IDB

i actually wasn't planning on watching phil's latest video at first, but ended up doing it anyway after seeing some of the comments on here and it wasn't as bad as i expected. i thought it was okay and kind of cute, not something i'll rewatch probably but i didn't think it was bad or anything.

i guess at the moment i'm not really expecting that much of either of them bc the tour ended pretty recently/they still have some stuff with the recording and book being released

oh btw, when i say "wasn't as bad as i expected" i mean that i cringe about things like that super easily lmao. idk what it is but i just have a hard time watching people see or hear what other people say about them or to them. it's kind of hard to explain. but i've always avoided the chat when watching liveshows as well bc of the same reason.

i don't really have much to add to the current discussion, but i'm really enjoying reading it though

Ticia wrote:

31:58 onwards. I'm guessing this is part of the coming shitstorm Dan keeps mentioning

oh shit, i completely forgot about that they talked about this. now i'm kind of curious about it, hopefully we'll hear something about it soon bc it's been a while since that liveshow


why am i at the top of the page again, oh god

Chaps. No time to contribute anything meaningful but I'm loving the discussions over Phil, the meaningless Dan comparisons and the direction they're moving in. Also really brilliant specific responses and addressing other posters which has made the whole thing a conversation rather than shouting into the void with our own opinions as we sometimes do
fancybum I just KNEW when I read that post with the 'stumbled upon' tumblr fartposts that you'd be on it and you did not disappoint you got my back kid

kuensukki wrote:Also another quick thing to add: Dans 2012 phase helped him greatly, especially with the transformation he went through that was so distinct, even in his content. Phil on the other hand has remained consistent with his online image. Do you think that worked against Phil in the long run? It surely helped Dan because people applaud him for how far he's come yet we don't do the same for Phil even though he's come a long way. He started off this awkward white kid trying to find acceptance in his peers and look how far he's come now. His change was more in 2012 and even now he's a different man then he was in the past. He has become more confident then he used to be. He was scared at calling a hairdresser and now he's performing on stage and slowly putting himself more out there yet we never discuss how far he's come. This could also be related to content appraisal and how people seem more satisfied or dissatisfied with one or the other. Id love to hear more thoughts on this

The only transformation of Phil that can help his career, in a direction of becoming more rich, famous and popular, in my opinion, is becoming a dad.

I'm not even joking, i'm super serious.

Rebranding for Phil, or transformation, currently if he's going to a direction of being less persona-y or more real people like, is not going to do any good or harm to him. It will only make his current viewers happier, as long as his format stays the same.

Unless Phil's going to explore something completely different, a new genre or a new profession even, as far as i can see, the only option that can help him in a significant way is becoming a dad.

As for Dan idk, i think dropping the persona won't do him any good or damage either, as long as he doesn't turn into Tomska, he's fine.

pearshaped34 wrote:I liked Phil's video but like many others have stated I also don't watch Phil (or Dan) with the hopes their content is going to challenge me or even because I think it particularly creative or artistic stuff (sorry boys). The only thing I'm looking for when I watch them is 5-10 minutes of mindless entertainment. Which admittedly D&P can deliver for me personally with very very little effort on their part because something about them just gives me warm and fuzzy feelings. I'm an extremely easy to to please fan in their case.

Yes, I like their content but Phil or Dan are not creative or do some special stuff, nothing wrong if I want that I don't see youtube. At the end Phil is not using his degree but imo, like someone said, his project includes being famous and rich (the big brother) , he accomplished that and in no way he is changing the formula that works.

pearshaped34 wrote:[offtopic]Admittedly I think I only felt the need to comment on this because I feel particularly salty toward Hazel right now as I just decided to watch her last time of the month where she and Dodie call an ambulance for Dodies sprained ankle and then spend the rest of the month loling about it. Because you know there's nothing funnier than unnecessarily taking essential medical resources away from those who might really need them and putting even more of a financial burden on the already struggling NHS. Way to go girls. Rant over.[/offtopic]

