Someone must've been in a...giving mood. It was a special day after all. The things we do for the ones we loveTicia wrote:I'm sorry but I must say this: Phil looks like he went to sleep at 6 AM and is dying inside, Dan glows like he spent the night having orgasms...
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Oh my god you guysstarlight-still wrote:Someone must've been in a...giving mood. It was a special day after all. The things we do for the ones we loveTicia wrote:I'm sorry but I must say this: Phil looks like he went to sleep at 6 AM and is dying inside, Dan glows like he spent the night having orgasms...
Phil must have given everything he got to look that tired next to a very glowy Dan
though they'd probably end up doing a meet-and-greet in a field
I really doubt that they won't go to it next year, only if the management has become worse and worse and is it looks unsafe, but they always say they look forward to these conventions.eevee wrote:@ SquishPhan @ fancybum
It's less that D&P aren't going this year and more that I feel like after this, they probably won't go again...hopefully I'm wrong but that just seems like the case to me. But fancybum is right in saying sitc is terribly organized and they need to get their shit together. I actually forgot about that in my original post so I'm happy you pointed that out.
On the topic of an apology I don't think it's going too far to ask that they just say "sorry we bummed a lot of people out." They don't need to get on their hands and knees and kiss the fan's asses but just acknowledging the disappointed people would be a nice gesture if you ask me.
Whilst I do agree with you to an extent, I also feel a bit sorry for those fans in the UK who didn't get a chance to go to tatinof, sitc previously and were hoping for SITC to try and meet them. Don't get me wrong, I know people in the UK do get more opportunities than those in other countries who never get to meet them but why should the people in the UK who haven't had the opportunity have to wait another year. They are British, surely it would make sense for them to do a British convention every year much like the American youtubers do the American ones (I can't speak for other countries as I don't know if they have conventions). They've already ditched the radioshow, temporarily stopped the weekly liveshows and now this, it's just a shame is all.fancybum wrote:People in the UK can wait another fucking year to let them get this world tour over with my god.
I don't see why they wouldn't go next year, unless they are no longer doing youtube or doing another tour, than no, but otherwise I think they will go again next year.eevee wrote:@ SquishPhan @ fancybum
It's less that D&P aren't going this year and more that I feel like after this, they probably won't go again...hopefully I'm wrong but that just seems like the case to me. But fancybum is right in saying sitc is terribly organized and they need to get their shit together. I actually forgot about that in my original post so I'm happy you pointed that out.
On the topic of an apology I don't think it's going too far to ask that they just say "sorry we bummed a lot of people out." They don't need to get on their hands and knees and kiss the fan's asses but just acknowledging the disappointed people would be a nice gesture if you ask me.
I'm not sure about apologies but I do agree with you guys that many that come to see them in SITC will be disappointed and that's sad. The thing is DP have been better than most, especially gleamers, in attending all the conventions. They usually star as the main youtubers that everyone comes to meet. Like Vidcon last year was a mess for Deppy fans. People were pushing and cutting, and every talk the boy were a part of were filled with loud screams after every word. That kinda defeats the purpose of them speaking if it's going to lead to screams from everyone. I felt like even other youtubers were annoyed by all the loud screams and fangirling that Deppy fans brought. I think by now they are getting really big and although they should pay respects to their roots and SITC, SITC has changed and is not what it used to be years ago. What used to be an event to get to know and appreciate a youtuber for their content is now just a mess of screaming crying fans fighting to get a picture with faves. Also with the security issues/tour I understand why Deppy can't make it! Also I believe they will make time next year so I wouldn't be too worried!eevee wrote:re: sitc. I think it's unfortunate that D&P won't be at sitc, but on top of that I almost feel like it's not fair. Youtube conventions are not a daily occurrence and they're supposed to be great opportunities for fans to be able to see and connect with their favorite creators. I've been to Playlist a few times and VidCon once, and I feel like I probably won't end up going again simply because of how much conventions have changed with bigger youtubers not going to them anymore. The lineup at sitc this year is honestly pretty bad and that's unfair to the fans in the UK who wanted to be able to see their favorites. I know this isn't just about D&P but I think D&P are contributing to this problem of bigger youtubers not attending these events and encouraging youtubers to skip out on conventions. It's not fair to the fans who wanted a chance at meeting them. it's not fair to the fans who have counted on sitc each year to be able to go and at least try to meet them. Youtube conventions just aren't the same anymore and I can't help but feel that D&P are contributing to that.missemma wrote:Aw I'm glad for the Aussies who will get to experience the glory that is tatinof but sad for those in the UK who might have hoped to meet D&P in the UK at SITC. It doesn't affect me as I was lucky enough to meet them this year anyways but there will be people who were desperate to see them at the only UK convention. I don't get why they'd shun that seeing as they've made sure to fit in both the American ones around the tour.
