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phamnotof wrote:today on phil is my slytherin prince:
he's just so in control of the public perception of himself, to a point where he even *makes* the drink and is in charge or distributing it, because he wants to be on alert, doesn't want the walls to slip, so this way, he knows what he's drinking, and he can stop when he wants (generally, refills are a very common thing on tipsy talk, you know? this was, if anything, sugar high talk)
he starts off by interviewing *hazel*, for god's sake, it's amazing, she barely even notices
when she brings up real stuff, he gets jokey and tries playing it off several times, because this is not what AP is about, right?
he even brings a prop chicken to fill the time with, to control the tone of the interview & make it lighthearted rather than deeply introspective I AM SO FASCINATED THIS ISN'T A JUDGEMENT IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WATCHING YOU WORK IS KINDA AMAZING
(loved it though, it was fun and funny and you could tell they like each other & would actually hang out privately. makes all the difference. also, hazel is so pretty and )

This is amazing.
Please continue to share your analyses of Phil the Slytherin prince. I love it.

Two more interesting moments:

1) Now I've Got Milk And Dib-Dab All Over My Crotch
Did he intentionally spill on his lap to make himself seem more tipsy and/or to empty his drink a bit without drinking from it?
(brb gonna go analyze how much liquid is in his glass throughout the video)

2) J-Law
P - "They do, they poop."
H - "They do poop."
p - [looks directly into camera] "Even Jennifer Lawrence."
Teasing Dan or trolling the phandom? You decide.

phamnotof wrote:today on phil is my slytherin prince:
he's just so in control of the public perception of himself, to a point where he even *makes* the drink and is in charge or distributing it, because he wants to be on alert, doesn't want the walls to slip, so this way, he knows what he's drinking, and he can stop when he wants (generally, refills are a very common thing on tipsy talk, you know? this was, if anything, sugar high talk)
he starts off by interviewing *hazel*, for god's sake, it's amazing, she barely even notices
when she brings up real stuff, he gets jokey and tries playing it off several times, because this is not what AP is about, right?
he even brings a prop chicken to fill the time with, to control the tone of the interview & make it lighthearted rather than deeply introspective I AM SO FASCINATED THIS ISN'T A JUDGEMENT IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WATCHING YOU WORK IS KINDA AMAZING
(loved it though, it was fun and funny and you could tell they like each other & would actually hang out privately. makes all the difference. also, hazel is so pretty and )

I love love love this!! I'm really starting to like Phil more after joining this forum, I admit I'm a total Dangirl but Phil's true nature is very intriguing.
Has the phandom decided what house Dan is?

I've never watched Hazel's videos before, I'm glad she wasn't as horrible as I've heard (or maybe not horrible, just unpleasant?). Can't wait to see the vid on Phil's channel and compare how different his persona might be.

oqua wrote:

phamnotof wrote:today on phil is my slytherin prince:
he's just so in control of the public perception of himself, to a point where he even *makes* the drink and is in charge or distributing it, because he wants to be on alert, doesn't want the walls to slip, so this way, he knows what he's drinking, and he can stop when he wants (generally, refills are a very common thing on tipsy talk, you know? this was, if anything, sugar high talk)
he starts off by interviewing *hazel*, for god's sake, it's amazing, she barely even notices
when she brings up real stuff, he gets jokey and tries playing it off several times, because this is not what AP is about, right?
he even brings a prop chicken to fill the time with, to control the tone of the interview & make it lighthearted rather than deeply introspective I AM SO FASCINATED THIS ISN'T A JUDGEMENT IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WATCHING YOU WORK IS KINDA AMAZING
(loved it though, it was fun and funny and you could tell they like each other & would actually hang out privately. makes all the difference. also, hazel is so pretty and )

This is amazing.
Please continue to share your analyses of Phil the Slytherin prince. I love it.

Two more interesting moments:

1) Now I've Got Milk And Dib-Dab All Over My Crotch
Did he intentionally spill on his lap to make himself seem more tipsy and/or to empty his drink a bit without drinking from it?
(brb gonna go analyze how much liquid is in his glass throughout the video)

2) J-Law
P - "They do, they poop."
H - "They do poop."
p - [looks directly into camera] "Even Jennifer Lawrence."
Teasing Dan or trolling the phandom? You decide.

