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Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:11 am**

I loved Phil's liveshow so much, its definitely one of my favourite solo live shows of theirs ever. There were so many honest, open and candid moments of himself shared in such a lighthearted, firm manner that he seems to have gracefully mastered I was

Was a little bit bored with ISG but I never really got hyped for or expected any of the speculative theories anyway so maybe thats why. What I am low-key disappointed about instead is that Phil's ls maybe not talked about as much as it should imo

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:23 am**

I loved Phil's LS. It was so #relatable. I started wearing glasses whe I was 11yrs old (blame Harry Potter). I can't still figure out why my glasses are always dirty seconds after cleaning it. I tried wearing contact lenses but glasses are better for me as a programmer. Also, glassess (and fringe) are people with huge forehead 's best friend. It frames your face and cuts your huge forehead.

But the highlight of the ls for me was the uni stories. I wanted him to tell more about his uni life. Why does York only accepts 8 student in their PostProduction program? Is that normal? Can he tell stories on how he made his projects? What books did he read for his English degree? Did he made friends with people taking the same course or did he hangout more with the Chem people? I have so many questions. He enjoyed studying in York. He must have a lot of great memories. I also wanted to know how he paid for his education. Did he paid off his loans using his youtube income or did his parents help him pay the school fees? Dan has more rants about his short stay in uni than him.

I also loved what he said about not using his MA. Why can't he study something he is really interestes in. He is still using the concepts that he learned. He may not be a film maker (yet). But his works have reached more viewers than other film maker so I think he wins in life.

Dan's video: I am never in a hurry to watch any of his videos. I have a month before he uploads the next video. I don't even watch most of his videos. I do enjoy his ISG videos. Those are his videos that I rewatch. But even I was disappointed that he uploaded another ISG and I was not even excited to watch this. I thought he was "inspired" to make his next video? What happened? I will be more satisfied to see about any of his kinks than this.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:30 am**

Hi kids!

I have been lurking for some time since the good 'ol days when I would regale all of Dan's secret bondage emporium. I had hopped you would all remain sharp so I can get the latest deppy news in reliable peace.

but I am sad because somehow you all missed this. You can start watching at 6:20, but by 7:00 you should stop and take a break after watching them try to walk back what they just said as "fantasy."

You are welks. Please continue discussing abs and bad advice.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:42 am**

cocolero wrote:Hi kids!

I have been lurking for some time since the good 'ol days when I would regale all of Dan's secret bondage emporium. I had hopped you would all remain sharp so I can get the latest deppy news in reliable peace.

but I am sad because somehow you all missed this. You can start watching at 6:20, but by 7:00 you should stop and take a break after watching them try to walk back what they just said as "fantasy."

You are welks. Please continue discussing abs and bad advice.

been posted on page 19.

what's there to discuss? they might know something and therefore are being assholes who are outing a fellow lgbt youtuber, or, as they said, it's wishful thinking for gay guys and fangirls and it's just good ol' clickbaiting.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:53 am**

Is Dan going down the road where his videos will be mostly Q&A that is what ISG is to me

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:15 am**

I'm with you, Diyes_Celine. Phil taking about university was by far the most interesting bit of his ls. I wish he would have spent more time talking about his experiences, especially in grad school. I found his reasoning for wanting to continue at York the most intriguing. I got my bachelor's and Master's from the same university, which is usually frowned upon in the States (especially if you're planning to pursue a PhD). My reasons were similar to Phil's in that I was quite comfortable where I was. I just liked that insight into Phil's state of mind. Also, I thought it was interesting that he stopped watching Hannibal, finding it too dark in subject matter at the time., especially considering his penchant for horror. Maybe he'll give it a try again sometime. It is one of my fave shows.