Like I said though, I'm super happy for those in the world who never get to see them ever! How exciting.
I really really hope you're right!! I hope they go next year! I guess I just thought that once a youtuber leaves a convention they don't come back but you're right that they look forward to these and will probably return. Thanks for being positive haha!LurkingTrash wrote:I really doubt that they won't go to it next year, only if the management has become worse and worse and is it looks unsafe, but they always say they look forward to these conventions.
And an apology: I really don't think it's necessary? But they'll probably adress that in a ls, and I don't think they need to do more than that tbh
idk, I don't feel like it's a big issue with ? I agree that big youtubers have been ditching conventions but that is more either due the poor management of SITC and (other convetions) it's mostly gleamers doing that.
But you can look to the brighter side too: this will make a few smaller (not that smaller, plenty of big but not-as-big youtubers still attend religiously) youtubers have their shine and make people who are lazy to manage a event like this properly run for their pockets and find a new way to make the even better to atract more poeple and youtubers.
missemma wrote:Whilst I do agree with you to an extent, I also feel a bit sorry for those fans in the UK who didn't get a chance to go to tatinof, sitc previously and were hoping for SITC to try and meet them. Don't get me wrong, I know people in the UK do get more opportunities than those in other countries who never get to meet them but why should the people in the UK who haven't had the opportunity have to wait another year. They are British, surely it would make sense for them to do a British convention every year much like the American youtubers do the American ones (I can't speak for other countries as I don't know if they have conventions). They've already ditched the radioshow, temporarily stopped the weekly liveshows and now this, it's just a shame is all.fancybum wrote:People in the UK can wait another fucking year to let them get this world tour over with my god.
Just to put it out there that this doesn't affect me as I wouldn't really go to a m&g style YouTube event I'm just speaking hypothetically from what I've seen on social media and just my own personal feelings on it.
SquishPhan wrote:I feel like they shouldn't have to offer any apology at all, it isn't like they promised they would go in the first place. And life just doesn't always work out the way you want it to.
I don't really mean like a huge drawn out paragraph apology I just kinda think a tweet is in order to apologize to those who are really disappointed. You're right that they didn't break a promise but they've gone in the past and to me that's enough for a fan to assume they'd go again. But maybe I'm stretching.daphenaxa wrote:sorry i missed something. how do we know they not going to SITC??
also why the fuck should they apologize? they never said they were going in the 1st place and if they miss it, it is gonna be the 1st year they do and with a good excuse as well.
kuensukki wrote:I'm not sure about apologies but I do agree with you guys that many that come to see them in SITC will be disappointed and that's sad. The thing is DP have been better than most, especially gleamers, in attending all the conventions. They usually star as the main youtubers that everyone comes to meet. Like Vidcon last year was a mess for Deppy fans. People were pushing and cutting, and every talk the boy were a part of were filled with loud screams after every word. That kinda defeats the purpose of them speaking if it's going to lead to screams from everyone. I felt like even other youtubers were annoyed by all the loud screams and fangirling that Deppy fans brought. I think by now they are getting really big and although they should pay respects to their roots and SITC, SITC has changed and is not what it used to be years ago. What used to be an event to get to know and appreciate a youtuber for their content is now just a mess of screaming crying fans fighting to get a picture with faves. Also with the security issues/tour I understand why Deppy can't make it! Also I believe they will make time next year so I wouldn't be too worried!
