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Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:38 pm**

lurker wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:28 pm interesting theories about the dating game, but why not consider the following:
- the company offered them a free game to choose and they picked this one because it looked funny, but have never once played it
- one of them got it for the other one as a present and now they play it every thursday at 4 pm
- they bought it because they're growing apart from each other and were looking for a possibility to actively engage with each other again
- they play it with briony and wirrow, but dan and wirrow are competing against phil and briony
- they play it when janice and dan's long-term long-distance bf come to visit
- janice and dan's long-term long-distance bf play it together when deps are out of town because they're secretly having an affair (deppy went on one holiday too much together without them)
- janice gifted the game to phil when they recently separated once again as a passive-aggresive note that he should check his communication skills
- they're becoming game designers and are on a quest to literally buy every game from that company to check out the competition
- phil was inspired by his tinder spon to finally make an account. his love for reality tv also inspired him to always invite a total of 10 people to their house at once, then play the game with each of them and go on the actual date with whoever scores highest

My vote is for the bolded one just because businessman!Phil rise.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:55 pm**

I was thinking though, Big Potato Games would be the perfect company for them to collab with for their own board game? If DJ Matt Edmondson did it, it's more than feasible that they might be doing something like that? What do people think? I think this is my first ever D+P prediction yay!

Edit: Well yeah like Lurker says above in bold!

dammit

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:16 pm**

are we still on the board game thing, i was mostly just having a laugh but this has become a Serious Discussion. i was going to ask does it really matter whether they were given it or whatever and then i remember that this is a place where people have had in depth (lol) discussions about some dudes teeth so like i should just shut up (not that its a bad thing the fact that people are so passionate about everything is part of the appeal)

but i definitely disagree that they are giving us hints about their relationship, i just can't imagine them going to that amount of effort for something so meh.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:18 pm**

New thread title: Exposing themselves through board games.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:29 pm**

re: board game discussion: the phandom is an entertaining place.

re: possible mental health video: the idea makes me so excited!! i have to say i am someone who personally doesn't have many boundaries about being open, and it just interests me the most when people share their honest life experiences, struggles and so on. dan making a genuine video about an aspect of his mental health would be something i'd be so honored to hear about, and so happy to be told.

what I would like him to do with it:
- tell something in his own experience, e.g. situations he deals with, how he figured stuff out, what it means to him
- talk about either him doing therapy himself, or pointing out that professional help is important (and maybe, if applicable, share some services that are relevant to the specific topic he'd talk about, if he knows of those)

what I hope he doesn't do:
- only talk about how awful it is (in possibly a jokey way) without having any sort of mention of what could help with that problem (e.g. therapy)

what i'd be okay with either way:
- a #relatable video
- a genuine storytime video, where he opens up more
- sketches and that kind of stuff
- ... uh probably more but i am tired

i am passionate about this topic, can you tell

re: them going on a vacation: great. now that i am actually in a tourist-y region for once, I'll have to constantly be paranoid to run into them on the streets, even though it is highly unlikely and there's twelve billion places they could actually go.

re: moving: i was never really on that train, but by now i genuinely believe they're staying in their flat for a little bit longer still (at least several months). they ordered new broadband, they seem nowhere near packed - i just don't believe they're moving out already, especially since there seems to be a professional big thing ahead.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:40 pm**

I appear to have missed a whole lot of board game discussion.

To be honest, I can't imagine wanting to play that on a first date, seems far too awkward to actually be enjoyable, as well as the fact that a lot of the questions seem like you might need to know someone to be able to answer, such as "Who has weirder parents?"

