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Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:37 pm
by SquishPhan
alittledizzy wrote:Okay, massive Vidcon panel timestamps post under the cut. This is quick and dirty (if you can call taking 2-3 hours quick) so I probably didn't catch every word of the things I quoted and I definitely didn't timestamp every time they talked. Just the things I had thoughts on. And some of those thoughts are just me being shallow and phan trash, deal with it.
The First Time I Hit Upload

3:50 - Phil dreamt about being eaten by a giant lizard. Dan cutely interjects "OKAY!" - Phil says he "kinda liked it in a strange way" and Dan says something over Phil that I can't entirely make out but I'll assume it was cute too. Cute, cute, cute, everything is cute. Rainbows and sunshine and Phil-eating-lizard cute. I wonder if Phil wakes up every morning and tells Dan his dream right away? He seems to get really excited over weird dreams.

6:50 - Cereal box camera smosh lonelygirl rambled embarrassing boring whacked it up - "I don't regret it now!" "Phil doesn't regret it, guys!" "I had a different accent. "Yes!" "Welcome to my video blogs." "Phil sounded like the Starks in GOT." Dan is Phil's own mini cheerleader, supporting him after every syllable. A little annoying, a lot sweet.

12:55 - "I learned my editing skills from editing fan Buffy the Vampire Slayer music videos." "Phil [something] long before any of you." Phiiiiiil my heaaaaart. I actually didn't know this and from the reactions I don't think most people did and the fact that he divulged something we didn't know before just... ugh.

13:40 - Dan spent three weeks trying to edit his video "and then I hit up Phil for those sweet editing tips" - I actually enjoyed the wide view of this moment to see everyone else's expressions when he said that. Dan's tone here just makes me smile. He's acknowledging the joke, he's acknowledging the literal truth behind it that he did have Phil help him edit, and he's not being overly sarcastic in a way that would make it seem like mockery on either side. (Also, Phil nodding.) He also looks at Phil as he speaks. To the audience, some, but for the bulk of the story he just seems like he's telling it to Phil.

I also enjoy how Elliott is familiar with how these audiences work and tries to corrall the screaming or direct it to specific moments. When someone shouts 'I love you Dan' and it is obvious they're going to continue shouting it until they get a response he does a pointed acknowledgement and then tries to move on quickly. The same with how he says he'll announce all the names at once and let people get the screams out. Sorry, this is just a tangent into Elliott appreciation. (I'm a fan of his, can you tell?)

17:20 - Nothing new in his 'why I wanted to make videos' story. Smosh, Shane Dawson, Phil - but I still enjoy him speaking confidently about what he wanted out of youtube. I appreciate that he didn't go into the Phil aspect of it in more depth because if he had we'd have a load more 'panderingphanservicebrandinghowdarethey' comments. I also like his confidence about how he knew what kind of youtuber he wanted to be and he feels like he still is that person. Phil's answer is nothing new at all but Dan continues to interject. Phil talks over him once and Dan shuts up promptly.

29:00 - Phil talking about keeping his videos a secret is heart warming. The little gesture Dan makes when Phil says he didn't have many friends. Ughhh stop you're disgusting I hate you both (ilu keep going).

32:39 - Dan's perspective as someone who was in youtube fandom before starting youtube is nice. He falls back on it for every question but it's a genuine point of difference between him and everyone else on the panel.

37:08 - "Gems like landshark that me and Phil watch like once a month." Followed by Phil shooting down the leaving youtube rumors. I do think that they don't plan on stopping videos at any point in the near future, even if it's not a focal point of the career. I think if leaving youtube was recently on his mind he'd have found a way to diplomatically word it.

38:28 - Dan and Phil both have a reaction to Elliot saying the word decade. Phil kind of goes 'oof' and Dan says 'don't say that word.' Another hint that Phil is sensitive to his age? I mean, it's a joke, but sometimes you can see the truth at the bottom of a humorous reaction.

39:38 - "You can tell he's got - he starts pacing around the apartment. Oh, he's got a video idea, I can see it." Oh snap, I forgot this moment. Phil actually interrupts one of Dan's stories to give it some more texture by adding detail of his own. Dan with his fingers over his mouth grinning at Phil after. He's just so pleased.

