Dan & Phil Part 55: DOWN IT! DOWN IT! DOWN IT!

[rizzo]

Other things I'm here for: Their reaction to "napping together" as a date option. Let's not pretend that wasn't like... half of 2009, boys.

blessed be this post.

a contribution:

[alittledizzy]

Other things I'm here for: Their reaction to "napping together" as a date option. Let's not pretend that wasn't like... half of 2009, boys.

blessed be this post.

a contribution:

I love that diplomatically worded "and yes" being set apart from the rest of the response, lmfao. Whoops sorry just fell into the 2009 trash bin.

[drearyquery]

What do you guys think of Damien's comment about enjoying something, while also acknowledging the problematic nature or history that this thing might have? Also, Dan's following comment on how he enjoys Kanye's music, while also being aware of how he is problematic as a person. While, I suppose this is a rational approach to life and how to enjoy things, remember,not everything is pure and untainted, there's usually a dark underbelly to absolutely anything, but I'm just surprised that nobody seemed to bring this up. Mostly due to people's recent comments on deppy sort of taking the quiet approach to whatever their youtube peers are doing, in this case pewdiepie. It felt like Dan's comment in particular was a bit dismissive, idk, or maybe he was right and that you should be allowed to draw a line between appreciation, while also being critical? What is everybody else's thoughts on this topic?

I actually thought Dan's outlook here was less dismissive than Phil's. Dan's argument seemed to be that if you enjoy the good in something you also need to acknowledge the bad, while Phil's response was to just take the good - which I interpreted to be finished with an unspoken "And pretend the bad doesn't even exist." It seems like a very Phil way to go about things, but also the exact kind that would lead Phil to still be chums with someone like Shawna or to never unfollow Felix.

Yeah... their statements here did not make me optimistic about any disregard to Felix. However I actually took Phil's statement the opposite way. I heard "just take the good" as in "anything that has serious bad things don't engage" and only find support creators/creations that are all good (or realistically mostly good). So instead of supporting Kanye spend that energy supporting a non problematic creator. Thinking back this doesn't make as much since as dizzy's interpretation and I'm probably not understanding very well but who knows

In general I love the discussion about how much can we seperate problematic creators and their creations. We actually had a unit on this in my school. So I'm really interested to hear other's thoughts

[alittledizzy]

Happy thee years of DAPG aka the best thing that happened to the phandom

Considering today's anniversary I'm glad I enjoyed this video so much. I kept zoning out of the last one but with this one I was pretty engaged all the way through, mostly because of the top notch bants. And they seemed very happy and smiley

- Please let that collar loose more often.
- Depz never go to sleep while mad at each other is what I got from that.
- Dan likes his men with well manicured lawns.
- We already knew Dan goes in full emo teen mode whenever Phil leaves but I still like hearing about it.
- Japanese cuddle cafe's huh.
- Concept: Dan and Phil doing a 1000 piece puzzle. And filming it.
- Phil calling Dan out for ruining his illuminati editing moment.
- Dan teases Phil for his coffee addiction.
- Bosom discourse.
- lmao Dan starting to talk about the movies they watch, catching himself and cutting himself off.
- Phil sweet tooth strikes again as Dan drags his afternoon tea habits.
- Debutante discourse results in DE BOOTY.
- "You say a lot of things that don't make sense" he says fondly.
- The G note is how Phil tortures Dan on a merciful day. He only whips out the Hello Internet on special days.
- Depz go on regular high tea dates like the rich bastards they are.
- I was still giggling at Dan's impression of Damien when Phil dropped that "and I'd like to pull it off you" pickup line and I choked on my own breath.
- Oh for fucks sake, fucking Kanye again.
- Chucking craft glitter into soap is probably not how Lush does it Dan.
- The one time Phil is being a little crude and his dating sim doesn't like it :')
- Dan hates sunflowers because he doesn't like things taller than him basically.
- "Hopefully he doesn't engage in the Naruto fanfiction." Dan has a trauma.
- AUBERSPLOSION

If the next installments are as fun as this one I'll end up genuinely loving this series

I'm taking this out from under the cut because it's really hitting all the highlights and I don't want people to miss it.

Question: what exactly is a cuddle cafe? Do you go to cuddle employees? Or do you go there with someone you want to cuddle?