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:43 pm**

wow... a relatable™ tweet from Phil, that doesn't even include animals or food ? deppy really are merging into one being

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm**

[Offtopic]though, i have to say, about the mental health video... part of me is very anxious because i'm not sure he will talk about therapy in a video like that. i mean, CHYPS (free mental healthcare for youth) in the uk is crap. absolutely crap. as in, you're left with attempting before they'll offer you any support. and maybe he never needed the service when he was under 18/has always gone privately which is a bit?? i mean, most people can't afford private therapy at £200+ a session. the majority of his fanbase are young and don't have the money to pay for it, you know. and it's not good to promote going to CHYPS either because he wouldn't/might know the service does a lot more harm than good.

plus i'd hate it if he has mental health issues but hasn't been properly diagnosed by a psychiatrist for any disorders. maybe i'm a bit harsh, but i have a massive issue with people who self diagnose themselves - after waiting four years to be assessed for my own disorders, it's a slap in the face to see others read a few articles and diagnose themselves with all these symptoms and disorders. so, i don't know. i feel like he'd just talk about himself and his possible anxiety and depression (which is good, but i'd be alarmed if anyone with literally any other disorder felt helped in anyway by that). he wouldn't bother to educate/send positive messages to his audience concerning disorders that go outside of the most common ones in the UK, like schizophrenia or OCD or personality disorders. it'd be controversial and upsetting to some and just... yeah. not saying he can't do a video on mental health, god i'd love it if he did, but i have very low expectations.[/Offtopic]

just venting a bit there, i have the same thoughts about any random youtuber talking about mental health on their channel tbh. though i really admire people like anna campbell who put a lot of effort into videos that educate people about all things mental health-related, not just a small personal part. i love dan with all of me but mental health is a touchy subject and i can't be the only one who would be disheartened if it wasn't as sensitive and inclusionary as possible.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm**

AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:43 pm
wow... a relatable™ tweet from Phil, that doesn't even include animals or food ? deppy really are merging into one being

To be honest, it is very relatable. I do exactly that every time I feel something is wrong. 0/10 do not recommend

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:06 pm**

Ablissa wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm
AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:43 pm
wow... a relatable™ tweet from Phil, that doesn't even include animals or food ? deppy really are merging into one being
To be honest, it is very relatable. I do exactly that every time I feel something is wrong. 0/10 do not recommend

this is why I'm literally banned from looking up symptoms (it's an agreement I've made with a former therapist and I'm sticking to it.)

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:12 pm**

AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:43 pm
wow... a relatable™ tweet from Phil, that doesn't even include animals or food ? deppy really are merging into one being

He should make this into a video sometime when he's sick. Just list out all his symptoms and then google them and find out what "diseases" he has. Then idk actually do the right thing and go to the doctor.

I don't know how the board game discussion has turned this place against each other, you'd think this would unify IDB but noooo still bickering like children. Just be happy with what you got. I like the board game "proof", sometimes you need something positive to kick you in the right direction and make you feel a lot more certain with yourself. I know some people are very resolute with their phan beliefs, but I'm not. Sorry guys. I'm just that insecure and been gas-lit so much, that the board game lit a fire beneath me and now I'm on board with phan. And now I'm made to feel bad for using the board game as a confirmation? Leave me alone

The kind of spon theories were interesting and did kind of point it in another direction, but we don't really have any proof of the spon either, it's just a theory after all. It's likely, but I wouldn't just settle for that to play it safe, and Stakhanov just accept phan into your heart

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:27 pm**

000dia000 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:12 pm I don't know how the board game discussion has turned this place against each other, you'd think this would unify IDB but noooo still bickering like children. Just be happy with what you got. I like the board game "proof", sometimes you need something positive to kick you in the right direction and make you feel a lot more certain with yourself. I know some people are very resolute with their phan beliefs, but I'm not. Sorry guys. I'm just that insecure and been gas-lit so much, that the board game lit a fire beneath me and now I'm on board with phan. And now I'm made to feel bad for using the board game as a confirmation? Leave me alone The kind of spon theories were interesting and did kind of point it in another direction, but we don't really have any proof of the spon either, it's just a theory after all. It's likely, but I wouldn't just settle for that to play it safe, and Stakhanov just accept phan into your heart

To be honest, I don't think anything could unify IDB's opinions. For most people, the whole phan discussion has turned into one of those things where anything that goes against your opinion is just going to make you believe more in what you already did. Not that this is a bad thing, of course. It's a lot better than one big hivemind where no one goes against the common opinion.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 pm**

gohomohowell wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm [Offtopic]though, i have to say, about the mental health video... part of me is very anxious because i'm not sure he will talk about therapy in a video like that. i mean, CHYPS (free mental healthcare for youth) in the uk is crap. absolutely crap. as in, you're left with attempting before they'll offer you any support. and maybe he never needed the service when he was under 18/has always gone privately which is a bit?? i mean, most people can't afford private therapy at £200+ a session. the majority of his fanbase are young and don't have the money to pay for it, you know. and it's not good to promote going to CHYPS either because he wouldn't/might know the service does a lot more harm than good.