Teasing Dan. I caught a few looks (from both Hazel and Phil) in the direction of his doorway, so I guess Dan was hanging around, even if he didn't make an appearance.

Transcription of death discussion.

H: "Oh yeah, I was going to ask you about a thing and then I forgot, because we do talk about this, but usually it segues in a more natural way..."
P: "Death?"
H: "Yes!"
P: "What about death do you want to ask me?!"
H: "I want to know what you think about it."
P: "I think it's...a scary prospect and I'm gonna try to avoid it by turning myself into a half-human half-robot."
H: "Would you want to live forever?"
P: "Well — Yes!!"
H: "Would you really? Everyone you know would die."
P: "But...they'd all be robots too..."
H: "Oh, we're making—"
P: "In my— In my—"
H: "We're making everyone robots."
P: "We're making everyone robots."
H: "Is this maybe like some kind of coping mechanism so that you don't have to think about death?"
P: "Hazel, let's not even go there...I'm gonna be a robot..."
H: "Does this bother you?"
P: "What, death??"
H: "Yeah."
P: "A little bit. I mean I'd— I— I like being alive. [cut] And to think that I would never be able to watch an episode of 'Buffy,' or hang out with my friends again..... I'd rather be a robot. [cut] Will you join me in this robot world, or are you just gonna die?"
H: "I'm not sure, I think maybe I'd rather just die than be a robot."
P: "That means we're gonna have to go to war one day, Hazel."

still working on the drink analysis

greatnessflicker wrote:

Stakhanov wrote: sidenote: Dan follows @KimKierkegaard on twitter. It's hillarious. It brings you "The philosophy of Søren Kierkegaard mashed with the tweets and observations of Kim Kardashian."

Haha, that's great. Reminds me of the time he responded to a tweet (which was in response to his should-we-have-doritos-or-popcorn tweet) that said "sartre's claim that we live in anguish because we are free reminds me a lot of you" with "i find that principle applies to my life far too often but i love that this tweet in particular made you think of it." Wonder if dan has ever read some existential literature to go with his brand.

He's mentioned reading Camus' The Stranger which is intriguing. (he never talked about what he thought about it though (much to my dismay))

phamnotof wrote:today on phil is my slytherin prince:
he's just so in control of the public perception of himself, to a point where he even *makes* the drink and is in charge or distributing it, because he wants to be on alert, doesn't want the walls to slip, so this way, he knows what he's drinking, and he can stop when he wants (generally, refills are a very common thing on tipsy talk, you know? this was, if anything, sugar high talk)
he starts off by interviewing *hazel*, for god's sake, it's amazing, she barely even notices
when she brings up real stuff, he gets jokey and tries playing it off several times, because this is not what AP is about, right?
he even brings a prop chicken to fill the time with, to control the tone of the interview & make it lighthearted rather than deeply introspective I AM SO FASCINATED THIS ISN'T A JUDGEMENT IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WATCHING YOU WORK IS KINDA AMAZING
(loved it though, it was fun and funny and you could tell they like each other & would actually hang out privately. makes all the difference. also, hazel is so pretty and )

Thank you for continuing this Watching that man at work...even from a young age, as we've seen now with WL. Notice how in Hazel's video, he even preemptively struck with the death topic instead of letting her actually ask him outright

In general, my reaction to Phil = Hazel at 2:43 and 7:44 cough and 4:29 cough cough truth in jest they say cough

- Loved the Tipsy talk video in general. Phil seems to genuinely like Hazel, probably finds her personality more mature that your average youtuber. Also quirky guy Phil TM image maintained.
- Totally agree with what phamnotof said about Phil being subtly supercontrolling about the way he appeared on camera and taking over the conversation in general. I guess rip our dreams of him doing a podcast.
- There were a few awkward moments, but it really felt like Hazel's talking to "youtube royalty" throughout the video, those will be accepted by everybody including Hazel as his adorable little quirks (which they are). Phil is Mr Charm.

