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Tumblr and twitter are sharing the radio 1 news. Making emphasis in the "Dan and Phil will remain a part of radio 1 family" I thought there was going to be people going crazy but it seems everything is okay. Thanks God!

SquishPhan wrote:I just saw this posted on the place that shall not be named and thought I would share it.

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2016/03/radio-1 ... list-show/

This officially states that the internet takeover is no more. I am glad though, that the whole program is cancelled and not that other youtubers are taking it over. It also states that Dan and Phil will continue being part of the radio one family. Hopefully this means that they will do something else on radio one. Still would have been nice if Dan and Phil had actually told us this.
I do wonder how this affects other youtubers who had regular slots with the Internet Takeover.

How very interesting. We all knew that was going to happen with the way Dan was talking about it so it wasn't a surprise. I like how they say they are still part of the Radio One family, I wonder if that means they will just get odd shows or a regular show. I can see them covering for people who are off and not have a regular schedule show.

I wonder if Phil have a liveshow tonight if he is with his Grandma. I am guessing not. If he does, I wonder if he talks about the radio show (we might have to wait until Dan's LS)

I don't know how I feel about the radio show not coming back, I didn't always watch it but I did recently binge watch a playlist of all their seven second challenge games which I enjoyed immensely and the idea we won't be getting regular updates added to things like that anymore makes me sad.

But apparently they are staying apart of the radio family so who knows what's to come. Also I'd guess the fact the BBC didn't mention any of the youtubers in their statement might be confirming what many around here have long speculated about whether the internet takeover gets as good of viewing figures when the other youtubers host it.

internetakeover wrote: I thought the pic was of Dan at a meal with Phil's friends, but as Phil did call it a 'high school reunion', not eg 'meeting up with old friends' I was under the impression that there was an actual reunion for everyone in the evening? It would be a long way to go just for one meal!

Phil clarified in his younow that by high school reunion he meant a reunion of his friends from high school and there was about 10 people there.
Which personally I'd be more willing to travel for then an evening where I'd have to make awkward small talk with people I don't really care what are up to now but hey that's just me lol.

Gemini wrote:I don't know the date orders of everything so forgive me.

What if Dan never went with Phil originally? What if he tweeted his crisis and Phil saw it, then said to come up to Manchester? I dunno.

That is what i thought really happen, but i mean is idk idk idk idk i don't care, they are confusing and i hate them, f*ck this shit i'm out

rizzo wrote: That all said, I often find myself wondering if we ever hit the nail on the head with their relationship. Have we freaked 'em out?

Probably about a hundred times over... but maybe not for that reason...!

pearshaped34 wrote:

internetakeover wrote: I thought the pic was of Dan at a meal with Phil's friends, but as Phil did call it a 'high school reunion', not eg 'meeting up with old friends' I was under the impression that there was an actual reunion for everyone in the evening? It would be a long way to go just for one meal!

Phil clarified in his younow that by high school reunion he meant a reunion of his friends from high school and there was about 10 people there.
Which personally I'd be more willing to travel for then an evening where I'd have to make awkward small talk with people I don't really care what are up to now but hey that's just me lol.

he did explain it in a ls saying that, but there's room for consideration re: whether he was clarifying or blurrifying, if you know what I mean like obviously, taking dan to a friend meet up is harder to phan-proof with than a flat-out hs reunion, that's a tougher nut to swallow
(which is to say, that's another reason to go to the trainstation separately, not wanting people to know they were both going there, but I doubt they'd go to such lenghts in 2015) (also, it would barely explain the crisis tweets, really)

majitzu wrote:

Gemini wrote:I don't know the date orders of everything so forgive me.

What if Dan never went with Phil originally? What if he tweeted his crisis and Phil saw it, then said to come up to Manchester? I dunno.

That is what i thought really happen, but i mean is idk idk idk idk i don't care, they are confusing and i hate them, f*ck this shit i'm out

Just to put the dates in order
#whyisphilrunning was on the 28th Dan's tweet was on the 28th Phil's tweet on the 29th They were also seen together on the 29th I reblogged the photo the fan took with them but I think it was deleted so I won't post it

I'm not sure it really says much, but there we go.

re: the radio show
I'm glad they're staying, in whatever way they are I hope they come back with something great

Sorry, not gonna quote because I don't remember:

1) Radio show: at least now we have a definitive answer...but I really hope that D&P will work with the BBC, maybe a different concept, and that the bbc isn't being really careful with the Phandom hoping that by the time D&P are finished with the tour people will forget (the phandom never forgets). Also I'm a little shit so I'm happy that the other youtubers aren't mentioned, btw I don't follow Jack and Dean but will they also be axed?

