, sorry, he’s too scared, he’s too scared. Phil has a comfort line and that line is lines on his knee apparently”

11:50 (chat) What other ones did Phil keep?
“Phil kept like a yellow tshirt, the shoes, maybe the beanie, and I think one other thing”

22:50 “All the British people bailed [on the Creator Summit]. I was coming to this thinking, ‘all right it’s ok’ I saw that Bertie Gilbert was gonna go, Tomska, loads of people were invited. Literally it was me, Phil, Joe, and Caspar.”

25:25 “There was some vloggers from Dubai”
“This guy came up to Phil and was like 'I am #2 most popular vlogger in Dubai, here’s my channel [and showed it on his phone]' and was like, ‘Phil, give me your WhatsApp’ and Phil was like, ‘I don’t have WhatsApp’, which to be fair, he actually doesn’t, so he didn’t have to lie to get out of the situation. But, terrifying. Like most YTers these days are confident, functional, extroverted people. Honestly, I’m so scared (laughs) of situations like this. So to meet two nice people, like Greg and Mitch, and to have Anthony to hang out with, it was really very necessary”

29:00 (after discussing the weirdness of existing as an internet entertainer: “my whole world is in my head”, and not getting out much/being afraid to) “It’s really good for me to go to any kind of YT convention, or like when we did our tour, because it makes me realize what I’m actually doing. Like when me and Phil, we went on our tour, the best thing about when we did tatinof was just getting to see you in real life, [instead of just tweeting/filming things etc], actually doing those things and seeing an interaction and having fun with people in person; that’s real life, and that’s sometimes good for you in the balance, you know what I mean?”

29:55 (chat) ‘Phil and I’
“Oh god, here we go”

30:16 “Me and Phil, we honestly—Phil and I, jesus christ—we think about it a lot, like tatinof was great, it was definitely a great opportunity for us to show off, because it was such an immense, big theatrical production, but it just meant that there were lots of places we couldn’t go. There’s people in New Zealand, there’s people in Russia, I would love to see you one day.”
-IRL or Flipside tour thing ahoy

35:16 (“””chat””” more like Dan’s notes) When is the next danisnotonfire video?
“Soon. I mean, I was helping Phil make his”
“There’s a video that for a while I thought I was gonna make, and I might try to make it for Monday or maybe Tuesday. It’s one that I really have to think about how I write it, and it’s like (sighs), [doesn’t want to make a cringe/pretentious video like he’s taking himself too seriously] but if it’s like something that could benefit from being treated in a nice way, I don’t know, or just make it like a typical funny Dan video, there’s so much to think about”
-it’s a video choosing his fursona, he’s mentioned it enough (oh shit, Viewers Pick My Fursona)

36:16 (chat) It’s okay, do it Dan
“Thank you, okay, I’ll do the video, that’s good. Or I might do another one. If this doesn’t work out, I’ll make something else”
-Taking Quizzes About Myself 2: Electric Boogaloo

38:10 “Battle Cats- I’m sure you watched that video on DanAndPhilGAMES”

Miscellaneous

3:55 (chat) Are you gonna do a baking video?
“I think so. I wasn’t sure about it, ‘cause it’s not like I always want to do a baking video. But I’ve seen a recipe that’s very exciting to me, and I’ve seen an item of clothing which is exciting me, so”
-please be some kind of pumpkin onesie

7:05 (about changing to spooky twitter name) “When is it acceptable to do this though? ‘Cause I feel like a lot of people really embrace festivities way too early. I’m somebody that fervently believes that you shouldn’t do anything Christmassy until, you know, December 1st, but then Halloween.. I dunno, it’s just, it’s October 3rd. Like yes, it’s festively fall-ish, crunchy leaves and orange and stuff, but like is it really time to change your name to something spooky?”
-if I was in charge, people would be in the Halloween spirit from Sept 1 to Dec 31, xmas can choke