Re: THE DEATH DISCUSSION
Pls tell me someone has a collection of video clips on this (I remember Phil has said that everything with old people in movies gets him emotional & he likes to visit his parents often to make sure they’re not old etc. Or is it a bit too creepy.) :wtf:

The butt and signature deciphering convo early was hilarious, thanks for brightening up my weekend! Not sold on Dan Lester, but I loved how everyone's mobilised their detective skills. #buttgate #danlestergate

starlight-still wrote:

phamnotof wrote:today on phil is my slytherin prince:
he's just so in control of the public perception of himself, to a point where he even *makes* the drink and is in charge or distributing it, because he wants to be on alert, doesn't want the walls to slip, so this way, he knows what he's drinking, and he can stop when he wants (generally, refills are a very common thing on tipsy talk, you know? this was, if anything, sugar high talk)
he starts off by interviewing *hazel*, for god's sake, it's amazing, she barely even notices
when she brings up real stuff, he gets jokey and tries playing it off several times, because this is not what AP is about, right?
he even brings a prop chicken to fill the time with, to control the tone of the interview & make it lighthearted rather than deeply introspective I AM SO FASCINATED THIS ISN'T A JUDGEMENT IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WATCHING YOU WORK IS KINDA AMAZING
(loved it though, it was fun and funny and you could tell they like each other & would actually hang out privately. makes all the difference. also, hazel is so pretty and )

Thank you for continuing this Watching that man at work...even from a young age, as we've seen now with WL. Notice how in Hazel's video, he even preemptively struck with the death topic instead of letting her actually ask him outright

In general, my reaction to Phil = Hazel at 2:43 and 7:44 cough and 4:29 cough cough truth in jest they say cough

oh he did bring it up, didn't he? wow. she was telling him about what she usually talks about and he immediately knew she meant death, that makes me think he actually like (re)watched old episodes of Tipsy Talk in preparation for what she might ask him, like he actually did his homework so that he wouldn't be taken aback by anything. Now I'm just imagining him watching her other collabs & taking notes.

idk wrote:

greatnessflicker wrote:

Stakhanov wrote: sidenote: Dan follows @KimKierkegaard on twitter. It's hillarious. It brings you "The philosophy of Søren Kierkegaard mashed with the tweets and observations of Kim Kardashian."

Haha, that's great. Reminds me of the time he responded to a tweet (which was in response to his should-we-have-doritos-or-popcorn tweet) that said "sartre's claim that we live in anguish because we are free reminds me a lot of you" with "i find that principle applies to my life far too often but i love that this tweet in particular made you think of it." Wonder if dan has ever read some existential literature to go with his brand.

He's mentioned reading Camus' The Stranger which is intriguing. (he never talked about what he thought about it though (much to my dismay))

Omg when?? That's one of my favourite books

vincentian wrote:- Loved the Tipsy talk video in general. Phil seems to genuinely like Hazel, probably finds her personality more mature that your average youtuber. Also quirky guy Phil TM image maintained.
- Totally agree with what phamnotof said about Phil being subtly supercontrolling about the way he appeared on camera and taking over the conversation in general. I guess rip our dreams of him doing a podcast.
- There were a few awkward moments, but it really felt like Hazel's talking to "youtube royalty" throughout the video, those will be accepted by everybody including Hazel as his adorable little quirks (which they are). Phil is Mr Charm.

Re: THE DEATH DISCUSSION
Pls tell me someone has a collection of video clips on this (I remember Phils has said that everything with old people in movies gets him emotional & he likes to visit his parents often to make sure they’re not old etc. Or is it a bit too creepy.) :wtf:

The butt and signature deciphering convo early was hilarious, thanks for brightening my weekend. Not sold on Dan Lester, but I loved how everyone's mobilised their detective skills. #danlestergate

But he's there consensually though! Genuinely made me laugh. Consensually with conditions that he will subtly enforce, maybe(!)
Brick walls, I'm telling you.