As for Dan, idk. I actually liked his ISG this time, and I usually hate them. I found this one to be sweet and enjoyable. He wasn't overreacting, which is usually my biggest complaint about his videos. Honestly, I just found it quite peculiar that he chose to address those tweets. I don't understand why he didn't just ignore them, or approach it in a less confrontational way, maybe? I am protective of deppy's personal life, of their privacy, but I don't feel protective whatsoever in this circumstance. You face criticism with all jobs. Get a thicker skin, mate. Like boredtotears said, he is a big boy who doesn't need protected.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:23 am**

I wonder if it will make a difference if people will just stop over-hyping Dan's to-be video. I mean, Dan hyped us up, but some people always blow it out of proportion, and since Dan is always worried about what other people think of him... I think that he feels compelled to meet their expectations, until he realized that millions of people will watch it, which makes him anxious, and... backtracks. Maybe if there's not that much attention brought to it, maybe he would have posted it. Still, he's also in the fault for bringing it up in the first place because he should know by now that some people in the phandom blows things out of proportion. Also, some people in the phandom should just chill out because their coming out fantasies will never happen. Probably in another universe, but not here.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:17 am**

ISG isn't my favourite of Dan's videos but I enjoyed it. Not much to say about it though. The orange trump bit was great.

Phil's liveshow was nice. His reaction to hornets was priceless, and I am somewhat surprised that he is so into halloumi. "Salty dream square", I mean.

It was interesting to heared about his university experience. I went to college but not uni so I don't really relate to much of what he was talking about, but my husband is finishing up a degree in linguistics and got a kick out of Phil mentioning that he found it difficult. A kick of sympathy probably, it all looks incomprehensible to me.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:38 am**

So I've decided to rewatch ISG 9 and I'm realizing that I find the content of the emails themselves more entertaining/funny than Dan's commentary. [Especially the bee movie script in morse code. that girl is a winner. she saved the video.]

I also wonder what you guys thought of the "You can interpret that in a bunch of different ways and frankly all of them would be true" comment. (I know some of you touched upon it but I'm still fuzzy). I'm not even trying to read into it too much. I just literally don't understand what he could possibly mean. The only things I can think of that meaning would be
1. he is a boy
2. he has experience
3. he has experience with boys

and something inside of me REALLY doubts that he meant it that way. I'm just wondering if I'm just being a demon phannie or if other people who are a bit calmer and less extra than I am also took it to mean that.

Edit: also when he brought up the picture of the creepy old photo did anyone else remember the Super Amazing Project? I loved the Super Amazing Project. I miss that series so much. I know why they stopped it but I still miss all the weird news, the games, and the spooky pictures.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:25 am**

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:Edit: also when he brought up the picture of the creepy old photo did anyone else remember the Super Amazing Project? I loved the Super Amazing Project. I miss that series so much. I know why they stopped it but I still miss all the weird news, the games, and the spooky pictures.

i remember SAP! i don't think i was around when it first started.. i was there for the end though i believe. i think i binge watched a lot of them in one sitting and i loved the series. i loved their halloween episode, that one sits in my mind as a fond memory. it was a cute, laid back series though in my opinion and i was quite sad to see it end and be taken over by someone else. is sap still a thing though? like..is it still going?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:29 am**

Skylar wrote:
/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:Edit: also when he brought up the picture of the creepy old photo did anyone else remember the Super Amazing Project? I loved the Super Amazing Project. I miss that series so much. I know why they stopped it but I still miss all the weird news, the games, and the spooky pictures.
I used to watch the new episodes when they came out with my friends in our joke of a Portuguese class. It was always a fun time. I remember someone taking over it but when I just checked it those videos seem to be gone. And it doesn't seem like anyone is continuing it. That's too bad. It's a creative goldmine.
i remember SAP! i don't think i was around when it first started.. i was there for the end though i believe. i think i binge watched a lot of them in one sitting and i loved the series. i loved their halloween episode, that one sits in my mind as a fond memory. it was a cute, laid back series though in my opinion and i was quite sad to see it end and be taken over by someone else. is sap still a thing though? like..is it still going?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:40 am**

cocolero wrote:Hi kids!