42:40 - "I mean, thankfully I have Phil to approve my ideas before I [can't hear over screaming.] Sometimes I'll think of a video and I'm like, is this funny? And Phil's like 'mmmmmmm.' And I get really offended."
"I'll just do that ehhhh maybe...."
"Maybe somebody coming from this perspective might think this."

Not new info but cutecutecute. I'll focus on that instead of the hypocrisy on display here from Dan when he talks about how he values creative honesty and not overthinking; please, buddy, get back to me with that when your last video wasn't about fucking exam study tips.

50:25 more hypocrisy about bigger audience = creative freedom but I do like the bit of honesty in how doing youtube became more terrifying after he dropped out of law school. I believe that he stresses less over "playing the game of youtube" but the talk of not compromising what he wants to do... seriously, get back to me when you're making creative videos. This talk about him being in law school is nice though. Phil lifts his mic like he's going to talk in the middle of Dan's sentence and I want to know if what he was going to say is what he ended up saying when Dan finished. Which was:

51:50 - Phil talking about how much mean comments hurt him makes me 'aw' but Phil including constructive comments in that makes me tilt my head. That stubbornness Dan spoke of in the roulette video, maybe? Phil not wanting to accept that how he did something isn't the best way to do something? He says it doesn't bother him anymore; is that because his self-confidence is so that he assumes negative/constructive comments are wrong, or because he learned how to take them to heart in the spirit intended? (For constructive ones, at least.)

55:02 - Phil playing 'hello internet' story.

55:39 - Phil talking about how far he's come and it being a morale boost is cute.

59:44 - Jenna's comment: "And you know when I'm not happy I'm just gonna disappear to Montana and get a farm with a bunch of dogs." Dan and Phil's delighted reactions to that - you just KNOW that's a plan they've talked about. Maybe not Montana, but somewhere. That's a genuine Phil laugh. He lifts the mic to his mouth again to talk but then lowers it. Damnit, Phil. Interrupt people more. I want your thoughts.
And if you couldn't bring yourself to watch the variety show I didn't do as much commenting on this but I did list out every question and D&P answers with times specifically for D&P.
Variety Show

If you could eat only one food for the rest of your life, what would it be?
3:58 - D: microwave popcorn, P: cereal

What's your favorite animal?
5:45 - Swoozie says pomeranians, Dan says "Shiba Inus. Fight me." (Dan's fight me stance is adorable posturing.)
6:03 - P: I'm gonna go with the majestic lion, D: Phil, staying on the brand, same line. The answer is red pandas. You don't need to [something].
6:20 - D: Llamas. They ARE majestic creatures, they actually are.

Keyboard or pen and paper?
6:39 - D: keyboard, what even is - I don't know how to hold a pen anymore, P: Definitely keyboard.

What is the food you hate the most?
8:51 - P: I'm with Olga, I'm team cheese. D: I am a big cheese lover so [audience screams] you have no idea how hard it is living with Phil. I'm just like, I'm gonna break out the- 'Noooo.' P: No. D: Can't eat cheese, steals my cereal. I don't know what to do.
9:15 - D: Raw tomatoes.

Cats or dogs?
9:52 - D: Dogs. [someone throws a shoe on stage and the host hands it to Dan. wtf? Dan gingerly dropping it is hilarious.] P: Dogs.

Are you a morning person or a night owl?
12:03 - P: If anyone talks to me in the morning I turn into the Incredible Hulk. D: Any time before midday is grumpy Phil time, just don't. He's not amazing Phil, he's imma-choke-you-right-now Phil. [then his actual answer] I'm a night owl.

What's your go-to karaoke song?
12:41 - D: Evanescence, Bring Me To Life. P: Britney Spears, Toxic.

Do you like pickles?
14:31 - P: No pickles for me. D: I am team yes pickle. If ever there's [something] make me and Phil hate each other, it's the pickle debate.

Have you ever broken a bone?
14:48 - D: Yes, my little finger going down the water slide.

Favorite character on game of thrones?
14:51 - P: Dragon
Thank you so much for this, it's very helpful.
It seems that if are to ever go their own way, pickles was at the heart of it all. :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:54 pm
by kuensukki
alittledizzy why did your play by play read like a fanfiction?? Like it sounds so adorable and domestic And big YES to wanting Phil to interrupt, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed him putting his mike up then subconsciously putting it back down. He did it several times in the panel. Even when he said the Dan pacing thing his voice broke initially and he had to speak louder to be heard. I think it's part because he is shy but part because he is polite, even in the video with Louise he couldn't interrupt to insert his opinion. Also about him sharing his experience with hate comments I would hope he would not ignore the negative ones but actually read and reflect the constructive criticism ones.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:06 pm
by RiriPandaHeart2
Thank you alittledizzy! That "recap" helped me understand a lot of what I had a hard time making out while watching the vid. Kudos to you for having the time and patience to type it out.