I'm not a fan of Hazel, she gives me the impression of having a problem with D&P fandom and I get overprotective lol.

pixlexia wrote: Some of Hazel's comments seemed passive aggressive to me, but I think I'm the only one who thought that, so I won't think too hard about it. Idk, it seems like a lot of people enjoy making snarky comments about the Dan and Phil fanbase, and maybe it's out of jealousy, maybe it's just them being silly and friendly, I don't know, but I'll take it as a grain of salt. I guess I'm just a sensitive person and I always end up feeling alienated and forgotten about as an older-ish fan. (I also couldn't imagine being in their shoes and having people sort of poke fun at the source of your career, but like I said, I'm a sensitive person. I'll stop caring about it lol. I'm sure they really don't care.)

This (And I don't like making fun of kids and teenagers overall)

Anyway I liked the video, it was an interesting conversation. You guys already covered most topics so I don't have much to add... Though I need to mention that Hazel looked amazing, image goals tbh.

yonahime wrote: Anyway when i first watch his answer, i thought 'wow he must have been very content with his life' because i'm very much the exact opposites.

Yeah, same.

Edit: to quote the post under mine because there are no thumbs up

alittledizzy wrote:Not even gonna try to quote on my phone, but I've always had the understanding that it was the phandom Hazel had a problem with - not Dan and Phil. She seems quite genuinely fond of them (particularly Phil).

I agree

Not even gonna try to quote on my phone, but I've always had the understanding that it was the phandom Hazel had a problem with - not Dan and Phil. She seems quite genuinely fond of them (particularly Phil).

deerly wrote:

idk wrote:

greatnessflicker wrote:

Stakhanov wrote: sidenote: Dan follows @KimKierkegaard on twitter. It's hillarious. It brings you "The philosophy of Søren Kierkegaard mashed with the tweets and observations of Kim Kardashian."

Haha, that's great. Reminds me of the time he responded to a tweet (which was in response to his should-we-have-doritos-or-popcorn tweet) that said "sartre's claim that we live in anguish because we are free reminds me a lot of you" with "i find that principle applies to my life far too often but i love that this tweet in particular made you think of it." Wonder if dan has ever read some existential literature to go with his brand.

He's mentioned reading Camus' The Stranger which is intriguing. (he never talked about what he thought about it though (much to my dismay))

Omg when?? That's one of my favourite books

I know that this might not be really helpful but if I remember correctly he got is as a Christmas present and read it during Christmas break. He mentioned it during liveshow but I'm not sure if it was the first liveshow of 2014 or 2015 and I don't really have time to watch them again. Or was it a birthday present? Oh well my memory doesn't serve me right.

vincentian wrote:Re: THE DEATH DISCUSSION
Pls tell me someone has a collection of video clips on this (I remember Phils has said that everything with old people in movies gets him emotional & he likes to visit his parents often to make sure they’re not old etc. Or is it a bit too creepy.) :wtf:

I don't have a collection of videos documenting Phil's apparent fear of death/old age but I'd love to see one.

Sometimes the creepy stuff interests me most. Like I'm weirdly fascinated by the theory that Dan wants to look like Phil. If anyone has a list relating to that, I'd like to be interested.

And now:

WHERE DOES THE DRINK GO? HOW QUICKLY IS HE DRINKING?
I have taken screenshots.

You can use them chart how the level of his drink changes throughout the video. Also, compare it to Hazel's.
These screenshots are in order.
He takes his last sip and then there's one more clip where there's still some of the drink left.
After that, for the last three minutes neither of them has a drink in their hand.

Any interesting conclusions/observations?

Oh my god, I'm finally back. I've missed you all so! (Watch the MTV Movie Awards tonight. I busted my ass on it. Seriously, I can barely walk now.)

I see I'm now about 40 pages behind. Jesus guys.

Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so I don't have to dedicate an entire day to this?

cora808 wrote:Oh my god, I'm finally back. I've missed you all so! (Watch the MTV Movie Awards tonight. I busted my ass on it. Seriously, I can barely walk now.)

I see I'm now about 40 pages behind. Jesus guys.

Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so I don't have to dedicate an entire day to this?

What is the last thing you remember reading?

cora808 wrote:Oh my god, I'm finally back. I've missed you all so! (Watch the MTV Movie Awards tonight. I busted my ass on it. Seriously, I can barely walk now.)

