Dan & Phil Part 48: Exposing themselves via fidget spinner

[Susanisnotafish]

HELP WE ARE SO LOST timestamps:

:02 - Starting with a strong priss from Dan right out of the gate.
:36 - "Like Grindr." "Not like Grindr."
:48 - Dan's head turn and slow cute smile and the way Phil breaks into a full face smile when he sees Dan looking at him. Shit, that's the good stuff.
1:15 - No noise during the dvp intro.
1:24 - GCSE vs A-Levels
1:29 - P: "I'm gonna throw my meandering rivers at your nose." D: "I'm gonna hit you with an oxbow lake. Right in the tits."
1:47 - Dan insisting this counts as a round and preemptively mocking Phil.
1:58 - (Phil looking over at Dan as he talks, because fuck the rest of it us - it's just about trying to make Dan laugh.) P: "A nudist lives there." D: "It's just a giant penis." P: "They're just letting it all hang out over there."
3:06 - "Suck those points, Lester."
3:19 - P: "Prepare to suck on these points, because we're going in."
3:36 - P: "Don't you try and mess me up, Howell."
3:49 - Phil full on flirting: "D and B, Dan and Ben. Who's the B, Dan?"
4:28 - Phil's voice/face are so appealing when he's talking about liking that location because it's close to where he picked.
5:05 - Phil pointing out a plant that is found in England.
5:47 - Phil's face while he's watching Dan pick.
6:43 - D: "You're a big person, Phil. The world needs to cater for other people."
7:15 - Phil finding Dan's opinion on whether it's Seattle or not very important, while also not trusting him at all.
7:42 - Punchy punch from Phil.
7:58 - They spot a man who definitely watches their videos.
8:32 - Dan's back up career is sky flasher.
9:04 - Brief tangent about spiders in mailboxes.
9:22 - P: "Fertilize my crops, mappie."
9:24 - "Oh yeah, great /fucking/ click going on a straight line on a road." This is actually one of the moments where I could see Dan feeling like he was extra - he finishes with a joke about dust mites but the first sentence is actually reasonably annoyed Dan, and Phil answers with a slightly raised voice at first. I think it's an extremely normal exchange between them, neither are actually upset, but given that it's not immediately joking nor is it over the top snark I could see Dan feeling weird about it.
9:52 - Theresa May running through a field of wheat joke.
10:12 - Phil saying "No!" and Dan reassuring him of how good that was. Also Phil practically in Dan's lap for the next twenty or so seconds.
10:32 - D: "Egg Jesus has risen."
10:52 - "Get to the map, Danny. You're stalling."
11:22 - Lean in close together, and Phil clapping in excitement over his Danish sign.
11:36 - P: "My willies are so un-nilly."
11:48 - Cute cute smile from Dan as he's teasing Phil about having to find Denmark on the map.
12:12 - Affectionate slapping from Phil.
12:23 - Dan: "I'm absolutely porked." and Phil laughing harder.
14:00 - Dan trolling.
14:10 - Dan scolding Phil for not remembering the lesson Dan taught him about cars.
14:44 - Big cute smile from Dan when Phil tries to pronounce something.
15:53 - Dan critiquing Phil's placement.
16:04 - "I don't fucking know, roll it into a spliff and then it's a cone earth, just stick it on the fucking board, this is hurting my thighs." Another spot where his tone is very normal Dan and his words are a little more exasperated/whiny than normal? Like, it's something he'd normally say, but he'd play it up quite a lot. The quieter and more normal tone he is the more actually annoyed he seems. (But the same kind of momentary annoyance that Phil is unphased by.)

Thanks so much alittledizzy for always making these awesome timestamps with A++ commentary! About the places Dan might have felt he was being extra, it's weird but I feel like I've seen him like this several times before, so it didn't seem off to me. Could be that it's been a long time ago, since I watch stuff from the time span of their entire careers every day. Could be that Dan is becoming even more self-aware. I just hope this vid gets enough views, thumbs up and positive comments that he feels ok with being more his true self and less over the top persona-ish. I mean, he's never unlisted or apologized for that old gaming video on danisnotonfire where he obvs is so truly annoyed at Phil that it's hard for me to watch (except that Phil was sooo enjoying getting that reaction from Dan that I still do watch it.) Phil is so perfect for Dan, he loves Dan's whiny ass. This vid, on the other hand is just sooo perfect. I wonder if the next one can live up to this? I have hope that they filmed several in one day and they're all like this one.

