Maybe he saw the 'Phil and Charlie at the zoo' video - I mean, it's not there now but we know it was real because tweets exist with the link still. I assume in late 2009 that video was still online. I don't think Phil was actually in love with Charlie but I think insecure 2009 Dan might have still been upset by Phil and Charlie's interactions, and seeing a video like that.opendoor wrote:This might be a bit reach-y, but if we were going to make this about phan, it could be about Dan seeing a vid of Phil with one of his exes (Charlie?) and it making reminding him of the way Phil is with him. And then the 'you never really stop loving someone' is him worrying about that.swofro wrote: I also found this tweet with no context. I wonder what he is on about.
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Is that one of the lost videos or is it in dd? I've never watched italittledizzy wrote:Maybe he saw the 'Phil and Charlie at the zoo' video - I mean, it's not there now but we know it was real because tweets exist with the link still. I assume in late 2009 that video was still online. I don't think Phil was actually in love with Charlie but I think insecure 2009 Dan might have still been upset by Phil and Charlie's interactions, and seeing a video like that.
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I don't think it's in the DD, unfortunately. I haven't seen it either so I have no idea what the tone of the video even is... I'm assuming just a vloggy day out type thing. But who knows? (Like, seriously, if anyone knows, I'm curious.)fancy_nancy wrote:Is that one of the lost videos or is it in dd? I've never watched italittledizzy wrote:Maybe he saw the 'Phil and Charlie at the zoo' video - I mean, it's not there now but we know it was real because tweets exist with the link still. I assume in late 2009 that video was still online. I don't think Phil was actually in love with Charlie but I think insecure 2009 Dan might have still been upset by Phil and Charlie's interactions, and seeing a video like that.
ding ding ding ding ding! I agree with this, that would make a lot of sense and give the tweet a lot of context.alittledizzy wrote:Maybe he saw the 'Phil and Charlie at the zoo' video - I mean, it's not there now but we know it was real because tweets exist with the link still. I assume in late 2009 that video was still online. I don't think Phil was actually in love with Charlie but I think insecure 2009 Dan might have still been upset by Phil and Charlie's interactions, and seeing a video like that.opendoor wrote:This might be a bit reach-y, but if we were going to make this about phan, it could be about Dan seeing a vid of Phil with one of his exes (Charlie?) and it making reminding him of the way Phil is with him. And then the 'you never really stop loving someone' is him worrying about that.swofro wrote: I also found this tweet with no context. I wonder what he is on about.

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[offtopic]No sight of in Louises first vidcon vlog, how disappointing
but she did say she's going to post vidcon day 2 tomorrow so there's hope[/offtopic]
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I don't think we're going to see D&P in Louise's vlogs, they don't seem to have hung out a lotfancy_nancy wrote:[offtopic]No sight of in Louises first vidcon vlog, how disappointingbut she did say she's going to post vidcon day 2 tomorrow so there's hope[/offtopic]

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Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
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That sounds very interesting.thestigdriveamini wrote:Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
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Do you know the approximate timestamp of when she started talking about it?thestigdriveamini wrote:Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
[offtopic]I didn't even know fb had liveshows...seems like better quality than younow and the comments remain if anyone is curious enough to see what she was being asked/ignored.[/offtopic]
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Oh that's hilarious. And pretty telling, imo. I wonder if Dan and Phil have passed a lowkey memo around to friends (or the professional acquaintances they're most friendly with) that people don't need to go on the defense on their behalf? Considering her reaction last time phan got mentioned, compared to this one.thestigdriveamini wrote:Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
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Do you know the approximate timestamp of when she started talking about it?
I want to say it was between 14:00-17:00 minute mark, but I'm not 100% on that. I was kind of half listening while I was getting ready.
