Dan & Phil Part 73: my furry bf

[autumnhearth]

Listen, I really don’t want to spend anymore time trying to get the perfect screenshots of Dan and Phil’s legs (and Phil’s crotch) for my sideblog project, I really don’t. The first dozen tries are all blurry and I don’t want to pause and slide the video frame by frame. I’m done, I’ve had enough, it’s not what I signed up for, no thank you Dan! (Seriously am I the only person attracted to them that *isn’t* attracted to their bare legs? In jeans is fine, but blah. Glad their doing it for the lads and not me.) And why is there a big cushion on the floor at Phil’s feet? Nevermind, why would I ask such a thing?

Marianne is a goddess truly (as is Cornelia, but I’m scared for her).

Eh... light clothes, like white, grey, or black and white stripes still aren’t ‘coloured’. When is the last time we saw him in something colorful? The dog calendar doesn’t count, nor does Young Minds, their joint merch or Christmas jumpers. There was that horrid neon salmon shirt he wore in that art gaming vid last summer, a pink tourist t-shirt from either Singapore or Australia that we last saw when they were moving in. Does camouflage count? The cherry blossoms are on a dark background, the NASA cats are on white. Red and black plaid? I have to scroll back to 2013 on his Instagram to get to pink and purple tie dye and galaxy shirts with and without llama. He has really committed to that monochrome aesthetic.

[alittledizzy]

I just fell a little bit more in love with Marianne.

And also with this mom who was super concerned about Phil.

[ratlad]

phil is so dainty,,i lov..
also that mum :') so sweet

[obvsly]

And also with this mom who was super concerned about Phil.

Awww... that soft "It's too hot, angel" when the daughter showed dnp the pose she wanted...
my heart melts.

[captainspacecoat]

I just fell a little bit more in love with Marianne.

And also with this mom who was super concerned about Phil.

I never really watch videos of meet and greets because I have major irrational issues with secondhand embarrassment but I just watched that and omg, they are so sweet?? They come across so kind and present, and it's obvious they can tell how much a short interaction like that means to each viewer. I feel so fond of them after watching that oh my gosh, how lovely :')

Also omg yes, Marianne seem so cool and friendly and nice!!!

[yeetussy]

Watching those two Phil stories with the galaxy filter was already trippy enough, but I decided to put on the inverted colour filter to it as well (one of the settings in the Accessibility tab in iPhones, iykwim) and boy howdy was that a strange, yet hypnotising experience





now if you don’t mind me I’ll be staring at that for the next two hours,,,it’s almost 2 am here help

[Stakhanov]

It's nice to see that they are keeping us (somewhat) in the loop, sharing pictures and instagram stories.
All their recent actions like installing those gaming couches in the bus and the 4th of july fireworks celebrations remind me just how strong their friendship is. It's a heartwarming and rare friendship they have that's only gotten intenser as they have both traveled the same remarkable career path too, achieving their childhood dreams while having someone to lean on when hardships hit. I wish them the best

[LtrllySusan]

I just realised Dan's latest video (the tour trailer) is only sitting at 600k views and his subscriber count is not looking that great either.



To me, it's pretty clear that DINOF is just not his thing anymore and that he also doesn't care about the red numbers. But I can't help but feel a bit sad that so many people are unsubbing.

[flarequake]

The gap while they’re away on four counts for some too, though I get your point that he doesn’t seem so into it lately. Phil’s last video was a month ago so even with his usual drive, the tour has an impact. I was watching Hannah Witton the other day and she has a little under 500k subs so losing some from 6 million isn’t so bad.

[Ablissa]

Honestly, those aren't big losses. What's 5000 subscribers when you've got 6 and a half million? I'm more surprised by how little views the tour trailer has gotten. I think they ended up posting it a bit too late.

I agree it seems like the dinof channel is not Dan's main focus, but then again I feel like it hasn't been in a while now. The gaming channel seems like their favorite thing right now, and I guess that merch/tour/spons are their main sources of revenue as opposed to youtube. With all the glitches, adpocalypse and what not youtube can't be a reliable source of income anymore.

I'm not worried about them or their future. I just hope that they will keep us in the loop even if youtube is not going to be a major thing for the two of them in the coming years.

