Philena wrote:100% public info, legal, easily searchable. Perhaps we could put it behind a spoiler next time so those who don't want to see can't? You know, choose your own ethics
Sometimes discussing things in a reasonable manner makes more sense than throwing a fit. Especially when you are new.
How are other people's finances yours to discuss? rhetorical question btw. Disagreeing with this isn't throwing a fit, but I'll stop after this post if that makes yall feel better.
@lilMango perhaps you're confusing "entitlement" with some other term? Self-righteousness, maybe? You could also say I'm stuck on a moral high ground? But I don't feel entitled to know and search how much dnp's cash in, I can live without that info just fine. I do think this was unnecessary and disrespectful, just because it's public records and technically legal that doesn't make it right. Nuances, yknow. But I'm seeing what's right doesn't outweigh anything here, so sorry I care wow how rude of me to question something. I'll stop embarrassing myself when I start feeling embarrassed, from where I'm standing that's not the case atm. Looking away or changing the subject won't erase what already happened and won't make your actions and attitudes about it any more acceptable/justifiable/excusable, btw.
Ok yall do continue your thing, don't mind me
I was trying to diplomatically help you sort your argument out. Ethics are not black and white, except, apparently, in your case. You took your stand, and since it is near impossible to influence the resistant, I think we're done here.
Lurktacularr wrote:
Sorry to feed the troll but...
I'd also like to point out that me and Kathrynxjane are both accountants and fully aware of what's private, public and sensitive. Frankly everyone here seems to be too, regardless of their profession, because we've all got brains in our heads. We've done nothing wrong, morally or otherwise posting this information.
I'd like to point out to you that we've not given you their personal bank balances. Those are their companies' balances. Yes, they may be the sole directors of their two main companies and so it would seem one and the same, but its not. They'll have business expenses (such as the accountants who filed that info) to pay from these, other monies flowing in from debtors (spons etc) and other reconciling items.
Yes, they give an indication as to how well those companies are doing and hence how well deppy are doing, but that's all it is - an indication. Are you gonna lose your shit if we work out how many tickets they've sold for tatinof x average ticket price and guess at their income on that? Where are you drawing the line here?
'This is all wrong and you know it' - no, you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. And you certainly don't get to decide what all of us feel towards it.
And actually, the fact that its public info in fact DOES give us the right to post it where we wish and do whatever we please with it. I'd like to know what you think gives /you/ the right to police the forum.
danisnotonphil I really hope you're all over twitter and tumblr telling everybody who says something you disagree with how wrong they are and how they know it because you said so, why limit your gift to just this forum as if you're doing everybody here a favour? This isn't a hivemind, people disagree often (just earlier the 'Dan doesn't deserve X subs' generated some mostly CIVIL back and forth discussion) so stop addressing us like a singular naughty child. How about actually joining in/starting discussions rather than taking a drive-by shit in written form every time you want to climb up on your high horse. Over public information. PUBLIC. Readily available. To the public. But do you think Dan deserves 6M subs? The people need to know!
fancybum wrote:How about actually joining in/starting discussions rather than taking a drive-by shit in written form every time you want to climb up on your high horse
drive-by shit. dead.
I wonder how biology can explain the physical pain you feel in your chest when all you want to do is talk shit on IDB
fancybum wrote:How about actually joining in/starting discussions rather than taking a drive-by shit in written form every time you want to climb up on your high horse
fancybum wrote:
danisnotonphil I really hope you're all over twitter and tumblr telling everybody who says something you disagree with how wrong they are and how they know it because you said so, why limit your gift to just this forum as if you're doing everybody here a favour? This isn't a hivemind, people disagree often (just earlier the 'Dan doesn't deserve X subs' generated some mostly CIVIL back and forth discussion) so stop addressing us like a singular naughty child. How about actually joining in/starting discussions rather than taking a drive-by shit in written form every time you want to climb up on your high horse. Over public information. PUBLIC. Readily available. To the public. But do you think Dan deserves 6M subs? The people need to know!
I got:
Alittledizzy
Writing your thoughts out is how you get your point across, and you always have great points to counter someone. You're very passionate about your opinions, but you're respectful of others as well.
^.^
danisnotonphil I know you must be feeling a little attacked right now, you shouldn't feel attacked, please try not to feel bad, but at the same time flying into a forum as a newbie and criticizing the way everything is done is not the way to go about things. But I am sure you have learnt your lesson now. I look forward to reading your post about whether Dan deserves 6 millions subs or not ^.^
Lurktacularr wrote:
Sorry to feed the troll but...
I'd also like to point out that me and Kathrynxjane are both accountants and fully aware of what's private, public and sensitive. Frankly everyone here seems to be too, regardless of their profession, because we've all got brains in our heads. We've done nothing wrong, morally or otherwise posting this information.
I'd like to point out to you that we've not given you their personal bank balances. Those are their companies' balances. Yes, they may be the sole directors of their two main companies and so it would seem one and the same, but its not. They'll have business expenses (such as the accountants who filed that info) to pay from these, other monies flowing in from debtors (spons etc) and other reconciling items.
Yes, they give an indication as to how well those companies are doing and hence how well deppy are doing, but that's all it is - an indication. Are you gonna lose your shit if we work out how many tickets they've sold for tatinof x average ticket price and guess at their income on that? Where are you drawing the line here?
'This is all wrong and you know it' - no, you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. And you certainly don't get to decide what all of us feel towards it.
And actually, the fact that its public info in fact DOES give us the right to post it where we wish and do whatever we please with it. I'd like to know what you think gives /you/ the right to police the forum.
danisnotonphil I really hope you're all over twitter and tumblr telling everybody who says something you disagree with how wrong they are and how they know it because you said so, why limit your gift to just this forum as if you're doing everybody here a favour? This isn't a hivemind, people disagree often (just earlier the 'Dan doesn't deserve X subs' generated some mostly CIVIL back and forth discussion) so stop addressing us like a singular naughty child. How about actually joining in/starting discussions rather than taking a drive-by shit in written form every time you want to climb up on your high horse. Over public information. PUBLIC. Readily available. To the public. But do you think Dan deserves 6M subs? The people need to know!
bluewho wrote:I got:
Alittledizzy
Writing your thoughts out is how you get your point across, and you always have great points to counter someone. You're very passionate about your opinions, but you're respectful of others as well.
^.^
danisnotonphil I know you must be feeling a little attacked right now, you shouldn't feel attacked, please try not to feel bad, but at the same time flying into a forum as a newbie and criticizing the way everything is done is not the way to go about things. But I am sure you have learnt your lesson now. I look forward to reading your post about whether Dan deserves 6 millions subs or not ^.^
There will be no post on whether dan deserves his 6m subscribers or not because we should all hang our heads in shame for looking at the easily accessible sub count at the top of his public YouTube channel, Phil hasn't acknowledged the sub count so we can't be sure they want that information to be discussed.
