Dan & Phil Part 42: lying makes you go to hell

[pastelspectre]

i'm so jealous at all these meet and greet pictures they're both so adorable and pure and aaa i just hope one day i can meet them.

ps: if anyone here met dan and phil (which i saw two people here did yes), do they give good hugs?

edit: top of the page oh jeez

[/fɪl lɛstɚ/]

I actually love Phil's top. First it was Dan's sandals now this...
They both look absolutely amazing in my opinion

I also love Phil's top! I don't know if I'd like it on other people but something about Phil wearing a shirt with butterflies on it is so precious to me

[Susanisnotafish]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

[gnostic]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

[flarequake]

In the U.K. the usual nickname is Phil, Philly sounds American to me, I first heard it with Phil de Franco.

[Lucyrg95]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

Phil is normally the shorter form, Philly I've only ever heard as a joke, never in a serious manner like the way Danny can be a persons actual name that they use all the time, if ya get me

[Susanisnotafish]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

[SexyTrashCan]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

Honestly I've always been inclined to believe he does it to tease Danny boy

[notworthreading]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

I believe this is a safe term of endearment for two closeted guys who don't have the luxury to do/say much else on camera.

[Susanisnotafish]

This is adorable! Also rare footage of Dan saying "shoot" instead of a variety of stronger expletives. And have y'all discussed on here already why they've started calling each other Danny and Philly?

Genuine question for our UK friends: is Philly genuinely the shorter / informal form used for Philipp, like Danny for Daniel? Cause Philly sounds a bit ridiculous to my foreigner ear tbh
and i don't think i've ever heard it outside of Depps.

But yeah, they have been occasionally calling each other that for a while.

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?[/quote

I believe this is a safe term of endearment for two closeted guys who don't have the luxury to do/say much else on camera.

Wow! I didn't even think of that. Bad That's my new fave head canon.

[fancybum]

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

I believe this is a safe term of endearment for two closeted guys who don't have the luxury to do/say much else on camera.

Luxury or desire? Not to harp on about it, but at what point is a person not closeted? Especially for people who have clearly expressed on many occasions that they're not interested in labels.. Like is it just cool to deem somebody in a closet because they haven't 1. chosen a label (because that's required I guess) and then 2. announced that label to the world? And there's that pesky yet implied there (because who wants to live forever in a closet, need them labels yo to escape), that at some point that state may/will change, and until that day they're Closeted People? They're ('potentially' wtf ever) keeping private a relationship, but they're not really being so tight-lipped about ..appreciating.. guys y'know. I guess it's ultimately just nitpicking over language, but it feels off somehow, like in ~2012 I suppose it would be fitting (what with the overcompensating, oh god), but nowadays, mehhhh...

[notworthreading]

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

I believe this is a safe term of endearment for two closeted guys who don't have the luxury to do/say much else on camera.

Luxury or desire? Not to harp on about it, but at what point is a person not closeted? Especially for people who have clearly expressed on many occasions that they're not interested in labels.. Like is it just cool to deem somebody in a closet because they haven't 1. chosen a label (because that's required I guess) and then 2. announced that label to the world? And there's that pesky yet implied there (because who wants to live forever in a closet, need them labels yo to escape), that at some point that state may/will change, and until that day they're Closeted People? They're ('potentially' wtf ever) keeping private a relationship, but they're not really being so tight-lipped about ..appreciating.. guys y'know. I guess it's ultimately just nitpicking over language, but it feels off somehow, like in ~2012 I suppose it would be fitting (what with the overcompensating, oh god), but nowadays, mehhhh...

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here or why you're even trying to come for me but by closeted I meant secret relationship. And whether it's luxury or desire doesn't matter, point is they feel like (probably) it would be a bother to go public about their relationship therefore they're not announcing they're a couple.

[fancybum]

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here or why you're even trying to come for me but by closeted I meant secret relationship. And whether it's luxury or desire doesn't matter, point is they feel like (probably) it would be a bother to go public about their relationship therefore they're not announcing they're a couple.

lolwut damn, how was any of that 'coming for you'? Is this not a discussion board? I didn't quite have a point, I was trying to discuss something to get somewhere, but okay bye. Fuck.

