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Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:06 pm
by SquishPhan
karma_yeah wrote:
bear wrote:Apparently they posted their sources so take a look at them and decide for yourself.
Anyways, the liveshow today was really cute.
Gotta hand it to you bear. You're really trying. But looks like most people here know it's trolling and don't want to feed it.
Yup, I mean those are pretty bad sources.
I can say that they are bad people, because someone I know met them and they weren't nice to them.
Source: My aunt.
Like that doesn't prove anything.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:08 pm
by Lurktacularr
Such disappointingly weak tea, even if it was legit. D-, must try harder.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:09 pm
by melon lord
SquishPhan wrote: Yup, I mean those are pretty bad sources.
I can say that they are bad people, because someone I know met them and they weren't nice to them.
Source: My aunt.
Like that doesn't prove anything.
Does your aunt also work at Nintendo? :lol:

Not gonna lie any drama and rumour just makes me break out the popcorn like mmmmmmm yes entertain me

If it was true then damn their life was already ten times more eventful than mine ever could be and that was before Youtube fame

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:13 pm
by eevee
lilMango wrote:The sources are definitely questionable, but to be honest this doesn't add much to the discussion anyway if we don't have any specific details. Broad events outlined like this are just to start drama, otherwise they would be more intricate and pose questions, etc.
I just find it funny that these people "aren't trying to start drama" and then post things like this to "expose" people without giving any detail that would actually prove anything.
Don't feed the trolls, guys. It ultimately only hurts them
There are only a few things in the entire post that we haven't heard before. Everything in the post that we haven't heard before has sources that are either unnamed and ambiguous (such as "a friend") or a blog (such as updatedphan) that is equally as ambiguous because how does updatedphan know any better than any of us?

There are no concrete sources. There is no new confirmed information.
bear wrote:Apparently they posted their sources so take a look at them and decide for yourself.
What I would say to this, and to anyone else who believes them or thinks they have any credibility: they are masters of manipulation. They would do very well in advertising or marketing or sales. From reading their blog, it's clear that they know how to construct sentences and choose words that build hype and add to their credibility. They made everyone on their blog believe that they had some huge secret that no one's heard before and that they had credible sources. What came out is neither of those things. They basically posted a phan timeline with a few details peppered in here and there that make dan and phil look bad, once again, with no sources.

I don't believe any of it, and as I suspected, it was all a big elaborate trick.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:15 pm
by 000dia000
http://postulatedphan.tumblr.com/post/1 ... none-of-my
why is tom posting in a phan blog? wtf tom

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:16 pm
by DryCereal
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Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:17 pm
by lishachi
SquishPhan wrote:Yup, I mean those are pretty bad sources.
I can say that they are bad people, because someone I know met them and they weren't nice to them.
Source: My aunt.
Like that doesn't prove anything.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:21 pm
by lilMango
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Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:24 pm
by anathema
All the "people in the same school year as them" sources don't sound legit to me. If I was someone who went to the same school at the same time as one of them, no way would I respond to someone who was a fan of their's. The fact that they would have had to stalk them/me to find my account, and then have the audacity to message me? No way would I reply. Also, I'm sure all of the "facts" from other phandom members were told to him with "I have no proof of this" and he just "accidentally" didn't include that part.

And A+ post eevee

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:26 pm
by SquishPhan
eevee wrote:
lilMango wrote:The sources are definitely questionable, but to be honest this doesn't add much to the discussion anyway if we don't have any specific details. Broad events outlined like this are just to start drama, otherwise they would be more intricate and pose questions, etc.
I just find it funny that these people "aren't trying to start drama" and then post things like this to "expose" people without giving any detail that would actually prove anything.
Don't feed the trolls, guys. It ultimately only hurts them
There are only a few things in the entire post that we haven't heard before. Everything in the post that we haven't heard before has sources that are either unnamed and ambiguous (such as "a friend") or a blog (such as updatedphan) that is equally as ambiguous because how does updatedphan know any better than any of us?

There are no concrete sources. There is no new confirmed information.
bear wrote:Apparently they posted their sources so take a look at them and decide for yourself.
What I would say to this, and to anyone else who believes them or thinks they have any credibility: they are masters of manipulation. They would do very well in advertising or marketing or sales. From reading their blog, it's clear that they know how to construct sentences and choose words that build hype and add to their credibility. They made everyone on their blog believe that they had some huge secret that no one's heard before and that they had credible sources. What came out is neither of those things. They basically posted a phan timeline with a few details peppered in here and there that make dan and phil look bad, once again, with no sources.