12:39 “I don’t think I will [do a ‘pick my outfit’ vid], but it was quite cool ‘cause I’d be interested in just seeing what people think I should wear. I never buy new clothes, I get clothes like once a year when they’re on sale, or just like begging promoters or friends that I know to send me designer clothing for free. Which works like all the time, you should definitely try and blag free clothing whenever you can.”
-and then you too could own a potato sack of your very own

13:10 (chat) Do it on danisnotinteresting then
“Well, look at you suggesting things that make sense. Okay well I’ll consider that I guess”
-will he though

15:45 (talking about a Crystal Maze episode and a team (named 'Cosplayers') on it) “They weren’t cosplayers, they were furries. They were furries.”
16:26 “And I was like, Channel 4, produc- that is not cospl- I mean it is cosplay, but like they’re not The Cosplayers, this is something very— And I wasn’t shaming. And it was weird, like I was watching the episode and they kind of did terribly which is ironic ‘cause like, a bunch of nerds, I really wanted them to win, and you always think they can do really well.”
(about guy dressed up as a zombie cat) “There’s always one person in the group that has to do that little bit extra for the attention. There’s that one guy in the furry fandom, everyone’s just respecting each other’s wishes, yiffing with the proper etiquette, and then this guy’s like ‘oh I’m a zombie cat’, how does that change things? I dunno. But for some reason, as like a niche culture fandom on the internet, I felt like I had to root for them. I almost felt like I was being represented by them in some way. Let’s not read any more into that.”
“So you know, here’s me, still haven’t decided what my fursona is, maybe we need to think about undead animals.”

19:10 “I missed Mother! in the cinema, I’m so mad, I really wanted to go see Mother! as a big fan of Darren Aronofsky, but it’s not in the cinema anymore”
-no spoilers but: it’s shiiiiit. I’ve never been so mad at having paid to see something. If you’re looking for horror (which it was..... advertised... as…….), look elsewhere. If you want an 85% frustrating and 15% disgusting time, go for it! But Black Swan-esque, it. is. not.

25:05 “Dan’s Seal of Approval goes to Greg and Mitch from AsapSCIENCE”
-aw who else explicitly has that apart from them and jacksepticeye? there should be an official list

39:15 (after mentioning writing on a plane) (chat) Writing? Writing for what?
“I write my videos, I write ideas. I’m not writing a book, confirmed. Don’t worry, Dan’s not releasing a secret book, no, no, no”
-SOUNDS JUST LIKE SOMETHING SOMEONE WHO IS RELEASING A SECRET BOOK WOULD SAY

41:45 (chat) Thank you for being so relatable
“I’m just honest with my life and my life experiences. A lot of people, they don't like talking about negative things, they don’t like making negative jokes, especially about themselves, it makes people feel uncomfortable. They’re like ‘oh you shouldn’t joke about these things, it’s not funny’ but I think that the main problem in people’s life is pride, and not talking about things ‘cause they’re scared, everything comes out of a place of fear. Society makes us feel this fear and guilt for different things, and instead of the bad things being something that you just harbour resentment which turns into fear, which leads you to the dark side, if you just wear it on your sleeve and joke about it, if you talk about it, then other people relate to it. If I talk about the bad things in my life, it might be a weird concept to joke about them, but that will just make someone else go ‘hey I’m going through that too’ and maybe not take it that seriously.”

43:12 (about dry winter skin) “I need to get on the chopstick”

43:30 “‘Chapstick’. I didn’t say ‘chopstick’, what is wrong with you?”

44:50 (about roller disco at the YT thing) “I was like ‘I am not going to the roller disco, but [it turned out the free YT dinner was there], ended up going. But then they were giving everybody free glitter face makeovers and I was like, about that. Went. Attempted to rollerblade, always terrifying, could break a leg, but it was fun. It was definitely an experience that could have ended in my death, but it didn’t.”
-it can end in a lot of things other than death; last time Shane Dawson went rollerskating, he broke his leg and then came out as bisexual a week later. roller discos, man, never know what you’re gonna get

47:55 “I hope you look forward to the danisnotonfire video whenever I stop being neurotic and get round to making it”