I see I'm now about 40 pages behind. Jesus guys.

Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so I don't have to dedicate an entire day to this?

No idea where you left off so this is all recentish:
- Myself and spider tracked down and shared the Weakest Link ep Phil was on, it ended up getting uploaded to youtube with a sassy description saying we were selfish for not sharing
- Handwriting deciphering on 'The Rules' sheet that was visible in a couple of videos back in Manchester, we've concluded that Dan maybe signed it as Dan Lester as a joke?
- Phil, Martyn & Cornelia are in Florida already for a Lester family holiday before the tour starts, Dan seems to still be in London for some reason
- Tipsy Talk with Hazel, Phil discusses death a little bit but generally doesn't get tipsy enough Phil's video with Hazel should be up tomorrow apparently
Think that's about it?

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

vincentian wrote:- Loved the Tipsy talk video in general. Phil seems to genuinely like Hazel, probably finds her personality more mature that your average youtuber. Also quirky guy Phil TM image maintained.
- Totally agree with what phamnotof said about Phil being subtly supercontrolling about the way he appeared on camera and taking over the conversation in general. I guess rip our dreams of him doing a podcast.
- There were a few awkward moments, but it really felt like Hazel's talking to "youtube royalty" throughout the video, those will be accepted by everybody including Hazel as his adorable little quirks (which they are). Phil is Mr Charm.

Re: THE DEATH DISCUSSION
Pls tell me someone has a collection of video clips on this (I remember Phils has said that everything with old people in movies gets him emotional & he likes to visit his parents often to make sure they’re not old etc. Or is it a bit too creepy.) :wtf:

The butt and signature deciphering convo early was hilarious, thanks for brightening my weekend. Not sold on Dan Lester, but I loved how everyone's mobilised their detective skills. #danlestergate

But he's there consensually though! Genuinely made me laugh. Consensually with conditions that he will subtly enforce, maybe(!)
Brick walls, I'm telling you.

Brick walls indeed. Maybe Dan's (planned) series Going deep wasn't successful also because of that. #Philshareanopinion2k16

oqua wrote:WHERE DOES THE DRINK GO? HOW QUICKLY IS HE DRINKING?

Phil seems to have spilled his drink at some point + Hazel has put clips together not in chronological order + something was definitely edited out? There was a jumpcut after "I'll have Dan"

I feel like Phil is the kind of person who is constantly aware of how much the others (the people he's drinking around) have left in their glasses and makes sure he's drinking at the same pace as everyone else (or even slower because he doesn't want to get smashed before anyone else and risk losing control over himself?) ?...

edit: or maybe everyone does this I don't know, now I'm really curious

bluebox-away wrote:

cora808 wrote:Oh my god, I'm finally back. I've missed you all so! (Watch the MTV Movie Awards tonight. I busted my ass on it. Seriously, I can barely walk now.)

I see I'm now about 40 pages behind. Jesus guys.

Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so I don't have to dedicate an entire day to this?

No idea where you left off so this is all recentish:
- Myself and spider tracked down and shared the Weakest Link ep Phil was on, it ended up getting uploaded to youtube with a sassy description saying we were selfish for not sharing
- Handwriting deciphering on 'The Rules' sheet that was visible in a couple of videos back in Manchester, we've concluded that Dan maybe signed it as Dan Lester as a joke?
- Phil, Martyn & Cornelia are in Florida already for a Lester family holiday before the tour starts, Dan seems to still be in London for some reason
- Tipsy Talk with Hazel, Phil discusses death a little bit but generally doesn't get tipsy enough Phil's video with Hazel should be up tomorrow apparently
Think that's about it?

You are a goddamn life savior. (and to you and Oqua, I left off around the discussion of us having dreams about D&P)

So i did a little bit of stalking and found http://princesscrapbag.tumblr.com/tagged/dan
Not much more detail
She also has some critical phan stuff under http://princesscrapbag.tumblr.com/tagged/phan

tymyky wrote:

deerly wrote:

idk wrote:

greatnessflicker wrote:

Stakhanov wrote: sidenote: Dan follows @KimKierkegaard on twitter. It's hillarious. It brings you "The philosophy of Søren Kierkegaard mashed with the tweets and observations of Kim Kardashian."