About Phil needing to speak out more, YES YES YES. I'd love to hear more about his opinions! But since I'm really shy, I can relate so much about not speaking up even if I do have something interesting to say. Like I dunno. If there's a person speaking and they're really passionate about it and they just keep on talking, I feel like, in a weird way, it makes me shut up and just listen to them even if I do have an opinion on what they're saying. :?

On the constructive criticism thing, I think Phil's at a point where he does listen to them now but ends up still doing his own thing. I'm fairly new to the phandom but from what I've been reading up and my own observation, Phil could have changed A LOT more (I know a lot are saying that Phil changed the way he's been handling his videos, and I could see that, hence why even as someone new, I tend to really like his earlier videos because they were more refreshing and honest?), in the sense that he could have changed his concept and made it more "relate-able". But no, there's still that quirky Phil and his weird stories at the core of his channel and even if it seems to make him be less popular than Dan (for casual subscribers), he didn't make a drastic change to really "conform". So I actually like that about him.

I'm not sure if I'm expressing myself well. So sorry if this was rambley.

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I'm new to the phandom so I just realized that it was a thing recently, but I've been kinda upset when seeing D&P in other Youtubers videos and the comments are like: "Came here only for Phan, left when they left". Like I get what they mean, cause I do it too. But do we really have to say that in the comments? I feel like it's a slap to the uploader's face. I just find it mean and disrespectful. :facepalm:
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Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:11 pm
by swofro
My theories regarding Hazel's tweet


1)Dan was so drunk at the party he says everything wrong. Hamilton becomes Hamiltan, Twenty-one Pilots becomes Twenty-one Pirates etc. I cant figure out what dad hats suppose to be

2)Hazel is bantering about ® or © (i still dont know the difference)

3)Hazel is talking about now that ppl are regretting brexit, hence #regrexit. And maybe it effects something regarding copyright law. Idk.

4)Hazel is drunk tweeting

5)Hazel mis-tag Dan for someone else


Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:16 pm
by starlight-still
blueapple_x wrote:
sunday wrote: Omg I know it probably wasn't funny to her at the time but I can't stop laughing at that vid, it's so comical how Dan's just like LET'S GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD and she's in tears but when she realises this is her one shot to get a pic with Dan and Phil she's all BAM supermodel smile :lol:
missemma wrote: "Let's look at the Nikon" should be the next thread title haha!
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Lol don't worry I chuckled at the video as well :lol:
Dan giving life advice like, "don't worry, just look at the Nikon, everything will be alright." Or "always look at the Nikon of life" ::whistles:: :lol:
I would vote for that thread title

Watching the end part of the "First Upload" panel that I missed yesterday and had to chuckle about this:
Some folks have mentioned how Dan is sitting cross-legged but then PHIL goes and sits the exact same way. Like, he has one leg going up and down, up and down for most of it then around 52:34 he just...goes for it. These two I mean he puts it back down about two minutes later cause his damn near thirty behind is not about that life but it was cute while it lasted.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:21 pm
by Reizam
RiriPandaHeart2 wrote:[offtopic]
I'm new to the phandom so I just realized that it was a thing recently, but I've been kinda upset when seeing D&P in other Youtubers videos and the comments are like: "Came here only for Phan, left when they left". Like I get what they mean, cause I do it too. But do we really have to say that in the comments? I feel like it's a slap to the uploader's face. I just find it mean and disrespectful. :facepalm:
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I definitely agree, it's such a pet peeve of mine and I find it pretty rude. I think the intent of the comments is to get attention from others in the phandom who'll agree and say "omg same" and get lots of responses, but do they not realize how rude it is to the other people in the vid? Is it really necessary to point that out?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:23 pm
by pixlexia
kuensukki wrote: THEY ARE SO AWKWARD HERE :shock:
Like I remember people saying dan is so awkward IRL but good god they look downright uncomfortable around a crying girl. How does he change from sassy confident stage Dan to this uncomfortable boy :x I thought they'd be used to crying fans by now Also Phil gives Dan this adorable "I'm scared what should we do look" when the girl turns her back and he looks like a deer. It's cute how they still are using each other as anchors and rely on the others cue on how to deal with a situation.

