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madmadmad wrote:I've also wondered about this. I don't particularly like her or dislike her (she seems like a very normal human being) so I'm somewhat confused by this too. I've heard people say that she's really boring, but is it more to it than that? I feel like maybe some people dislike her for baiting viewers with D&P? Somehow I really doubt people here dislike her because she is a threat to "phan" though. In that case wouldn't Louise technically be more of a threat because she's a lot more flirty than Cat and she seems to have chemistry with Dan?

I mean, yeah, boring I could see, but that should hardly equate with hate? At least imo. And re: viewer baiting - who doesn't? And it seems rather hyporitical to enjoy the content she provices us with only to judge her for putting it out there. Also, Deppy seem really selective about who they collab with and stuff, and they seem really fine with her thumbnailing them up, so that should be what matters? Most people who use them for views don't have their consent, she does. But if that's it, at least it'd make *some* sense...
And yeah, right, Loiuse! Louise could be argued to clickbait them as well & everyone adores her. And is definitely a more flirty person in general. So the only answer I could come up with is that Louise was married & despite getting a divorce in 2014, we didn't learn about that until a year after & she's already in a relationship again.
/and I didn't mean people just on here necessarily, for the record/
But anyway, if there isn't some big reason I'm missing, then idk, there's not going to be a consensus between the people who feel that way, anyway, it'll be all of the above and more.
I just hope she vlogged yesteday. Bait the fuck out of me for all I care, I just want a vlog. (Hopefully, she goes to a TATINOF show, too, there's a vlog in the making as well, and if anyone's going to show us backstage, it's not gonna be D&P.)
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Kathrynxjane wrote:I don't like her videos and there is just something about her that puts me off her videos. Nothing to do with D & P at all. I am glad they have a good friend.

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Trigger Warning :

There is definitely more to her story. I don't know much about it all but at the time when the Youtube Rape allegations came out (specifically Luke). Things she said made it sound like she was "a rape apologist" and was very naive about the whole thing. Also I think there was some things about Dogs but I don't know a lot about her and these are just things I have read from the old GG threads. Maybe someone else has more information for you.

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Oh okay, thank you! I still have my feelings about that about who people are less likely give the benefit of the dout/forgive, but I'm glad to have this info.

[offtopic]Not entirely on topic here, but does anyone know how to embed a Tumblr post? This is because I want to embed something relevant. [/offtopic]

phamnotof wrote:Can I ask a semi-random question? I'm gonna try to word it in a judgement-free way, though that's me surpressing my nature quite a bit.
Anyway, why do so many people in the phandom seem to hate Cat? I'll admit I'm mostly familiar with her through her Phan vlogs, I've seen a few of her videos without them and they're standard YT vlogs, nothing to write home about but also not offensive. I genuinely love her for what she provides us with & for how much she both seems to care for D&P and is cared for by them, but that's the extent of my giving a fuck. So why is she so much more hated by people than say, Louise? Is it just being a single attractive female that D&P like to spend time with? Or is there more to the story?

The thing people use now is that she is a ‘rape apologist’ or something like that, but people have been hating on her long before that, so I feel like people just use that as an excuse now. And yes I do believe that people view her as a threat to Phan.
Cat has talked about those rumors here:
http://catrific.tumblr.com/post/1331447 ... y-this-but
http://catrific.tumblr.com/post/1331456 ... g-the-rape

phamnotof wrote:Can I ask a semi-random question? I'm gonna try to word it in a judgement-free way, though that's me surpressing my nature quite a bit.
Anyway, why do so many people in the phandom seem to hate Cat? I'll admit I'm mostly familiar with her through her Phan vlogs, I've seen a few of her videos without them and they're standard YT vlogs, nothing to write home about but also not offensive. I genuinely love her for what she provides us with & for how much she both seems to care for D&P and is cared for by them, but that's the extent of my giving a fuck. So why is she so much more hated by people than say, Louise? Is it just being a single attractive female that D&P like to spend time with? Or is there more to the story?