[alittledizzy]

Yeah those losses are pretty tiny, and his views are still strongly in the positive. Strictly financially speaking, since views are what's paying him not actual subscribers I don't think he's going to be the least bit phased over a fluctuation of .03% when what he's putting his time/energy to is something that is a dedicated nightly (well, almost nightly) income revenue source with immediate reaction and feedback from a live audience. I would say the red numbers probably bother him when he goes to look but I think it'd be pretty easy to just mentally tune it out right now.

I'm also not surprised the tour trailer has such low views, it's two minutes long and very obviously not a proper video so casual people not interested in the tour wouldn't click it even if youtube did deign to notify them. The tour announcement video has been up for seven months and only barely has a million views. If the next real dinof video only gets 600k then I'll definitely raise an eyebrow.

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

[LtrllySusan]

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

If we could detach Dan from the whole phan universe, then a video about his sexuality in the style of the mental health video. I am certain that it would be both interesting and inspiring, but since the immediate connection would be sexuality -> coming out -> #phanconfirmed, I don't see it happening... unless they are confirming?

Anyways, even as a stupid average straight person, I would love to hear more about his perception of his sexuality, since really seems like something that has changed over time.

[Stakhanov]

It's hard to say what is behind the lack of content on their main channels (especially Dan's but neither of them are really putting out much).

Motivation? Sure I can see how their channels can feel like a burden while they are touring and hopping from (side) project to project. Still doesn't really explain why they favor D&P games above their own channels, unless it's because those video's are just easier to make. A lot of notable youtubers seem to burn out after while, so I hope they find a way to keep their interest alive, and that they keep making content I enjoy.

Economics? The tours, books and merch must be more profitable than their channel, so in as far as money is driving them, they are at least in the short-tem right not to focus their energy on youtube. You need a whole lot of views to get the revenue of a ticket, and I don't imagine they fancy being dependent on third parties (youtubes ad sharing program) or algorithms. Long term though, you are confining yourself largely to the existing fanbase and their willingness to spend money on you. With a limited new inflow of fans, that base must dwindle over time. Youtube has a lot of drawbacks, but it remains a great platform to make a strong connection with an audience. If I just knew Dan and Phil and Dj's i'd never be invested in them or what they do as much as I am through their video's.

Creative block or other personal reasons? It's likely a mix of motivations that explains why their main channels are getting neglected, but since Dan has brought up his struggle to create content he's happy of, and has let us know that sometimes his depression gets in the way of doing what he likes to do I think it's a fair consideration. Phil, as with most things, doesn't really share much about his feelings and thoughts about the creative process, but it could well be he's struggling too.

[opendoor]

All I really want from danisnotonfire are sketch comedies, storytimes and light videos that make me laugh, if I'm honest. If he could deliver that once every few weeks I'd be happy as can be.

I recognise that might not be what Dan wants to do anymore and that's completely fine, but I'm not going to watch heavy things on Youtube. Youtube is where I come for escapism. I made an exception for the depression vid because I thought it was important, but it did still bum me out. I skipped "Trying to Live My Truth" entirely based on the reactions I saw online, because people were saying it was frustratingly vague and all over the shop and like a therapy session, and I was like "I don't need to watch something on the internet that's going to make me feel worse".

[LadyLackless]

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

Just like a 2hr unedited livestream of him messing around on his piano, trying to learn a song, noodling around, making mistakes, not being polished. He doesn’t have to talk.

I’m a lady of simple pleasures

[autumnhearth]

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

If we could detach Dan from the whole phan universe, then a video about his sexuality in the style of the mental health video. I am certain that it would be both interesting and inspiring, but since the immediate connection would be sexuality -> coming out -> #phanconfirmed, I don't see it happening... unless they are confirming?

Anyways, even as a stupid average straight person, I would love to hear more about his perception of his sexuality, since really seems like something that has changed over time.

All I really want from danisnotonfire are sketch comedies, storytimes and light videos that make me laugh, if I'm honest. If he could deliver that once every few weeks I'd be happy as can be.

I recognise that might not be what Dan wants to do anymore and that's completely fine, but I'm not going to watch heavy things on Youtube. Youtube is where I come for escapism. I made an exception for the depression vid because I thought it was important, but it did still bum me out. I skipped "Trying to Live My Truth" entirely based on the reactions I saw online, because people were saying it was frustratingly vague and all over the shop and like a therapy session, and I was like "I don't need to watch something on the internet that's going to make me feel worse".