What do you guys think of Damien's comment about enjoying something, while also acknowledging the problematic nature or history that this thing might have? Also, Dan's following comment on how he enjoys Kanye's music, while also being aware of how he is problematic as a person. While, I suppose this is a rational approach to life and how to enjoy things, remember,not everything is pure and untainted, there's usually a dark underbelly to absolutely anything, but I'm just surprised that nobody seemed to bring this up. Mostly due to people's recent comments on deppy sort of taking the quiet approach to whatever their youtube peers are doing, in this case pewdiepie. It felt like Dan's comment in particular was a bit dismissive, idk, or maybe he was right and that you should be allowed to draw a line between appreciation, while also being critical? What is everybody else's thoughts on this topic?

I actually thought Dan's outlook here was less dismissive than Phil's. Dan's argument seemed to be that if you enjoy the good in something you also need to acknowledge the bad, while Phil's response was to just take the good - which I interpreted to be finished with an unspoken "And pretend the bad doesn't even exist." It seems like a very Phil way to go about things, but also the exact kind that would lead Phil to still be chums with someone like Shawna or to never unfollow Felix.

Yeah... their statements here did not make me optimistic about any disregard to Felix. However I actually took Phil's statement the opposite way. I heard "just take the good" as in "anything that has serious bad things don't engage" and only find support creators/creations that are all good (or realistically mostly good). So instead of supporting Kanye spend that energy supporting a non problematic creator. Thinking back this doesn't make as much since as dizzy's interpretation and I'm probably not understanding very well but who knows

In general I love the discussion about how much can we seperate problematic creators and their creations. We actually had a unit on this in my school. So I'm really interested to hear other's thoughts

I really like that interpretation of Phil's comment more. I'm not sure I believe that's what I meant, but I definitely see how it can be taken both ways - damnit, Phil, why so vague.

Do we actually know of anyone Phil likes/supports that's quite as... decidedly problematic? (Besides Shawna, which to be fair for him, he didn't even RT the second part of her video and hasn't really spoken with her since and for all we know never will again.)

[starwillow]

Do we actually know of anyone Phil likes/supports that's quite as... decidedly problematic? (Besides Shawna, which to be fair for him, he didn't even RT the second part of her video and hasn't really spoken with her since and for all we know never will again.)

Joss Whedon

[moaninglisa]

Question: what exactly is a cuddle cafe? Do you go to cuddle employees? Or do you go there with someone you want to cuddle?

Well...
https://japantoday.com/category/feature ... 00-an-hour

[alch]

Question: what exactly is a cuddle cafe? Do you go to cuddle employees? Or do you go there with someone you want to cuddle?

Apparently you go there to cuddle (and sleep with non-sexually) a random pretty girl

[alittledizzy]

Question: what exactly is a cuddle cafe? Do you go to cuddle employees? Or do you go there with someone you want to cuddle?

Well...
https://japantoday.com/category/feature ... 00-an-hour

lmfao I had a feeling that was it. I think that might account for that Look that Dan gave Phil when Phil mentioned it.

[dae]

Wow! not to much discussion on this new video that's surprising personally I loved it I've become extremely fond of this series so far I definitely loved phils "never go to bed on an argument that's my life motto" mention it gave a nice inside idea of what deppys arguments are like (I'd like to think that they probably talk things out a lot) I admit I didn't like Damien at first but he actually seems very cool I'm still on board the mat train though as for the whole " take the good with the bad or just take the good" I have to take dans side on this it actually reminded me of something from dans first ever LIVESHOW in which he talked about he word yolo and how people had made it a cringy thing but it was still a good motto to live by and basically not to let the bad ruin the good I really like that mindset as for "just take the good" I interpreted it as both staying away from all bad things and ignoring the bad personally I think you have to acknowledge everything going on which is why I agree with Dan but to each their own I guess I get it though staying away from any bad things can be good for people who don't like conflict anyway I'm waffling but yeah good video 8/10 also I'm excited for possible Collab video on Thursday!

[pilotlight]

I'm still surprised that I like this series so much because there's so much dialogue, and I wasn't really a fan of watching them play other text-heavy games. But I really enjoy it, and it didn't even feel like a 30+ minute video. Damien was a pleasant surprise too. The way he talks is still kinda cringe but he seems way more interesting than I expected. Initially I rooted for Mat, but I might have been swayed.

I wanna rewatch it again tomorrow when I'm more awake, because they kept relating the scenarios back to themselves and I'm sure I didn't catch everything the first time around.

