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wow, he was so chill, so happy, idk what to say. that put a smile on my face! only watched the last half but especially liked all the talk about making videos and how difficult it is, i dont think youtubers talk about that enough.

but seriously wtf is that chair

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DatCog wrote:

awsugar wrote:dan pretty much just confirmed that they'll eventually get a dog together i'm

that just made me smile so much i love confirmation that they see themselves together for the foreseeable future

My stream went really laggy around that point but from what I could tell it sounded like he was talking about buying a place and getting a dog...with Phil

Really enjoyed that ls, Dan seemed a little tired but happy

excuse the capslock but ARGH THE LAG my stream also crapped out at this moment! I was so furious!

The dog talk had me Oh well, I was actually falling from my believer cloud a bit after all the hype from moving and stuff, but here i am again, it was super nice how he talked about getting a dog... at some point... with Phil.... help.

A nice, calm ls that was, I might have enjoyed this more than last thursday's joint ls. I might prefer them on their own, actually. It was nice.

The last five minutes of the LS when he was talking about renting and mortgages and dogs have slapped my Phan goggles to my face so hard I'm gonna need a crowbar to pry them off. He sounded SOOO FOND when he was saying how much Phil is into corgis right now . Awwww

This was a nice live show.
- His family calls him Daniel.
- Some more talk about how complicated the new apartment is. He is doing this live show from their actual lounge.
- Him playing some piano, which I thought was nice.
- Dan showing us a terrarium, seems like Phil’s love of plants is rubbing off on him.
- More vague talk about a project him and Phil were working on that we may or may not see.
- March was difficult for some reasons. I’m not ashamed to say that I’m really curious about what those reasons are.
- The Phil feeding the pigeon story was great. I love Phil.
- Dan didn't even know his twitter had changed. smh.
- Sorry Dan, I might prefer your filler content over your ‘good and deep’ content.
- He rambled on about something, but I was tuned out so not really sure what it was about.
- Phil is not rebranding, and I’m happy about that.
- From the way Dan was telling it, I don’t think he is joining the Lester holiday this year. But then again with these two once can never be sure.
- Dan continuing talking about why YouTube is a though job.
- Wow did Dan just admit he has mental health issues? Feel like this is the first time he has said those words (though I could be wrong).
- Him saying that the last two years were the best of his life was sweet.
- Him and Phil can’t get a dog yet. Phil wants a corgi, but they might also adopt. This part made me pretty emotional. So he definitely sees a dog in his and Phil’s future.
- No live show next week since he is still in Florida, so possibly staying there after playlist live anyway, how interesting.
- Dan kept looking to the side, wonder what that was all about.
- Seems like they do have better internet since I experienced zero lag.

Dan talks about so many topics mentioned here (them renting, was what I specifically had on my mind) it's weird. That talk about the dog though, I was just listening out for those plural pronouns and when he started talking about him and Phil getting a dog together I just felt blessed.

I liked the liveshow, I enjoyed the chats about his opinion on the personality he wanted to put forth, he seemed to be more comfortable talking about his youtube personality opinions.

The bit on the piano was lovely as well! I listen to piano music when I'm revising to get me in a more focused mindset and it was gorgeous (the discussion regarding GCSE's tho whoo boy - when he started talking about Maths, which I need to get a 6/B in and am only getting 5's/High C's in, and tried to simplify it I was just "nope, it isn't that easy son")

Terrariums look pretty, and I liked the extended version of Phil's pigeon feeding story

That live show was exhausting, but in like, a nice way? It just felt like a long, rambling defense of his happiness. So, I enjoyed it, but also wow, I'm tired.

I loved all the extra info we got about the apartment. A terrace, he says? This continues to prove out the penthouse theory for sure. Also I love his piano and the fact that he played it!!!

And, just as I was sighing in exhaustion about the 372nd rant he was on, he slides in with all the "we" phrasing regarding he and Phil's future house and corgi. I'm gonna need a rewatch to catch the exact quotes, but they were so casually comfortable? And just like, of course he and Phil are gonna buy a house together at some point and of course they're gonna have a cute little corgi. That's not the question. The question is when. Shit, y'all. This made me so emotional. Fuck.

i enjoyed the ls too, i missed the middle 15 minutes (anything interesting happen?), but overall i liked how calm it was. i liked the bit where he was talking about his creativity process! it's been discussed on here a lot i think, but i thought it was interesting that today, he didn't refer to any of it as a quality threshold or something similar, but talked more about where his personal difficulties lie. he seemed very genuine and also somewhat at peace with it, and also positive about the future. so: rare wholesome howell indeed, i'm officially uplifted after that ls!