Oh my, mixed feelings on this, mostly because I'm really curious what's happening before and after this small clip. Is she really crying because she's meeting them? I've cried meeting people too, but I acted a lot differently when it happened, that almost seemed more like bad-things-are-happening-and-are-making-me-cry sort of crying but hey, everyone cries differently. :lol: That's also where I went with the Dan saying "oh no" and "do you want to take a photo quickly". But then, the way both D&P look into the distance and then at each other with disapproving expressions makes me think that perhaps there was something going on behind the scenes that was potentially ruining the experience. I don't know, I can only do so much with a 10 second video but I'm intrigued. :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:32 pm
by Reizam
starlight-still wrote: Watching the end part of the "First Upload" panel that I missed yesterday and had to chuckle about this:
Some folks have mentioned how Dan is sitting cross-legged but then PHIL goes and sits the exact same way. Like, he has one leg going up and down, up and down for most of it then around 52:34 he just...goes for it. These two I mean he puts it back down about two minutes later cause his damn near thirty behind is not about that life but it was cute while it lasted.
Haha I totally noticed that part too, and after he did that I heard a few cheers from the audience... I was so fixated on him at first watch that I wasn't sure if people were cheering at what Jenna was saying or at Phil crossing his legs :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:41 pm
by kuensukki
pixlexia wrote:
kuensukki wrote: THEY ARE SO AWKWARD HERE :shock:
Like I remember people saying dan is so awkward IRL but good god they look downright uncomfortable around a crying girl. How does he change from sassy confident stage Dan to this uncomfortable boy :x I thought they'd be used to crying fans by now Also Phil gives Dan this adorable "I'm scared what should we do look" when the girl turns her back and he looks like a deer. It's cute how they still are using each other as anchors and rely on the others cue on how to deal with a situation.

Oh my, mixed feelings on this, mostly because I'm really curious what's happening before and after this small clip. Is she really crying because she's meeting them? I've cried meeting people too, but I acted a lot differently when it happened, that almost seemed more like bad-things-are-happening-and-are-making-me-cry sort of crying but hey, everyone cries differently. :lol: That's also where I went with the Dan saying "oh no" and "do you want to take a photo quickly". But then, the way both D&P look into the distance and then at each other with disapproving expressions makes me think that perhaps there was something going on behind the scenes that was potentially ruining the experience. I don't know, I can only do so much with a 10 second video but I'm intrigued. :lol:
Apparently on her Instagram she said she ran to them and she wasn't even supposed to be there so maybe the guards tried to stop her but she cried so the boys felt bad and took the picture. That's why she took a moment to compose (only a moment though, because in the next second he was Sasha Fierce )

Also this moment for all you phan trashes. Look at how he's looking at Dan, like what should we do with this child babe??? (Giant Dan makes a reappearance)
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Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:14 am
by lilMango
alittledizzy thanks for your post! Thought I'd confirm: at 12:55 I believe it was, Dan says "Phil was making fan edits long before any of you." Idk I chuckled at that and thought it was cute, nothing else to add

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18 am
by coffee pig
annetamiau wrote:Honestly, I'm close to being done with deppy. The alternative ending to the phanfiction took their shipbaiting to a whole another level. 'Open wide for captain Lester' but they had two rooms in their bus. If they are not together, this whole game they started to play like two years ago would make me actually dislike them a lot. To be honest, I don't know how people who think they are not together watch them anymore. I know there is a fine line between fanservice and shipbaiting, but I can't see this as anything else but the latter (not just that they changed the ending of the segment, but the whole segment itself).

As for the 'physical copy' (or lack of it with the YTR project), I honestly think Dan said that when the book came out only because he wanted people to buy it.
Lol so I missed this entire thread due to being busy but...even though I'm not quite done with Deppy yet I'm starting to agree with this? Hearing about the fanfiction section in TATINOF really rubs me the wrong way.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:07 am
by eevee
bedhead91 wrote:
annetamiau wrote:Honestly, I'm close to being done with deppy. The alternative ending to the phanfiction took their shipbaiting to a whole another level. 'Open wide for captain Lester' but they had two rooms in their bus. If they are not together, this whole game they started to play like two years ago would make me actually dislike them a lot. To be honest, I don't know how people who think they are not together watch them anymore. I know there is a fine line between fanservice and shipbaiting, but I can't see this as anything else but the latter (not just that they changed the ending of the segment, but the whole segment itself).