I'm indifferent towards her, the only time I watch her is for Deppy.
I heard that she was a bad pet owner and is still friends with people like Luke, still from what I understood people don't like her because she is regarded as boring and the reason she is still able to live with youtube is because of the right friends, not only deppy but also joey and ingrid.

SquishPhan wrote:The thing people use now is that she is a ‘rape apologist’ or something like that, but people have been hating on her long before that, so I feel like people just use that as an excuse now. And yes I do believe that people view her as a threat to Phan.
Cat has talked about those rumors here:
http://catrific.tumblr.com/post/1331447 ... y-this-but
http://catrific.tumblr.com/post/1331456 ... g-the-rape

Trigger Warning :

rape

thank you! I'm inclined to agree with you, but obviously everyone has their own story and there's going to be a lot of valid feelings regarding this as it's a really sensitive subject. But yeah, I'm sure that if you dug deep enough, you could find this about most people D&P hang out with - hell, PewdiePie made a video called Youtube Drama that could easily be read in as trying to shut down victims' voices on the internet just the other week - but I think that women are held to different standards in general & there are definitely going to be people out there just looking for reasons to hate Cat, but again, not pointing at anyone, it's all rather messy.

the cat hated started since the first vlog they did on dini, since dan talked to her more than phil. there definitely are reasons to dislike her, but most people look for excuses imo. if those genuine issues didn't exist, they'd still find some reason to say they disliked her

Nothing but apathy towards Cat, tbh. Unless she's either with , or unless she has passed whatever bug she had this weekend onto them. In which case I will want to murder all three of them for being so stupid!

[offtopic]I haven't got the time to condemn people who've said/acted questionably on certain topics. There's only a certain number of hours in any one day. There are those who i do give very big fucks about, Cat was never really on my radar though, as said above, se never is, unless she's with [/offtopic]

IckleMissMayhem wrote:Nothing but apathy towards Cat, tbh. Unless she's either with , or unless she has passed whatever bug she had this weekend onto them. In which case I will want to murder all three of them for being so stupid!

Same! They really need to stay healthy right now, so if Cat was still sick when they hang out they need some good ass kicking.

SquishPhan wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:Nothing but apathy towards Cat, tbh. Unless she's either with , or unless she has passed whatever bug she had this weekend onto them. In which case I will want to murder all three of them for being so stupid!

Same! They really need to stay healthy right now, so if Cat was still sick when they hang out they need some good ass kicking.

Since they seem to be self-managing this tour, there's not really anyone to give them one, apart from each other, but SAME!!!
Can't quite believe Phil's gone from "I've been seeking advice from Carrie/"a friend" about looking after my/our voices on tour" to "yup, let's hang out with someone with strep, self-diagnosed or otherwise."

Omg that wasn't just a photo op, Dan actually owns that hat and wears it in public. What a world.
edit: I mean, he pulls it off, it's just funny since so many comments were like 'lol guys he was just doing it for the pic'.

fancybum wrote:

Omg that wasn't just a photo op, Dan actually owns that hat and wears it in public. What a world.

I'm for Dan in that hat. Rock that awkward girl hat, Danny-boy!
No but really, he rocks it, even if he wears it "ironically" and it's a big middle finger to gender roles basicaly. Or gendering clothes, to be specific.

fancybum wrote:

Omg that wasn't just a photo op, Dan actually owns that hat and wears it in public. What a world.
edit: I mean, he pulls it off, it's just funny since so many comments were like 'lol guys he was just doing it for the pic'.

They are looking good, and Dan is rocking that cap. I love that he actually bought it and is actively wearing it. You go Dan.

SquishPhan wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Omg that wasn't just a photo op, Dan actually owns that hat and wears it in public. What a world.
edit: I mean, he pulls it off, it's just funny since so many comments were like 'lol guys he was just doing it for the pic'.

They are looking good, and Dan is rocking that cap. I love that he actually bought it and is actively wearing it. You go Dan.

PolarFox wrote:

fancybum wrote:

Omg that wasn't just a photo op, Dan actually owns that hat and wears it in public. What a world.