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I wonder if FB live pays though. I hope it does because it certainly is better quality compared to YouNow. It'd be awesome if D&P also do FB lives.blueapple_x wrote: [offtopic]I didn't even know fb had liveshows...seems like better quality than younow and the comments remain if anyone is curious enough to see what she was being asked/ignored.[/offtopic]
Sorry for the not knowing and being curious, but how did she react last time phan was mentioned?alittledizzy wrote:thestigdriveamini wrote: Oh that's hilarious. And pretty telling, imo. I wonder if Dan and Phil have passed a lowkey memo around to friends (or the professional acquaintances they're most friendly with) that people don't need to go on the defense on their behalf? Considering her reaction last time phan got mentioned, compared to this one.

P: What are you doing?
D: I'm feeding it to you.
P: Why is it so slow?
Oh god, now I'm getting excited. My poor phan heart, let this be true. It is telling though.alittledizzy wrote:Oh that's hilarious. And pretty telling, imo. I wonder if Dan and Phil have passed a lowkey memo around to friends (or the professional acquaintances they're most friendly with) that people don't need to go on the defense on their behalf? Considering her reaction last time phan got mentioned, compared to this one.thestigdriveamini wrote:Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
... Or it confirms they indeed have those secret live-in girl/boyfriends.
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FB has a weird time bar that counts down and doesn't show where it's at, but seems like she started talking about it around 21:12 (with about 30:26 minutes remaining)thestigdriveamini wrote:Do you know the approximate timestamp of when she started talking about it?
I want to say it was between 14:00-17:00 minute mark, but I'm not 100% on that. I was kind of half listening while I was getting ready.
https://www.facebook.com/louisepentland ... =2&theater
EDIT: She mentioned Dan with around 27:16 minutes remaining and then Phil shortly after. She just laughed and said she'd eat Dan alive and he doesn't like to leave his house, and "poor Dan" lol. And for Phil, she mentioned he lives in London, it's not going to work, and it'd be a bit weird.
Meh, tbh her reaction didn't seem too suspicious to me. She's around gleamers way more than D+P so it's only natural she wouldn't think of D+P right away.
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Hey guys, stupid question: what is "DD"? Some sort of archive?
Slightly OT: To fill the barren landscape left in the wake of TATINOF, I've started to watch some other mainstream YouTubers that *seem* to be promoted by YT HQ, and Superwoman / Lily Singh was the choice yesterday. IDK, if YT/YTR is banking on her content, then I'm not sure YTR will succeed. It wasn't at all like my initial D&P (ok, actually Dan, then Phil) foray: they drew me in after watching just one of their videos, and had me digging through their content like proper trash in no time.
Slightly OT: To fill the barren landscape left in the wake of TATINOF, I've started to watch some other mainstream YouTubers that *seem* to be promoted by YT HQ, and Superwoman / Lily Singh was the choice yesterday. IDK, if YT/YTR is banking on her content, then I'm not sure YTR will succeed. It wasn't at all like my initial D&P (ok, actually Dan, then Phil) foray: they drew me in after watching just one of their videos, and had me digging through their content like proper trash in no time.
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Here's a transcript of what she said.
She starts talking about D&P at 27:13 minutes left
Louise: Dan. Uhm. *pauses* No. *laughs* Not Dan either. I think that I would eat Dan alive. He.. He would be terrified. I don’t… You… No. Poor Dan. He doesn’t like to leave his house, does he? Not gonna do well in Suburbia. Uhm. *reads* Phil. Again, same as Dan. He lives in London. It’s not gonna work. Be a bit weird.
She starts talking about D&P at 27:13 minutes left
Louise: Dan. Uhm. *pauses* No. *laughs* Not Dan either. I think that I would eat Dan alive. He.. He would be terrified. I don’t… You… No. Poor Dan. He doesn’t like to leave his house, does he? Not gonna do well in Suburbia. Uhm. *reads* Phil. Again, same as Dan. He lives in London. It’s not gonna work. Be a bit weird.

P: What are you doing?
D: I'm feeding it to you.
P: Why is it so slow?
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I think there's just a difference in what kind of audience someone like Lilly gets compared to Dan and Phil. Lilly doesn't inspire a fandom, but she also doesn't really need to. Lilly makes good, solid, funny videos on a regular basis (twice a week) that people can rely on for entertainment. It's a bit like pewdiepie - not everyone needs a fandom around them to succeed.uglyamerican wrote:Hey guys, stupid question: what is "DD"? Some sort of archive?
