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Since he unliked it, definitely going the 'accident' route - but who would they be if not for occasionally giving us a shock with their accidental likes?
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autumnhearth wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:14 pm Speaking of which (kinda sorta) I have an even deeper appreciation for the transcripts since I’ve been doing my own show, I’m almost done, but I’ve had to go back so many times to hear what they’re saying over the audience noise and some of it is still unintelligible, even though I was there.
Oh my god, I know eh. I don't actually download them into another program (where I know you can change the increments), but just leave it on the first program it opens with - and on that one, you can only go back in 30 second increments. So I'll listen to the same part like 3 or 4 times just to hear one or two words I couldn't understand, and by that time it's a couple minutes to re-listen to one second of audio that I couldn't decipher. Which doesn't sound like a lot lol but this happens multiple times per show audio.

Anyways, my point is that I empathize with you lol and that @alittledizzy is a true hero for doing the (by far) majority of the shows. It ain't easy peeps, so just... round of applause for dizzy.
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def agree that the unliking makes it seem like it was an accident! if anything, liking the tweet pretty firmly goes against their protocol of staying ambiguous on most topics to do w their romantic relationship so that’s why i had sm trouble thinking he would actively do that, whether it was for a laugh or smth more serious! but lol guess i’ll just take the occasional mini heart attacks as part and parcel of following dnp haha
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and i immediately thought that he accidentally liked it, just like how they've accidentally followed people in the past, dan accidentally liking japanese wedding venue tweets and the "like if you're a bottom retweet if you're a top", etc...
dunno what this tweet would even imply if he purposely liked it, i don't even know what op meant when they said it but all i know is that "no we do not" is just a solid mood for my every day life.
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They really accidentally like some of the most "controversial" tweets. Phil liked one once asking if he was bi, dan with the top/bottom one and also the Japan wedding venues. When they accidentally like something they go all in.
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alittledizzy wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:32 pm
ratlad wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:28 pm just checked the transcripts page, someone got the audio for the Milwaukee show?? it's coming soon????? my day just got better, heard a lot of good stuff about it.
was it the sims dad one? i hope so,,,
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Actually not sure if the sims dad moment was Milwaukee or St Louis though. No one sent audio for St Louis.
Sims dad was st louis. i wish i would have known that no one would be recording the audio bc i definitely would have done it :(
but if it helps that comment was made at the beginning of the simulation section (the part where the audience chooses different options with satan for phil and furries for dan) and dan said something about how much easier/better (? something along those lines its been like a week) his life would be if he and phil could just live in the sims universe and be dils dads.
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hello9217 wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:14 pm They really accidentally like some of the most "controversial" tweets. Phil liked one once asking if he was bi, dan with the top/bottom one and also the Japan wedding venues. When they accidentally like something they go all in.
When did Phil like a tweet asking if he was bi? I remember hearing about the other two.
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sweetlyphan wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:23 pm
hello9217 wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:14 pm They really accidentally like some of the most "controversial" tweets. Phil liked one once asking if he was bi, dan with the top/bottom one and also the Japan wedding venues. When they accidentally like something they go all in.
When did Phil like a tweet asking if he was bi? I remember hearing about the other two.
It was during something that had to do with TATINOF in 2015 and the person had no other tweets other than this one asking if phil was bi.
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I definitely think that tweet like was an accident, even though I think some of the past likes might have not been, like the wedding venue like I think was some thing instinctual that Dan did and then realized, especially cause the unlike came after a bit.

But Lord knows I've liked some awful stuff by accident, so I'm not surprised at all. Imagine if he had liked the original rresponse tho Lmao
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hello9217 wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:14 pm They really accidentally like some of the most "controversial" tweets. Phil liked one once asking if he was bi, dan with the top/bottom one and also the Japan wedding venues. When they accidentally like something they go all in.
a pretty plausible theory is that they have locked private accounts. i have one, you guys probably have one, everybody has at least one or sometimes a dozen other accounts. twitter mobile app lets you switch between each account easily, and theres also tweetdeck, so what if a majority of the "accidental" likes were because they forgot which account theyre on? 🤔🤔🤔
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Okay, I'm working on the Columbus II transcript, and I need to share this part because it made me laugh.

During the 'what's in dan's box' section, the first answer is 'dead rats.' Then, the next answer is 'an anime body pillow', and this is what followed:

D: Because, trust me, when I'm done with that body pillow, it needs to be where I keep the dead rats.
P: Oh my gosh, Dan.

I was not expecting Dan to be so explicitly sexual about what he does with his anime body pillows. And apparently neither was Phil.

