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ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

She picks Joe Sugg and then Dan? I think she misheard the question...lol

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

well, Dan is technically not married (that we know of). You're a free man unless someone put a ring on it

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same papi phil all the way

also am i the only one that finds Louis annoying like 95% of the time?

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same I mean, who wouldn't want Phil making breakfast for them

Recent thoughts:
I mean, this is a gossip site, people are going to discuss certain aspects to death and already cute, pretty concepts about phan have become trivialized and as a game for phan members but not deppy themselves. I don't enjoy celebrating their "anniversary" because it's not their anniversary, it's the phandoms. After a while everything becomes meaningless, picked apart, thrown about and just becomes rotten. I skim over it because I can no longer bear read it. Personally, I want them to be happy and it's not my agenda to define their happiness by my own values, or the phandoms. I don't think they celebrate their phanniversary because it's not really their anniversary, they have a whole life we don't know about and what we think is a large concept of their lives could be complete meaningless. We know a lot about danisnotonfire and AmazingPhil and I know for a fact that they're not together, that they're just best friends. But we don't know the real Dan or Phil, if they are together, not or even completely different people. Maybe I'll always like this wall between the "creator" and "audience" and for them to have some privacy, some special moment in their lives kept sentimental between the two of them. Sometimes my mind is very much kept within the mind-frame that speculation does not exist outside of this forum, but in truth their onscreen "love" has become a brand and nothing really feels sacred anymore. Also that gay penguin couple broke up so love is dead anyways.

JoeAverage wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same papi phil all the way

aalso am i the only one that finds Louis annoying like 95% of the time?

Do you need to marry Dan if you choose him? If I only get to keep him for a day or 2, I'll pick Dan coz I am really want to know what he offers aside from his pretty face. Half-kidding
But seriously, Phil all the way.
I hope the "demon phannies" will not react violently.

000dia000 wrote:Recent thoughts:
I mean, this is a gossip site, people are going to discuss certain aspects to death and already cute, pretty concepts about phan have become trivialized and as a game for phan members but not deppy themselves. I don't enjoy celebrating their "anniversary" because it's not their anniversary, it's the phandoms. After a while everything becomes meaningless, picked apart, thrown about and just becomes rotten. I skim over it because I can no longer bear read it. Personally, I want them to be happy and it's not my agenda to define their happiness by my own values, or the phandoms. I don't think they celebrate their phanniversary because it's not really their anniversary, they have a whole life we don't know about and what we think is a large concept of their lives could be complete meaningless. We know a lot about danisnotonfire and AmazingPhil and I know for a fact that they're not together, that they're just best friends. But we don't know the real Dan or Phil, if they are together, not or even completely different people. Maybe I'll always like this wall between the "creator" and "audience" and for them to have some privacy, some special moment in their lives kept sentimental between the two of them. Sometimes my mind is very much kept within the mind-frame that speculation does not exist outside of this forum, but in truth their onscreen "love" has become a brand and nothing really feels sacred anymore. Also that gay penguin couple broke up so love is dead anyways.

damn, that was dark. u ok?

(Also; i just think that at the end of the day, even if they arent dating they have each other and im glad.)

melon lord wrote:

alittledizzy wrote:
I get the argument you're trying to make but here's where my own bias comes into play because as a girl who likes girls, if I see girls saying they love each other, calling each other "bby" and longing for each other my basic assumption would be that they've got something going on. And the fact that as someone with a majority lgbtq friendbase what I see when I look at same sex interactions that seem romantic is the potential for it to be romantic proves my point the other way around too, that people who are conditioned to expect everything to be straight (not because of a specific person being homophobic; just because we are a product of our environment and upbringing) are going to look at two guys being flirtatious and still just assume it's a friendship.

This conundrum actually reminds me of a game I am absolutely trash over, Life is Strange. If you know it, you know what I'm talking about.