plus i'd hate it if he has mental health issues but hasn't been properly diagnosed by a psychiatrist for any disorders. maybe i'm a bit harsh, but i have a massive issue with people who self diagnose themselves - after waiting four years to be assessed for my own disorders, it's a slap in the face to see others read a few articles and diagnose themselves with all these symptoms and disorders. so, i don't know. i feel like he'd just talk about himself and his possible anxiety and depression (which is good, but i'd be alarmed if anyone with literally any other disorder felt helped in anyway by that). he wouldn't bother to educate/send positive messages to his audience concerning disorders that go outside of the most common ones in the UK, like schizophrenia or OCD or personality disorders. it'd be controversial and upsetting to some and just... yeah. not saying he can't do a video on mental health, god i'd love it if he did, but i have very low expectations.[/Offtopic]

just venting a bit there, i have the same thoughts about any random youtuber talking about mental health on their channel tbh. though i really admire people like anna campbell who put a lot of effort into videos that educate people about all things mental health-related, not just a small personal part. i love dan with all of me but mental health is a touchy subject and i can't be the only one who would be disheartened if it wasn't as sensitive and inclusionary as possible.

[Offtopic]Yeah, my experience with mental health here in America hasn't been very good either. (I'm still a minor btw)

I would hope that his fans would realize that self diagnosing is dangerous, especially since a lot of them go on Tumblr and see all that pro-self diagnosis stuff. I don't think Dan would self diagnose and hopefully would mention that people shouldn't do that in the video, like Emma Blackery mentioned it in her "I Have No Sense of Self" video. I don't think it's possible to make a 100% perfect video about mental health, but if he did make one, he should make sure that he doesn't spread any misinformation or anything like that.[/Offtopic]

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:00 pm**

000dia000 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:12 pm I don't know how the board game discussion has turned this place against each other, you'd think this would unify IDB but noooo still bickering like children. Just be happy with what you got. I like the board game "proof", sometimes you need something positive to kick you in the right direction and make you feel a lot more certain with yourself. I know some people are very resolute with their phan beliefs, but I'm not. Sorry guys. I'm just that insecure and been gas-lit so much, that the board game lit a fire beneath me and now I'm on board with phan. And now I'm made to feel bad for using the board game as a confirmation?

Nice to hear that your fire has been lit.

I hope I didn't make you feel bad, I just don't get games like that so it doesn't do anything for me.

I'm not at all resolute in my phan beliefs and for the same reason as you. I find the whole gaslighting thing really interesting. How it became something that went beyong dnp and was done between members of the phandom. With that said, if they turn out to be together, I'll never forgive them for making feel like that. Still love them, though.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:14 pm**

QuiteFriendly wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:00 pm
000dia000 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:12 pm I don't know how the board game discussion has turned this place against each other, you'd think this would unify IDB but noooo still bickering like children. Just be happy with what you got. I like the board game "proof", sometimes you need something positive to kick you in the right direction and make you feel a lot more certain with yourself. I know some people are very resolute with their phan beliefs, but I'm not. Sorry guys. I'm just that insecure and been gas-lit so much, that the board game lit a fire beneath me and now I'm on board with phan. And now I'm made to feel bad for using the board game as a confirmation?
Nice to hear that your fire has been lit.
I hope I didn't make you feel bad, I just don't get games like that so it doesn't do anything for me.

I'm not at all resolute in my phan beliefs and for the same reason as you. I find the whole gaslighting thing really interesting. How it became something that went beyong dnp and was done between members of the phandom. With that said, if they turn out to be together, I'll never forgive them for making feel like that. Still love them, though.