And then the last answer was 'secret slime collection', and this followed:

D: Why is it a secret slime collection? I don't know what I'm doing with this slime -
P: Oh my gosh
D: But I'll do it at the same time as whatever I'm doing with this anime body pillow


Poor, poor Phil. Dan was in some kind of mood at this show. Tour bus drought?
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hello9217 wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:14 pm They really accidentally like some of the most "controversial" tweets. Phil liked one once asking if he was bi, dan with the top/bottom one and also the Japan wedding venues. When they accidentally like something they go all in.
a pretty plausible theory is that they have locked private accounts. i have one, you guys probably have one, everybody has at least one or sometimes a dozen other accounts. twitter mobile app lets you switch between each account easily, and theres also tweetdeck, so what if a majority of the "accidental" likes were because they forgot which account theyre on? 🤔🤔🤔
They may have private accounts but seeing as how he was replying to other tweets at the same time as this "accidental" like I'm just going to assume that he mistakenly liked it and didn't realize it until he saw the mess. He even replied to a few after the like so I doubt he'd switch accounts while replying unless he liked the tweet so much that he couldn't wait to press that heart button. :lol:
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I mean, according to II tonight, Dan definitely has a private Phil stan account and the handle is @philsthiccbooty.
whatdoiknow wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:11 am Okay, I'm working on the Columbus II transcript, and I need to share this part because it made me laugh.

During the 'what's in dan's box' section, the first answer is 'dead rats.' Then, the next answer is 'an anime body pillow', and this is what followed:

D: Because, trust me, when I'm done with that body pillow, it needs to be where I keep the dead rats.
P: Oh my gosh, Dan.

I was not expecting Dan to be so explicitly sexual about what he does with his anime body pillows. And apparently neither was Phil.

And then the last answer was 'secret slime collection', and this followed:

D: Why is it a secret slime collection? I don't know what I'm doing with this slime -
P: Oh my gosh
D: But I'll do it at the same time as whatever I'm doing with this anime body pillow


Poor, poor Phil. Dan was in some kind of mood at this show. Tour bus drought?
Jesus Christ, Dan!

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alittledizzy wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:15 am Jesus Christ, Dan!

Now someone write the fic.
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(sorry for double post, it's past the editing window)

Just FYI, the Columbus II transcript is now up. (just letting you guys know, since there was already a placeholder post there, so it won't look like there's a new post in that thread)
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Question about the II VIP meet and greet: do I absolutely NEED to get there 3.5 hours before showtime? Because I work until 2 and then have a 2-2.5hour drive to get to the venue and I'm kinda freaking out that I won't make it!!!
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Question for the transcribers of the Interactive Introverts shows:
I'm really curious about the options in the choose-your-own-adventure Simulator part of the show. In both of my shows (Rosemont and St. Louis), Phil went to hell and Dan died, and I suspect this is probably what happens in an overwhelming majority of shows :roll:. However, spoilers from tonight's show in Atlanta indicate that the audience chose to have Dan make some friendly conversation with some lads in the corner (or whatever that option is) instead of taking body shots off an otter, and this choice resulted in him ending up in a five-way furry marriage, lol.

Are you transcribing this part of the show? If so, are you posting these transcripts anywhere? If these transcripts aren't posted anywhere, could you post the alternative endings (and options leading up to them) that you've heard?
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aleanna wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:51 am Question about the II VIP meet and greet: do I absolutely NEED to get there 3.5 hours before showtime? Because I work until 2 and then have a 2-2.5hour drive to get to the venue and I'm kinda freaking out that I won't make it!!!
Arrival time was 4:00 for my show (which started at 7:30), all VIPs were let in between 4:15 and 4:30, the meet and greet started slightly before 5:00 and it ended around 6:30. I'm not sure if they do it for every show, but we were wristbanded upon entry and it was cut off after we met them to ensure nobody went through twice, so I'm thinking they might be fussy if you arrive after the meet and greet starts. There shouldn't be any issues as long as you arrive before it begins, but I'd contact the venue to be on the safe side if you think you'll be any later than 45 minutes after the arrival time so nobody thinks you're trying to sneak through a second time or something silly :thumb:
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Phantasy wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:45 pm
nihilist-toothpaste wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:27 pm i’m on my phone right now so can’t upload screenshots but are we seeing phil’s latest twitter like in response to someone thinking the photo looked like a proposal??? lol idk why i’m cringing so much but it seems so odd and out of character for phil to even acknowledge tweets like that! i almost want to think it’s an accidental like but ahhh.... :?
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I don't think it's out of character, I think it's some of Phil's actual character slipping trough. But as mentioned I don't think he wanted to deal with all the people who would make a fizz fuzz over it so he unliked. He's always keen to keep things as uncontroversial an neat as possible, however he actually feels about it.
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^ i think it's more rational to think it was an accidental like while scrolling down and replying to people, unless you think every other slip up of a Twitter like/follow has a deeper meaning as well.
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It was 100% an accidental like, I don't understand why people are getting so upset about it, I swear I've seen some of the weirdest overreaction.

