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Alright I was sympathetic the first time but fucking christ LEAVE IT PHIL. Nobody's buying what you're selling.

I really hope they park this discussion now because I totally got the first back and forth (cringe as it was) but you've said your piece. Drop it now.

Also aside from all this they watch everything together so as if one's gonna hole up in a room and be marathoning shows without the other.

My dick is so soft over that. We deserve nothing less than a liveshow to make up for this gross misdemeanour. 8pm UK time good for you boys? Cool, ta.

SquishPhan wrote:

akui wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

well... dedication, I suppose?

I for one don't believe it.
It would just make much more sense to share the room, even if they are just friends. At least that is what I would do.

Yeah, seriously someone send them a guidebook of how to be platonic friends, do they have no real life friends or what, this is even more suspicious than sharing a room.

They really have no clue how platonic friends behave. Maybe that is what you get when you only ever hang out with other couples.

Even if they are just platonic friends, having a double bedroom each just seems like a very selfish choice when space is tight on a tourbus? They can't justify having a queen bed to themselves while Martyn, Cornelia & crew are all cramped in bunks.
I'm 100% team sharing-a-room-and-overcompensating

Lurktacularr wrote:Alright I was sympathetic the first time but fucking christ LEAVE IT PHIL. Nobody's buying what you're selling.

I really hope they park this discussion now because I totally got the first back and forth (cringe as it was) but you've said your piece. Drop it now.

Also aside from all this they watch everything together so as if one's gonna hole up in a room and be marathoning shows without the other.

My dick is so soft over that. We deserve nothing less than a liveshow to make up for this gross misdemeanour. 8pm UK time good for you boys? Cool, ta.

They really should drop it now.

Good point they do watch everything together, so that makes their whole story even more unbelievable.

Yes a live show is very welcome, but then again I’m hoping for one every day, and so far no luck.

bluebox-away wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

akui wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

well... dedication, I suppose?

I for one don't believe it.
It would just make much more sense to share the room, even if they are just friends. At least that is what I would do.

Yeah, seriously someone send them a guidebook of how to be platonic friends, do they have no real life friends or what, this is even more suspicious than sharing a room.

They really have no clue how platonic friends behave. Maybe that is what you get when you only ever hang out with other couples.

Even if they are just platonic friends, having a double bedroom each just seems like a very selfish choice when space is tight on a tourbus? They can't justify having a queen bed to themselves while Martyn, Cornelia & crew are all cramped in bunks.
I'm 100% team sharing-a-room-and-overcompensating

Totally agree.
And I'm on the same team as you.

It's not so much the elephant in the room... more "the elephantine bedroom"
Time for some industrial-strength ing. Or my head is going to explode, I shit you not.

I don't mind the bed tweet this time, actually. The first tweets were... whatever, but I'm actually glad they've kind of resolved that 'storyline', if you will. It would have been odd to claim that they fought over beds and then not say who won, if they were going to make an issue out of it. They would still have been better off just not mentioning it at all, but hopefully this'll be the end of it!

phamnotof wrote:

wtfamidoinghere wrote:Well, if we agree that a bus with two bedrooms doesn't exist, at least one of the busses has to be a one-bedroom-and-several-bunks layout.
The other one could be the same or only bunks.

there *are* tour buses with two bedrooms, rare as they are - I'm sorry I don't remember who originally linked this & looking for it'd be hell - http://senatorscoaches.com/#prettyPhoto: if you look at "star coaches", there's bunks, bathrooms, lounge areas and 2 bedrooms, but I have no way of knowing if it could all fit in the bus they've rented.

I can't handle that website. Anyone have a photos/direct link to a bus with two rooms? I'm just curious at this point.

Just watching this unfold is absolutely hilarious. After reading your guys' posts I am just imagining Dan being cramped up in a tiny bunk, not being able to stretch out because he's too tall, lonely and without WiFi or TV, and then there's Phil, stretched out on his queen bed watching Buffy and eating popcorn with some nice AC to keep him cool.

Psh.

You know, I kind of thought we'd have less to talk about during the tour because of lack of content (more than usual) but so far there's been so much happening so I'm just really happy. It's a good time for us Deppyers.

akui wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

well... dedication, I suppose?

I for one don't believe it.
It would just make much more sense to share the room, even if they are just friends. At least that is what I would do.

Yeah, seriously someone send them a guidebook of how to be platonic friends, do they have no real life friends or what, this is even more suspicious than sharing a room.

Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

anjax wrote: Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

My thoughts exactly

anjax wrote:

akui wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

well... dedication, I suppose?

