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Anonymousse wrote:

backin2009 wrote:
this is how i feel about them all the time

Love that signature of yours

sorry i didn't ask, is it okay if i used it?

edit: i was just about to go to sleep, damn you phil

chiccola wrote:nice distraction boys!

Good timing Phil. Maybe it will be a tour bus tour

kidding i'm excited if a bit reaction-weary there's been a lot to chew on this weekend

Okay. But now I have read the conversation again and I do have slight feeling that both tweets could have been from Dan because since when Phil writes in all lowercase letters?
So I'm going to bring back this quote from few threads back and I'm horribly sorry I don't remember who used it first:

It's all just an elaborate ruse.

backin2009 wrote: sorry i didn't ask, is it okay if i used it?

edit: i was just about to go to sleep, damn you phil

Totes okay .

I also feel you, I should be sleeping or such, but no, gotta wait for the video.

fancybum wrote:

phamnotof wrote: Phil replied in 3 minutes, too, which is weird in itself. Idk though. Like I'll freely admit that I find conspiracy theories fun, but something smells funky here to me. Maybe they knew people'd find the blueprints & wanted a statement out there so that people were less likely to flat-out ask them about it IRL?

They're being robots. Would anybody even ask them? They should have waited for that and just responded the way they did for Japan when Phil just flat out said 'there were two beds' or whatever. This is just pre-emptive and weird (and maybe just to reinforce how they want to be perceived to their US audience?).

I agree they're being robots, though I will say that it also just feels like a side-affect of being that much in the public eye while also knowing how the public eye operates that much. And I do think there are people who would ask them - why? Because some people aren't very smart. Like people asked them if phan was real to their faces during m&g's before, people yelled "DAN IS GAY" at TATINOF shows, and even just at Playlist this year, I saw people commenting that someone was carrying a sign saying "Phan is real". People do all kinds of shit because they're desensitized from thinking that they can get away with anything because that's largely how fan/celeb interactions online are set up. Idk for sure if that's even a part of why they tweeted it, but someone asking them would in no way shock me.

And like I don't think this was a smart move. I think it's gonna bring more questions than silence, and the fact that the tweeted it also means that their sleeping arrangements are gonna be discussed by a far larger audience than they'd have been otherwise. But most of why it makes me kinda sad is because so far, this year has been great, it made me think that they really don't care anymore, that we're past that - but this is like tangible proof that we're not, or at least that progress is rarely linear. And while no homo is largely gone now, no phano is still going strong.

@Anonymousse I feel your frustration and hope you don't fret to much over it (i hope that was English). I've long ago accepted that they're ambiguous about a lot of things. They send mixed messages, they often joke about and they're careful in what and how much they share about themselves that's not part of 'the brand'.

@fancybum : yea, it has all the signs of a planned twitter back and forth. It's quite clever. It brings attention to the tour , as a more casual follower it sounds like a fun piece of banter about two friends and their tour life adventures and for the more hardcore deppy fans it offers plenty of venues for speculation.
That tweet sounds like a good start for a smutty fanfic. A Pillow fight gone sexual.

And i can see my reply is already horribly outdated now oqua has responded, ah well good night ppl.

For what it's worth, i don't personally feel that strong about them possilby playing us. Even when everything they do turned out to be a huge charade (and i think the truth is likely some shade of grey), i still appreciate what they do for what it is.
When I got into D&P a few months back and joined this lovely forum with its lovely people, I feel like I learned some about the 'behind the scenes' of youtube and i've grown to realize that behind the camera, most of the big vloggers really manage their channels and brands as a professional business. A lot of you might be thinking 'duh' now, but when you just casually watch youtube vloggers it's easy to leave with the impression that they are all just some friends messing about, doing collabs and just talking random stuff.
Not so much though. It's scripts, spons & clickbait, talent management bureaus, a strict divide between their private lives and their public image and a lot careful manipulation of the dark magic that are the youtube algorithms. The 'professionalism' is ever increasing too. I guess i shouldn't be surprised. What can one really expect when peoples income and livelyhoods are at stake? A youtube 'carreer' is built on quicksands and you're at the grace of google, so I can understand that talented people like deppy want to guide their audience which they so painstakingly built up to greener pastures like books, tours and merch stands. I think a lot of the big youtubers who aren't yet at pewdiepie levels of financial stability are fearful of suddenly 'losing the game' if they change what they do/ "are", and that fear leads to rigid public images that must be maintained.
/ rant

fakelights wrote:
D&P making a big deal out of everything is probably my biggest annoyance with them. They bring attention to the most irrelevant things or to subjects that should be left alone. All the time. From all fandoms I've been part of and even with irl stuff, I've never seen this way of dealing with things work. People will still speculate and doubt you, even more if you make this kind of statement. If you are only friends, act like friends! If more and don't want others to know, don't say anything. It's just worse if you do argh.

Exactly! like that time Dan tried to reason them cooking for eachother by saying that chinese chicken only comes in jars for two

1:20

This might be their tour bus? If they really use starcoach. It has 6 bunk beds, and a bedroom with toilet and TV on its own. And that means they don't have separate bus with the crew.
Here's the link to the website: http://www.starcoachesinc.com/7550-2/

I don't really mind with DnP 'lying' about the situation. If they are platonic, they just don't want the phandom to freak out when they inevitably learn about it and spam their account with embarassing invasive questions (though i'm sure some will still do that). And the same if they are romantic. They just want it to be private and not be forced to explain (after some shitstorm).

it's their relationship with each other that's the more priority for them. Not the relationship with us. And I understand that.