I don't believe any of it, and as I suspected, it was all a big elaborate trick.
Agreed eevee.
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Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:29 pm
by isabella
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Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:31 pm
by fancy_nancy
i'm not even going to comment on these rumor things i find them SO boring hahah but Phil looked really cute today, and i'm extremely excited he said he's going to watch steven universe omg omg omg pls phil yes!! can u tell how much i love su? :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:43 pm
by lurkizzle
anathema wrote:All the "people in the same school year as them" sources don't sound legit to me. If I was someone who went to the same school at the same time as one of them, no way would I respond to someone who was a fan of their's. The fact that they would have had to stalk them/me to find my account, and then have the audacity to message me? No way would I reply. Also, I'm sure all of the "facts" from other phandom members were told to him with "I have no proof of this" and he just "accidentally" didn't include that part.

And A+ post eevee
Not to mention that the people they apparently went to school with are grown men/women who probably don't know all that much about the phandom. I doubt they keep tabs/have this grudge against people they went to school with so long ago.

I kinda wish there was something of substance though. Just cause I wanted to see some drama.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:04 pm
by pearshaped34
If I'm recalling correctly that person was on here playing the martyr because people were daring to hold their previous "mistakes" against them when they had so clearly learned and moved on. :roll:
When they return to get attention from us from this latest stunt please everybody remember you don't beat trolls by giving them the attention they wanted in the first place. Every interaction you have with that person is feeding them what they want.
bear wrote: I never said it wasn't trolling. It most likely is. I'm just saying it in a unopinionated way. :)
Most likely trolling is understating things. Even (in the unlikely event) that person has solid and legit sources they are still trolling with the information and have been for months.

Also I have to point out
2008 – Early 2009:Charlie Casey and Phil Lester were in a polyamorous relationship with 3 other men.

Considering the only two named people in this so called polyamorous relationship didn't meet until what was apparently the end of the relationship (march 2009) this titbit really isn't as interesting as it initially sounds as no wild group sex sessions were apparently taking place. (Poor Phil.It's a damn shame if even ones fictional polyamorous relationship is sexless and vanilla.)
I don't really want to go into this but I wonder if D&P will have to actually do something about that person. Them saying they have evidence Phan is real is one thing and that D&P can probably quite easily ignore and allow to continue but some of their other accusations are a lot more serious and slanderous. Can they really just let them continue to spread some of the stuff they are saying about their family members?

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:07 pm
by confusedpanda
My only question about all this is, why the hell did the source updatedphan and eternallyphan?? Both of them have said multiple times they know NOTHING personal about Dan and Phil. They have just been watching for ages and just have more knowledge on their twitters and youtubers and that was it. They don't know anything about them outside of things posted publicly.
Anyways, I'm just feeding the troll by talking about all this so I'm just gonna stop.
Thought the live show was great and cannot wait to see both trailers on Wednesday!

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:10 pm
by majitzu
After the last "drama" this person made some time ago I can't be bothered to read anything of what has been wrote, like I prefer to go back to study I'm in midterms than read that. I was happy because there was 1 more page on idb :(

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:11 pm
by karma_yeah
lurkizzle wrote:
anathema wrote:All the "people in the same school year as them" sources don't sound legit to me. If I was someone who went to the same school at the same time as one of them, no way would I respond to someone who was a fan of their's. The fact that they would have had to stalk them/me to find my account, and then have the audacity to message me? No way would I reply. Also, I'm sure all of the "facts" from other phandom members were told to him with "I have no proof of this" and he just "accidentally" didn't include that part.

And A+ post eevee
Not to mention that the people they apparently went to school with are grown men/women who probably don't know all that much about the phandom. I doubt they keep tabs/have this grudge against people they went to school with so long ago.

I kinda wish there was something of substance though. Just cause I wanted to see some drama.
TBH, I think about the last place to look for actual drama would be an old married couple two people like who seem quite happily settled into whatever relationship they have.

I'm not really sure what the point of that blog was exactly. Was it #phanconfirmed? I'd say until go their separate ways, they're together. I don't see what the point of re-hashing some old news is other than attention-seeking, soz.

So yeah, anyone?

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:15 pm
by melon lord
pearshaped34 wrote: Considering the only two named people in this so called polyamorous relationship didn't meet until what was apparently the end of the relationship (march 2009) this titbit really isn't as interesting as it initially sounds as no wild group sex sessions were apparently taking place.
Unstan

sorry :lol:

Honestly none of this information sounds brand new, apart from a couple of things at the start. I remember whispers of these rumours back in the day and they were just as ridiculous then as they are now.

I've said it before, if anyone is gonna spill tea on others, you better deliver it steaming hot with a side dish of indisputable proof.