[Susanisnotafish]

I hoped today's gaming vid would be DD and I was not disappointed! I think Phil was really getting into his voice acting toward the end. Dan's voices, while distinctive, can seem pretty sarcastic which detracts from some of the more serious moments imo. They both looked gorgeous! I love how Dan laughs off his mispronunciations and doesn't get defensive. I like how the game knew more about high tea than actual British people! Phil gave Dan such a fond look up and down at one point. He reminded me of Bambi! Will that man ever not have the ability to look youthful and innocent? He did read "dumbass" and "hell" out in this vid. Can't say I would mind hearing him read or say "fuck" tho. Maybe in some future livestream. Can you edit them before they're saved tho?

Re: Dan and Phil as role models

I think people choose their role models based on selection criteria personal to them. I think people are more likely to change role models than change themselves to match the role model. Maybe I just wasn't easily influenced. I don't think people who are chosen as role models need to live their lives any differently.

While I tolerate or enjoy pretty much every topic discussed here, I appreciate those with courage to respectfully voice opinions on what they are not comfortable with and/or don't enjoy. It makes me think, and that is something I like about IDB!

[autumnhearth]

Other things I'm here for: Their reaction to "napping together" as a date option. Let's not pretend that wasn't like... half of 2009, boys.

:sleepypuppy: :sleepypuppy:

blessed be this post. :happytears:

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2009 phan napping dates confirmed. I mean, that's immediately what I thought of as well.

I haven't watched the whole video as I had to babysit my nephew quite late. But what I did see was cute. Will watch the whole thing tomorrow. Goodnight IDB.

[corgisocks]

What do you guys think of Damien's comment about enjoying something, while also acknowledging the problematic nature or history that this thing might have? Also, Dan's following comment on how he enjoys Kanye's music, while also being aware of how he is problematic as a person. While, I suppose this is a rational approach to life and how to enjoy things, remember,not everything is pure and untainted, there's usually a dark underbelly to absolutely anything, but I'm just surprised that nobody seemed to bring this up. Mostly due to people's recent comments on deppy sort of taking the quiet approach to whatever their youtube peers are doing, in this case pewdiepie. It felt like Dan's comment in particular was a bit dismissive, idk, or maybe he was right and that you should be allowed to draw a line between appreciation, while also being critical? What is everybody else's thoughts on this topic?

(hey guys; this is my first post on here! c:

i apologise in advance if anything i will go on to say is problematic as that was definitely not my intent)

- I agree with Dan here, but elaboration on this would sound kind of redundant ^^"

- Did Dan have to explicitly say something about the PewDiePie incident? People watch DAPG for entertainment, not to be educated; we don't need to hear his opinions on the matter, and I'm kind of glad we didn't.
I also wonder whether people would've thought his comment was dismissive if he'd said something about a person being problematic making it so others shouldn't enjoy them... (which is just as dismissive in the opposite way)

- Also, (i apologise; this is kind of irrelevant) people are sensitive to certain things due to experiences that not everyone can/will have, so if someone wasn't immediately disgusted by something that could be seen as offensive, it's not because they're a bad person. Not everyone's first reaction to things can be empathic; similarly, people who'll be emotionally impacted by the same statement will almost definitely have a visceral reaction to it above anything else/without acknowledging other aspects of it. This doesn't excuse anything either side has done, but instead of expressing distaste for the people we're opposed to, we should be helping them understand why certain perspectives of the situation are important here (AND why certain people think they way they do so that we can cater our arguments to them). No one will learn much from the situation otherwise (even when they may need to); instead, it'll just create more tension (this was stated from experience)


I saw Phil's comment as adding on to Dan's (emphasising that one should be able to enjoy whatever they'd like and as such focusing on the positive part; most things they say on the gaming channel are impromptu so you can't really look at them as individual statements or just look at superficial meanings) and also as a sarcastic way of criticising Dan's taste in music. It was banter; it could've had deeper meanings (humor/reference-wise, for example), but probably not the ones we're looking for


sorry about this i probably sounded super pretentious but really i don't even know whether this was relevant to the discussion and seeing as no one else i know has said any of this i'm probably wrong ^^"

[scientia]

At around 8:26 Phil says Damien's in his "maybe pile" and wow yeah, completely regardless of D&P's relationship status I love the idea of them discussing each other's online dating prospects. I could easily see each of them vetting the other's dates out against completely irrational standards!

[LtrllySusan]

(Late to the party) I am back on the Daddy train! ... that sounded weird.
How many episodes do they roughly have left? (Feel free to answer in a spoiler)

[nephilimcat]

I'm actually hooked now! This is my favourite DD episode so far Damien makes me swoon and I'm not even a romantic person. But I do appreciate the Victorian Era, I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with it but if I had to pick my favourite era, that would definitely be it. I wanted them to pick Mat before but now I'm intrigued and want them to continue dating Damien. Even though I don't know if he and ... Dilddy ... would be that good together. Realistically, Mat seems like the person for ... Dilddy ... But the only stuff I know about this game is what I've seen them play so far and I prefer it that way. I think I might not enjoy it that much if I knew the game better.