I agree with the rest of the post but when I tried before to copy it and put it under spoiler I made a mess.
Hazel blew the topic because she likes to feel above vloggers and the phandom helped her in that. I didn't see P's video with sweetstrawberry? because I heard bad things about her, but from what I remember the phandom liked her,does someone remember something different?
[offtopic]doesn't the nhs check what's going on before sending an ambulance? over here they would not send one for something like a sprained ankle of a self-sufficient adult in case someone really needed that[/offtopic]

Phil liked a Stephen tweet (about Vegas ntl) akui, really not sure I follow your logic there. There are literally a million things he could do that don't include becoming a parent and could be relevant to his fame and popularity. I honestly could never see Phil including his parental status in his career, whatsoever. Never.

akui wrote:
The only transformation of Phil that can help his career, in a direction of becoming more rich, famous and popular, in my opinion, is becoming a dad.

I'm not even joking, i'm super serious.

Rebranding for Phil, or transformation, currently if he's going to a direction of being less persona-y or more real people like, is not going to do any good or harm to him. It will only make his current viewers happier, as long as his format stays the same.

Unless Phil's going to explore something completely different, a new genre or a new profession even, as far as i can see, the only option that can help him in a significant way is becoming a dad.

As for Dan idk, i think dropping the persona won't do him any good or damage either, as long as he doesn't turn into Tomska, he's fine.

Whilst I would love this, I don't think I agree it would help his career. AmazingPhil is the most PG channel they have. Nitty gritty parenthood just wouldn't be relatable to his mainly tween audience. In that sense it would probably serve to change his demographic (maybe to 21-35 as highest in numbers rather than 10-21) rather than increase his audience. I suppose if that's his goal then yes, it would help, but god knows what his goals are.

Dan on the other hand... I feel like fatherhood would help him immensely. Even the tweens don't tune into Dan for PG sweetness and light cos they ain't getting that. So even if they didn't relate to parenthood I think Dan on dinof could incorporate that kind of thing into what he already does (imagine... reason why Dan's a fail: left his baby for 2.3 seconds and it shat all up the bathroom wall. Cue Mr Phillip complaining loudly and them worrying they'll never be allowed to rent anywhere ever again).

Either way, from a personal level I would love this and whilst I feel the chances are remote, I hope for this kind of content one day

*Hi guys, I've decided to delurk for now as I find your discussions always very interesting

Just wanted to show this gem

[YouTube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUumpYIgVg4[/YouTube]
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Time stamps ^^
0.25 Phil sniffing lemons; Dans sigh
1.04 Phils mess up whepp boop pau
1.08 nice face Dan
1.26 "Every second that Phil stands, less donuts can be made from this mix"
1.31
1.49 D: Phil is now smacking my donuts He did it again
2.25 Sister Daniel returns
2.32 Laughed out loud, legit
2.34
2.57 Sweet goop dance
3.10 "That was good Dan"; Phils face 90% of time
6.06 Dan secretly pleased with his joke
6.14 "Scoop m into my pants and run to the airport" >> Thought of the muffin
6.16 Dan moan

Keep up the good stuff IDB

alittledizzy wrote: I understand what you're saying, I just think it's a personal opinion and not a valid widespread critique. And it's definitely not an opinion representative of the fandom. Dan's video "bathing in his own lore" (the memes video) is his most viewed one this year. His second most popular video was reacting his childhood videos, and there's nothing creative or original about that and it's also just Dan reacting to something about himself.

It is fine for people to want different things out of Phil's videos, of course. But it's also not a failing of Phil when he doesn't meet people's individual expectations if what he's doing is a) still widely popular and enjoyed, which this video certainly is - it's at 850k views in less than a day, it'll hit a million in under a couple of days b) what he wants to be making.

This really just takes me back around to my original point: there's no rule that says they have to be about substance. They can just be entertainers and it's not breaking some unspoken rule.