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

Just like a 2hr unedited livestream of him messing around on his piano, trying to learn a song, noodling around, making mistakes, not being polished. He doesn’t have to talk.

I’m a lady of simple pleasures

All of the above please! Love his storytime/comedy sketches, would love some deeper topics, would love a candle haul/things that keep me grounded vid (even if it’s on his side channel or Instagram tv), would also love a seven deadly sins series and that dentist pain kink vid. What I don’t want: ISG and memes.

Sorry for my complaining at the top of the page last night. On the flip side I really loved taking screenshots of the galaxy filter stories.

[opendoor]

Ooh yes to the candle haul vid I would love that shit!
And if he didn't want to put it on danisnotonfire because of le dreaded quality control, it could go on danisnotinteresting. I wish he utilised the sidechannel a bit more, I adored his anime recommendation vids.

[flarequake]

I could go for more of his storytimes and sketches, piano in some form would be amazing and I’d like to hear more of his experiences with mental health or whatever he wants to talk about, some serious stuff from him as well is interesting. Thoughts on his creativity too, like a “why I don’t upload very often” maybe.

[loonyradish]

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

All of the above please! Love his storytime/comedy sketches, would love some deeper topics, would love a candle haul/things that keep me grounded vid (even if it’s on his side channel or Instagram tv), would also love a seven deadly sins series and that dentist pain kink vid. What I don’t want: ISG and memes.

Sorry for my complaining at the top of the page last night. On the flip side I really loved taking screenshots of the galaxy filter stories.

I agree with this! I don't really have a preferred content to be honest. I feel like Dan struggles with uploading a new video because he desperately wants to create something meaningful, while a lot of fans would gladly accept anything.
Personally I'd be totally fine with him uploading a five-minute video talking about (Phil's and) his breakfast because I just enjoy hearing him talk; it calms me down when I'm stressed and takes some of that ugly lonelyness away.

I'd be probably the happiest with some 2014/2015 kind of videos like "I mumble" or "I talk to myself" (i love the relatable content okay)or livestream-similar videos.

The only thing I really don't need to see more of is ISG, as has been said here before.

[ratlad]

i would like to see some videos about his therapy experiences, doesn't have to involve anything super specific though. whatever he's comfortable with. i think every time he posts a video, he's scared of backlash. he doesn't even have to do any cutaways or acting, i think he's pretty good at telling stories tbh. hell, he could even do a fun little video like one of phil's if he wants to. is he focused on what he thinks we want? or is he doing stuff he enjoys?
i kinda want to know his experinces with clubs he's joined in college, i just like his college stories.

[loonyradish]

i would like to see some videos about his therapy experiences, doesn't have to involve anything super specific though. whatever he's comfortable with. i think every time he posts a video, he's scared of backlash. he doesn't even have to do any cutaways or acting, i think he's pretty good at telling stories tbh. hell, he could even do a fun little video like one of phil's if he wants to. is he focused on what he thinks we want? or is he doing stuff he enjoys?
i kinda want to know his experinces with clubs he's joined in college, i just like his college stories.

Oh, same! I rewatched the depression vid yesterday and he mentioned that there would be so much potential for vids about therapy (or something similar). I'm currently trying to convince myself to look for a therapist, and watching a video about his experiences would help me a lot to get over my fears I think.

Also, as a student myself I'm all in for more college content, although i don't know how much he has to tell about it because he dropped out after the first semester (?).

[sonicgreen]

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

I would love to hear about his therapy experiences, but I can understand how that could be a lot more vulnerable and maybe oversharing for him. I think thats a respectable boundary. I really just want to hear him talk about something that makes him happy rn, but maybe thats what informal liveshows were for. Storytimes are also nice, he’s a very engaging speaker.