[lurker]

i'm currently rewatching the video and changing my opinion to say that dan rating locations with 1 star simply because phil had a close guess is extra

loved dizzy's timestamps and thoughts and i have to agree that phil being unphased by dan is a beautiful thing to witness. it seems like quite a contrast to the louder kind of extraness (if that makes sense) and phil giggling or rolling his eyes and i'm really happy this video exists.

i also only now noticed phil's t-rex comment and i'm amazed that dan immediately understood what he meant and automatically paraphrased it.

[saffarinda]

Just wanna say the entire interaction from 12:36 confuses me so much. I get what they're talking about at the start, but when it gets to:

Phil: Oh, Denver.
Dan: Denver
Phil: No, you've made me think it's-
Dan: Colorado, yeah.

then just the way Phil abruptly straightens slightly and narrows his eyes in confusion(?) I'm just left like ??? wow guys, not all of us are mind readers, can you pls explain every movement and mindmeld with an indepth extended essay.

[Blue Girl]

Just wanna say the entire interaction from 12:36 confuses me so much.

You made me curious so I went back and re-watched it. If you consider the part they mentioned right before that I think it makes more sense.

Dan asks, "Where's the place in America that's high up?" Phil answers, "The Rockies" which is one of the highest mountain ranges. But then Dan says, "The town," probably meaning to find it on the map. That's when Phil answers, "Denver," and then Dan says "Colorado."

I think the eye squinting was just trying to remember that Denver was the capital of Colorado and the city you might associate with the Rockies since it is so close.

In other news, does anyone know if Deppy is heading back to London right away or staying in SoCal a little longer?

[Susanisnotafish]

Re: whether they're staying in CA

Phil said he won't be doing a ls until July and I took that to mean they wouldn't be back but I guess it doesn't neccessarily mean that. Phil could be busy with something back in the UK.

[alittledizzy]

Re: whether they're staying in CA

Phil said he won't be doing a ls until July and I took that to mean they wouldn't be back but I guess it doesn't neccessarily mean that. Phil could be busy with something back in the UK.

July is only four days away, so that'd only be one missed liveshow from Phil - tbh I think even if they're back today or tomorrow he might just take the chance to not do a liveshow this week.

[MythicalPinkTrashCan]

Just wanna say the entire interaction from 12:36 confuses me so much.

You made me curious so I went back and re-watched it. If you consider the part they mentioned right before that I think it makes more sense.

Dan asks, "Where's the place in America that's high up?" Phil answers, "The Rockies" which is one of the highest mountain ranges. But then Dan says, "The town," probably meaning to find it on the map. That's when Phil answers, "Denver," and then Dan says "Colorado."

I think the eye squinting was just trying to remember that Denver was the capital of Colorado and the city you might associate with the Rockies since it is so close.?

Okay, so I thought the whole things was a pot joke? Since the mj is legal in Colorado. That's catholic school education really comes in handy....

[Susanisnotafish]

Re: whether they're staying in CA

Phil said he won't be doing a ls until July and I took that to mean they wouldn't be back but I guess it doesn't neccessarily mean that. Phil could be busy with something back in the UK.

July is only four days away, so that'd only be one missed liveshow from Phil - tbh I think even if they're back today or tomorrow he might just take the chance to not do a liveshow this week.

I wasn't clear on whether he was speaking for both his as well as Dan's liveshows not happening until July. But I'm not getting my hopes up that there will be a Dan show this week either.

[lefthandedism]

Just wanna say the entire interaction from 12:36 confuses me so much.

You made me curious so I went back and re-watched it. If you consider the part they mentioned right before that I think it makes more sense.

Dan asks, "Where's the place in America that's high up?" Phil answers, "The Rockies" which is one of the highest mountain ranges. But then Dan says, "The town," probably meaning to find it on the map. That's when Phil answers, "Denver," and then Dan says "Colorado."

I think the eye squinting was just trying to remember that Denver was the capital of Colorado and the city you might associate with the Rockies since it is so close.

I took the whole conversation as personal recollection, since they did a show in Denver. I seem to recall that they were quite aware of how high it was:

Why do I waste brain cells remembering tweets from a year ago.