There's really no good solution here, they can't seem to win with us no matter what they do. Imagine they went to SITC, pushing back the end of the tour even more (I'm starting to think it will literally never end) and then people will just keep bitching even longer about droughts and cashing in and whatever else gets everyone's knickers in a twist because they're not getting what they want one way or another and whining about everything is apparently the only other substitute for entertainment. I'm happy for them to get it all over with as soon as possible so we can all get back into some kind of schedule (loool). Liveshows! Maybe the radio after Sept?! etc. Get this tour in the damn ground.missemma wrote: Whilst I do agree with you to an extent, I also feel a bit sorry for those fans in the UK who didn't get a chance to go to tatinof, sitc previously and were hoping for SITC to try and meet them. Don't get me wrong, I know people in the UK do get more opportunities than those in other countries who never get to meet them but why should the people in the UK who haven't had the opportunity have to wait another year. They are British, surely it would make sense for them to do a British convention every year much like the American youtubers do the American ones (I can't speak for other countries as I don't know if they have conventions). They've already ditched the radioshow, temporarily stopped the weekly liveshows and now this, it's just a shame is all.
Just to put it out there that this doesn't affect me as I wouldn't really go to a m&g style YouTube event I'm just speaking hypothetically from what I've seen on social media and just my own personal feelings on it.
Because the alleged Aus dates coincide with SITC.daphenaxa wrote:sorry i missed something. how do we know they not going to SITC??
LurkingTrash wrote: also: they really look like they're on the floor in that photo? idk, like trying really hard to look like jumping? the only bit that makes me doubt that they're not on the floor is phil's hair but still...
edit: no hate tho, lol, it looks really funny
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wtfamidoinghere wrote:I don't like that they are just "expected" to go to certain conventions. If fans attend one despite only being interested in a few youtubers, they should make sure those will attend before buying tickets. Didn't SITC announce the attendees a while ago? Deppy where nowhere to be seen.
I agree that it's nice of them to show up for these events without getting paid (at least vidcon and SITC don't pay youtubers, right? Not sure about playlist) and they did fit two convestions into their touring schedule. SITC just wasn't easily possible
Expecting them to apologize or even acknoledge it is saying that they are obligated to show up at SITC. I don't like that. Especially since SITC is notoriously chaotic and if your fans are as crazy as the phandom, that can quickly lead to safety issues.
Plus, if they really want to ditch SITC from now on because of it's poor organization, it's best to just keep quiet and not adress it. They can't name the reasons, because they actually know the organizers, don't they? That would be some drama
tl;dr: It's not deppy's fault that people just ASSSUME they'll be there.
(Btw, i didn't even blame gleamers for making their own event instead. I'll never expect anyone to work for free. I wouldn't work for free
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yaay! Glad you can see that too! but honestly, really big youtubers like pewdiepie don't even bother anymore because an event like that just wouldn't fit them and it would be a mess, and a lot of big youtubers that we pay attention to ae gleames so it is shocking when you don't see any of these going, we do pay more attention to the youtubers that we know off, but youtube is expanding so much and I'm constantly finding new really big youtubers I never heard before (and probs people who stay in fandoms like the deppy and gleamers also aren't going to know about).eevee wrote:I really really hope you're right!! I hope they go next year! I guess I just thought that once a youtuber leaves a convention they don't come back but you're right that they look forward to these and will probably return. Thanks for being positive haha!LurkingTrash wrote:I really doubt that they won't go to it next year, only if the management has become worse and worse and is it looks unsafe, but they always say they look forward to these conventions.
And an apology: I really don't think it's necessary? But they'll probably adress that in a ls, and I don't think they need to do more than that tbh
idk, I don't feel like it's a big issue with ? I agree that big youtubers have been ditching conventions but that is more either due the poor management of SITC and (other convetions) it's mostly gleamers doing that.
But you can look to the brighter side too: this will make a few smaller (not that smaller, plenty of big but not-as-big youtubers still attend religiously) youtubers have their shine and make people who are lazy to manage a event like this properly run for their pockets and find a new way to make the even better to atract more poeple and youtubers.
re: mostly gleamers doing that: i know, and that's exactly why I don't want to see D&P doing it, I don't want them to be at the gleamers level of selfishness. Although I don't see that happening in the future as D&P seem pretty genuinely grateful for their fans.