Haha, that's great. Reminds me of the time he responded to a tweet (which was in response to his should-we-have-doritos-or-popcorn tweet) that said "sartre's claim that we live in anguish because we are free reminds me a lot of you" with "i find that principle applies to my life far too often but i love that this tweet in particular made you think of it." Wonder if dan has ever read some existential literature to go with his brand.

He's mentioned reading Camus' The Stranger which is intriguing. (he never talked about what he thought about it though (much to my dismay))

Omg when?? That's one of my favourite books

I know that this might not be really helpful but if I remember correctly he got is as a Christmas present and read it during Christmas break. He mentioned it during liveshow but I'm not sure if it was the first liveshow of 2014 or 2015 and I don't really have time to watch them again. Or was it a birthday present? Oh well my memory doesn't serve me right.

yeah, in his jan 14th, 2014 liveshow he literally says "i read the stranger by albert camus, probably means nothing to you..." and gives nothing more than that.

bluebox-away wrote: - Phil, Martyn & Cornelia are in Florida already for a Lester family holiday before the tour starts, Dan seems to still be in London for some reason

How do we know that Cornelia is already in Florida as well?

cora808 wrote:

bluebox-away wrote:

cora808 wrote:Oh my god, I'm finally back. I've missed you all so! (Watch the MTV Movie Awards tonight. I busted my ass on it. Seriously, I can barely walk now.)

I see I'm now about 40 pages behind. Jesus guys.

Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so I don't have to dedicate an entire day to this?

No idea where you left off so this is all recentish:
- Myself and spider tracked down and shared the Weakest Link ep Phil was on, it ended up getting uploaded to youtube with a sassy description saying we were selfish for not sharing
- Handwriting deciphering on 'The Rules' sheet that was visible in a couple of videos back in Manchester, we've concluded that Dan maybe signed it as Dan Lester as a joke?
- Phil, Martyn & Cornelia are in Florida already for a Lester family holiday before the tour starts, Dan seems to still be in London for some reason
- Tipsy Talk with Hazel, Phil discusses death a little bit but generally doesn't get tipsy enough Phil's video with Hazel should be up tomorrow apparently
Think that's about it?

You are a goddamn life savior. (and to you and Oqua, I left off around the discussion of us having dreams about D&P)

You're forgetting we have a new emoji. :butt:
But we'll let you work out why on your own. Everyone should be forced to read posts from the last 24hrs or so.

oqua wrote:
Sometimes the creepy stuff interests me most. Like I'm weirdly fascinated by the theory that Dan wants to look like Phil. If anyone has a list relating to that, I'd like to be interested.

That sounds fascinating. If anyone has more information on that at all, I would love to see it.

oqua wrote:
And now:

WHERE DOES THE DRINK GO? HOW QUICKLY IS HE DRINKING?
I have taken screenshots.

You can use them chart how the level of his drink changes throughout the video. Also, compare it to Hazel's.
These screenshots are in order.

He takes his last sip and then there's one more clip where there's still some of the drink left.
After that, for the last three minutes neither of them has a drink in their hand.

Any interesting conclusions/observations?

There were a few times throughout the video where Phil almost took a sip and then said something instead. It reminded me of a certain Skins UK episode/character...
IMO, it goes back to the whole control thing. Phil was focusing on the video and what he had to say in it, and he didn't seem super relaxed about the whole prospect of drinking. I'm surprised he actually did drink anything at all, even if it was just essentially milk and sugar.
* Unpopular Opinion Time *
I've always thought that Phil has gotten less comfortable over the years in his videos. I've also always seen him as not only an introvert but a bit of a perfectionist. That probably just adds to his anxieties. The fact that we see the growing pressure (i.e gaining millions of subscribers) that is put on him makes it more understandable, it makes sense why he likes to remain in control.
Sorry, this was a bit rambly. I have an 8-page history paper due in a few dayson top of a lit review and im s t r e s s i n g o u t