48:07 “Go touch a tree”

Phinal Tally: said ‘Phil’ 32 times
~32/48mins = 0.666 per min

How about some YT vs. younow speculation: WHAT IF Dan always did hour-long shows because it paid more than Phil’s 40-45 minute shows (because maybe they had slightly different contracts since Dan had slightly higher numbers and so 60min was a stricter requirement to get more money? or something? is that how business works? idk) and now in his old(er) age, he can’t be arsed to do the full hour each week anymore, and YT makes up the difference in pay even with a shorter run-time, so he’s favouring YT instead because it makes financial sense (equal-greater money for equal-lesser effort). And the monetary difference isn’t enough for Phil to give a shit and we all know he’s not big on unnecessary change if something is working just fine. and vaguely blaming the internet is easier than bringing money/etc into it (or he just doesn't want to insult younow by straight up saying their streaming sucks in comparison, who knows).

[smol beans]

i'm one for those who don't really care about "that week in march" anymore. i did back in August but it kinda reminded me of years ago when dan promised to upload the vegas vlog but never did. or could since the usb or whatever got water damaged so they later included it in TABINOF in a funny, remembrance way. i am to believe he will mention it on his own time when he feels ready or can be ready (if legal issues are involved) so until then, it's not something i want to ponder about.

i like his youtube live streams and this one particular did feel a bit more intimate. he wasn't goofing around with the filters like he usually does and seemed like he had a list he was going off of (he kept glancing down in between topics which i assume where his laptop was).

i immediately noticed the straightener during the quick pan but i honestly don't think much of it or have an opinion if they share bedrooms still. maybe cause i keep my straightener in my roommate's room because we share it. it's not in the bathroom because there isn't a proper storage space for the socket converter because my straightener is from the US and all of our apartment wall sockets are European. My roommate's straightener also broke and she does her hair more often than me so I'm letting her keep it in her room where the converter is and I'll go into her room time to time if I want to do my hair too.

as much as i like theorizing what they may be up to, i'm honestly more happy that a baking video is confirmed lol.

[randomthoughts]

I haven't posted in a long time because *ugh* school and all.

But: The "week in march" thing. I wasn't surprised at all he put it off again. I feel slightly like the phandom made it much more of a big deal than it actually was. It might have just been the danandphilgames merch, and he didn't say it because it would disappoint everyone. And I mean, maybe it's something tiny and he just likes to "troll" us, or just keep us interested, because if so it's definitely working. Of course like most everyone else, I'd like to think it's Phan wedding, or new house and doggo, or something, but I don't want to disappoint myself. I honestly don't know what to make of his blocking words from the chat, like how could he actually do that, does he just say, like block the words "march" and "week" or something? Like, just imaging the phandom trying to get past that. "Dan, could you inform us of the seven day period in the month after febuary" Or something.

The new phil clothes video.: I know that idb is really fast, and already way past this. But I really enjoyed this video, some of the new amaingphil videos this year has been, well, I don't know, but uninteresting to me, but this video made up for any of that because it was amazing af. My favorite outfits: The yellow top outfit, and the ripped jeans. And phil's arms were amazing as always. Glad we got to see them for all their beauty in this video.

I'm really glad they're going to make a baking video, those are always some of my favorite DnP videos of all time, I love watching any baking videos for some reason, and watching dan and Phil fail at them is even more entertaining. But I don't know if anything can beat last year's monster cake pop video.

[GdVibesONlyxx]

Would dan really use his own username? I feel like he uses reddit a lot and he'd want it to be private... like, there were already people on that thread questioning if it was 'the' dan, but who knows, maybe he doesnt care

Hi,
ltl, ftp.

The thing you haven't considered is the culture on reddit. I've spent a long time on reddit myself, and I know that there is a strong culture of having multiple accounts.

Many people have a private account that they mostly use, and a throw away that they might use for something more personal.
People also make novelty accounts just for the lols.

It's not a stretch at all to imagine that Dan has a private account, and that he got ownership of the danisnotonfire username and thought it might be a bit of fun to troll us with it.