Plus Emma Blackery will forever be a bitter lemon because she got senpai-zoned from Dan and she'll relish in any opportunity to fling shit at him bc she has the maturity of a baboon (sorry that's offensive to baboons my bad). So her and her posse of lemons can go make lemonade elsewhere where they won't be sad, jealous gossipers

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:18 pm
by hannah
[offtopic]Way off topic but I love Hector and this tweet is cute. Phil really does give the best advice sometimes. :D [/offtopic]

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:23 pm
by karma_yeah
hannah wrote:[offtopic]Way off topic but I love Hector and this tweet is cute. Phil really does give the best advice sometimes. :D [/offtopic]
Cute! And excellent advice. :D

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:28 pm
by kinemacolor
not to fuel the flames but i'm almost positive this is with the posse that tried to #expose all that information on twitter earlier this summer. an offshoot blog (@exposingdan, now deleted) messaged my friend and i yesterday and claimed to be dan's brother's friend, and it got really ugly. the girls behind this do know a lot. i'm pretty sure they read here and they'll know who i am but they ended up sending a partial photo of their face to my friend and it wasn't that hard to connect faces and motives from twitter. they pulled a lot of stuff from facebook and other things you could find online and were terrifically mean to us; it didn't bother me much but seeing other people get worried and all hurt kinda made me :( anyways if it adds any proof to them not knowing shit a lot of their #facts were misconstrued and couldn't seem to get their story right, they couldn't seem to know certain addresses, as well as spelling some names wrong and not knowing names all together- just looks, as well as bounds of fanfic-esque shit they had no proof of. they seem to operate on a level of gaining enough credibility (through stalking facebooks etc) so that someone like us knows it's true, and then hitting us with bs that we can't help but question.

tldr: mean people with no facts

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:30 pm
by Lurktacularr
melon lord wrote: I've said it before, if anyone is gonna spill tea on others, you better deliver it steaming hot with a side dish of indisputable proof.


This is my point exactly. I like my tea like I like my men: strong and steaming hot.

Miss me with this tepid weak shit.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:41 pm
by dollicious
just finished watching phil's ls so here are some of my thoughts:
- new dan vs. phil uploaded tomorrow. i am someone who thinks boring content is better than no content, but i do wish they weren't doing another slither.io video.
- spooky week and undertale week are going to be separate i really like undertale and can't wait to hear their opinions on the rest of the story.
- phil you are not a "dabbing pro" please never attempt that again.
- when he was talking about their sitc award "something to tell my mom about" i just thought that was cute!!
- this wednesday both trailers will be uploaded to their channels. i am excited to see the trailers esp since he said they put a lot of time and thought into them.
- his favorite thing about his face is his eyes. (us too, phil )
- "all of our friends and family"
- i think him taking alberta and the new house plant so seriously is cute, he seems really enthusiastic about them.
- darla mention
- phil was looking fine as hell today

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:36 am
by bluewho
Regarding the "spilt tea",
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Yawn.

I think we all know what a terrible person Dan Howell is. I mean he's just abominable. Truly appalling. I think we should all expose him. Why, I have several sources messaging me right now the most scandalous things. One Mr. Joe King has just told me that Dan once killed a man. Joe Bloggs just claimed he's actually a lizard person - and they would know, because they once passed him in the street and said hello to his mother.

eevee

bear you are not the only one to be taken in by this, no one is criticizing you for giving them the benefit of the doubt. But I think you are being too generous with it in this particular case because there is no evidence to back up what they are saying.

Is UpdatedPhan aware that they have been cited as supporting these rumors? I would very much doubt it. Even if they are it's a fan run account, we have no more reason to believe rumors from them than we do from Mr Joe Bloggs and Mr Joe King.

Re: Dan & Phil part 25: 15% depth, 75% bants

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:54 am
by fancybum
bluewho wrote: Is UpdatedPhan aware that they have been cited as supporting these rumors? I would very much doubt it. Even if they are it's a fan run account, we have no more reason to believe rumors from them than we do from Mr Joe Bloggs and Mr Joe King.
updatedphan are 3 chill people who aren't into dumb drama or spreading harmful rumours, those attention-seekers just dragged that name into things to appear more legit and take advantage of somebody trying to be kind. These people don't deserve the benefit of the doubt based on past actions and continued shit-stirring. What they consider to be valuable sources is laughable and I hope they go away now that they've dropped their tween-drama-inspired retelling of info and a timeline everybody already has. Or people realize paying them any attention is a waste of everybody's time. Obviously what they really want to do is write fanfiction, as that's all they've done here. I just find it all very embarrassing for them.