I for one don't believe it.
It would just make much more sense to share the room, even if they are just friends. At least that is what I would do.

Yeah, seriously someone send them a guidebook of how to be platonic friends, do they have no real life friends or what, this is even more suspicious than sharing a room.

Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

What they should do is just not bring it up at all, but hey, that's no fun for us.

jess wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

wtfamidoinghere wrote:Well, if we agree that a bus with two bedrooms doesn't exist, at least one of the busses has to be a one-bedroom-and-several-bunks layout.
The other one could be the same or only bunks.

there *are* tour buses with two bedrooms, rare as they are - I'm sorry I don't remember who originally linked this & looking for it'd be hell - http://senatorscoaches.com/#prettyPhoto: if you look at "star coaches", there's bunks, bathrooms, lounge areas and 2 bedrooms, but I have no way of knowing if it could all fit in the bus they've rented.

I can't handle that website. Anyone have a photos/direct link to a bus with two rooms? I'm just curious at this point.

I know of buses with two full beds but not two bedrooms; or a double decker bus with 2 full beds (but only 1 is in a room, another outside) such as in this link:
http://www.coachservice.com/en/nightlin ... ecker.html

anjax wrote:Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

They can also just stop making a big deal out of things that really aren’t a big deal.
This post sums up my thoughts pretty well:
http://pheelsamazinglynotonfire.tumblr. ... ryone-from

SquishPhan wrote:

anjax wrote:Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

They can also just stop making a big deal out of things that really aren’t a big deal.
This post sums up my thoughts pretty well:
http://pheelsamazinglynotonfire.tumblr. ... ryone-from

Maybe what WE believe isn't that important. Maybe it's more important that possible journalists who research them don't get too suspicious. As long as those don't spend enough time on their research to find out why the phandom doesn't believe it, they're fine.
And making a public statement that suggests they don't share a bed would probably discourage a journalist on the hunt for some secret relationship

sweetmm wrote: I know of buses with two full beds but not two bedrooms; or a double decker bus with 2 full beds (but only 1 is in a room, another outside) such as in this link:
http://www.coachservice.com/en/nightlin ... ecker.html

Thanks. Good to know two beds can actually exist... there's probably a few customs out there with two room configs, but whatevs. I'm returning to my phanagnostic post in the corner.

I agree with others who have said even as platonic friends them sharing a room makes sense. They are both too tall to be comfortable in bunks and a queen bed each while the tour crew (including Martyn and Cornelia) squeeze into bunks seems like overkill. And lets face it they seem perfectly content to be forever in each others company so why not just share with one another?

While I totally get why they'd lie if they are sharing if they are lying I do wonder if they are actually planning on doing a liveshow off the bus at some point and risk being caught out by some fan managing to track down their exact bus by some particular wood panel in background (or something).
And as they are probably only going to do the bare minimum live-shows they have to do they could just do them whenever they stop off at hotels and claim the buses wifi is too poor for younow.

SquishPhan wrote:

anjax wrote:Imagine they are platonic friends. What should they do?? When they behave like normal platonic friends (sharing a bed(room)) everyone says they are a couple. When they don't behave like platonic friends they are hiding that they are a couple/over compensating etc.. whatever they do it is interpreted as them not being friends anyway.

They can also just stop making a big deal out of things that really aren’t a big deal.
This post sums up my thoughts pretty well:
http://pheelsamazinglynotonfire.tumblr. ... ryone-from

hey, that's me!
(I have nothing constructive to add, but wtfamidoinghere makes a good point - like I still say they're attracting attention to the bed situation more than anything, but it might have been a part of their intention?)

[quote="Jeweul"] After reading your guys' posts I am just imagining Dan being cramped up in a tiny bunk, not being able to stretch out because he's too tall, lonely and without WiFi or TV, and then there's Phil, stretched out on his queen bed watching Buffy and eating popcorn with some nice AC to keep him cool.

Psh.

Very amusing imagery, indeed ! Probably ripe for an artistic rendering by someone... "Draw Phil on Tour" ?

Well they really blew the bed thing out of proprotion by bringing attention to it but i think it's because of the japhan bedgate. We literally tracked down the hotel and got the blueprints after seeing the DITL and thinking they shared. Yea, two platonic people could share a bed but we weren't thinking that a mere year ago when we were screaming phan is real cuz they shared a bed in Japan.

I think DP are lab rats that have been conditioned to believe that anything they do together hints at phan being real. I mean I'm guilty of this only because I think they're together but still, if they are trying to hide this relationship they are doing their best at not hinting at ANYTHING!