(apart from maybe the fact that it made me realize that i really, really need these two days reading and browsing tumblr and dumping all my stress. or maybe a week. or ten years.)

the dog/apartment bit at the end was so cute? i'll wait for other reactions or the upload, but i understood that he was talking about them adopting a dog together in definite terms, in contrast to the non-confirming phrasing in the joint ls, and it really stuck out to me how affirmative he was, and how it basically went without saying. he was so comfortable and happy?? i'm emotional.

SquishPhan wrote:This was a nice live show.
- His family calls him Daniel.
- Some more talk about how complicated the new apartment is. He is doing this live show from their actual lounge.
- Him playing some piano, which I thought was nice.
- Dan showing us a terrarium, seems like Phil’s love of plants is rubbing off on him.
- More vague talk about a project him and Phil were working on that we may or may not see.
- March was difficult for some reasons. I’m not ashamed to say that I’m really curious about what those reasons are.
- The Phil feeding the pigeon story was great. I love Phil.
- Dan didn't even know his twitter had changed. smh.
- Sorry Dan, I might prefer your filler content over your ‘good and deep’ content.
- He rambled on about something, but I was tuned out so not really sure what it was about.
- Phil is not rebranding, and I’m happy about that.
- From the way Dan was telling it, I don’t think he is joining the Lester holiday this year. But then again with these two once can never be sure.
- Dan continuing talking about why YouTube is a though job.
- Wow did Dan just admit he has mental health issues? Feel like this is the first time he has said those words (though I could be wrong).
- Him saying that the last two years were the best of his life was sweet.
- Him and Phil can’t get a dog yet. Phil wants a corgi, but they might also adopt. This part made me pretty emotional. So he definitely sees a dog in his and Phil’s future.
- No live show next week since he is still in Florida, so possibly staying there after playlist live anyway, how interesting.
- Dan kept looking to the side, wonder what that was all about.
- Seems like they do have better internet since I experienced zero lag.

This actually was something I noticed too, but totally forgot because the dog talk. But yeah, it did sound like that and I am not going to say anything else to it but: it's hard to admit things like that, he must know how his fans are and how they (we) take every word and over analyse him and what he says and how he acts. But I'm really proud of him? Like, he keeps doing things that make it really clear he is more comfortable with himself and who he is and how he presents himself to the audience, than ever before. And it makes me so happy for him, because everyone needs self respect and everyone should be able to love themselves to the point that they can just... be who they are. And I think Dan is getting there, or at least showing it to the world. And that's awesome.

That was so cosy and warm, he was so happy. The pigeon story had me maybe that was the turning point. I wasn't feeling it at the start cos the room's so grey, my first thought was it looks like a Star Trek set and his top could be one of the uniforms, but he was so lovely. Keep smiling, Daniel

allsaintshowell wrote: p much, dan was bitching about how pointless renting is if you do it for too long but also how expensive it is to buy a house in london. he confirmed (again) that they'll get a dog at some point when they buy a house and that it might be a corgi because phil really wants one. he also sneakily mentioned brighton, so now i'm just imagining them in a cute seaside house with a corgi running around.

You know that feeling when your heart is too big for your chest, that's what I felt while reading this. And now I can't stop smiling.

live show was v chill and soft
i love how he didn't deny moving into a house with phil and getting a dog in the future
ALSO v happy to hear he loves the new gorillaz album and that anthony fantano's opinion didn't sway his

this was so calm, so nice, and that YOI piano (please learn the whole song )

I loved the pigeon story

and I agree - please do something about the background - a bit more colour maybe. maybe yes to move some of the plants there would be a good idea. I don't know if it's just me, or if it's because the walls in this apartment seem to be gray, but everything looks kind of washed out (??). In the old apartment the colours looked more warm and bright, here it just looks cold and washed out (even in the gaming channel video hmm) Maybe it's just my impression idk.