I am a simply man, I see life is strange, I respond (I love it ahh)

I also agree with everything that has been said about phan being a seperate entity. I think it happens with other ships as well, especially fictional ones. If you are always reading fanfiction and seeing art about a ship being real, you subconsciously connect the actual "canon" people with it, whether you like that or not. (see johnlock: moffat says it's never gonna happen and people still believe in their ship... not gonna judge though cause I want to believe as well but thats enough of me being sherlock trash sorry )
I once saw a comment on a video which said something like "wow remember when this one cute moment happened... or was that a phanfiction?"
I am not saying that every shipper can't tell ficiton and reality apart, however, fandoms get you even more invested in things

Diyes_Celine wrote:

JoeAverage wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same papi phil all the way

aalso am i the only one that finds Louis annoying like 95% of the time?

Do you need to marry Dan if you choose him? If I only get to keep him for a day or 2, I'll pick Dan coz I am really want to know what he offers aside from his pretty face. Half-kidding
But seriously, Phil all the way.
I hope the "demon phannies" will not react violently.

Phil gets my vote too, Dan and I are too alike, we'd drive each other nuts, though I'd also be interested to get to know him. She has said Dan's her favourite and I remember her being fond of Joe too, maybe she's not so friendly with Phil. I can't believe she'd put Phil in the celeb jungle, I can't imagine him being happy to do all those bug challenges especially eating them, he's an animal lover after all. That interview was shallow as hell, though, so whatever. Somehow despite liking her rebrand, there's a bit of a fresh arrogance putting me off Louise.

flarequake wrote:

Diyes_Celine wrote:

JoeAverage wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same papi phil all the way

aalso am i the only one that finds Louis annoying like 95% of the time?

Do you need to marry Dan if you choose him? If I only get to keep him for a day or 2, I'll pick Dan coz I am really want to know what he offers aside from his pretty face. Half-kidding
But seriously, Phil all the way.
I hope the "demon phannies" will not react violently.

Phil gets my vote too, Dan and I are too alike, we'd drive each other nuts, though I'd also be interested to get to know him. She has said Dan's her favourite and I remember her being fond of Joe too, maybe she's not so friendly with Phil. I can't believe she'd put Phil in the celeb jungle, I can't imagine him being happy to do all those bug challenges especially eating them, he's an animal lover after all. That interview was shallow as hell, though, so whatever. Somehow despite liking her rebrand, there's a bit of a fresh arrogance putting me off Louise.

Ouch. Poor Phil.

I'd really be fine with either, there are qualities of both that I like (though I can be quite stubborn so that might make Dan and I clash)

Though, Phil can flip pancakes. Who wouldn't want that

I'd choose Dan bc I feel that we'd match. I would choose Phil if I could get more of him as a person rather than child-show presenter AmazingPhil. I wanna know more about Phil Lester. He's a total cutiepie and I wanna squish both of them so hard, but Phil is too mysterious for me. He's like those guys that seem sweet and lovely on the surface but you don't know if they are total d-bags or serial killers once the mask is off.

Somehow for all the compulsive lying and sh*t Dan has said, he's more transparent. Because through his flaws you see insecurities. I am really curious about Phil in this way but he chooses not to show it so idk, maybe he's a cannibal, can't love him.

000dia000 wrote:Recent thoughts:
Sometimes my mind is very much kept within the mind-frame that speculation does not exist outside of this forum, but in truth their onscreen "love" has become a brand and nothing really feels sacred anymore. Also that gay penguin couple broke up so love is dead anyways.

melon lord wrote: Somehow for all the compulsive lying and sh*t Dan has said, he's more transparent. Because through his flaws you see insecurities. I am really curious about Phil in this way but he chooses not to show it so idk, maybe he's a cannibal, can't love him.

Agree! But I would choose him (if I had to) because Dan and I are too similar (I learned it's not helpful to have an existential crisis and the other person just goes "same" lmao)

I am more attracted to girls though, so any female phils who aren't 29 years old.... hello jk (no i am not)

melon lord wrote:I'd choose Dan bc I feel that we'd match. I would choose Phil if I could get more of him as a person rather than child-show presenter AmazingPhil. I wanna know more about Phil Lester. He's a total cutiepie and I wanna squish both of them so hard, but Phil is too mysterious for me. He's like those guys that seem sweet and lovely on the surface but you don't know if they are total d-bags or serial killers once the mask is off.

Somehow for all the compulsive lying and sh*t Dan has said, he's more transparent. Because through his flaws you see insecurities. I am really curious about Phil in this way but he chooses not to show it so idk, maybe he's a cannibal, can't love him.