Yeah, it's weird circle of realizing what they're doing/have done, kind of hating yourself, but also can't get out of the pattern. Yes, gaslighting it is something that the phandom definitely continues to do, even though deppy don't really try to do it as much anymore. Though, if I'm being honest, Phil sleeping in his bedroom definitely constitutes as this, and I have to take a break for a few days as people defending him sleeping in his own bed just sounds like too much reaching and fanatical. Sometimes a lot of the theories people make up get a bit too fantastic and I kind of have to take a step back and realize that they're not fictional beings, they're real people. I don't really believe they go to get lengths to "drop hints" or convey a deeper or subliminal message. But then they're so bloody wacky I don't know what to think. This fandom is kind of reaches too far, and it's difficult to sort of distinguish at what point such assumptions should be based on "common sense" (as in, basing the belief on their relationship to something building up over the past 8 years) or that these assumptions are nothing but a built up conspiracy that can't be shaken. Lovely stuff. Anyway, I wasn't too upset, I was just joking but thanks anyway

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:55 pm**

these tweets are a thing:

evan also tweeted but no1curr.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:02 pm**

you guys are on fire recently...

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onetruetrash wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 pm
gohomohowell wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm though, i have to say, about the mental health video... part of me is very anxious because i'm not sure he will talk about therapy in a video like that. i mean, CHYPS (free mental healthcare for youth) in the uk is crap. absolutely crap. as in, you're left with attempting before they'll offer you any support. and maybe he never needed the service when he was under 18/has always gone privately which is a bit?? i mean, most people can't afford private therapy at £200+ a session. the majority of his fanbase are young and don't have the money to pay for it, you know. and it's not good to promote going to CHYPS either because he wouldn't/might know the service does a lot more harm than good.

plus i'd hate it if he has mental health issues but hasn't been properly diagnosed by a psychiatrist for any disorders. maybe i'm a bit harsh, but i have a massive issue with people who self diagnose themselves - after waiting four years to be assessed for my own disorders, it's a slap in the face to see others read a few articles and diagnose themselves with all these symptoms and disorders. so, i don't know. i feel like he'd just talk about himself and his possible anxiety and depression (which is good, but i'd be alarmed if anyone with literally any other disorder felt helped in anyway by that). he wouldn't bother to educate/send positive messages to his audience concerning disorders that go outside of the most common ones in the UK, like schizophrenia or OCD or personality disorders. it'd be controversial and upsetting to some and just... yeah. not saying he can't do a video on mental health, god i'd love it if he did, but i have very low expectations.

just venting a bit there, i have the same thoughts about any random youtuber talking about mental health on their channel tbh. though i really admire people like anna campbell who put a lot of effort into videos that educate people about all things mental health-related, not just a small personal part. i love dan with all of me but mental health is a touchy subject and i can't be the only one who would be disheartened if it wasn't as sensitive and inclusionary as possible.
Yeah, my experience with mental health here in America hasn't been very good either. (I'm still a minor btw)

I would hope that his fans would realize that self diagnosing is dangerous, especially since a lot of them go on Tumblr and see all that pro-self diagnosis stuff. I don't think Dan would self diagnose and hopefully would mention that people shouldn't do that in the video, like Emma Blackery mentioned it in her "I Have No Sense of Self" video. I don't think it's possible to make a 100% perfect video about mental health, but if he did make one, he should make sure that he doesn't spread any misinformation or anything like that.

Re: possible mental health video, I understand that this is very sensitive topic, but I still very much want a video from Dan if he ever feels like it, I only hope that the phandom doesn’t jump him afterwards if there's controversy (as there inevitably will be and that's what's apparently stopping him). Whatever his approach would be, I'd appreciate his talking about his own experience in any way, because any message that says "you're not alone in what you're feeling" is good in my book, it's already helpful, even if there's not much else. Also, as to my own experience and that of the people I work with, I feel obligated to say that psychiatric treatment can sometimes do more damage to a person than no treatment at all, so self diagnose isn't good, but saying, especially to young people, that you should put all your trust in institutional psychiatry and in medication can be pretty dangerous for them, too. The important thing is always to talk about it and seek support from the people you trust, so I'll be happy if Dan contributes to his fans opening up about their problems. To his credit, though, he's already been pretty consistent in saying just that (while at the same time usually trashing his parents).
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Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm**

well I guess all I'm doing tonight is posting tweets but ...

quoted tweet is :

Am I the only one finding it kinda weird when other youtubers talk so freely about Dan and Phil (but not to them)?
Like idk this is just one example but tweets like that happen quite often; it's the kind of stuff I would tweet about either celebs -that will never see it- or very close friends -that will 100% see it and reply- but deffo not about coworkers?
Feels weird to discuss people you know without them being actually included but where they can see it.

edit : oops I'm so sorry, rizzo posted those right before me but for some reason IDB didn't warn me, sorry !!