2)Phil ls: I hope that he adresses the thing but I have a bad feeling regarding the ls, is the picture from easter holidays, is it new or is his grandma in London?

3)Manchester Reunion: I don't really think that the trip wasn't already planned from the begginig. If Dan was feeling down I think that there could be also other reasons why , also he probably was already at the station and would have left before Phil if he didn't arrive on time.

4)Matt vlogs: While they are cool I think that Deppy while finding them frendly and pleasant to be around wasn't in their same waveleght.

angrymob wrote:Speaking of that actually, I was watching the mattg vlogs from 2012 on one of felucca's playlists, and I'm not sure if it's just me or maybe Matt just has an easy going personality, but D&P (or at least Phil did) seem to interact with that group so much differently than they do vloggers nowadays. Like, they actually seemed to want to talk with those youtubers and then proceeded to hang out with them instead of just avoiding them. Maybe also, the general opinion of D&P with other youtubers has changed too, because while Mattg recognized them, his reaction and those of Steve Kardynal, cyr, makemebad etc. also seemed very different from how a lot of North American youtubers talk about them nowadays. I don't know exactly how, but maybe it was just that they treated them more equally like 'oh hey, these guys!' instead of the sneery/clickbaity/idolizing way I feel most youtubers act about them now.

that's funny you got this feeling because I see it completely differently. They, especially Dan, give me so much vibes of myself when I hang out with friends of friends that I don't like lol. I think because it was playlist and their first time there, they forced themselves to being social and trying to hang out with peers and maybe Phil vaguely knew this guy from the internet or they just found themselves with them for some reason. But in my opinion they both seem quite uncomfortable and to not like any of these guys much.
As Felucca says

In this last one they say that Dan and Phil are "illusive" and have been hiding all day.

This makes me lol. Maybe trying to avoid them? Idk I just feel this vibe that it was very forced and that Dan an Phil didn't like them much (they never hang out again after all).

I am so happy the internet takeover is cancelled. (I mean i am NOT but i am happy it doesn't continue without ) That's great they didn't just continue with Emma, Ben, Jack and Dean... because i hate them all. And also I am super happy DnP are staying with radio 1. I hope they do a show where people can call again

corn flakes wrote:Sorry, not gonna quote because I don't remember:

3)Manchester Reunion: I don't really think that the trip wasn't already planned from the begginig. If Dan was feeling down I think that there could be also other reasons why , also he probably was already at the station and would have left before Phil if he didn't arrive on time. .

This.

People only saw Phil running to the station alone, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but nobody really saw him on the train so I feel like the most probable explanation is that Phil maybe forgot sth or was buying sth for the trip while Dan waited for the train or something similar. It seems like too much of a stretch to say that Dan was lonely and went up to Phil later just because of a couple of depressing tweets. I mean, if they can't handle being apart for a day or two we need to seriously consider labeling them codependent. And also, if Dan did take a train up north later than Phil, it could have been that he had some form of appointment or meeting that he couldn't skip.

rizzo wrote: I like what we have become. This is generally a place for constructive criticism and there are often times when I really hope Dan & Phil are reading. On average, IDB is their age or older and while we're not the target audience, I like to imagine they use this forum to take us into account. (I'm speaking broadly here about IDB and GG tbh, because I'm not yet convinced they've actually found IDB.)

The thing is, if they do read here, all the things they did related to tge forum are just very insignificant things, like delete a old tweet or style eyebrow differently, but important things which ppl here mostly agree on, like targeted age group or persona, they seem like they have no intention to take our criticism into consideration at all. It will be very frustrating if they really lurk here.

corn flakes wrote: Also I'm a little shit so I'm happy that the other youtubers aren't mentioned, btw I don't follow Jack and Dean but will they also be axed?

I'm kinda glad for this too I tried watching some of the shows with other youtubers but just wasn't interested. Maybe that's also the reason why they ended the show. D&P didn't want to do it on weekly basis and the other youtubers weren't bringing as much listeners. But then again, maybe they were bringing more than other people only known from the radio. Who knows...

I just hope that the end of radioshow means D&P will start another project. SAP was replaced by the radioshow so maybe the radioshow can be replaced by something new. But maybe that would be too good to be true

daphenaxa wrote: that's funny you got this feeling because I see it completely differently. They, especially Dan, give me so much vibes of myself when I hang out with friends of friends that I don't like lol. I think because it was playlist and their first time there, they forced themselves to being social and trying to hang out with peers and maybe Phil vaguely knew this guy from the internet or they just found themselves with them for some reason. But in my opinion they both seem quite uncomfortable and to not like any of these guys much.

