eevee wrote:How would you feel if your best friend of 7 years who you live with and spend lots of time with was like "yeah id absolutely love to be alone on a desert island" and when you asked them "what about me" they didnt change their mind?
All things considered: If I were in Phil's place, and I had a best friend I loved and who loved me back like Dan (however you interpret that), and if our situation/our relationship was as close a match to Deppy's as possible--taking into account things like:
- the longest amount of time we've ever spent apart in several years is two weeks
- we Skype each other even during that time apart
- we've lived together for years
- we've holidayed together
- we (by all appearances) get along with each other's families, and we've celebrated certain things with each other's family
- we've chosen to combine our individual careers into a blended career to the point that one person's content apparently counts as content across the board for both of us
- when we're out at events, we're most frequently attached at the hip even when surrounded by other friends
- we spend so much time together and yet even a couple hours apart is enough to make us excited to see and speak to each other again
- somehow we're most frequently seen as a singular entity and
we're okay with that
- our perfect social experience is limited to the two of us and nobody else
- we're still each other's favorite person despite spending
so much time together, seriously; preferred companion in everything; "we" "us" "our"; we're constantly on each other's minds and talk about each other even when the topic should be self-centric
- etc., because you could probs add to this, but you get the idea
If all of this was true of a relationship I had with another person, and if they were to tell me they would choose to live on a completely deserted island all alone without me--I would be amused. Indulgently amused. I would understand that this is a hypothetical situation and that if the actual opportunity cropped up, my bbfl would be taking me with them to enjoy the serenity of an empty island together, because obviously that is what we do, and I would be the hardline exception to the no-other-people rule.
(Except, unlike me, I feel like Phil would argue Dan down to making it a vacation home rather than a long-term living situation, because unlike Dan, Phil seems to enjoy interacting with other humans.)
If I had a relationship like Deppy's in my life, with all of the above being true, after so many years I think it would take effort to actually feel insecure over something like that. If the hypothetical became reality, we all know Dan ultimately wouldn't enjoy not having Phil with him (he probs wouldn't even last long at all lbr), and if
we know that then Phil certainly knows it.
(Honestly, I'd be more offended by my friend throwing scissors in my direction. Stop the violence, Danyul.)
dollicious wrote:even if it was a joke, i can understand where eevee is coming from by saying it is a step back. after what has felt like a conscious change in their behavior since gamingmas has begun, why are they making the same “on-brand” jokes.
I see where you're coming from, but I also don't know if I can assume that that isn't something Dan might say off-camera. I mean, we know that, of the two of them, Dan is the more asocial. As an asocial person, myself, with loved ones I care for dearly, I would press the button to live on a deserted island to live alone and my loved ones know that. While I know that in the reality, there would be serious drawbacks, in the hypothetical, it sounds like bliss to me. My loved ones know that I wouldn't
actually go live away from them all on my own, that I just don't do well on my own, but they also understand that the idea of it is very appealing to me. I don't think Dan and Phil are any different. They've been best friends for 7 years; they know who they are and where they stand with each other by now.
malday wrote:your best friend of 7 years who is an adult would know when you are making a joke in front of a camera.
apathy wrote:Realistically - if they're being more genuine, that's sometimes going to include bad moods. If they just constantly show themselves as relaxed and happy, isn't that just a new form of persona?
Do we want reality or just a different filtered view than we had before?
to both of these
Clearly it's an ongoing issue
Decided I've lurked here long enough time to get in on the action.