I also don't get the private account theory, it's not that deep?
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People have been mentioning a collection of show transcripts, but I'm unable to find them - could someone maybe send me a link? I uploaded the Berlin audio to Youtube and I'm trying to add subtitles, but I'm unsure about some words and I'd like to compare to make sure I got everything right, especially because I'm a non-native speaker. Thank you! <3

edit: Nvm, I think I found it :oops:
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>Phil's like:
Ok to add some nuance to my previous statement: I think it is in general impossible to be sure if you really caught the meaning of a tweet accurately. When I look back at my own tweets I can't always remember what exactly I was trying to say. I tweeted it in a specific mood, or was thinking about something late at night, or maybe I was reacting to something I read at the time. Don't we all at times misinterpret a tweet from someone on our timeline?
Considering how it can be difficult to even interpret your own tweets or those of friends, it seems like a daunting task to be right every time you look at Dan and Phil's tweets.

The exact interpretations of their tweets have lead to a bunch of speculation before. The Puerto Rican travel adventure comes to mind as an example, but it's 'big' as well as 'little' stuff. Some tweets, we interpret as jokes because they seem suspiciously 'on brand' and other times we think they are revealing something deep and true about themselves and that a tweet is just so characteristic of their personalities. We're clueless about the truth of that though. How can we verify that something was a joke or some heartfelt statement? If a tweet was carefully crafted to reinforce a public perception we already have of them or totally genuine (...or a mix) ?
We're forced to make a judgement call about what a tweet means and go by our intuitions and the ideas we hold of them as people. As in real life, but with a far larger margin of error because we have so much less information than e.g. when we're having a one-on-one convo with a real life friend.

The only thing we really know happened here is that there was response Phil liked and than he retracted his like about 20 minutes later. I think what you find a plausible explanation for this is going to depend on how you think they act in a broader concept. If you think it surely doesn't make sense he would dislike the idea of Dan proposing you're gonna think it must be a mistake. Or maybe you think it's a mistake based on how similar the response is compared to previous tweets that you think are mistakes (i think they rarely get confirmed as 'mistakes' though - the one instance i can think of where Dan himself says it was a mistake was the famous fav/retweet if you're a bottom thing? And then some people don't believe he made a mistake there :mrgreen: ). I think another possible scenario is that he read that, agreed with it and then maybe carelessly liked it. I say carelessly, because ofc I believe they are not a couple but at the same time have the view that they don't want to ruin shippers ideas about them so they mostly ignore the subject or try not to provoke it.

If we really care about what is true, we'd have to search for ways to distinguish all the possible interpretations and try find solid arguments and ways to test which one is more likely.
But that imo nearly impossible to do since we just don't have the means to get all the info and get in their mind. And it's more fun to just speculate and cherish your own beliefs about what happened :mrgreen:
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…Or, you could go off the basis that Phil especially has basically never liked anything that’s phan or phanti material on purpose BECAUSE of his overdramatic fanbase. The way he liked and unliked shows me that he didn’t realise he liked it, saw a bunch of phans moaning and groaning (and laughing as I’ve mainly seen) and promptly unliked it bc he didn’t mean to. It’s Not That Deep. And I think for everyone’s health at this point it shouldn’t even fester in your mind long enough for it to be that deep.
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it really isn't that deep. i like how we get told we're the ones who are always "over analysing" but now the tables have turned and phil's accidental like is a whole conspiracy theory about how phil is trapped being shipped with his Platonic Bro and their rabid phannies are forcing him to unlike the tweet because they don't want to ruin the delusional dreams of us shippers.

anyway, what i'm getting at is– we're not playing detective here, we can easily assume it was a total accident because he unliked it 10 minutes later. you don't have to think they're in a relationship to believe the like was an accident, we're not basing our conclusion off anything other than phil immediately unliking the tweet.
i have no interest or definite opinion in the idea of dan or phil proposing to the other, that has nothing to do with the fact that i think the like was accidental.
they're real people and not some sort of products with calculated moves for their career or popularity.

i think you may have a lot of misconceptions about a lot of us here who believe they're in a relationship, it's not a "theory" that we're all just collectively pulling out of our asses with no reasoning or base information. we literally don't give as much of a shit about this accidental twitter like as you think.
to us, everything we think makes sense because it perfectly adds up to the bigger picture and we're not still currently actively trying to prove they're in a relationship.

but hey! who knows, maybe us demon phannie shippers really are trapping them in their careers that they have to put up this ~queerbaity facade~ to cater to us because they love money.
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