Yes i agree, they seem like same old awkward nerds to me. Especially in the vlog they basically just walking along with everyone without talking to any of them. (except each other of course) I've seen them being more friendly with Joey graceffa or Alfie deyes.

akui wrote:

rizzo wrote: I like what we have become. This is generally a place for constructive criticism and there are often times when I really hope Dan & Phil are reading. On average, IDB is their age or older and while we're not the target audience, I like to imagine they use this forum to take us into account. (I'm speaking broadly here about IDB and GG tbh, because I'm not yet convinced they've actually found IDB.)

The thing is, if they do read here, all the things they did related to tge forum are just very insignificant things, like delete a old tweet or style eyebrow differently, but important things which ppl here mostly agree on, like targeted age group or persona, they seem like they have no intention to take our criticism into consideration at all. It will be very frustrating if they really lurk here.

tbh, i agree here, but i view that as a mix of comfort and laziness. what they're doing now works and it takes effort to change the bigger things. it takes nothing to delete a tweet or address an unanswered question. at least they're reading it and know how we feel?

idk. i'm not defending them in that realm. we've been asking for a sketch video from dan for what feels like forever. but here's another ISG.

phamnotof wrote: he did explain it in a ls saying that, but there's room for consideration re: whether he was clarifying or blurrifying, if you know what I mean like obviously, taking dan to a friend meet up is harder to phan-proof with than a flat-out hs reunion, that's a tougher nut to swallow
(which is to say, that's another reason to go to the trainstation separately, not wanting people to know they were both going there, but I doubt they'd go to such lenghts in 2015) (also, it would barely explain the crisis tweets, really)

True if Phil had took Dan to his official reunion he wouldn't want fans to know that because of how coupley of a thing that is but would he lie about it directly because reunions are full of people snapping photos and the vast majority of those people wouldn't be close enough to Phil for him to have any control over what they put on the internet.
Would he say he didn't go to such an event if there was a possibility pictures from a proper reunion of clearly more then 10 people could surface on somebodies unlocked social media accounts later and prove him a liar?

I'm not sure if Phil would even take Dan to an official high school reunion because of how coupley it would look and because they'd be surrounded by people they don't know or trust so couldn't control the situation so personally I do believe it was just a friend group meet-up.

madmadmad wrote: People only saw Phil running to the station alone, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but nobody really saw him on the train so I feel like the most probable explanation is that Phil maybe forgot sth or was buying sth for the trip while Dan waited for the train or something similar.

Yeah, if Phil decided he wanted to go buy something Dan just waiting at the platform because he couldn't be bothered to go with him doesn't seem at all particularly weird. And then maybe there was a queue (or Phil just lost track of time) and then realized the time (or Dan rang him saying get back here now the train is here) would explain Phil running through the station by himself.

pearshaped34 wrote: I'm not sure if Phil would even take Dan to an official high school reunion because of how coupley it would look and because they'd be surrounded by people they don't know or trust so couldn't control the situation so personally I do believe it was just a friend group meet-up.

Organised reunions aren't really a "thing" in the UK. I've no doubt it was just a friend-group catch up. I remember there being an "old girls' day" at my high school for the centenary whilst I was there, but that's about it. Maybe I just went to the wrong schools...

I think one of the reason we've been neglecting about the radio show is money?

I mean they are making a fortune out of their books and tours, but because they are not A level, or even C level celeb yet, what r1 can offer compare to what they can make out of youtube are probably nothing. I mean back in 2013 it's probably not much difference, or perhaps they made even more from radio than youtube, but nowadays they are having 3 channels with millions of subscribers, running a merch empire, having book and tour tickets sold out in an hour, they probably think having a r1 job just for the sake of it's a bbc r1 job is not worth it anymore. I think they cutted down their weekly 2 hour show to monthly 1 hr show is probably the same reason.

And for bbc they know their offer can't beat how much deppy make elsewhere. One of the reason they hired other youtubers to fill out the takeover i think it's because they are significantly cheaper than deppy.

Money plus the tour, i think it's the reason why the radioshow first got cut down and then got canceled.

So I'm not keeping my hope high for a radio show post tour reboot.

Do we know any other youtubers who are as famous as deppy but also have a regular radio job?

It's nice to finally have a confirmation of what will happen to the radio show. The new program will last 3 months so I hope D&P will come back after it. Although, at this point I feel like they will only cover specials and stuff like that once every few months.

Also, I feel like they will do the final leg of the tour around october so R1 must take that into consideration as well for any new programming. I do see them coming back to live radio shows once they are not so busy.

SquishPhan wrote:I just saw this posted on the place that shall not be named and thought I would share it.

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2016/03/radio-1 ... list-show/

Still would have been nice if Dan and Phil had actually told us this.