I have been lurking for some time since the good 'ol days when I would regale all of Dan's secret bondage emporium. I had hopped you would all remain sharp so I can get the latest deppy news in reliable peace.

but I am sad because somehow you all missed this. You can start watching at 6:20, but by 7:00 you should stop and take a break after watching them try to walk back what they just said as "fantasy."

You are welks. Please continue discussing abs and bad advice.

It's actually pretty interesting when paired with the Shane Dawson thing, to see youtubers referencing Dan as someone who just isn't official out but still loosely qualifies in their gay youtuber category.

Comments like Dan's whole 'experienced boy' response in today's ISG really illustrate why people would go ahead and make those assumptions and feel publicly confident about them - but also Dan's level of fame and fear of outing someone make people hold back. (Which isn't really a bad thing, except maybe frustrating to Dan if his end goal is for everyone to accept him as out w/o having to say it. Because I imagine for bigger youtubers, there is Knowing and then there is being the first to Really Go There publicly.)

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:and something inside of me REALLY doubts that he meant it that way. I'm just wondering if I'm just being a demon phannie or if other people who are a bit calmer and less extra than I am also took it to mean that.

Hmm. I assumed he meant experience with boys, which to me is the demon phannie interpretation. How much more experienced with boys can you get than an almost eight year long relationship with one?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 am**

alittledizzy wrote:Hmm. I assumed he meant experience with boys, which to me is the demon phannie interpretation. How much more experienced with boys can you get than an almost eight year long relationship with one?

Part of me thinks that he was trying to hint at having had sexual experiences with other boys and another part of me is literally shutting down at the mere thought of that being a possibility. I'm kind of hoping he will address what he meant in his next liveshow but I highly doubt that's going to happen, especially if it meant what I think it meant. If that's the case then he will never mention it ever again and just let us wonder about it forever.

This whole thing kind of reminds me of the time he dropped the whole "What even is your sexuality" line into the diss track and I was fucked up for a little while.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:07 am**

Outside of the school discussion, Phil's liveshow did approximately nothing for me, which is generally how I've felt since around the time he began shortening them. I like Phil's voice and the way he speaks and his general mouth noises? (I've written a lot of weird things online, but this might take the cake.) So, he's very lovely background noise, but like.... realistically, y'all? I don't feel like I get much content out of them.

So, that said, and because I'm stereotypical as fuck, I mostly just wanna talk about Dan and how genuinely bothered I was by him today. This is nothing if not his fault. And everyone said everything so much nicer than me???

000dia000 wrote:It's disappointing, when Dan constantly stresses creative integrity yet has no issues doing this. If he needed to push out a video, quick, and simple, do a Truth or Dare 6, at least they're mindless entertainment and be different every time. The ISG, get's old, quick, and as it is obvious that Dan handpicks submissions beforehand, all immersion is lost and...what's the point? What IS the point?

This literally is why I don't like ISGs. I assumed it would be an ISG 2 liveshows ago, when Dan said he was prepping his new vid and had done "half the work" aka reading through emails and finding the ones he'd answer/react to. It's like a prolonged version of the mushroom situation from pinof 7. (We know that you know about the stress mushroom. Why are you pretending that the stress mushroom is surprising and new?) In general this bothers me when it happens on DAPG, but I feel like ISG is just like a grand culmination of over-acting I'm super not interested in.

And it's lazy. It just is. And for a guy that prides himself on his list of video ideas, he sure does fall back on ISG a lot.

In terms of the reaction Dan got and his own very obvious bitterness in responding to people on Twitter/Facebook, thisthisthisTHIS:

fancybum wrote: OR just be a bit less oblique when talking about his ideas. Whether we knew an ISG was coming 3 weeks ago or right when he posts, he's still going to get the views an ISG is going to get, so maybe just say 'I think the next vid will be ISG while I keep thinking about/working on my other idea' or something. People will still send disappointment his way over it if they aren't into the idea, but it wouldn't be all at once like happened here. He doesn't need to spell out every video, but maybe just hint better if it's going to be a sketch-based vid or..... ISG.