I know what you mean, but I think when we see Phil in his liveshows or leaning back in his chair with his arms behind his head and making snarky comments about Tabitha's guitar-playing, we're seeing more of him and I doubt he's much different from that really.

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

we the unicorns is such a god awful and personally, uncreditable site. I cannot stand them, they are an embarrassment to actual journalism. It annoys me how they continuously ask her about other youtubers throughout the whole thing instead of asking her questions about her. She sounded quite annoyed with the whole "dan is the dankest meme" part out of all of the whole interview. The part where they asked about why Hazel being talented and her only response is, "because she's friends with me!!" I don't watch Louise much, but would she really say that about one of her friends???
The site is known for constantly clickbaiting so much crap. I honestly do believe they add stuff about Dan and Phil to every article or interview they can so that people will stay on their site longer and link to it. So I wouldn't put it past the people who write these things to add/twist stuff in interviews just to create those sweet sweet clicks and ad rev.
But, I do hope the "demon phannies" don't attack her for a statement like that.
Also, technically "eligible bachelor" is a man that is single and ready to date, not just someone that isn't married. They did not say bachelor, they said eligible bachelor, which is different. So technically, people who don't think Dan and Phil are together, actually do have new "proof" from one of their friends that phan isn't real... even though the source is from a clickbaity site and according to that same friend, didn't even know if Dan still had the same number a few weeks ago when she texted him about watching his live show... I mean I wouldn't take that as proof to be honest and really though, I don't trust anything unless it's directly from dan or Phil. also apologies for my rambling.

I'd pick Phil partly because I just think he's adorable and I like how his mind seems to work, and also because I am just as obnoxious as Dan is at his DINOF-y worst, and we'd probably end up annoying tf out of each other.

Lol I'm putting on my non-phan goggles again.
I don't mean this in a harsh way, but if we're going to be impartial on whether or not phan is 'real' I think we should listen when we get new evidence.
PS i would not want to marry either of them but I like Dan more (when he doesn't annoy me) so I choose him.

flarequake wrote:

Diyes_Celine wrote:

JoeAverage wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

ohgod wrote:http://www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/ ... PAGgFXb.97

WTU: Who is the most eligible bachelor of all time?

Louise: Joe Sugg. Wait, no, Dan Howell. Dan Howell is a sexy man.

So are people going to give Louise shit for this?

I am, because if Phan isn't real and both Dan and Phil are bachelors, then the answer should have been Phil.

Same papi phil all the way

aalso am i the only one that finds Louis annoying like 95% of the time?

Do you need to marry Dan if you choose him? If I only get to keep him for a day or 2, I'll pick Dan coz I am really want to know what he offers aside from his pretty face. Half-kidding
But seriously, Phil all the way.
I hope the "demon phannies" will not react violently.

Phil gets my vote too, Dan and I are too alike, we'd drive each other nuts, though I'd also be interested to get to know him. She has said Dan's her favourite and I remember her being fond of Joe too, maybe she's not so friendly with Phil. I can't believe she'd put Phil in the celeb jungle, I can't imagine him being happy to do all those bug challenges especially eating them, he's an animal lover after all. That interview was shallow as hell, though, so whatever. Somehow despite liking her rebrand, there's a bit of a fresh arrogance putting me off Louise.

Or she has a thing for boys several years younger than her, so Phil doesn't meet the criteria :') Anyone remember her extremely close relationship with Jack Howard (who despite acting like a bitter old man is younger than our Danny boy) that mysteriously cooled down after he started dating Hazel? Yeah...

spaceguitar wrote:Lol I'm putting on my non-phan goggles again.
I don't mean this in a harsh way, but if we're going to be impartial on whether or not phan is 'real' I think we should listen when we get new evidence.
PS i would not want to marry either of them but I like Dan more (when he doesn't annoy me) so I choose him.