[Birdie]

The Denver thing didn't stand out to me at all, I thought it was just them trying to remember which city was high up. Phil also mentioned Des Moines when he saw it on the map, I guess all the American places just reminded them of the American leg of TATINOF and they might have had a bit of trouble remembering which city was which since they saw a lot of places in a short amount of time.

[LtrllySusan]

Btw fun fact, someone edited the wiki article to My Dad Wrote a Porno to include Phil as a "notable listener" (didnt add a source though)

[droopy]

Btw fun fact, someone edited the wiki article to My Dad Wrote a Porno to include Phil as a "notable listener" (didnt add a source though)

A screenshot as been acquired. Honestly though, it'd probably be a valid contribution to the page if someone just sourced his recording for that younow. I have no idea no idea how to edit Wikipedia and can't be bothered to do it right now, otherwise I would.

[alittledizzy]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

[000dia000]

Btw fun fact, someone edited the wiki article to My Dad Wrote a Porno to include Phil as a "notable listener" (didnt add a source though)

A screenshot as been acquired. Honestly though, it'd probably be a valid contribution to the page if someone just sourced his recording for that younow. I have no idea no idea how to edit Wikipedia and can't be bothered to do it right now, otherwise I would.

On the topic of editing wikipedia...can somebody please change Phil's picture? It gives me nightmares. There's no dimension, it looks like a terrible drawing.

I don't think people can change it as easily anymore, deppy's pages have been semi-locked due to the number of people vandalizing it. I think you have to be a registered user for a certain number of days and have a source for the picture, otherwise it would not work.

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Cat: h̯̳͈I͚͇͙ͅ ̱̼G͓̠u̲̠̫̭̝y̬̟s͔̲̖̖!̬̠̺!͎̲͓̮̖̟!͉͉͍̹͇!̘̲̞̳̫̗̬!̠̖͍̟̞!̱͉͓̗ ̘͎͖Today we're going to be talking about m͚e̯͈̼͔Ḙ̯͇̖̯͚Ẹ͙͎̭͙̣E̙̟

Honestly, I don't see it being that creative. Just a game or "challenge" done half-heartily. It will result in many a few heart-eyes Howell gifs on Tumblr and simultaneously a minor "Danrific" hysteria. That's the extent of what I expect

[bee]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Idk, something boring*

*I feel bored with almost all Youtube content I'm subscribed to, especially collabs, persona-heavy (or personality-heavy) stuff bores me, even a lot of Deppy (though I loved the Geoguessr vid but I'm an avid Geoguessr player so ) If they manage to do something fresh or out-of-the-box than they normally do, I'll be surprised but that's what I would like to see
Also I'm bored with Deppy and some of their repeated jokes, like the fisting hand movements and then acting surprised. Mehh. Maybe it's me I'l go back under my rock now and not spoil all the fun for everyone

[thephandommenace]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

What I'd like to see is her filming feeding each other blindfolded while she provides them things like syrup and whipped cream but from behind the camera
Staying within the realms of possibility, a board game or a card game might be nice.

[BSV]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Idk, something boring*

*I feel bored with almost all Youtube content I'm subscribed to, especially collabs, persona-heavy (or personality-heavy) stuff bores me, even a lot of Deppy (though I loved the Geoguessr vid but I'm an avid Geoguessr player so ) If they manage to do something fresh or out-of-the-box than they normally do, I'll be surprised but that's what I would like to see
Also I'm bored with Deppy and some of their repeated jokes, like the fisting hand movements and then acting surprised. Mehh. Maybe it's me I'l go back under my rock now and not spoil all the fun for everyone

I feel you, maybe its just life getting in the way but i haven't felt genuinely excited by a video for a while and its funny as I was chatting to my sister at the weekend (she got me into deppy and shes 10 years younger than me) and she was saying how she's getting bored and isn't into it as much anymore (and she's met them 3 times!). I dunno, i still look forward to liveshows
Im not even sure what i want them to do but who knows, maybe they'll come back from Vidcon, refreshed and inspired

[onetruetrash]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Idk, something boring*