As for the 'physical copy' (or lack of it with the YTR project), I honestly think Dan said that when the book came out only because he wanted people to buy it.
Lol so I missed this entire thread due to being busy but...even though I'm not quite done with Deppy yet I'm starting to agree with this? Hearing about the fanfiction section in TATINOF really rubs me the wrong way.
I agree, they're playing into this shipping a LOT and it's like they know that we don't know where they stand, and they're milking that we eat up the 2009 stuff. it makes me think they're never going to come out or at least not for a few more years because they're going to keep milking our hope and our shipping. it rubs me the wrong way too but if they're making bank from it why would they stop?

edit: please don't mistake this for me bashing deppy, i just don't agree with this aspect of their branding and it annoys me. I obviously love deppy and i would never try to demonize them. thanks for understanding.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:13 am
by sunday
Dan's little flourish as he greets his fans omfg

Deppy speak to the camera at the end around 1:28
Also Phil hugs the camera at the end for all you Phil stans (looking at you DP333 haha)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:16 am
by eevee
lol

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:28 am
by sunday
Cuuute

where is everyone? *googles time in England* ahh I see

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:39 am
by alittledizzy
lmao Phil liked this on twitter

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:03 am
by majitzu
A jumping compilation

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:37 am
by asimfrickinzazzed
majitzu wrote:A jumping compilation

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They jumped at the same time on that last one wow
I shouldn't be so surprised when they mirror each other but every time

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:19 am
by karma_yeah
alittledizzy wrote:lmao Phil liked this on twitter


whoever made this. Very clever, much funny

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:50 am
by bear
hello! long time lurker here and gg :D
bedhead91 wrote:
annetamiau wrote:Honestly, I'm close to being done with deppy. The alternative ending to the phanfiction took their shipbaiting to a whole another level. 'Open wide for captain Lester' but they had two rooms in their bus. If they are not together, this whole game they started to play like two years ago would make me actually dislike them a lot. To be honest, I don't know how people who think they are not together watch them anymore. I know there is a fine line between fanservice and shipbaiting, but I can't see this as anything else but the latter (not just that they changed the ending of the segment, but the whole segment itself).

As for the 'physical copy' (or lack of it with the YTR project), I honestly think Dan said that when the book came out only because he wanted people to buy it.
Lol so I missed this entire thread due to being busy but...even though I'm not quite done with Deppy yet I'm starting to agree with this? Hearing about the fanfiction section in TATINOF really rubs me the wrong way.
Ok but deppy brand themselves as platonic friends. Whatever they actually are, that's what they brand themselves as. Maybe I'm wearing my , but wouldn't they reenact fanfiction, to be like "haha awkward bro" or almost fake being awkward to get the wrong idea? I probably have my goggles on all the way right now, but it's so weird comparing how they acted then vs on stage at vidcon. are like the most confusing people ever, so I don't know if what I'm saying makes any sense

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:56 am
by sunday
mfw I don't watch GOT :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:59 am
by esso
sunday wrote: mfw I don't watch GOT :lol:
Dan's right though. THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD FINALE. Gave me chills.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester,

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:05 am
by flarequake
Those jumping gifs especially when they're in sync. Deppy on springs going boing

Great to read everything they said in the panels, thanks for writing it all out The funny thing about Phil crossing his legs and all the cheering cos he sat the same way as Dan is that Jenna said "thank you" thinking they liked what she was saying. I love her, watched her "thoughts from a bathtub 2" video and think I'll be catching up on the years of her videos I've missed.

After hearing even more of how cheeky Phil can be, I think his cinnamon roll angel crown has been taken by Thomas Sanders. Great photo of them all too, he's so lovely.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:11 am
by SquishPhan
alittledizzy wrote:lmao Phil liked this on twitter
I'm so happy that Phil liked that on his twitter.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 17: Open Wide for Captain Lester

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:20 am
by sweetmm
I'm sorry, its old news, but too adorable to not save it here "happily bouncing with a laptop" :lol:

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