Yup, it would have been nice of Dan and Phil to announce it was coming to an end. Why did they say it was a hiatus when they must have known it was a final live show. Dan has said they're going to record a finale but that it won't be live. Such a shame, seeing as it's been a big part of their and our lives. Be interesting to see if Phil mentions it in his liveshow tonight.

3:00
Am I the only one with the feeling that pewdiepie is their biggest phangirl? (Or trying to get views from the phandom)

@rizzo (sorry the quote thing messed) I agree with you... except on the relationship thing. In my days of lurking GG, I am one who holds a seemingly rare opinion on their relationship. I genuinely don't think they're together, and I'll go even further to say I don't think they ever were (though I go back and forth on whether 2009/2010 was a thing)...
I think sometimes it's easy for us to forget that despite them being good looking, practically millionaires, successful businessmen, having great personalities etc... that they're two nerdy and still kinda socially awkward guys in their 20s. I think it's also easy to assume (especially people that are younger who tend to have an idealistic view of being 20+) but even for all of us, to think that just because they don't live with their parents/go to university/work casual or 'regular' jobs/do things that a lot of other people in their 20s do, this doesn't mean they necessarily have their lives sorted, especially Dan being not even 25. Eg. I have friends and in particular two family friends who are 26, and 29. They are both remind me of dan and phil in a sense, good looking, nerds who love video games, anime, movies, board games etc... the older one only just moved out of home and has only ever had one serious girlfriend when he was younger, the younger one to my knowledge has only dated around. All I'm trying to say is that just because they are successful 'adults', this has nothing to do with their relationships. In fact, (assuming they aren't together), having the level of success they do, it would be extremely difficult trusting and forming any sort of meaningful connection with someone eg. when dating and forming friendships. In the situation they are in with their youtube channels, tour, branding etc. it only makes sense that they live together & basically spend all their time together, it's not all that strange for them to be living the way they are in their particular situation. I think time will tell, once Phil hits his 30s I think we'll gradually start to see them grow apart... D&P as a brand can't last forever (or can it... PINOF79???? )

But who am I kidding, I could be completely wrong and they could be bumming each other at this very moment. Ignore my speculations I am trash.

My take on the existential tweets/high school reunion dram is that while at that little reunion with Phil's friends, it hit Dan how different his life was to all these people.
And we have to remember he is the envious type, he will compare himself to others and be jealous of what they have and feel down about himself.
Idk who these people are but I can assume they have more "normal" and common (and respected) jobs than being a youtuber. If we go by Phil's best friend Ian, maybe most of them were married, with children, with a stable job, maybe a house etc. and it hit Dan that he wasn't at all at the same stage of his life. And that is not to say, he hasn't done incredibly well for himself because he has, I am pretty sure professionally he was one if not the most successful there. I am also sure that thinking about it more thoroughly, he wouldn't like that life and what these people have, but the knee-jerk reaction is envy and feeling a bit down.

The thing with like "following your dreams" or having alternative lifestyles/jobs etc. is that we do it because it is what will make us the most happy/satisfied with our lives, but there is always this social pressure to have all the commonly acceptable and desired things. There is a social recognition and gratification for the people who have all those things (family, house, stable job etc.) and I think Dan really craves that recognition but doesn't necessarily want all of the rest (or at least not now) which make for a nice existential crisis.

Maybe the fact of not being out (ignore this part if you don't believe in phan) also hit him. We can assume they behaved like a couple, were seen as a couple there by their friends. then the thought of going back to his normal life where they pretend they're best buds might have made him feel existentially too.

dalel is dead, phalel lives. i will let myself out.

PolarFox wrote:

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Am I the only one with the feeling that pewdiepie is their biggest phangirl? (Or trying to get views from the phandom)

honestly, it makes sense with small-ish youtubers to try to get views from the phandom with like, thumbnails and clickbaity video titles, but this isn't really that, is it? plus, you can say a lot about felix, but i don't think he's struggling for views
i do honestly believe that he likes interacting with us though. like we're fun when we're not being creepy and stalkery! like it or not, not many fandoms have the power to ruin YT comments quite like we do, and that's not about numbers/views 100k people are behind that and that's not a huge number to someone like felix. and i do also think he just likes *them* in like a really simple, human way
(i may have said the same thing here once already, i can't be bothered to check and am the definition of a goldfish when it comes to memory)

jiggly wrote:dalel is dead, phalel lives.

i will let myself out.

what was the story with kalel after she and anthony broke up, anyway? i've heard rumors about her flirting with dan on twitter and then also baiting the phandom, but never really dug deeper/dunno what's true and what's nasty misogyny