Slightly OT: To fill the barren landscape left in the wake of TATINOF, I've started to watch some other mainstream YouTubers that *seem* to be promoted by YT HQ, and Superwoman / Lily Singh was the choice yesterday. IDK, if YT/YTR is banking on her content, then I'm not sure YTR will succeed. It wasn't at all like my initial D&P (ok, actually Dan, then Phil) foray: they drew me in after watching just one of their videos, and had me digging through their content like proper trash in no time.
And, as Dan and Phil prove, it works the other way around - not everyone needs a regular upload schedule and abundant ideas.
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[offtopic][/offtopic]Just something I've been wondering for a while: many of the users here have been in the phandom for a long time- was anyone here fans of Phil in 2009 or earlier? I'm curious because we've all seen old tweets and formed opinions on them, but does anyone have context from being a part of the community themselves? I'm an avid phan shipper but I know that tweets are very easy to fake. It'd be interesting to know what people who were fans in the early days thought of deppy's interactions with each other/the world. Sorry for being off topic- the tweets a few pages back reminded me that I've been wanting to ask!
DD is drug deal, password protected tumblr post with google docs link that contains a lot of old and privated videos from Dan and Phil, I don't have a link but I'm sure someone else has? I would love if it would be linked again maybe on some less populated subthread so it is easier to access? It was linked a couple threads back (couple probably mean more like 10 but what even is concept of passing time?). Oh and password is really easy. And there is a second version that I didn't figure out what password it has but I think the only extra stuff it contains is voldy? Witch can be found way more easily with google hah
But I have to say I really liked watching old Phil videos, like that one that he has a trip to Belgium(?) with friends or that family trip to gatorland video and checking new camera with his girl friend. I don't know why I liked them so much I'm usually not such a voyeuristic girl..
But I have to say I really liked watching old Phil videos, like that one that he has a trip to Belgium(?) with friends or that family trip to gatorland video and checking new camera with his girl friend. I don't know why I liked them so much I'm usually not such a voyeuristic girl..
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Same. High five. Fetus Phil (before Dan) is amazing. Obviously, I am a . But Fetus Phil's videos are so engaging (and weird). And, it's too obvious that he was try to attract people. I often blush watching his old videos.sia wrote: But I have to say I really liked watching old Phil videos, like that one that he has a trip to Belgium(?) with friends or that family gatorland video and checking new camera with his girl friend. I don't know why I liked them so much I'm usually not such a voyeuristic girl..
Yup he was cute and very just real or something. I kinda have a feeling that the change began even before he met Dan. Maybe because his audience was growing he got more aware he was actually addressing bigger crowds when filming or something. Don't know, I have no idea how fast/slow he was getting popular back then or when did he started to get aware of that numbers. I mean now we think 1000 subscribers is nothing in comparision to 3 million but it is actually a lot of people 
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1)I'll confess, saw by mistake voldy for the first time (seriously thought there would be a troll song) a few days ago (also don't think it is anything new but it was removed due to ap), but the vibe that it gave me has me always more agnostic
With that said, Louise would never say anything regarding be that they are togheter or one of them has a partner, she learned from her past rumored mistakes and possibly was told to ignore the issue and this is what she did imo.
2)I'm curious, someone knows who was dan first subscriber? do we assume it was phil?
3)Today I remembered that not only there's Louise lost video
but there's also Tyler's one that they filmed as an alternative to the porn one 
With that said, Louise would never say anything regarding be that they are togheter or one of them has a partner, she learned from her past rumored mistakes and possibly was told to ignore the issue and this is what she did imo.
2)I'm curious, someone knows who was dan first subscriber? do we assume it was phil?
3)Today I remembered that not only there's Louise lost video
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I don't think Louise lost the video footage, I think she was asked to wait until they got back from the US so they could edit/approve it perhaps? YouTube is her job, would she really lose something that would get her at least a million views? I wouldn't be surprised if in a fortnight we get a "ooh I've found the memory card! New vid tomorrow!" Tweet.
