Well, watching the docu has convinced me to watch the professional tatinof show. I'm excited to be able to see their expressions and just see everything up close.
Re: the fanfiction part:
It was interesting to me that they kinda haru'd the fanfiction part of the show in the docu. Almost...almost as if to convey "yeah, that ended up looking dickish and baity, but we wrote it in 2014 and by time we got feedback on it, the show was set in stone. But yeah. Not proud of that." I honestly think that they thought the fanfiction segment would get lots of praise and evoke phangirl pants creaming, when in reality it induced at best eye-rolling and at worse actual feelings of upset and shipbaiting and "you're living a huge lie and selling it to me" and lots of bad stuff. Well done deppy!
Something people haven't brought up: potential suicide trigger warning: Dan mentioned that he loves it when people tell him that they were going through a hard time and their videos helped them. This was after at least one fan said they "saved her life." I have a huge problem with this. Countless people have told dan and phil that they're only alive because of them. That they were going to kill themselves and then decided not to because of Dan and Phil. I know that with telling them that you have good intentions, but imagine the immense pressure that puts on them to remain the same. The pressure that puts on them to never leave Youtube, and finally, the immense pressure that puts on them to never break up. I mean, they know as well as we do that the phandom would shrink by half if they were to break up/go separate ways, but now they have the added threat of some fans actually killing themselves if that happens. And that's just not pressure I'm comfortable with dan and phil having on them. Ever. But there's nothing I can do to stop people from saying that, and Dan is encouraging it, but he'd also kinda look like a dick if he didnt mention it. Out of obligation, he has to say that it's good to hear. But I can't imagine how that'd be good to hear. People don't like hearing that their best friend is only there because of them. It's unsettling. I've had people tell me that if I kill myself, they'll kill themselves. I've had people ask me to kill myself at the same time that they kill themselves. I'm sure that after reading that, you're like "woah, too far." Well what the fuck do you think dan and phil feel when they hear it over and over and over and over again? "Wow, hundreds of people havent killed themselves because of me...what if i change? what if i somehow fuck up?" Honestly this ties into my whole thing about they're keeping the ambiguity of phan in order to keep us around. If something major changes, they risk losing some of us.
Anyway, my next question is, is Chai Cameron single, to which sweetmm informed me he's never been seen with a girl, to which I asked, oh, is he a celebrity? Turns out he's a youtuber. Commence Opteration Chai Trash #1. I'm gonna Dan the fuck outta him. Stalker city. Until he loves me. Okay probably not, I'm too busy for that shit, but that'd be fucking nice. It was so nice to see a guy talking about dan and phil and saying theyre great, bonus hes hot...so...
#busgate. oooooooh #busgate. I'd like to start off by saying, I still believe. Hell, I was there for 2012. I really don't think it gets any worse than that. And I've come out of it alive. But that being said, if anything like it happens again, I'm fucking out. Just like dizzy said. If they make it super clear that theyre not dating in the future, I'm actually leaving. Because exploiting dedicated viewers, who have invested years in you, denying them of the truth, knowing they believe a lie, and cashing in on it...that's fucking vile. And I'm not going to jump to that conclusion because as Dizzy said, they're closeted. Someone brought up that they couldve been closeted to the entire crew. Which would be sad, yes, but to be honest, i wouldn't put it past them. Unless every damn crew member signed an agreement, theyd be risking a crew member leaking it, either out of ignorance, or just thinking the world should know, i don't know, any reason for leaking, and honestly I feel like the possibility of one out of however many crew members they had spilling the beans, I wouldn't put it past them to not come out to the crew. Anyway, that doesn't explain why Dan didn't fucking know how to get out of the bunk, and why his hair was straight, and he was already clearly awake, and why he hasn't complained about the bunk, why he hasnt been seriously injured by said bunk, etc. It's possible they shared the bed and didn't come out the crew. Like people said, best friends can sleep in the same bed, no problemo. Maybe they did alternate, which honestly I think they would've said they did if they had thought of it. Oh well. We still have a lot of unanswered questions. When I first saw the rock paper scissors thing, I got deeply upset, I was really mad. I had to take a break. I just felt hurt. This is not what we deserve. They know that phan is a huge part of why they're famous. So doing this to us is just cruel. But like people said, they prefaced it with the tweet long ago, and we shouldn't have expected anything else. At first I saw it as a phan denial, but the more I think about it...they had to choose between "yes we sleep in the same bed" which leans waaay more toward a phan confirmation than not, or saying they slept in separate beds, which says less about their relationship status but still leans on the no phano side. I feel like they almost didn't think of not even addressing the issue. That obviously would've been a good way to go. I'm going to convince myself that they didn't think of that, because I feel like going above and beyond to prove they didnt sleep together is really rude of them. okay, I think that concludes my rant.
I agree that the docu is too short. I was pretty upset when I heard the length earlier today. Dan said feature film length in the liveshow. wtf man...oh well. i just feel like they filmed so much they really couldve done a lot more with the docu. But oh well.
I did cry at the end, because damn, they've come a long way.
Kind of regretting that we didn't go the drinking game route, though.
(btw how the hell do u upload an image from your saved folder here? i had to make an account in imgur and flickr in order to get a link for it)
i had a cringe attack™
" like I said something that staged I'm always going to be over anyways, even if I do kind of accept the #nophano at the moment (give me a few days I'll be believing trash again, it always happens, lol)
How can they manage to make such precious old men?!