Regardless of whether he told us he had changed his video plan 3 LS's ago (which he did, so for this I give the phandom 10% of the blame), he was still trying to build it up. Was there the noted kink reference in this ISG? I only watched it once, but I didn't catch it. He mentioned working on it a few times and never once tried to temper expectation. It still sounded like a sketch video. He even claimed people were asking for this? Which sure maybe some were, but please. He's not stupid. He knows that we know that ISG is his fall-back. It's him doing the bare minimum, so let's not pretend this is ~for the fans~.

Then as a nice little cherry on top he (relatively uncharacteristically in 2017) calls people out for their disappointment?? Don't build it up then. In general, tbh. Don't tell us about your lists of ideas and your quality-thresholds and don't constantly start to tell us a story, then stop and decide it's a good video idea only to never share it again.

I respect that the dude has his demons to battle, but that's not enough of an excuse for me. So I'm a bit disappointed in that sort of parental way where I think he could have done better. I know he could have done better. And now I probably have to wait another month, because he's gonna call this a job well done and play Zelda for a week.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:16 am**

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:Hmm. I assumed he meant experience with boys, which to me is the demon phannie interpretation. How much more experienced with boys can you get than an almost eight year long relationship with one?
Part of me thinks that he was trying to hint at having had sexual experiences with other boys and another part of me is literally shutting down at the mere thought of that being a possibility.

why wouldn't it be a possibility?

i think since he himself said that all possible interpretations would be true, he invited everyone to think it could also mean experience with boys. he knows how his fanbase interprets everything.

lol @ him taking this to facebook too.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:24 am**

papierklemmen wrote:why wouldn't it be a possibility?

i think since he himself said that all possible interpretations would be true, he invited everyone to think it could also mean experience with boys. he knows how his fanbase interprets everything

Very very true. Perhaps I feel like it couldn't be a possibility because it's not really something I expect to hear from him. I'm still getting used to the Dan who jokes about his sexuality or the idea of liking boys because I'm still in "fyi i like vagina" mode in my brain. Does that make any sense? It's 1 am here and I'm overthinking everything right now

On the topic of Dan bringing all of this on himself, I could not agree more with everything you said rizzo.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:03 am**

Dapg sims: boring. their usual 'story-telling' mode was ruined by the jumpy editing, every scene was cut off abruptly. There was no mellow flow from one moment to the next near disaster.

Phils ls: you're a sweetheart, can't remember a single thing you talked about but you seemed happy this week as well. Go You !

Dans isg: Stop being so defensive. If you want to make an isg, make an isg. If people don't like it, who cares, if you want/like/enjoy isg vids, do them, people are going to dislike stuff, and stuff is still going to happen (people disliked trump and he's president). Be unapologetically you. Whatever that may entail. (addendum incase I am sued: whilst being yourself, not doing harm to others is a better choice than actively injuring them.)
All that said, I liked this isg more than others, but I like your anedotes more, much more. But that's just me.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:01 am**

Dan's video - disappointing but understandable. As much as I despise this series, I think Dan's been in a pretty bad headspace lately (who else has August 14th marked as "ask Dan about that one week in March!!!" in their diaries bc I do) so I think we can forgive him for this one. Besides, the video itself was pretty good for an ISG video - the email responses were entertaining if nothing else.

That being said, I do think the frustration from the phandom was to be expected. Since he holds his videos to such a "high" standard that sentiment is transferred over to the phandom so when he uploads another ISG it's like his words and actions do influence us a lot (although I admit that the coming out/furry speculation were entirely fan-fueled lmfao). I do find it funny that in an effort to combat the negativity he's been releasing, other people have been spamming him with "OMG MY SMOL BEAN PRINCE NOTHING YOU DO IS WRONG BC WE LOVE YOU" because... no. That's also not the answer. He is a fully grown man, and we as an audience do have a right to criticise his content (also - at the end of the day it's his job. He has to deal with the pros and cons, that's just how it is.)