(actually when he said terrarium I thought they are getting a lizard or something, before he showed the flowers/cacti )

and I am among those whose ls lagged the last minutes so I couldn't fully hear the dog story - hope it will be in the reupload

overall, nice liveshow

I missed the first 5 minutes (and experienced a severe lag during the "renting is bad, we're getting a dog together" bit, whyyyyy), but I'm pretty confident it was the best solo Dan's ls I've seen. Basically, what everybody's already saying, he was calm and introspective and phan(iel) is real:

lurker wrote:i enjoyed the ls too, i missed the middle 15 minutes (anything interesting happen?), but overall i liked how calm it was. i liked the bit where he was talking about his creativity process! it's been discussed on here a lot i think, but i thought it was interesting that today, he didn't refer to any of it as a quality threshold or something similar, but talked more about where his personal difficulties lie. he seemed very genuine and also somewhat at peace with it, and also positive about the future. so: rare wholesome howell indeed, i'm officially uplifted after that ls!

(apart from maybe the fact that it made me realize that i really, really need these two days reading and browsing tumblr and dumping all my stress. or maybe a week. or ten years.)

the dog/apartment bit at the end was so cute? i'll wait for other reactions or the upload, but i understood that he was talking about them adopting a dog together in definite terms, in contrast to the non-confirming phrasing in the joint ls, and it really stuck out to me how affirmative he was, and how it basically went without saying. he was so comfortable and happy?? i'm emotional.

I really appreciated Dan talking about his process, that's what I always wanted from him! And so normal and sincere, I was sitting with a huge smile on my face during the whole time. I don't know what made him this way today, but I really hope he continues to do it and be like that in the future
Also, his saying that Yuri on Ice is gay and it sounding like a completely positive thing that must be appreciated stood out to me, he's grown so much since the "putting fairy lights on the piano makes the room look gay, I'm not about that life" days

Now, I'm also intensely curious about the two mysterious things they did in February and in March, the first one sounded like something professional and the second, the March one, like more of a personal thing maybe? I hope we find out, but even if we don't, everything is still beautiful and I feel blessed

I'm also deleting voldy from my hard drive, because I'm now finally 100% convinced they're together, so having it really does feel now like a great imposition on their privacy

I've only been able to watch half of the show late, but I love it so far.
He looks very relaxed and happy. I know they are still moving things around but it's such a nice feeling when you have been imagining what the new place will be like for soooo long and you finally get everything in and it looks so good and you are so happy that you are there. You can see it on him. Happy is a good look for Dan.

When he went on the little rant about the Yuri on Ice song making him feel hopeful and like he can do anything. Good stuff right there. My favorite people being happy is all I ever want, and if I can't see my poor struggling friends and family happy than I will watch these cute rich british boys do it!

The bit where he was talking about acting like your authentic self is very close to one of my favorite bits of psychology, the origin of the idea of self esteem by William James. The idea is that you have three versions of yourself; the you that you want to be, the you that you think you project to others, and the actual way that others perceive you. The closer you can get to having these three things be the same, the happier you will be. To seems to go hand in hand with the 2016/2017 level of cuteness in the videos. I had thought it was just because they were spending so much time together on tour or whatnot, but it makes more sense now that they have always been that cute together and are just now becoming comfortable with showing that side of themselves to the public again. (platonic or not, you can still be an adorable couple and looking back at their old content reveals they have in fact always been that adorable lol)

HOWEVER: Dan will only achieve true oneness or whatever if he does not keep secrets or lie. Secrets and lies (and unnecessary bus tour videos that no one asked for) will slowly eat away at your confidence and self esteem, even if you have decided they are a great idea. They aren't. Ever. So for his sake I really hope he is being true to himself and honest with everyone around him. I know it's hard to open yourself up to hurt, and easy to give one hundred reasons why you should continue the lies. I've been there. I've done that. You don't realize how much better your life can be once you open yourself up and be that person you really are though.

anyway, I will stop ranting now. Sorry lol.

coffeepenguin wrote: I'm also deleting voldy from my hard drive, because I'm now finally 100% convinced they're together, so having it really does feel now like a great imposition on their privacy

idk why but i think thats quite a symbolic and wonderful thing to do ily

I'm happy because he said that he tries very hard on his youtube videos because he wants to make good content. I was worried that it might be a bad thing for him to be this hard on himself but if that boosts his creativity then go danny!!!

Also I liked his rant about change. How sometimes is good to be out of your comfort zone. He seemed really happy and that inspires me .

Well that was lovely. Dan felt very comfortable and open. (Though I am very curious about February and March and what was up with those nines ). It seems like we will see more of their living space than they original let on (lots of "perhaps" were used, including for an apartment tour) which is nice, as long as they do it at their own pace. Honestly just a photoset of his moon bedroom would make me happy. Yes, be proud for your interior design!