[lesterchuu]

i feel dan is onto something about his real talk™ series right now and i feel like he wants to properly put a decent epilogue to it first. as much as id love to see the idea of candle hauls or any other light-hearted videos coming intro fruition, those things can wait after the tour. most likely wed get tour related videos, if anything.

i really, really, REALLY love dans serious talks tho. sure i have anxiety and my mood could be easily influenced by negative nuances, but im the type that likes that mental stimulation from a casual debate or a philosophical discussion. i find that dans living my truth video or even the double D (dan and depression) very eloquent and appropriately funny since its coming from someone who had lived through those experiences. hes not making fun of it perse, hes just putting it in a different perspective where we dont have to look at these heavy topics with fright. in fact, it IS daunting AND difficult to discuss these topics (whew i feel like i used a lot of alliteration there), that does not mean you have to let it intimidate you. thats why i think i liked how dan approached those topics in a way that was still entertaining to watch. i do agree, he is an eloquent story-teller if you give him the time and creative liberty.

anyways, going back to the topic, id be happy with whatever his next "serious" video going along his "living my truth" series. i do know that he had mentioned filming something quick in between for his channel and also phils and im betting a dollar that theyre going to talk about some funny tour anecdote. you know what would be fun tho? remember how they did a list of mincepies ranking/review or something (i cant remember which liveshow it was) for the holidays? i would LOVE for them to do a dan and phil-esque ranking of all the pancakes that they eat because phillys been a little bit quiet about it for someone that was supposedly "excited" to eat them. disclaimer: it doesnt have to be only pancakes

[dancy]

I'm not at all surprised by the low views of the trailer either for the reasons that @alittledizzy named. The majority of Dan's audience probably consists of casual viewers who just aren't interested in the tour, especially not after a two-month gap on his channel. There are also mild spoilers which some people who have yet to see the show might want to avoid, though I'd say that plays a much smaller role.

Dan doesn't seem all that invested in his channel at the moment and both him and Phil are more focused on the gaming channel. Y'know, you can tell they enjoy making gaming videos together because they're casual, fun and easier to produce on a regular basis than main channel videos. However, Dan thinks more highly of DINOF and even though he overthinks a lot and feels anxious in regard to his uploads, I do believe he is quite proud of it. It's the channel that grew to 6.5 million subscribers and where he gets to show off his writing, so it's a bit of a shame to see it slowly wither away like this and I'd like to know how he feels about it and what his goals actually are. I mean, 5000 subscribers isn't that much compared to the number he still has but the fact that he is losing subs basically every day is worrying to me and if that continues to happen for months due to Dan not uploading, I can see it becoming a bigger issue for his channel and views. Phil hasn't uploaded in 5 weeks either, which is unusually long for him as he tends to upload every 2-3 weeks. I'm not sure how good of an idea it is to keep relying on the gaming channel like this (even though I do enjoy it very much) when the views are going down there as well. They're on tour and making money of that for now but what's gonna happen in three months when they're back home?

Anyway, I too would like to see Dan use his side channel more! He seems like he is somewhat interested in making more casual videos (such as the candle haul, mince pie codex video, Viewers Pick My Outfit etc) but he's too afraid to put those on DINOF, so danisnotinteresting would be the perfect place for that. Regarding his main channel though, I enjoy the occasional serious video à la "Daniel and Depression" (but not all the time) as well as storytimes/sketches (except My Evil Piano Teacher, I have a strange dislike for this video). Definitely don't need to see another "Memeing of Life" type of video though! One of the reasons this video didn't work for me (besides being hard to understand) is because it didn't really have anything to do with him. It missed that personal experience aspect that most of his other videos do have, which is why I'm not particularly interested in hearing him discuss topics in a general sense. Leave that kinda stuff for liveshows.

[Birdie]

Honestly, those aren't big losses. What's 5000 subscribers when you've got 6 and a half million? I'm more surprised by how little views the tour trailer has gotten. I think they ended up posting it a bit too late.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not really all that informed about stuff like this, but those are his subscriber losses in about two weeks, right? It doesn't seem much now but if he keeps losing about 5000 subscribers every two weeks, that's gonna be noticable sooner or later, I think. There's a downwards trend and while it's not alarming or anything, it might become a problem sooner or later.

Speaking of dinof videos - if you could have your ideal video from 2018 Dan, what would you want him to do?

Actually, I just want some light, funny videos from him, it's what got me interested in him in the first place after all. He has a crazy quality threshold these days but light and funny doesn't equal low-quality after all. I loved what he did in 2013/14 and I'd love to see how 2018 Dan would go about making videos like that. Basically I'd love to see more storytime videos again and funny videos about stuff that's important to him. He has a way of making funny stuff that actually has profound messages and I'd love to see exactly that but with 2018 Dan's perspective to it.