It's either that, or the person who Has registered his name is trolling, otherwise what kind of coincidence would it be that the real dan is obsessed with guild wars two, and that the reddit account has a character on that game that is massively upgraded.

I read through a few of his comments, and honestly, the way he phrases some sentences... it just sounds like Dan.

And we all know that Dan is 100% the kind of person who would do something like this just to troll us.

[flarequake]

That was a really lovely liveshow. It’s only from reading here that I remembered the filters, it was nice without them especially since he talked more seriously about a few things. He talked fairly easily about not liking going outside, but I’d be surprised if he made a mental health video. When he talked about it before I thought he meant he’s thought about it, but it’s in the back of his mind for now. It was really interesting to hear all about YouTuber camp, the Asap guys and how he was persuaded to go to the roller disco because that’s where dinner was

It was so cute how he talked about Phil too, calling him Philip Lester, the Amazing, or however he put it, he seemed to talk about him more than usual. He seemed more chilled and open generally, it was good. Also to hear his thoughts on the fashion video. I’m not convinced about the beanie and it’s a shame Phil’s also not convinced about the white jeans, but knee pads do sound a bit weird. I wonder if he kept the Ghibli top, that was really cute.

The potato sack swamped him a bit, I think just because it wasn’t hanging off his shoulders like it usually does. If he stood up, it would. The room looked good too, interesting to see it with the lights on properly. I didn’t think anything of the hair straighteners until I got here, but good point. Maybe Phil just doesn’t have space in his room Funny to see 16 pairs of black and white shoes and seemingly all trainers. I guess they’re all different in some way? Seems boring, but I guess they all go with the rest of his clothes.

The Reddit page with the Guild Wars character was posted recently. It’s a good video clip, the poses are cute with him bowing at the end. I don’t know if it’s his for certain, but the screenshot of his character on Twitter ages ago looked very similar (you can pay for a thing to change their hairstyles). He didn’t miss much by being in Spain when the expansion launched, the first few days had a lot of server connection problems and it took me until late the next day to even load the new area and story.

So glad Halloween baking is confirmed and to hear his thoughts on months and holidays. Baking videos are some of their best so I’m glad he found something he wants to eat, we don’t often get both Easter and Halloween

[rizzo]

I'm all for a Halloween baking, but also #TeamFestiveBaking ffs.

This liveshow was sweet. If there's one thing I really enjoy about the YouTube liveshows, it's that we get a close up of his face and that makes his body language/facial movements more exaggerated in a really endearing way I can't quite explain. He's very expressive and I fall for that shit every time.

I've been picking up on a thing Dan tends to do regularly that's become a bit more glaring in YT/mobile liveshows. He notices something on himself or in the background and immediately wants to talk about it, so he phrases it like a question. "Dan, what's on your bookshelf?" or "Dan, your hair's fluffy!" (IDK, I made these up.) Today's was at 17:39, where you see him catch sight of the candle in his own background then ask himself about it as if it's someone in the chat: "Dan, is that a candle in the background?" I don't hate it. I think it's a pretty clever way to comment on things he may want to explain. It's also kind of a fun game to catch these things, given how often he does it. Some of the questions are too obvious and quick.

On that note, I'm kind of living for how comfortable he is showing us around their bedroom a bit. I get this warm feeling that he knows we know and doesn't mind as long as it's not like... blatant and public.



ETA: On the topic of that reddit post... I totally think that's Dan. He obviously has a more private account he uses regularly, but if you look at that post it's nothing but bragging. Why not log into a username everyone knows you by and show off a bit? Especially, given we know that his main is a mesmer. The guy wanted to show off and tbh, I don't think it drew as big a response as he thought it would.

[Ewok]

I'm all for a Halloween baking, but also #TeamFestiveBaking ffs.

This liveshow was sweet. If there's one thing I really enjoy about the YouTube liveshows, it's that we get a close up of his face and that makes his body language/facial movements more exaggerated in a really endearing way I can't quite explain. He's very expressive and I fall for that shit every time.