Agreed! Individual opinions don't need to have anything to do with public success, but it's still what we're here for to express, right?
I'm trying so hard not to compare the two of them right now but it's hard.
To me Dan's reacting to childhood videos and the meme one are still different as they both gave some new material or respectively collected a bunch of stuff together in a way that hadn't been done before.

Of course a lot of video ideas on youtube aren't creative (seeing as 90% are stolen/tags/reacting to.. anyway ) but I don't think they need to be? If the execution is good and leaves room for unexpected things to happen, they can be great anyway. In that regard I think the video is a bit too predictable. Anyhow, just an opinion. I'll be here waiting patiently for the next video of his

Here are some things I really liked about this one though (and I agree: more Phil talk yay!):
- 0:51 that sniff and exit. love it.
- him talking about what kind of people he met at 6am. He really does attract weirdos, doesn't he? (I feel you Phil)
- 4:36 That casual "Dan would freak out" sounds really natural and non-persona like
- 6:15 great to hear the story behind this photo, as he truely looks uncomfortable in this
- 8:30 the thougth of Phil being a troll to Dan about the hello internet video and things like that is so cute. Give us more troll-lester!
- 9:24 who goes to a disco when they're twelve? that sounds like it's illegal in any country

Procrastinator wrote:*Hi guys, I've decided to delurk for now as I find your discussions always very interesting

Just wanted to show this gem


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Link fixed. (You have keep the "http://")

Thanks

That bloopers video is o cute! I didn't even know Rosanna Pansiona before their collab, but she seems like such s cutie!

My favorite part has to be at 1:52 where Phil fucks up so badly and Rosanna is like "drama "
This is so much a typical comment you'd make about a couple bickering....

Love her galaxy sweater too

wowza wrote:I have been lurking on this website for ages, I decided to join now because I found this post on Tumblr about how some phan shippers can get out of hand. I think it's something important that everyone who watches Dan and Phil needs to read.
http://phandom-rants.tumblr.com/post/15 ... n-shippers

I also agree with this one: http://phandom-rants.tumblr.com/post/15 ... andor-phil this situation has been getting really bad lately

Does anyone else feel like the phandom has gotten out of hand recently?

Okay, I agree with the second post, and the first one, to some extent. But I also have quite a few problems with it. First, I agree what there are some people who treat D&P's girl friends horribly. But I agree with dizzy that Hazel is an awful example. The whole situation was blown out of proportion by far, there was hardly anyone actually sending her shit. Another thing this post brought up is that because phan is "played up", it's ridiculous to think it's a "phan moment"/proof. What? If D&P are playing phan up, is that what they want? For people to think of it as a "cute phan moment"? You can't ridicule people for believing things if you think Dan and Phil want them to believe it. The post said Dan and Phil use phan to profit. So if everyone listened to the post and stop shipping/"believing" in phan, wouldn't Dan and Phil lose their profit they apparently make off of phan? And unrelated, but that post is edited awfully. It's about phan shippers but then there are random lines about how phan can't be real. And how people shouldn't think it's real or something. It's not very cohesive. (Also, most phan shippers are not set on Dan and Phil being "gay", but alright.)

I written phan too many times in the past five minutes

Glad the bloopers from the baking finally got posted, I'm about to go watch it

spider wrote: 'I actually went for a walk at 6:00 A.M. and saw the strange creature that was morning.' What a beautiful sentence.

This. This is what I absolutely love about Phil. I love his spontaneity and humor and it's these little side comments that I find that remind me of what I love so much about him.

On Topic of what people are discussing about his content, it is the same comment over and over again about whether Phil's content has fallen into mediocrity, but hasn't it always been like this? You can't turn around and say that even his older content (though creative and original) was the best of YouTube? It was highbrow, off beat and frankly wouldn't have a place on YouTube today. (I showed my older brother Phil's old video "The Basket" where he laughed through and thought it was hilarious but then said "But I still don't like him." You can't please everybody, either Phil/Dan is "too gay", "not gay enough" and/or "not doing their best" to seemingly everybody).