What a nice bright side, hopefully the smaller youtubers will be able to shine and expand their viewership!
tbh I worry for when they are big enough that it's too many screaming/pushing/crying fans to fit into an event and make panels useless tbh they are halfway there, I know that at some point they won't fit into an convention like that but I think we still have ways to go I think you're right, it just looks like an optical ilussion bc phil's shoes and dan's jacket look like they're touching the wall but it's really hard to tell the rainbow behind does not help too,kuensukki wrote:LurkingTrash wrote: also: they really look like they're on the floor in that photo? idk, like trying really hard to look like jumping? the only bit that makes me doubt that they're not on the floor is phil's hair but still...
edit: no hate tho, lol, it looks really funny
. I bet instagram has some kind of setup just to take these photographs for peeps that visit too. I agree with this.corn flakes wrote:wtfamidoinghere wrote:I don't like that they are just "expected" to go to certain conventions. If fans attend one despite only being interested in a few youtubers, they should make sure those will attend before buying tickets. Didn't SITC announce the attendees a while ago? Deppy where nowhere to be seen.
I agree that it's nice of them to show up for these events without getting paid (at least vidcon and SITC don't pay youtubers, right? Not sure about playlist) and they did fit two convestions into their touring schedule. SITC just wasn't easily possible
Expecting them to apologize or even acknoledge it is saying that they are obligated to show up at SITC. I don't like that. Especially since SITC is notoriously chaotic and if your fans are as crazy as the phandom, that can quickly lead to safety issues.
Plus, if they really want to ditch SITC from now on because of it's poor organization, it's best to just keep quiet and not adress it. They can't name the reasons, because they actually know the organizers, don't they? That would be some drama
tl;dr: It's not deppy's fault that people just ASSSUME they'll be there.
(Btw, i didn't even blame gleamers for making their own event instead. I'll never expect anyone to work for free. I wouldn't work for free
Like I'm sorry but now I checked: the ballot is july, till now deppy isn't on the list,so
What do you mean 'to see a load of ukeleles'? I am not familiar on how sitc works.Also, it's funny that you'll give the money to Dan's shoe fund. He has some expensive but ugly shoes. Can the money go to sweater fund instead?jaej wrote: re: the money and stuff, for someone like me who doesnt live in london, i'd be paying easily over £100 to get there, get somewhere to stay, get a ticket and get food and stuff.
its easy for salty youtubers who live in london to claim its cheaper and fairer, but its only in one place whereas a tour... tours. it gives more people an opportunity. same with the gleam stuff, it was expensive but more people had an opportunity to get what they actually wanted, not spend a load on transport to see a load of ukeleles. if i needed to fork out £100 to meet them, id rather it went straight to dans shoe fund rather than to everything else tbh. plus it gives the bigger youtubers more freedom in providing what they need. they need to be realistic, certain people are going to need more security etc, d+p dont get a drake level guard at sitc.
I think that if D&P get "too big" the conventions should just get bigger to match them. It's a shame that bigger youtubers aren't going to these conventions because of the sheer amount of fans and that ties back to my original point that YT conventions are going downhill. I don't think it's just the youtuber's faults for not going, I now see after all you lovely people responded that part of it is the conventions' faults for not being able to accommodate or organize so many people. I think it's possible to hold a bigger convention and organize it, isn't that what comic con does?LurkingTrash wrote: I mean, sitc is a mess, but always make sure to attent these main events so I wouldn't worry just yet.
Yeah I would rather him spending my money into expensive sweaters than shoesDiyes_Celine wrote:What do you mean 'to see a load of ukeleles'? I am not familiar on how sitc works.Also, it's funny that you'll give the money to Dan's shoe fund. He has some expensive but ugly shoes. Can the money go to sweater fund instead?jaej wrote: re: the money and stuff, for someone like me who doesnt live in london, i'd be paying easily over £100 to get there, get somewhere to stay, get a ticket and get food and stuff.
its easy for salty youtubers who live in london to claim its cheaper and fairer, but its only in one place whereas a tour... tours. it gives more people an opportunity. same with the gleam stuff, it was expensive but more people had an opportunity to get what they actually wanted, not spend a load on transport to see a load of ukeleles. if i needed to fork out £100 to meet them, id rather it went straight to dans shoe fund rather than to everything else tbh. plus it gives the bigger youtubers more freedom in providing what they need. they need to be realistic, certain people are going to need more security etc, d+p dont get a drake level guard at sitc.