I'm for Dan in that hat. Rock that awkward girl hat, Danny-boy!
No but really, he rocks it, even if he wears it "ironically" and it's a big middle finger to gender roles basicaly. Or gendering clothes, to be specific.

These!
Dan in that girly gatorland glam hat Also Phil in those glasses okay bye!

WTF....



People like this make me feel really uncomfortable, to say the least...I highly doubt either of them would like a secret picture to be taken, and even less with that tongue thing.

Edit: FUNFACT. It seems that the girl on the left is a well-known Youtuber, Hayley Williams, with more than 1M subscribers

I'm sooo glad that Dan seems to have given up on the whole "I only wear black" thing (I think he just kept it up for so long for his whole "relatable" schtick). He looks so good in light colors, and he's totally rocking the cap!

EDIT: Holy crap that photo of those girls is so creepy and cringy

fancybum wrote:

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amazing, he pulls it off so well. damn you and your androgynous good looks daniel

add me to the list of the people loving Dan in that hat

[offtopic]I'm already 2 threads behind to react to anything, mostly have time only to read/skim though especially at times when thread moves too quickly cause I guess damn Dan honestly managed to get me back into anime and manga and doujinshi world after years so I'm reliving highlights of past again (and even realized one started publishing again in 2014 so yeah never thought I end back ) But I'm not very good at analyzing anyway and enjoy much more reading so yeah to all for all the theories - my mind wouldn't even stop at thing like a necklace tangle. you are all awesome [/offtopic]

Someone said my thoughts about the nail polish thing

http://illmakeuhowell.tumblr.com/post/1 ... lish-thing

Though I saw all of your guys posts about how Dan can handle it, and just not wear it if he doesn't want to, and I agree. I still feel as though people are pressuring him in a way that makes me feel uncomfortable.

Ticia wrote:WTF....

People like this make me feel really uncomfortable, to say the least...I highly doubt either of them would like a secret picture to be taken, and even less with that tongue thing.

Edit: FUNFACT. It seems that the girl on the left is a well-known Youtuber, Hayley Williams, with more than 1M subscribers

So creepy and the fact that one of them is a popular youtuber herself just makes it worse.
When I see this kind of behavior from their colleagues I really can't fault for mostly sticking together, and only hanging out with a select few.
It’s just so unprofessional.

Trigger Warning :

Sexual Harassment

I'm not trying to overreact, but what those girls did is straight up sexual harassment. It's stuff like this (not to mention that time a few years back when a girl LICKED Phil's face) that make me wonder why people still want to be famous Youtubers and public figures when their comfort and safety can be so easily threatened.

Tumblr has just reminded me that Phil once tried to convince everybody that his butt tweeted the word 'ass' on New Years Eve.

Idk, it just felt like a thing to mention.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

Hope he doesn't get motion sickness.

phamnotof wrote:Tumblr has just reminded me that Phil once tried to convince everybody that his butt tweeted the word 'ass' on New Years Eve.

Idk, it just felt like a thing to mention.

I deeply appreciate the mention.

ASs, no less!

Also, the image of Dan wearing his gator girls bling hat makes me feel really warm and happy; I can't quite explain why.

spaceguitar wrote:Someone said my thoughts about the nail polish thing

http://illmakeuhowell.tumblr.com/post/1 ... lish-thing

Though I saw all of your guys posts about how Dan can handle it, and just not wear it if he doesn't want to, and I agree. I still feel as though people are pressuring him in a way that makes me feel uncomfortable.

the weirdest thing about the nail polish thing to me is that those girls must know dan is rich and can buy nail polish if he wants...... clearly they just wanted a reaction out of him like if he's not wearing nail polish it's bc he doesn't want to.. not bc he needs fans to prod him in the right direction like dressing up a doll

even outside of the creepy headcanon forcing i remember d&p saying multiple times that they can't accept gifts this tour? those nail polishes either ended up with cat or in the bin tbh, unless it's different bc it's playlist.