On the other hand there have been too many slip-ups over the years and too much overcompensation for us to be the crazy ones so who is it?? Anyway if there was no-homo howell there is now no-bed sharing lester

i agree with everyone ion thinking its laughable that tall-ass Dan Howell would sleep on a bunk after platonic bro Philly won a game of rock-paper scissors these boys are so amusing sometimes with their excuses.

I think you guys bring a good point about them trying to brush away journalists but other reasons I can think of for them becoming so anti-phan is:

1) dan is ready to come out and Phil hates labels so distancing them (not gonna work boys) is the best way for Dan coming out without dragging Phil with him
2) preparing for the shitstorm that happens when people catch on to Phil leaving flipside
(channelflip?) and opening a business/talent agency with dan. This really scream longevity which means the boys will stay together for a long time- as lovers/friend/business tycoons

i thought a #platonic arrangement would be to change places every so often? i'm happy to platonically share beds, i think most people would be fine, but not in a not-so-large bed in a bus for months in that sort of situation (+ im only just 6ft, i cant imagine it'd be comfortable). to me it just makes sense to swap now and then, so you don't have one person comfortable and doing pretty well while the other is permanently exhausted and hunched over. sharing is important in a friendship boys

jaej wrote:i thought a #platonic arrangement would be to change places every so often? i'm happy to platonically share beds, i think most people would be fine, but not in a not-so-large bed in a bus for months in that sort of situation (+ im only just 6ft, i cant imagine it'd be comfortable). to me it just makes sense to swap now and then, so you don't have one person comfortable and doing pretty well while the other is permanently exhausted and hunched over. sharing is important in a friendship boys

Cooties though.

kuensukki, so far no people have left flipside but Tom and Dan has definately left channelflip. However personally I don't think it's a big of deal, firstly not many people will even notice that, because many don't even know which management or MCN deppy belongs to, secondly flipside isn't a big interconnected network of people like gleam, deppy leaving it won't be a big enough deal like, say if Jaspar left gleam.

I understand you wtfamidoinghere, but the point is there are definitely more clever way of handling this, for example by not mentioning it at the first place. Not all phandom member are as good at sherlocking as us, and the majority of journalists won't even notice in such mundane detail. And in case someone asked about it, they can just brushed it off jokingly.

Deppy might still have the lingering fear from the bedgate in Japan, but a tour ain't an exotic trip, and people know it. Overcompensating only made it look more suspecious, so you guys shared a bedroom in a trip that you both flew first class to but you have to have individual room now in an expensive and not so spacious tour bus, what's that logic?
sweetmm, it's not tall enough to be a double decker.

speaking of networks, could someone check Phil's? i just did & am getting something really weird, it's "AEs9f6wWiJPjmyW58HpGjA" accoring to the app I use to view them, while everyone else's appear to be regular

akui wrote:kuensukki, so far no people have left flipside but Tom and Dan has definately left channelflip. However personally I don't think it's a big of deal, firstly not many people will even notice that, because many don't even know which management or MCN deppy belongs to, secondly flipside isn't a big interconnected network of people like gleam, deppy leaving it won't be a big enough deal like, say if Jaspar left gleam.

I understand you wtfamidoinghere, but the point is there are definitely more clever way of handling this, for example by not mentioning it at the first place. Not all phandom member are as good at sherlocking as us, and the majority of journalists won't even notice in such mundane detail. And in case someone asked about it, they can just brushed it off jokingly.

Deppy might still have the lingering fear from the bedgate in Japan, but a tour ain't an exotic trip, and people know it. Overcompensating only made it look more suspecious, so you guys shared a bedroom in a trip that you both flew first class to but you have to have individual room now in an expensive and not so spacious tour bus, what's that logic?

sweetmm, it's not tall enough to be a double decker.

I always get those two mixed up And i was referring more to them putting everything under Dan howell Ltd. after Phil's contract is up, than again I might be overthinking the average phandom members interest and knowledge in these things.

I think their bed excuse will work on younger phans/uninvested ones? who will not care to do much research (as we have with busgate ) and just take their word for it

Jeweul wrote: After reading your guys' posts I am just imagining Dan being cramped up in a tiny bunk, not being able to stretch out because he's too tall, lonely and without WiFi or TV, and then there's Phil, stretched out on his queen bed watching Buffy and eating popcorn with some nice AC to keep him cool.

Psh.

Very amusing imagery, indeed ! Probably ripe for an artistic rendering by someone... "Draw Phil on Tour" ?

That would explain the height-difference ing recently(!!!) #SaveDansBack