[offtopic]Dont know if it's technically off topic as it's clearly aimed mainly at the phandom but has anyone seen the new video from the girl called hannah who does all the lovely phanimation videos? It's an incredibly articulate discussion about what annoys her about fandoms as a whole and I just hope her YT comments remain respectful because she raised a few valid points. Plus I love her phanimation she's very talented and has a knack for picking the funniest bits to animate.[/offtopic]
[offtopic]Dont know if it's technically off topic as it's clearly aimed mainly at the phandom but has anyone seen the new video from the girl called hannah who does all the lovely phanimation videos? It's an incredibly articulate discussion about what annoys her about fandoms as a whole and I just hope her YT comments remain respectful because she raised a few valid points. Plus I love her phanimation she's very talented and has a knack for picking the funniest bits to animate.[/offtopic]
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I don't think they have a secret BF/gfs because it would be so awkward. They would have to live in their basement or something and never could go outside. Also it would be like "oh me and Phil are going to Japan for 2 weeks bye!" and that would be weird. Also the way Dan and Phil act with each other isn't very platonic, and I'm sure their gf/bf would be uncomfortable.kooshka wrote:Oh god, now I'm getting excited. My poor phan heart, let this be true. It is telling though.alittledizzy wrote:Oh that's hilarious. And pretty telling, imo. I wonder if Dan and Phil have passed a lowkey memo around to friends (or the professional acquaintances they're most friendly with) that people don't need to go on the defense on their behalf? Considering her reaction last time phan got mentioned, compared to this one.thestigdriveamini wrote:Just watching Louise's facebook live show and she was talking about if she would date another youtuber and she was saying how the only single guys she knows are Marcus, Joe, and Casper. No mention of which made my trashcan heart flutter. Also, people in the chat starting naming youtubers to date and she commented on each of them. She got to Dan and just laughed like she knows a secret and said NO...same with Phil...
Found that a bit interesting. She really paused for a minute to think about the single guys she knows... please excuse my rambling
... Or it confirms they indeed have those secret live-in girl/boyfriends.
But she sees dnp a lot, and they don't seem just "aquatintnes" more friends and I think she would remember dnp. She laughed funnily as well (is this just me) but who knows.blueapple_x wrote:FB has a weird time bar that counts down and doesn't show where it's at, but seems like she started talking about it around 21:12 (with about 30:26 minutes remaining)thestigdriveamini wrote:Do you know the approximate timestamp of when she started talking about it?
I want to say it was between 14:00-17:00 minute mark, but I'm not 100% on that. I was kind of half listening while I was getting ready.
https://www.facebook.com/louisepentland ... =2&theater
EDIT: She mentioned Dan with around 27:16 minutes remaining and then Phil shortly after. She just laughed and said she'd eat Dan alive and he doesn't like to leave his house, and "poor Dan" lol. And for Phil, she mentioned he lives in London, it's not going to work, and it'd be a bit weird.
Meh, tbh her reaction didn't seem too suspicious to me. She's around gleamers way more than D+P so it's only natural she wouldn't think of D+P right away.
Yes I love her!biatchqueen wrote:I don't think Louise lost the video footage, I think she was asked to wait until they got back from the US so they could edit/approve it perhaps? YouTube is her job, would she really lose something that would get her at least a million views? I wouldn't be surprised if in a fortnight we get a "ooh I've found the memory card! New vid tomorrow!" Tweet.
[offtopic]Dont know if it's technically off topic as it's clearly aimed mainly at the phandom but has anyone seen the new video from the girl called hannah who does all the lovely phanimation videos? It's an incredibly articulate discussion about what annoys her about fandoms as a whole and I just hope her YT comments remain respectful because she raised a few valid points. Plus I love her phanimation she's very talented and has a knack for picking the funniest bits to animate.[/offtopic]
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I've always wanted to see the extra video Dan filmed with Tyler, don't think we ever will but we can praycorn flakes wrote: 3)Today I remembered that not only there's Louise lost videobut there's also Tyler's one that they filmed as an alternative to the porn one