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:08 pm**

onetruetrash wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 pm
gohomohowell wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:59 pm [Offtopic]though, i have to say, about the mental health video... part of me is very anxious because i'm not sure he will talk about therapy in a video like that. i mean, CHYPS (free mental healthcare for youth) in the uk is crap. absolutely crap. as in, you're left with attempting before they'll offer you any support. and maybe he never needed the service when he was under 18/has always gone privately which is a bit?? i mean, most people can't afford private therapy at £200+ a session. the majority of his fanbase are young and don't have the money to pay for it, you know. and it's not good to promote going to CHYPS either because he wouldn't/might know the service does a lot more harm than good.

plus i'd hate it if he has mental health issues but hasn't been properly diagnosed by a psychiatrist for any disorders. maybe i'm a bit harsh, but i have a massive issue with people who self diagnose themselves - after waiting four years to be assessed for my own disorders, it's a slap in the face to see others read a few articles and diagnose themselves with all these symptoms and disorders. so, i don't know. i feel like he'd just talk about himself and his possible anxiety and depression (which is good, but i'd be alarmed if anyone with literally any other disorder felt helped in anyway by that). he wouldn't bother to educate/send positive messages to his audience concerning disorders that go outside of the most common ones in the UK, like schizophrenia or OCD or personality disorders. it'd be controversial and upsetting to some and just... yeah. not saying he can't do a video on mental health, god i'd love it if he did, but i have very low expectations.[/Offtopic]

just venting a bit there, i have the same thoughts about any random youtuber talking about mental health on their channel tbh. though i really admire people like anna campbell who put a lot of effort into videos that educate people about all things mental health-related, not just a small personal part. i love dan with all of me but mental health is a touchy subject and i can't be the only one who would be disheartened if it wasn't as sensitive and inclusionary as possible.
[Offtopic]Yeah, my experience with mental health here in America hasn't been very good either. (I'm still a minor btw)

I would hope that his fans would realize that self diagnosing is dangerous, especially since a lot of them go on Tumblr and see all that pro-self diagnosis stuff. I don't think Dan would self diagnose and hopefully would mention that people shouldn't do that in the video, like Emma Blackery mentioned it in her "I Have No Sense of Self" video. I don't think it's possible to make a 100% perfect video about mental health, but if he did make one, he should make sure that he doesn't spread any misinformation or anything like that.[/Offtopic]

[Offtopic] I agree that self-diagnosis can be dangerous, but I personally went six years without being diagnosed by a professional because I was absolutely terrified to see or talk to anyone about my problems, and the idea that there was a word to describe what I was experiencing and that there were other people who were the same way was the only thing that kept me going during that time. There's a distinction between people who self-diagnose because they are unable for whatever reason to see a professional and get assessed and people who self-diagnose after reading a tiny bit about a disorder or because they think mental illness would make them interesting-- but I honestly don't think that many people in the latter category exist? Or if they do, they're young (I could absolutely be wrong about this, but I haven't personally come across many people like that).
I don't really know how personal or general I would want Dan to be in a video about mental health, but such a video would make me very happy. I hope it would be a cathartic and positive experience for him, but it could also cause him a great deal of stress because it's so touchy-- we're already having these sorts of conversations over the hypothetical content of a video.[/Offtopic]

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:23 pm**

AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm well I guess all I'm doing tonight is posting tweets but ...

quoted tweet is :
Am I the only one finding it kinda weird when other youtubers talk so freely about Dan and Phil (but not to them)?
Like idk this is just one example but tweets like that happen quite often; it's the kind of stuff I would tweet about either celebs -that will never see it- or very close friends -that will 100% see it and reply- but deffo not about coworkers?
Feels weird to discuss people you know without them being actually included but where they can see it.

edit : oops I'm so sorry, rizzo posted those right before me but for some reason IDB didn't warn me, sorry !!