This little comment feels like the first sentence of a book, it's strangely beautiful and ethereal and it gives me hope. Not that Phil will move on to the big leagues and start making high quality, challenging things but instead makes something that he actually enjoys and says says these strangely meaningful things that put a little joy in my day, because that's why I love him, not for what I expect him to be.

Ticia wrote:

31:58 onwards. I'm guessing this is part of the coming shitstorm Dan keeps mentioning

As the animators are basing the mouth movements around the voice acting I imagine it must be computer animated and the fact that the voice acting is done before the main animation suggests that this will be a high budget production (an actual movie/episode). Also because they're not sure it's for the typical "dan and phil target audience" (probably young teens is what they think ) I guess, it's either something for young kids or for adults. I don't know why, but I think it's another Disney film or possibly I'm completely off the mark, who knows? My main question is whether this is for youtuber or if it is mainstream...?

wowza wrote:I have been lurking on this website for ages, I decided to join now because I found this post on Tumblr about how some phan shippers can get out of hand. I think it's something important that everyone who watches Dan and Phil needs to read.
http://phandom-rants.tumblr.com/post/15 ... n-shippers

I also agree with this one: http://phandom-rants.tumblr.com/post/15 ... andor-phil this situation has been getting really bad lately

Does anyone else feel like the phandom has gotten out of hand recently?

Not to be condescending but I no longer take this phan policing as seriously as I take this out in the open spamming of "phan". I hate reading both and they're both a waste of time. The phandom is completely out of hand, I agree but it is naive to think that these posts are in any way helpful when the phandom is an unconquerable beast. It's up to every individuals responsibility and maturity in how we act. I certainly don't think an individual can control the internet. As fancybum put it eloquently, the phandom loses members but it also gains a lot more and I'm not too concerned about those who leave because that's there own issue (usually it's because of #drama). I personally find all fandoms equally terrible, it is only that the phandom is so large on tumblr and in youtube that allows these kind of people to be the loudest and stand out like a sore thumb. I wish the phandom existed on reddit where these people can be filtered out but unfortunately no *sigh*

Also regarding: the phandom "harassing" Hazel
I'm subscribed to Hazel, follow her on twitter so remember reading the initial tweets and comments, I have similar interests and love her content, relate to her, even look up to her so this comes from a place of pure love in my heart: she is full of shit.

She was looking for attention, there were no negative comments because I remember reading them but Hazel reacted as if there had been an online attack on her, there was nothing. Zilch. Literally.

bluewho wrote:

Sweet Jesus.

danphil333 wrote:

http://phanmoonlight.tumblr.com/post/15 ... nd-a-quiff

Sweet Jesus.

Lurktacularr wrote: Whilst I would love this, I don't think I agree it would help his career. AmazingPhil is the most PG channel they have. Nitty gritty parenthood just wouldn't be relatable to his mainly tween audience. In that sense it would probably serve to change his demographic (maybe to 21-35 as highest in numbers rather than 10-21) rather than increase his audience. I suppose if that's his goal then yes, it would help, but god knows what his goals are.

Sorry, maybe i wasn't make myself 100% clear. Let me start from the begining.

So far the AP brand is basically, an "angel bean who has a slight quirk and awkwardness", he's never very #relatable, that's Dan's brand. However, people who likes Phil are most likely to be enjoying his personality, and those who enjoys his angel bean image, would enjoy his angel bean dad image just as much. Being a dad wouldn't make him less PG as long as he keeps his quirkiness and angel beaness, he's already have a family friendly image, so why not go all the way.

So far their massive cult teen following are more likely coming from Dan's side and their "phan" shipping side. But if you look closely Phil's channel is actually quite ageless, people from 6 to 60 can enjoy him. He just happen to have a teen following that's all, now youtube viewers have aged up, the biggest user group are actually 25-34.