I noticed a lot of singular pronouns at the beginning. "I'm going to Orlando" rather than "we" which of course they are both going, they're hosting together. I do wonder if Phil went ahead of him. He also said "when I get back", not "we", so he might not be staying for family vacation, but then again he might just be in an "I" frame of mind what with the changes he's made and the introspection. This of course was balanced by the plural pronouns towards the end. My stream started majorly acting up right when he mentioned adopting a mutt. Like grey pixels and then no sound, so I'll have to catch the end later, but I was happy to catch it live from the very beginning!

I was not expecting to be in the upper lounge/living room. But of course ls are done on the laptop so they could be anywhere. The first thing I saw was the piano (funny how he thought we couldn't see that, 'it's kinda tucked away' no, Dan it is literally your backdrop). Love the Yuri on Ice music (how did I not freaking know they are making a YOI movie?!) and him explaining how it makes him feel. End me.

I adore "me and Phil" because it's Screw proper grammar, it's precious, but I also am amused by the back and forth and the indulgent look he gives the camera when he does say "Phil and I".

So yeah, overall, very calm and insightful. Happy Dan equals happy fans.

Sorry I missed the age discussion. I do have some general feelings about this, being just a year older than Phil, but I haven't really engaged with the Phandom besides here (I've only started following some phan blogs on Tumblr, but I'm being pretty selective. I am used to being one of the older people in HP/CC/Scorbus fandom (which fair enough they are teenage boys, but I've been shipping Drarry half my life, cut me some slack. Actually all the teenagers I've interacted with on Tumblr are very nice, a few of them have said they look up to me and I have beta read for some of them. But I do tend to be hesitant about following teenagers on social media. I wonder if some of the judgment adults in fandoms get both from younger people in that fandom as well as their peers IRL is based on geeky or obsessive interests being something you should grow out of. I know that the singularity of my interests bother my husband, despite him being a geek. It's that I focus so much on one thing, be that tea (I used to work at a tea shop and got into rare teas and tea culture) or Harry Potter.

I wanted to quote like 10 people about both that and the ls, but I am tired and lazy. One tiny thing Dan was 18 when he uploaded his first YT video, and Phil was 19. Oh and I did go and read all the bomb's posts and was very amused reading the posts in Dan's voice. It was a fun little exercise. Regardless, you're pretty cool.

cherrybomb3 wrote:

coffeepenguin wrote: I'm also deleting voldy from my hard drive, because I'm now finally 100% convinced they're together, so having it really does feel now like a great imposition on their privacy

idk why but i think thats quite a symbolic and wonderful thing to do ily

i find you thoroughly hilarious and i just want you to know that. every post's a work of art.

autumnhearth wrote: Oh and I did go and read all the bomb's posts and was very amused reading the posts in Dan's voice. It was a fun little exercise. Regardless, you're pretty cool.

oh dear please dont do that just let me blend into the crowd of posters and conduct my v complex research into fandoms in peace

oh and ty debatable but ty

In a total shit post: can we talk about the way Dan laughed at the chat going "the ship is now Phaniel"

cherrybomb is giving me life.

rizzo wrote:

cherrybomb3 wrote:

coffeepenguin wrote: I'm also deleting voldy from my hard drive, because I'm now finally 100% convinced they're together, so having it really does feel now like a great imposition on their privacy

idk why but i think thats quite a symbolic and wonderful thing to do ily

i find you thoroughly' hilarious and i just want you to know that. every post's a work of art.

ty m8erino that being said you can ignore anything i ever say and let me curl up and die quietly


mostly jk

auri wrote:In a total shit post: can we talk about the way Dan laughed at the chat going "the ship is now Phaniel"

cherrybomb is giving me life.

ill frickin take it away if the cyberbullying doesnt end

i really loved that liveshow? dan (soz i mean daniel) seemed so happy and calm and did anyone else think he sort of almost looked younger as well? i loved how honest he was when talking about his creative process. it was also really cool to hear him talk about mental health and self care and i'm glad he feels like he can be relatively open about that sort of stuff. also loved him calling the bates motel guy cute and responding to 'marry owen jones' with 'i think he has a boyfriend' aaaaand i'm trash so hearing dan talk about eventually getting a dog and home with phil like it's just something to be expected had me

Off topic.

But just wanted to say having been on this forum for around a day I think it's brilliant. I'm kicking myself for not finding it earlier. As someone who's a social loner and doesn't do online stuff it's nice to talk to people who are in the fandom also you all seem nice and awesome so yer so thanks for making this exist!