[Offtopic]I just discovered all the amazing new emojiis and new descriptions for old ones! I especially love the and and . You guys are amazing [/Offtopic]

[felucca]

I:
- loved the episode, love the series.
- think Dan and Phil play through series like this way. too. slowly.
- don't think I'll watch another episode until there are a few more.
- am considering watching another youtuber in the meantime.

Anybody got a youtuber to recommend who made a good playthrough of Dream Daddy?

[lurker]

(Late to the party) I am back on the Daddy train! ... that sounded weird.
How many episodes do they roughly have left? (Feel free to answer in a spoiler)

not sure if this is really spoiler-y but for safety:

apparently you can date each of the dads twice before making a decision, and then going on a third date with one of them makes you end up with that dad. that makes a total of 15 dates and 14 episodes left to go if they continue with that speed and do a complete playthrough. judging by their discussion before they picked damien for their first date, it seems more likely atm hat they'll only date the dads on their "maybe-pile" (for example they said that they wouldn't date joseph, right?). if they only end up checking out mat and hugo, there'll be four to six episodes left.

[MaggieW]

Other things I'm here for: Their reaction to "napping together" as a date option. Let's not pretend that wasn't like... half of 2009, boys.

blessed be this post.

a contribution:

adding



and

This is so cute. I can't stop thinking of dan talking about preferring to be the big spoon:


Phil little spoon confirmed?

[annabanana]

They are definitely somewhere warm!

[ultraviolet]

(Late to the party) I am back on the Daddy train! ... that sounded weird.
How many episodes do they roughly have left? (Feel free to answer in a spoiler)

not sure if this is really spoiler-y but for safety:

apparently you can date each of the dads twice before making a decision, and then going on a third date with one of them makes you end up with that dad. that makes a total of 15 dates and 14 episodes left to go if they continue with that speed and do a complete playthrough. judging by their discussion before they picked damien for their first date, it seems more likely atm hat they'll only date the dads on their "maybe-pile" (for example they said that they wouldn't date joseph, right?). if they only end up checking out mat and hugo, there'll be four to six episodes left.

Yeah, it really depends on how they choose to play the game. As lurker mentioned, you can date each dad up to 2 times before going on a 3rd date and locking into your ending with that Dad. I can see Dan & Phil doing this, but I can't really see them doing ALL the dads, because besides the date portions, it can get repetitive.

There's also an importance to S-ranking and doing things in a particular order (like dialogue choices) in some routes in order to guarantee the best ending. I am not sure Dan and Phil will pick up on this or not, but I can see them going back to do this once/if they get a meh ending (probably in a sped up portion at least.) IDK actually if A-ranking a first date ruins the chance of the best ending, so we'll see how it goes with Damien.

[captainspacecoat]

As usual, I'm astoundingly late to the party, but that was by far the best DD vid in the series yet! I think it's a combination of dnp warming up to the game as well as the game itself getting more interesting - it feels like the gameplay is actually getting somewhere now, which made it all the more enjoyable to me. I love every time they relate things back to themselves, I loved how Phil was going all in with the suggestive comments, and I'm genuinely intrigued by Damien. I don't have anything particularly profound to say about it, but it was my fave gaming vid they've uploaded in a while I think. Also Dan is correct, Grave of the Fireflies is SUCH a harrowing movie, it scarred me for life.

In other news, I'm not surprised that they don't actually seem to be in Ireland. I hope they had fun snorkelling though and that they are having a super relaxing time

[flarequake]

Phil's tweet is so cute. I love how often he uses the peach emoji or the story involves his butt. It has adventures even in snorkelling.

[alittledizzy]

Wirrow tweeted about hitting his head on an umbrella. So are we thinking tropical then? Or somewhere rainy + where you can snorkel?

[DatCog]

Wirrow tweeted about hitting his head on an umbrella. So are we thinking tropical then? Or somewhere rainy + where you can snorkel?

I'd like to think Mediterranean at least! September is a great time to go - still lovely weather but all the schools are back so much less chance of being bothered by fans.

Last night's Dream Daddy was so enjoyable (+1 for Phil in that shirt ) - I actually nodded off in the last one a few times so wasn't particularly looking forward to episode 3 but I was engaged right from the start and could happily have watched it for another half hour at least.