So as long as Phil is still part of the "phan", his teen demo aren't going anywhere, and he can attract older viewers, so why not?

Lurktacularr wrote: Dan on the other hand... I feel like fatherhood would help him immensely. Even the tweens don't tune into Dan for PG sweetness and light cos they ain't getting that. So even if they didn't relate to parenthood I think Dan on dinof could incorporate that kind of thing into what he already does (imagine... reason why Dan's a fail: left his baby for 2.3 seconds and it shat all up the bathroom wall. Cue Mr Phillip complaining loudly and them worrying they'll never be allowed to rent anywhere ever again).

Either way, from a personal level I would love this and whilst I feel the chances are remote, I hope for this kind of content one day

I think the exact opposite, Dan attracts young people, a lot, and his sarcastic image doesn't go along with fatherhood at all(maybe it will work idk), all the nitty gritty would actually drive his viewers away. People tune in Dan for #relatable comedy sketches and hilarious fail stories, not family vlog. He can complain about being a dad, but that's very hard to resonate to his teen demographics.

But i mean as a trash i will enjoy everything course.

Philena wrote: akui, really not sure I follow your logic there. There are literally a million things he could do that don't include becoming a parent and could be relevant to his fame and popularity. I honestly could never see Phil including his parental status in his career, whatsoever. Never.

I want to know what million things are cuz all i can think of is being a dad. Please tell.

Anyway, what i mean by being a dad is not putting his kids in every thumbnail of the video, i'm more talking about a status here, the dad status. He can talk about his kids' funny story from time to time without showing his kids to the camera. That's what i think. Phil wouldn't use his kid as clickbait.

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

akui wrote:

Lurktacularr wrote: Whilst I would love this, I don't think I agree it would help his career. AmazingPhil is the most PG channel they have. Nitty gritty parenthood just wouldn't be relatable to his mainly tween audience. In that sense it would probably serve to change his demographic (maybe to 21-35 as highest in numbers rather than 10-21) rather than increase his audience. I suppose if that's his goal then yes, it would help, but god knows what his goals are.

Sorry, maybe i wasn't make myself 100% clear. Let me start from the begining.

So far the AP brand is basically, an "angel bean who has a slight quirk and awkwardness", he's never very #relatable, that's Dan's brand. However, people who likes Phil are most likely to be enjoying his personality, and those who enjoys his angel bean image, would enjoy his angel bean dad image just as much. Being a dad wouldn't make him less PG as long as he keeps his quirkiness and angel beaness, he's already have a family friendly image, so why not go all the way.

So far their massive cult teen following are more likely coming from Dan's side and their "phan" shipping side. But if you look closely Phil's channel is actually quite ageless, people from 6 to 60 can enjoy him. He just happen to have a teen following that's all, now youtube viewers have aged up, the biggest user group are actually 25-34.

So as long as Phil is still part of the "phan", his teen demo aren't going anywhere, and he can attract older viewers, so why not?

Lurktacularr wrote: Dan on the other hand... I feel like fatherhood would help him immensely. Even the tweens don't tune into Dan for PG sweetness and light cos they ain't getting that. So even if they didn't relate to parenthood I think Dan on dinof could incorporate that kind of thing into what he already does (imagine... reason why Dan's a fail: left his baby for 2.3 seconds and it shat all up the bathroom wall. Cue Mr Phillip complaining loudly and them worrying they'll never be allowed to rent anywhere ever again).

Either way, from a personal level I would love this and whilst I feel the chances are remote, I hope for this kind of content one day

I think the exact opposite, Dan attracts young people, a lot, and his sarcastic image doesn't go along with fatherhood at all(maybe it will work idk), all the nitty gritty would actually drive his viewers away. People tune in Dan for #relatable comedy sketches and hilarious fail stories, not family vlog. He can complain about being a dad, but that's very hard to resonate to his teen demographics.

But i mean as a trash i will enjoy everything course.