[Catallena]

I'm pretty sure the whole Danny and Philly thing started in the phandom, specifically phanfiction because people wanted to write cute nicknames, but when asked about it they denied ever calling each other things like that. I can't tell you exactly when they started doing it, but maybe in the early stages of DAPG? Maybe a little before that even as a way of teasing as well because of how ~ridiculous~ they found it to be. Basically, I think it's something they started doing to tease the phandom a bit as a 'we know you filthy trashcans' joke but then it slipped into their daily lives because those nicknames seem to come pretty natural to them nowadays. I still see it as a form of lighthearted teasing though, but in a by far more affectionate way than before.

[jesuisunèléve]

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here or why you're even trying to come for me but by closeted I meant secret relationship. And whether it's luxury or desire doesn't matter, point is they feel like (probably) it would be a bother to go public about their relationship therefore they're not announcing they're a couple.

lolwut damn, how was any of that 'coming for you'? Is this not a discussion board? I didn't quite have a point, I was trying to discuss something to get somewhere, but okay bye. Fuck.

I think they have already shown they are a couple, they just didn't use words to do so, thus no formal "annoucement" was made. I don't think their relationship is secret, either, because if it were truly a secret, they would do better at their attempts to hide it, for example #bedgate.

As for the nicknames? Don't forget "Philly is in Philly" in TABINOF. LOL

[QuiteFriendly]

Any thoughts as to why they started with the nicknames? I remember a ls a while back where Phil said he doesn't call Dan Danny and Dan said he wasn't a Danny. I think Dan calls him Philly in response to Phil starting calling him Danny? Think it's fan service or teasing bc he doesnt like it or genuine affection?

I believe this is a safe term of endearment for two closeted guys who don't have the luxury to do/say much else on camera.

Luxury or desire? Not to harp on about it, but at what point is a person not closeted? Especially for people who have clearly expressed on many occasions that they're not interested in labels.. Like is it just cool to deem somebody in a closet because they haven't 1. chosen a label (because that's required I guess) and then 2. announced that label to the world? And there's that pesky yet implied there (because who wants to live forever in a closet, need them labels yo to escape), that at some point that state may/will change, and until that day they're Closeted People? They're ('potentially' wtf ever) keeping private a relationship, but they're not really being so tight-lipped about ..appreciating.. guys y'know. I guess it's ultimately just nitpicking over language, but it feels off somehow, like in ~2012 I suppose it would be fitting (what with the overcompensating, oh god), but nowadays, mehhhh...

Forcing labels on people, including the label Closeted and defining what that means, that's a topic that really gets to me. As well as the implied yet, there is also in implied accusation of lying because you're seen as not telling the truth. I just hate that so much, and I think that if we truly want a society where people are free to be who they are, it's not about accepting different labels but rather accept the lack of labels in the first place. (Yes, sometimes I'm a tad pretentious) I really love the fact that deppy don't label themselves and I hope they never do.

I realize that people sometimes takes short cuts when speaking/writing so I'm not trying to accuse anyone here of anything.

[onetruetrash]

I don't think their relationship is secret, either, because if it were truly a secret, they would do better at their attempts to hide it, for example #bedgate.

Wait, wtf is #bedgate?

[AmazingOCD]

As for the nicknames? Don't forget "Philly is in Philly" in TABINOF. LOL

I think that was actually in DAPGO, when they were in Philadelphia
The way that they call each other 'Danny' and 'Philly' nowadays is freaking adorable.

As for Deppy being 'out'... they are out for me now. Still trying to get over the Singapore pics
antiphans

I think actions speak louder than words sometimes and that's clearly what they are trying to do now so the phandom doesn't go into overdrive when/if it's made VERY OBVIOUS. "cough"if/when they move"cough"
I'm glad they are doing it like this rather than just full-on stating it. Like, if that happened, their channels will be overrun with comments about relationship-stuff (which I wouldn't want to happen, their channels will skyrocket in views and then take a nosedive)
Plus they would want people to watch for their content, rather than their relationship.