I've been picking up on a thing Dan tends to do regularly that's become a bit more glaring in YT/mobile liveshows. He notices something on himself or in the background and immediately wants to talk about it, so he phrases it like a question. "Dan, what's on your bookshelf?" or "Dan, your hair's fluffy!" (IDK, I made these up.) Today's was at 17:39, where you see him catch sight of the candle in his own background then ask himself about it as if it's someone in the chat: "Dan, is that a candle in the background?" I don't hate it. I think it's a pretty clever way to comment on things he may want to explain. It's also kind of a fun game to catch these things, given how often he does it. Some of the questions are too obvious and quick.

On that note, I'm kind of living for how comfortable he is showing us around their bedroom a bit. I get this warm feeling that he knows we know and doesn't mind as long as it's not like... blatant and public.



ETA: On the topic of that reddit post... I totally think that's Dan. He obviously has a more private account he uses regularly, but if you look at that post it's nothing but bragging. Why not log into a username everyone knows you by and show off a bit? Especially, given we know that his main is a mesmer. The guy wanted to show off and tbh, I don't think it drew as big a response as he thought it would.

The whole bragging thing made me laugh. The Phandom is practically nonexistent on Reddit afaik. I think it's more likely he'd find casual viewers on Reddit. I wonder what percentage of Dan's audience demographic matches the average Reddit demographic? (If that makes sense?) Some of Reddit's stereotypes exist for a reason lmao.

The whole sneaking in things he wants to talk about also makes me go hmm. It's a bit more noticeable to me now that you point it out. I don't think he or Phil have the greatest poker faces, haha. It also reminds me of that theory(?) floating around that Dan makes up questions out of thin air (the gas man thing.) It's funny in an "oh god I'm in too deep for noticing that" kind of way.

Another thing I noticed was his mention of his collab with Louise. Cba to find the time stamp of it on mobile but when someone asked if they collabed with Louise recently, he corrected them to say they "hung out with Louise recently." I wonder why the twist on words there? Louise already posted about the collab, it's not as if there's any big surprise is there?

It's a reach but it makes me wonder if this has something to do with why Louise has postponed posting it? Someone else here on IDB said she usually uploads on Mondays right...? I just have so many questions. Dammit Dan.

[dontpanic]

I can't figure out why, but I really liked that live show... I think it was the vibe, it was calm.

I was wondering ur opinions... have u noticed anything different with the chat when Danny boi goes youtube ? It couldn't just be me overthinking it, but the chat has felt more spammy(?) than it usually does on younow, like even more people doing the usual repetitive asks and stuff like that, if that makes sense?

Dan is pretty adamant about liveshows feeling "intimate" and I feel like, besides the obvious "intimacy as a commodity" thing that is youtube, he does it partly for himself because he might feel more comfortable talking about off-script semi-personal things when he can say it's mostly the same people tuning in each week.

Dan seems to kind of like being able to talk (a bit) freely, and maybe the opportunity cost of having ~10k fans not tune in (and pay $$) because they didn't get a tweet is worth the illusion of intimacy dan gets from a slightly smaller group watching/streaming to ppl who have watched him enough to remember when he's on? Especially since he gets ad revenue anyway from people who watch the show later if they miss it. Although tbh I low key hope that's not the case bc I would miss liveshws 90% of the time if he didn't tweet.

Tbh he uses descriptors like "intimate" etc. so much it feels like he's trying to sell it to himself almost as much as he's trying to sell it to us.

Idk, Im just thinkin about this because I'm kind of relating this to my teaching--five weeks into the semester I finally feel kinda comfortable when I'm lecturing; I feel like I'm teaching people I know even tho I have over 100 students in each section. The illusion of intimacy gives me the confidence to make lame jokes and reveal tidbits of my life... but yeah 100 students isn't the same as a literal FANDOM

Sorry for any typos, I'm on moble and my hands are freezing so I'm probably mistyping a lot

(I'm totally procrastinating and it feel so so good)