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My first thought was oh his project must be out before then, but even if it is, that might not be the reason. I’m just glad that their Central American fans get to see them and get the chance at a joint M&G. I feel like that’s the reason they’re going to this specific con. They’re good like that. I doubt Dan will be in LA that long. Especially if his project is something like a comedy special.

madzilla84 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:51 pm I guess the rumour that he’d still be in LA for vidcon London might have some truth to it after all. Gosh, that’s a long time. I wonder if he’ll be home by Mexico or if he’ll still be in the US and they’ll meet there? (Though I guess he could have done that for London. Hmm.) Maybe whatever he’s working on will be done by April then... many questions. (Just *delighted* he’s missing the con in my/his country lol, just my luck tbh)

Vidcon Mexico isn't until the end of April, so there's no way he'll still be in LA then. I think they're just motivated to go to Mexico because that's where they didn't make it to during II.

alittledizzy wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:57 pm

madzilla84 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:51 pm I guess the rumour that he’d still be in LA for vidcon London might have some truth to it after all. Gosh, that’s a long time. I wonder if he’ll be home by Mexico or if he’ll still be in the US and they’ll meet there? (Though I guess he could have done that for London. Hmm.) Maybe whatever he’s working on will be done by April then... many questions. (Just *delighted* he’s missing the con in my/his country lol, just my luck tbh)

Vidcon Mexico isn't until the end of April, so there's no way he'll still be in LA then. I think they're just motivated to go to Mexico because that's where they didn't make it to during II.

Agreed. I think if dan would be away for that long, phil would take the opportunity to go spend some time with his parents.

Phil did mention that his parents are going on holiday at the end of this month so I wonder if that means their annual Florida trip? It didn’t sound like he had plans to join them but maybe he’d go after Vidcon?

Honestly, I'm happy that Deppy are going to Vidcon Mexico. It's great that their viewers there have the chance to finally meet them. I presume that, if they were able to take II to Mexico, Dan probably wouldn't have attended any Vidcons this year, but it's nice that he's giving his Mexican audience a chance.

Secretstanner wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:10 pm

alittledizzy wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:57 pm

madzilla84 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:51 pm I guess the rumour that he’d still be in LA for vidcon London might have some truth to it after all. Gosh, that’s a long time. I wonder if he’ll be home by Mexico or if he’ll still be in the US and they’ll meet there? (Though I guess he could have done that for London. Hmm.) Maybe whatever he’s working on will be done by April then... many questions. (Just *delighted* he’s missing the con in my/his country lol, just my luck tbh)

Vidcon Mexico isn't until the end of April, so there's no way he'll still be in LA then. I think they're just motivated to go to Mexico because that's where they didn't make it to during II.

Agreed. I think if dan would be away for that long, phil would take the opportunity to go spend some time with his parents.

Also i don't know if I believe that Dan wouldn't spend Phil's birthday with him, that would be a first in... a decade.

I'm glad they're finally making it up to everyone in Mexico that have been waiting! Anyways, I hope Dan won't be in LA over Phil's birthday. To me, birthdays aren't a big deal but Phil obviously values celebrating his (good for him) so ngl, it would make me sad if dan wasn't there for him. I'm sure Phil would have his friends and family anyways but it wouldn't be the same.
I've seen a few people on twitter talking about separate meet and greets for vidcon Mexico but really can't imagine them doing that. I don't think they would make their fans choose between them in the lottery and I can see a lot of people being unhappy about it.

I guess that dan has a big enough reputation that no matter what he would get invited but it’s a bit baffling bc if I remember correctly Nathan Zed was not invited to vidcon last year bc he took a year semi off and barely uploaded.

I doubt dan will be in LA for that long. Like he could already be back rn. After that person seeing him hiking he hasn’t been spotted again. I mean it would be nice if he told us as much but alas that is not what dan’s like.

It is a bit unfair to other creators tbh. And regarding separate m&g, it would be awful, but at the same time they're very adamant that they're separate creators and not a duo anymore. At one point they will have to accept they need to either separate their audiences and it might happen sooner or later that their fans might have to choose to go to either of their events.

Heh, well once again goodness knows, but a man could even tell his own audience more than one tiny fact at a time. Whatever, I don’t need thoughts while I’m stuck in my room with my back pain (which is getting better, all other muscles are falling over themselves trying to hold me upright and not lean towards the left).

May I offer a translation of the pages about them, cos I totally have a Spanish degree and didn’t need google translate to help with a few words (actually just ‘raro’ which I then realised wasn’t ‘weird’) -

Dan - He’s here, he’s queer and full of existential fear. After a decade of making us laugh and cry, Dan finally comes to Mexico.

Phil - His forehead is exposed and the suncream’s ready to be applied. Phil’s here and hopes not to fall off the stage.

True, Dan has made us cry with his deeper videos.

Ooh, Mexico’s doing a lot better for sponsors. Also I think they could use some sensitivity and keep joint m&gs anyway, choosing/only getting one just gets messy.

The tweet very much makes them seem like a package deal so yikes if they do go with a separate m&g

Bad taste if it is separate m&gs bc if ii did happen then you would meet them together

Amiaw wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:03 pm

The tweet very much makes them seem like a package deal so yikes if they do go with a separate m&g

See that’s the kind of thing that throws me off.. they are separate creators now, why announcing them together?