Philena wrote: akui, really not sure I follow your logic there. There are literally a million things he could do that don't include becoming a parent and could be relevant to his fame and popularity. I honestly could never see Phil including his parental status in his career, whatsoever. Never.

I want to know what million things are cuz all i can think of is being a dad. Please tell.

Anyway, what i mean by being a dad is not putting his kids in every thumbnail of the video, i'm more talking about a status here, the dad status. He can talk about his kids' funny story from time to time without showing his kids to the camera. That's what i think. Phil wouldn't use his kid as clickbait.

I disagree. Dan's main demographic is 13-18 girls. You know what teen girls love? Babies. You know what they love almost as much? Their idol talking about his cute kids. I think Dan could very easily incorporate parenthood into his brand, if he wanted to. But, I do agree Phil could included parenthood in his content to some extent. I think people would like it if he told short little stories about something cute his kid did, or some family fun day they went on.

Edit:

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Cute. I wonder if D&P already had the water or if Wirrow brought it over. Do you think Bryony is there too?

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Nice, hope we get to hear something about it tomorrow.
And yeah black water does not sound good.

anathema wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Cute. I wonder if D&P already had the water or if Wirrow brought it over. Do you think Bryony is there too?

Almost definitely, they always hang as a foursome. Totally off topic but if anybody used to watch The OC back in the day, I listened to the first episode of the podcast Bryony just started and it was hilarious. She's watching it for the first time with two other guys who have seen it before and I laughed out loud so much at hearing them talk about how ridiculous it is/was (but enjoyably so). It's called We Used to be Teens and I recommend it (was going to put this in the podcast thread but saw it was pretty dead lol). Anyway shout out to Seth Cohen, the non threatening stalker nerd of my high school dreams.

fancybum wrote:

anathema wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Cute. I wonder if D&P already had the water or if Wirrow brought it over. Do you think Bryony is there too?

Almost definitely, they always hang as a foursome. Totally off topic but if anybody used to watch The OC back in the day, I listened to the first episode of the podcast Bryony just started and it was hilarious. She's watching it for the first time with two other guys who have seen it before and I laughed out loud so much at hearing them talk about how ridiculous it is/was (but enjoyably so). It's called We Used to be Teens and I recommend it (was going to put this in the podcast thread but saw it was pretty dead lol). Also she intimidates me (like does she want D&P fans all over it?) I cringed a little when I followed the podcast on Twitter because I have a D&P icon whoops. But she's tweeting about it so whatever it's fine. I'm definitely overthinking it. Anyway shout out to Seth Cohen, the non threatening stalker nerd of my high school dreams.

I'm also interested in checking out the podcast. Thanks for mentioning it. I get what you mean by being insecure by having a Dan/Phil icon, I kind of hate how YouTubers kind of look down on it, particularly Bryony. While I understand how she kind of feels insecure and annoyed by it, it's a bit weird to try and make those who genuinely like Dan and Phil bad for having their picture.

anathema wrote: I disagree. Dan's main demographic is 13-18 girls. You know what teen girls love? Babies. You know what they love almost as much? Their idol talking about his cute kids. I think Dan could very easily incorporate parenthood into his brand, if he wanted to. But, I do agree Phil could included parenthood in his content to some extent. I think people would like it if he told short little stories about something cute his kid did, or some family fun day they went on.

They love babies maybe for 3 month, they will move on to more #relatable things as long as they get over they initial excitement. Plus i think most Dan fans who resonate with Dan's cynical personality would be too cool for babies. "Ugh, kids, what are they really? Midget drunks." (a quote of Dylan Moran)

000dia000 wrote: I'm also interested in checking out the podcast. Thanks for mentioning it. I get what you mean by being insecure by having a Dan/Phil icon, I kind of hate how YouTubers kind of look down on it, particularly Bryony. While I understand how she kind of feels insecure and annoyed by it, it's a bit weird to try and make those who genuinely like Dan and Phil bad for having their picture.