If people want to consider that as anti-proof (anti as in, proof against the concept) then more power to them but... what Louise said doesn't disprove them being a closeted couple, and I'm not sure anyone here is arguing that Dan and Phil aren't closeted.

spaceguitar wrote:Lol I'm putting on my non-phan goggles again.
I don't mean this in a harsh way, but if we're going to be impartial on whether or not phan is 'real' I think we should listen when we get new evidence.
PS i would not want to marry either of them but I like Dan more (when he doesn't annoy me) so I choose him.

Its not a matter of or not, its just stating the truth, Louise isnt as close to dan as some people think, yes they do have similar sense of humor and a loud personality that makes them have fun when they are together chilling, but that doesnt mean they share deep stuff, specially if we take by fact that even though they live in the same city they hardly meet, (also dont talk on the phone [ex: her not knowing it was still his number]) from my po i think the only internet people that we can count as close deppy are byrony, wirrow, mimei, duncan and thats it. all besides the above are acquaintances ,"FUN acquaintances" but acquaintances none the less.

This whole ordeal of Louise providing proof or not about dan is like saying Hazel providing proof about phil.

JoeAverage wrote:

spaceguitar wrote:Lol I'm putting on my non-phan goggles again.
I don't mean this in a harsh way, but if we're going to be impartial on whether or not phan is 'real' I think we should listen when we get new evidence.
PS i would not want to marry either of them but I like Dan more (when he doesn't annoy me) so I choose him.

Its not a matter of or not, its just stating the truth, Louise isnt as close to dan as some people think, yes they do have similar sense of humor and a loud personality that makes them have fun when they are together chilling, but that doesnt mean they share deep stuff, specially if we take by fact that even though they live in the same city they hardly meet, from my po i think the only internet people that we can count as close deppy are byrony, wirrow, mimei, duncan and thats it. all besides the above are acquaintances ,"FUN acquaintances" but acquaintances none the less.

This whole ordeal of Louise providing proof or not about dan is like saying Hazel providing proof about phil.

Agreed. The only thing it really proves to me is that Louise is not privy to inside info.

Not saying it proves anything, but I think that Louise saying Dan is single is worth consideration. You can explain it away by saying that they are very closeted so they don't tell their friends they are together. But that is still a jump from the face-level 'evidence' where someone who we have thought might know the status of D+P's relationship implies they are not together. (I'm sorry to be negative for those of u invested in phan. I'm not saying, 'Aha! i said they weren't together!', but instead 'this could point to them not being together...')

spaceguitar wrote:Not saying it proves anything, but I think that Louise saying Dan is single is worth consideration. You can explain it away by saying that they are very closeted so they don't tell their friends they are together. But that is still a jump from the face-level 'evidence' where someone who we have thought might know the status of D+P's relationship implies they are not together. (I'm sorry to be negative for those of u invested in phan. I'm not saying, 'Aha! i said they weren't together!', but instead 'this could point to them not being together...')

While I see whar you are saying I think it is far more likely that they are closeted so they told her to not say anything along the lines of Phan.

Galactic-Howell wrote:

spaceguitar wrote:Not saying it proves anything, but I think that Louise saying Dan is single is worth consideration. You can explain it away by saying that they are very closeted so they don't tell their friends they are together. But that is still a jump from the face-level 'evidence' where someone who we have thought might know the status of D+P's relationship implies they are not together. (I'm sorry to be negative for those of u invested in phan. I'm not saying, 'Aha! i said they weren't together!', but instead 'this could point to them not being together...')

While I see what you are saying I think it is far more likely that they are closeted so they told her to not say anything along the lines of Phan.

If they are together, they are closeted. This, (I feel like I'm saying this a lot lately) does disprove phan a bit, at least for me. How isolated (socially) would they be to have their guard up among friends? You could argue that she's not that close to them, but to call Dan an eligible bachelor? After hanging out with them without cameras?
The tide has been changing lately, it feels. Maybe it's just Tatinof ending, new chapter and that who knows.

JoeAverage wrote:(...)from my po i think the only internet people that we can count as close deppy are byrony, wirrow, mimei, duncan and thats it. all besides the above are acquaintances ,"FUN acquaintances" but acquaintances none the less.

I don't know why you think they are close to mimei and duncan

Also about phan, when i think of phan Ithinkof their internet personalities and not of Dan and Phil, also when I say I'm phan af I refer to the real Dan and Phil, so who understands me? Not me