Agree that it's a little weird to talk about Dan and Phil like that.

Also, they obviously haven't seen the wonder that is the phanime.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:27 pm**

AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm well I guess all I'm doing tonight is posting tweets but ...

quoted tweet is :
Am I the only one finding it kinda weird when other youtubers talk so freely about Dan and Phil (but not to them)?
Like idk this is just one example but tweets like that happen quite often; it's the kind of stuff I would tweet about either celebs -that will never see it- or very close friends -that will 100% see it and reply- but deffo not about coworkers?
Feels weird to discuss people you know without them being actually included but where they can see it.

edit : oops I'm so sorry, rizzo posted those right before me but for some reason IDB didn't warn me, sorry !!

Tessa actually does know them though, so it's not that weird to me

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:48 pm**

AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:43 pm
wow... a relatable™ tweet from Phil, that doesn't even include animals or food ? deppy really are merging into one being

wonder if Dan would be a pallbearer or would he be the grieving widow? Either way it will give him a reason to wear black.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:27 am**

@000dia000 & @QuiteFriendly, i don't understand what you mean by 'gaslighting' in this context? i can kind of see where you're coming from wrt the phandom and starting conspiratorial and/or anxious rumors, but how does the bedroom thing constitute gaslighting, especially if you don't believe dnp "plant seeds" or w/e intentionally?

the definition of 'gaslighting' i know, which is in the context of abusive interpersonal relationships, is when person A makes person B, who trusts person A, disregard their own knowledge of reality in favor of a lie told by person A. for example, person A might blow the rent money on going out one night, and then when the discrepancy in accounting is noted, convince person B that person B must have somehow lost it, citing the alleged "facts" that person B is forgetful and bad at balancing checkbooks. Person B then blames themselves.

Also: phil should NOT do a video about hypochondriac tendencies; it would just give him excuse for more mpreg talk. (when i google symptoms it always tells me i either have cancer or that i'm pregnant.)

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 am**

onetruetrash wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:27 pm
AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm well I guess all I'm doing tonight is posting tweets but ...

quoted tweet is :
Am I the only one finding it kinda weird when other youtubers talk so freely about Dan and Phil (but not to them)?
Like idk this is just one example but tweets like that happen quite often; it's the kind of stuff I would tweet about either celebs -that will never see it- or very close friends -that will 100% see it and reply- but deffo not about coworkers?
Feels weird to discuss people you know without them being actually included but where they can see it.

edit : oops I'm so sorry, rizzo posted those right before me but for some reason IDB didn't warn me, sorry !!
Tessa actually does know them though, so it's not that weird to me

Does Tessa know Dan and Phil? The only stuff I can find of them together is them interviewing her.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 am**

I'd really only be up for a mental health video if it truly were about his experiences and without trying too hard to be relatable or romanticize it like some other YouTubers. I dunno, I feel nervous about it.. my mental health is very personal to me and while it can be important for influencers to talk about these things to their audience I always feel some type of way about videos like it. Especially with Dan's track record of turning existentialism into branding.

onetruetrash wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:27 pm
AroboticPhil wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm well I guess all I'm doing tonight is posting tweets but ...

quoted tweet is :
Am I the only one finding it kinda weird when other youtubers talk so freely about Dan and Phil (but not to them)?
Like idk this is just one example but tweets like that happen quite often; it's the kind of stuff I would tweet about either celebs -that will never see it- or very close friends -that will 100% see it and reply- but deffo not about coworkers?
Feels weird to discuss people you know without them being actually included but where they can see it.

edit : oops I'm so sorry, rizzo posted those right before me but for some reason IDB didn't warn me, sorry !!
Tessa actually does know them though, so it's not that weird to me

Honestly that just makes it weirder to me. I expect better from Hank as well. It's really no wonder D&P don't mingle with other YouTubers so much, if I were them I'd constantly feel like I couldn't trust anyone.

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 54: Born in the fires of the internet