I mean I'm sure she's fine as long as people aren't just spamming her about them, but I've never tried replying to her. Like she full on hates YT itself so fair enough; I've got a bigger problem with actual active YTers being doinks about fan accounts. Talking down to your audience/potential audience based on just a profile pic really blows my mind.

Ooh another completely pointless thing: what's the Dan version of 'Phimmy'? Dimmy? Jan? This is already a bitch on mobile so I'm not going to try linking, but on Cereal Time this week (titled Dream Episodes or something) Jimmy had Charlie put on a cat T-shirt and a hat with ears on and Charlie asked if he was being dressed up like danisnotonfire. Jimmy said 'that's partly just a treat for me'. So he still finds Dan attractive, just wanted to keep us all updated on that. Does 'Jam' work? I'm going with that. Phimmy is dead just like Cereal Time. rip.

fancybum wrote: Ooh another completely pointless thing: what's the Dan version of 'Phimmy'? Dimmy? Jan? This is already a bitch on mobile so I'm not going to try linking, but on Cereal Time this week (titled Dream Episodes or something) Jimmy had Charlie put on a cat T-shirt and a hat with ears on and Charlie asked if he was being dressed up like danisnotonfire. Jimmy said 'that's partly just a treat for me'. So he still finds Dan attractive, just wanted to keep us all updated on that. Does 'Jam' work? I'm going with that. Phimmy is dead just like Cereal Time. rip.

Why is phimmy dead, don't die, come back to me

I think that Jimmy recognizing Dan's hotness is like, like Dan is youtube Ryan Gosling or something, like universally attractive without being too niche or too tacky.

akui wrote:

Philena wrote: akui, really not sure I follow your logic there. There are literally a million things he could do that don't include becoming a parent and could be relevant to his fame and popularity. I honestly could never see Phil including his parental status in his career, whatsoever. Never.

I want to know what million things are cuz all i can think of is being a dad. Please tell.

Anyway, what i mean by being a dad is not putting his kids in every thumbnail of the video, i'm more talking about a status here, the dad status. He can talk about his kids' funny story from time to time without showing his kids to the camera. That's what i think. Phil wouldn't use his kid as clickbait.

he can take it one step at a time.
First find an partner? Even show them on camera since its an adult person. Talk about that...

Get a house with a partner and not the forever p-l-a-t-o-n-i-c best friend. Talk about that....

talk about getting engaged, getting a house, a dog, the tomatoes in his garden, the triops, more professional things like the radio or sth, travel, getting married. He can talk about all these stuff first and tell plenty of stories. I would love to see him talking about his relationship status and his career. many people will find it interesting. And a couple of years after that we can only dream of the dad status.
i am 26 and i am interested in these more than i am in kids. get the kids talk away from me
that post is not phan related at all. seriously. i can settle with jimmy or a random susan tbh

SquishPhan wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Nice, hope we get to hear something about it tomorrow.
And yeah black water does not sound good.

I assumed the black water was actually sarcasm for some kind of alcoholic spirit and coke although Google tells me you can buy black water (for extorionate prices mind you). Just let me pretend that there is a drunk night in with Deppy happening. Yes please. Ribena anyone




image credit: elena w

missemma wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Phan is socializing, this is not a drill. Maybe we'll hear about some new board games or get a movie rec from it in Phil's younow tomorrow. Hmm tbh I wouldn't trust black water either.

Nice, hope we get to hear something about it tomorrow.
And yeah black water does not sound good.

I assumed the black water was actually sarcasm for some kind of alcoholic spirit and coke although Google tells me you can buy black water (for extorionate prices mind you). Just let me pretend that there is a drunk night in with Deppy happening. Yes please. Ribena anyone

i saw other youtubers showing black water in their videos just yesterday. i didnt know it was a thing before that. Maybe they all just decided to try it now or someone send it to them. And phil was trying that weird water in his liveshow too. i think he just bought every expensive type of water he saw in the store and thats all.