The same thing goes for Dan's sexuality (and recently Phil's) with the male attraction references slipped into vids and ls.

As for Dans Instagram pics and fashion sense... I LOVE HIM SO MUCH!
Yes Dan you don't like being put in a box and that's A-OK!

He has come so far... I just watched felucca's Dan attraction playlist and wow-wee - Dan from 2012-13 will be rolling in his grave

"Goes back to crying about missing TATINOF Dublin and the fact that she will never meet Deppy"

[Birdie]

A relationship is secret until the people believed to be in it confirm it. With words. Whether or not you believe they’re a couple doesn’t really matter here. We do not know. No matter what we might think they have done to show us they’re in a relationship, it’s all interpretation at this point. We don’t know and we won’t know until they tell us, no matter what we think we might know. How do a few nice pictures from Singapore make them out? I literally don’t understand your reasoning here.

Everyone can believe whatever they want of course but they’re not out until they say they’re out. Actions do matter, yes, but actions are not a coming out. This is not about assuming or whatever, everyone can assume what they please for themselves, but acting like they’re out like they’ve confirmed it is kind of… not cool. We’re apparently all about not forcing labels on Dan and Phil but isn’t this the exact same thing? They haven’t said they’re together but everyone is acting like they have.

That said, Danny and Philly are literally just nicknames. It’s cute they call each other that but what is it supposed to mean really? Why does every discussion about stuff like this have to end in a discussion about whether or not they’re together? I'm sorry I sound this cranky, but this makes me really tired lately.

[notworthreading]

I legit don't get how and why my post prompted a convo on how being "closeted" (forbidden word ?) makes one a liar and also how a few pics of them visiting an aquarium confirms their relationship.
But, okay.

[onetruetrash]

I'm glad they are doing it like this rather than just full-on stating it. Like, if that happened, their channels will be overrun with comments about relationship-stuff (which I wouldn't want to happen, their channels will skyrocket in views and then take a nosedive)
Plus they would want people to watch for their content, rather than their relationship.

The same thing goes for Dan's sexuality (and recently Phil's) with the male attraction references slipped into vids and ls.

My thoughts exactly. I've always had a theory that Dan and Phil get lot of views for more than their videos or personalities. Don't get me wrong, I think they'd still be successful if they were open about these things, but not as much. People want to look for hints about their sexuality/relationship status. There's a sense of ambiguity and mystery. Without that, I'm not sure how well their channels would hold up.

Side note: I know that we don't really know about their relationship status, this is just my opinion.

[cherrybomb3]

bloody heck yall are wild

without starting any drama (hopefully), i think that a possibility regarding dropping hints about sexuality without explicitly stating anything is that it may be a rejection of the rather heteronormative concept of 'coming out'. im sure this has already been brought up here, but d&p may be of the opinion that, if straight people dont have to formally announce their straightness, why should they announce their sexuality?

either that or its just queerbaiting jk sort of

[onetruetrash]

d&p may be of the opinion that, if straight people dont have to formally announce their straightness, why should they?

I know, I don't see why people don't take this into consideration.

[Birdie]

d&p may be of the opinion that, if straight people dont have to formally announce their straightness, why should they?

I know, I don't see why people don't take this into consideration.

I agree with this when it's about their sexuality, but it isn't right now. It's about whether or not they can be considered "out" as a couple. I think, they can not, since there is no confirmation whatsoever. It would be the exact same with a straight couple.

[Susanisnotafish]

d&p may be of the opinion that, if straight people dont have to formally announce their straightness, why should they?

I know, I don't see why people don't take this into consideration.

I agree with this when it's about their sexuality, but it isn't right now. It's about whether or not they can be considered "out" as a couple. I think, they can not, since there is no confirmation whatsoever. It would be the exact same with a straight couple.

I agree with all of this, but I don't think that if they are in a relationship they will ever confirm bc of wanting a private life. I've always told myself that if they ever have a child together I will take that as confirmation, but I'm beginning to think they would leave YouTube or try to keep the child secret (is that even possible) bc they are so private. The mystery does keep me interested, but that isn't why I stan them.