Haven't watched Phil's LS yet, looks really pleasant but unfortunately school dares to get in the way of my obsession. (If anyone does/has done the IB, specifically IB literature, send help. What do.)

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:33 am**

I haven't posted in a while so I have a lot to catch up on but I've been on the outs with deppy this week
Phil's Video
Not much to say. I liked it but probably won't watch it again.

Sims Video
I'll keep this short since there's already been a lot said but I didn't like it. I did think the bubble bath part was nice but I didn't laugh once and I didn't feel like Dan and Phil connected with each other at all during the video. Their bants were off, the editing was choppy, and they both seemed distracted. I don't hate the sims series and usually look forward to their domestic waffles but this did not deliver.

Dan's Liveshow
Again, Dan was stressed out, I was stressed out- not the best combination. I did mildly enjoy his freak-out about the gym and how 60% of the live show was about Phil but the liveshow was nothing special.

Phil's Liveshow
I wasn't going to watch it because I've been tired of all of the deppy drama but I did and I'm glad. I was ready to take a break from Dan and Phil because I wasn't having fun anymore but Phil always puts me in a good mood. As much as I like Dan, I'm a Phil girl and he is the one that keeps me coming back.

ISG
Didn't watch it. Wont watch it. Want to mute most of the phandom and sometimes Dan. Also want to shake Dan and tell him that he doesn't have to give us a video if it's going to be sloppy seconds. Dan wears me out and he also worries me.

Summary: Deppy and I haven't broken up but they are sleeping on the couch

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:45 am**

Hey guys! I've been reading for the past few months and finally decided to delurk!
I just wanted to say that, I thought it was my imagination that the sub counter was going down for Dan as I was watching ISG last night but looking this morning on vidstatsx He did lose a couple hundred people (I'm not sure if the time adds up as I'm in UK and this site looks American -just thought it was worth mentioning but not sure if I've seen this happen to him before?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:19 am**

I'm probably a little bit late to the party but I just want to say that Phil's liveshow was probably one of the best ones he has ever made. I loved his uni talk and that he wanted to get his master degree because he wasn't ready fot the wild world. I'm finishing my MA this June and I still don't know what to do with my life

That bit about his glasses, that it's his life and he wouldn't miss them, was great. Phil just shut everyone's mouths. Dan rather say that he just forgot about his earings then tell his audience that it's his life and his decision if he wants to wear them or not. Maybe everyone would leave him alone if he just got the courage Phil got.

And finally, when everyone was freaking out about "name change" after the first liveshow he said he has an idea about a new video, I wrote here that people should expect ISG9

When he said in the last two liveshows that he has changed his mind, I didn't expect anything more. So I wasn't surprised, upset or mad and quite enjoyed the video even though I don't particularly like ISG. So maybe if you all will expect ISG everytime Dan says something about a new video you will live happy lives

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:37 am**

Oh wow. I was at work all day and came back to this, yikes.

re: Dan's video - My immediate reaction upon seeing it was ISG 9 was just laughter tbh, I thought it was quite funny that after everyone hyping up the video that's all it was. I don't actually hate ISG, it's by no means my favourite thing Dan does but I don't think it's the worst either, so I wasn't too mad. I actually didn't mind the video, I'd give it a solid 6/10. It was low effort and low creativity, but it felt kind of more genuine than some of his other ISGs? Maybe? Or maybe I'm just trying too hard to be positive about it, I don't know. I guess I wasn't as disappointed as other people as I hadn't hyped it up at all in my head, my expectations are always low and I had a feeling it'd either be the dentist video or an ISG. The fact that ISG 8 was uploaded seven months ago also helps, I think I'd be more bitter if that'd been more recent.

re: the reaction to Dan's video - I'm kind of torn tbh. On the one hand, I think Dan has to take some responsibility and fancybum raises a great point that this was to be expected when Dan is knowingly vague about something as innocuous as an ISG. He did hype it up by saying people had been pressuring him to make it and it possibly had something to with kink-shaming.