Just my opinion, anyway. *peace*

edit: will the new video be about the tour bus? i hope so, but if they said it's the first time they see the bus irl it might not be

Mmm...I don't know about it being the tourbus, doesn't look like the one that was posted yesterday at all. It is pretty amazing though

Oh DP, I hope I had the skills and overall "artsiness" to recopile all your no-homo tweets and ls phrases with this background song:

chiccola wrote:Exactly! like that time Dan tried to reason them cooking for eachother by saying that chinese chicken only comes in jars for two

1:20

Yeah that was funny, because he gets so weirdly defensive about things that are no big deal, while at the same time saying things like 'I returned PJ’s card game, because Phil has already bought them.' Like roommates can’t have more than one pair.

DID HE JUST SAY DANNY-BOY XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Im dead,
bye.

if deppy, martyn and cornelia are still at playlist then they definitely have two buses and one of them is probably the one vortexofphan posted (can someone else please check that out and confirm that it does fit their description I'm tired and i don't trust my reading comprehension lol), if not, it's probably one of the ones we posted about yesterday that looked almost exactly like the bus from the picture

and idk guys i don't want to invalidate your feelings, but i think you're kind of overreacting, especially if they weren't lying and it turns out they do have a 'bus' with two bedrooms, and now it looks like that's possible, yeah the tweets were staged and fake af and that's sad, but it's totally something i would expect from them, to me it doesn't look that different from the 'two beds' tweet from Japan?

aaaand phil just posted the video so i'm gonna stop rambling

First Phan denial of 2K16?

I like the video especially the getting to the airport stuff, that was very relatable to me. Although I would never pack my stuff that late, and also pack much more underwear than just five pieces. Hope he went shopping in the meantime.
Weird though how first he had to use Dan's phone because his didn't work, but then tried to call Dan's cell with his own. What is the truth?
Phil saying Danny boy =

Dann, he looks tired. But cute.
I wasn't expecting a video filmed in Florida for some reason. It was nothing special but still entertaining enough for me, I loved the story of him waking up Dan.

I love Phil story videos they are the best.
That airport story just made me feel anxious just hearing it which is why I have to be at the airport at least 3 hours before! I can picture him clearly running through the airport though. Typical Phil.
I hope he brought more boxers! (he can steal some of Dan's though.)

I don't understand the phone bit. Doesnt make much sense to me.
EDIT: that doll is terrifying aswell! No thank you

SquishPhan wrote: Weird though how first he had to use Dan's phone because his didn't work, but then tried to call Dan's cell with his own. What is the truth?
Phil saying Danny boy =

That just totally sounds.. weird.
So you woke him up to use his phone huh? and then you called his phone with your phone huh?...

Mysterious.

trashqueen wrote: and idk guys i don't want to invalidate your feelings, but i think you're kind of overreacting, especially if they weren't lying and it turns out they do have a 'bus' with two bedrooms, and now it looks like that's possible, yeah the tweets were staged and fake af and that's sad, but it's totally something i would expect from them, to me it doesn't look that different from the 'two beds' tweet from Japan?

No, please invalidate them because I don't want them I'm just in a weird shitty mood (maybe partyly due to Chris' liveshow?). It is different though imo because these tweets were unprovoked; the Japan one was a direct response to a specific question.

But whatever, Phil's video has cheered me up somewhat (he looks so good, the stories were funny, ugh I love them both goddammit).

SquishPhan: He said the cab app (..uber?) didn't work on his phone, not his entire phone didn't work. edit: Nope I misunderstood; he booked the cab the night before (maybe his phone was charging). I don't quite get it either.

Ugh I loved that video so much. Old school Phil stories are what I'm here for and as a native Floridian, shots of Florida and the fact that he filmed it there made me all kinds of homesick and happy.

Also the mental image of a bleary-eyed Dan is A++ yes please

aw i loved the video, i laughed at loud at the part about dan not waking up

now, since our last topic was sleeping arrangements, i find it kinda weird (not impossible by any means but weird) that phil managed to use dan's phone without waking him up if they sleep in different rooms

and yeah as you all already pointed out, his phone didn't work and that's why he used dan's but then he called him to wake him up?? what??

edit: just read the last few posts, ignore that last part, he probably meant the app

Some more thoughts:
- He did look tired, not a great way to start off a tour.
- I wanted some more nature bits.
- Those dolls are creepy af, and I wouldn’t be able to sleep either with them staring at me.

Thanks Fancybum I didn't hear that. Now it makes much more sense.
Edit: Oh guess we are still confused about it all now.

So beside #NecklaceGate and #TourBusGate , we now also have #PhoneGate

When will this end, my head is spinning!

"I was banging so hard that it woke up all the neighbours and their dogs and all the pigeons in London" ~ Phil Lester 2016

Loved the video, it was something small and cute

He seemed I don't know.. louder to me? More assertive in a way? The little sarcastic remarks and general attitude seemed a bit more grown-up? Despite the subject, haha. And I love it