I really am pleased for Mexican phannies, they must have pretty much given up before this.

Seems like it’d be odd for them to have a separate M&G; if you watch the little vid in the tweet (which is so cute!), they’re very much being announced together; there’s nothing from either of their solo work in the vid at all lol. But it’s their choice I suppose; just think it’d be odd. They had no joint content last year and still appeared together at vidcon US (at the meet and greet, I mean).

Obviously the dream would be a joint panel appearance but I won’t hold my breath.

Also if anyone needs a roomie uhhhh hit me up?

The separate meet and greet thing is all fan panic as far as I know, I don't think they'll do that separately. If for no other reason than, as someone else already said, they'd be making their fans pick one of them over the other. It's only being talked about how because people are anxious and I feel like it's odd that something that isn't confirmed and likely won't happen is the biggest conversational draw right now.

I also think Dan being invited makes quite a lot of sense. He had a very impactful, viral video last year and he still pulls big numbers. Business wise, it'd be silly not to invite him. As much as I love Nathan, his situation was a little different - he's never been that big. Smaller creators just had a bigger presence at Vidcon before it was bought out. Now that Hank Green isn't calling the shots, what matters most is who sells tickets and... it doesn't matter how long it's been since he made a video, Dan sells tickets.

Vidcon really just linked their profiles to dapg huh?

I respect that. I would’ve done the same.

I'm happy for people in Mexico! After everything with II went wrong they deserve their chance to finally meet Deppy.

Gonna fight him for missing Vidcon London though.

Also imo there's no reason for Vidcon to truly separate them in announcements or meet & greets. Sorry to say, but neither have really done A Thing significant enough to mark a start as truly individual creators. Their last big thing was together and that's how people want to see them, especially when they're dropping money on a Vidcon ticket and all additional costs.

I find it very sad that they let us find out on our own versus announcing they would finally make it to Mexico. But I guess that’s our relationship now. I mean, they were supposedly so upset about not getting there with II that you would think they’d be over the moon and bursting to share the good news. The big question: one m &g or two? I think they will do it together as an homage to the tbc II. But that will be weird for them to go back to a bit of a double act. Wonder if they will also do a performance together? So many questions! I wonder when the schedule will be out, seeing as that will be where we get our answers and not from them.

Susanisnotafish wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:39 pm I find it very sad that they let us find out on our own versus announcing they would finally make it to Mexico. But I guess that’s our relationship now. I mean, they were supposedly so upset about not getting there with II that you would think they’d be over the moon and bursting to share the good news.

I'm pretty sure the conventions usually announce guests and not the other way around with guests announcing themselves first. Especially when they're particularly big draws.

Same with schedules. Creators don't usually share their schedules before the convention does, creators often aren't even told what their schedules are or what panels they'll be on until after it's announced.

Catallena wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:37 pm Also imo there's no reason for Vidcon to truly separate them in announcements or meet & greets. Sorry to say, but neither have really done A Thing significant enough to mark a start as truly individual creators. Their last big thing was together and that's how people want to see them, especially when they're dropping money on a Vidcon ticket and all additional costs.

They were announced separately last year, though. Remember that panic when Phil got announced first and there was still doubts about Dan? Good times.

I’m pretty sure for both London and US last year, vidcon announced it first and then D and/or P retweeted them. So that’s probably coming soon (I would hope; I doubt all their followers also follow Vidcon Mexico, which is separate to the main Vidcon account).

Oh man that five minutes of panic!! Which is what I was hoping was the case for London this year, lol, oh well. Maybe 2021

My memory might be borked, but I feel like we were having a similar conversation when Dan was announced as a creater at VidCon Los Angeles (why is he going when he hasn't made a YouTube video in ages?) and then BIG dropped. It makes me wonder if Dan actually is still making YouTube videos, and he's using this VidCon as a deadline for whatever the next one will be.

If not, I imagine he's going for some combination of old Youtuber + Phil's partner + fans still want to meet him + fulfilling old promises to go to Mexico.

It would be really odd to me if Dan doesn't have anything out between now and VidCon Mexico for him to be there unless it's to make amends for the aborted screening of II, I'm really happy for the Mexican fans who didn't have the opportunity to meet them before but the communication (on all things) is lacking yet again, do they not listen to their management about these things because surely they must advise them about it.

I get that they are separate creators and don't want to be DanandPhil but does it have to be Dan and Phil.
The whole thing feels so odd since theres such a big crossover in fan bases even if they never work together (on camera) again it seems silly to ignore it like the merch situation if they don't want to do the DanandPhilShop why not have a option to combine all IRL merch in to one order for shipping purposes as a gesture to fans without it being joint branding. They have such a invested fan base that most creators would be grateful for but Dan really doesn't seem to be and it really rubs me the wrong way. I'm becoming a lot less invested in him and whatever project he's working on.

glitterintheair wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:45 pm

Catallena wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:37 pm Also imo there's no reason for Vidcon to truly separate them in announcements or meet & greets. Sorry to say, but neither have really done A Thing significant enough to mark a start as truly individual creators. Their last big thing was together and that's how people want to see them, especially when they're dropping money on a Vidcon ticket and all additional costs.

They were announced separately last year, though. Remember that panic when Phil got announced first and there was still doubts about Dan? Good times.

The whole 5 minutes of panic! Good times indeed. I guess it also depends on the organization of the respective events and what the rest of the guest list looks like.