However, I do feel kind of bad for him as it's not his fault that people made a whole thing out of him possibly coming out, and then failing to deliver. It makes me so uncomfortable to see people genuinely disappointed that it wasn't a coming out video, and it makes me uncomfortable to know that he's seen those reactions. I can't really put a finger on why exactly that makes me so uneasy, it just does. I think just the fact that he openly mentioned having had a bad week makes me feel like he's maybe not in the best place mentally (not trying to speculate about his mental health, that's none of my business, but it does feel relevant), and that "thank you for the polite and positive tweet that made me smile" tweet really made me feel bad for him. Having said that, he's a grown adult who definitely doesn't need excessive coddling from well-meaning fans, that stuff makes me cringe just as much.

re: Phil's liveshow - I love Phil so much!!! What a pleasant and enjoyable liveshow, it truly saved my life. I can't believe I used to find his live shows boring and skip them, now they're like the highlight of my week. He comes across as such a kind, endearing, likeable person in them and I always find myself in a much better headspace after I watch them. Agree with everyone who's said the highlight was his uni talk, that felt really candid and honest and was such a nice insight into an aspect of his life that he rarely talks about in detail. I loved hearing him talk about how he was good at child speech acquisition, I used to take linguistics and didn't get the hang of it at all except for that part, so that was relatable. Phil just felt so adult and real in that conversation, if that makes sense, and he seemed so passionate and interested in what he was talking about, it was great

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:19 am**

I actually laughed out loud when I saw that the video was another ISG. Like, what the hell, Daniel?
I agree that the phandom tends to get over-hyped over things (I cannot believe that people were really, really expecting a coming out video, for example. Do they even know Dan? He will never do that. Let it go), but Dan has his faults as well this time. Because he DID hype it up. All that talk about how it was a long-time coming video, that people were demanding it from him, that he was nervous about it.. and then.. when the time finally came.. it was a ISG.
Now, maybe he had another video in mind but then discarded the idea for whatever reason. But, if tha's the case, I think he should have said so, at least people wouldn't get their hopes up and the reaction to the video would have been a lot more chill.
I feel bad for him, tho. Because I have this sense of protection towards him, but like a lot of people have said, he is a grown man who should take positive criticism as an opportunity to do better.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:22 am**

I'm amongst the crowd more amused than disappointed by the ISG video.
I guess his hints from the last LS kind of make sense, though please Dan who on earth peer-pressured you to do another ISG? Clearly I am in the wrong corner of fandom then because I havn't ever seen anybody demand this.
(Also agree that he kind of dug his own grave with all the hints at the new video, though people must be crazy to think it would be a coming-out video, but it definitely sounded like something new and "special")

I also don't really get the sentiment that he might feel obligated to do these because he has so many unanswered questions in his inbox like, who on earth writes to this guy and expects an actual life advice? Not only is the chance of being featured infinitesimal, it might be months later and you probably only get a sarcastic remark in return. But I have to admit his advice in this one was more solid, so maybe he changed how he wants do go about this? Maybe one of his alternative career plans is hosting a radio call-in show where he does actual counseling

Also what is it that's so stressful to him right now? I really wanna know now. Is it buying the house finally? Or some mysterious new projects that will be revealed in summer? Any spculations on what it could be guys??

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:49 am**

mio wrote:I'm amongst the crowd more amused than disappointed by the ISG video.
I guess his hints from the last LS kind of make sense, though please Dan who on earth peer-pressured you to do another ISG? Clearly I am in the wrong corner of fandom then because I havn't ever seen anybody demand this.

i thought he might have been referring to the e-mails sent to him for isg -- i suppose if the incoming stream remains constant or goes up, it's an indication for him that people still want him to do the videos and what he might have meant with the peer-pressuring. it's also got over 870k views and a less than 0.4% dislike ratio as of now; i don't know how good that is compared to other dinof videos, but it seems like an overall success i guess?

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