*I feel bored with almost all Youtube content I'm subscribed to, especially collabs, persona-heavy (or personality-heavy) stuff bores me, even a lot of Deppy (though I loved the Geoguessr vid but I'm an avid Geoguessr player so ) If they manage to do something fresh or out-of-the-box than they normally do, I'll be surprised but that's what I would like to see
Also I'm bored with Deppy and some of their repeated jokes, like the fisting hand movements and then acting surprised. Mehh. Maybe it's me I'l go back under my rock now and not spoil all the fun for everyone

I feel you, maybe its just life getting in the way but i haven't felt genuinely excited by a video for a while and its funny as I was chatting to my sister at the weekend (she got me into deppy and shes 10 years younger than me) and she was saying how she's getting bored and isn't into it as much anymore (and she's met them 3 times!). I dunno, i still look forward to liveshows
Im not even sure what i want them to do but who knows, maybe they'll come back from Vidcon, refreshed and inspired

I've been thinking the same thing lately. I don't feel very excited for their content anymore. Maybe the thing in February will be exciting, at least that's what I'm hoping.

[JustMe]

For anyone who's interested, here's the official vidcon video of their travel story

[alittledizzy]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Idk, something boring*

*I feel bored with almost all Youtube content I'm subscribed to, especially collabs, persona-heavy (or personality-heavy) stuff bores me, even a lot of Deppy (though I loved the Geoguessr vid but I'm an avid Geoguessr player so ) If they manage to do something fresh or out-of-the-box than they normally do, I'll be surprised but that's what I would like to see
Also I'm bored with Deppy and some of their repeated jokes, like the fisting hand movements and then acting surprised. Mehh. Maybe it's me I'l go back under my rock now and not spoil all the fun for everyone

I feel you, maybe its just life getting in the way but i haven't felt genuinely excited by a video for a while and its funny as I was chatting to my sister at the weekend (she got me into deppy and shes 10 years younger than me) and she was saying how she's getting bored and isn't into it as much anymore (and she's met them 3 times!). I dunno, i still look forward to liveshows
Im not even sure what i want them to do but who knows, maybe they'll come back from Vidcon, refreshed and inspired

I've been thinking the same thing lately. I don't feel very excited for their content anymore. Maybe the thing in February will be exciting, at least that's what I'm hoping.

Their content hasn't actually changed, though. It's just that fandoms are like relationships, you go through honeymoon periods near the start where everything is fascinating and exciting and every day you discover something new that just makes you feel freshly infatuated... and then eventually that levels off, and the things that felt so new and exciting are just normal.

And like relationships, sometimes you realize that there was no substance beyond the infatuation and you get bored and the interest fully fades. IDB itself gets a new wave of posters every few months and some of those only post for a few months and then find a new interest and just kind of disappear. But for a lot of people that honeymoon period ending just brings about a new comfortable phase that involves community and making friends and consuming/creating content outside of just waiting around for the next video.

(There is no right or wrong implied in this post, just me rambling about fandom and how cyclic it is.)

[LtrllySusan]

On the topic of editing wikipedia...can somebody please change Phil's picture? It gives me nightmares. There's no dimension, it looks like a terrible drawing.

I don't think people can change it as easily anymore, deppy's pages have been semi-locked due to the number of people vandalizing it. I think you have to be a registered user for a certain number of days and have a source for the picture, otherwise it would not work.

If the rules are still the same as some years ago, then the person uploading the photo needs to be the copyright holder, unless the photo was uploaded to flickr or the like with a special copyright licence. So it's unfortunately a bit tricky - which is why when you look at other celebrities' pages, they often have stage or red carpet photos.

[hopinglester]

Since Cat apparently has a collab with them coming this week, any guesses on what it'll be? Or things you'd like to see her make them do?

Idk, something boring*

*I feel bored with almost all Youtube content I'm subscribed to, especially collabs, persona-heavy (or personality-heavy) stuff bores me, even a lot of Deppy (though I loved the Geoguessr vid but I'm an avid Geoguessr player so ) If they manage to do something fresh or out-of-the-box than they normally do, I'll be surprised but that's what I would like to see
Also I'm bored with Deppy and some of their repeated jokes, like the fisting hand movements and then acting surprised. Mehh. Maybe it's me I'l go back under my rock now and not spoil all the fun for everyone

I feel you, maybe its just life getting in the way but i haven't felt genuinely excited by a video for a while and its funny as I was chatting to my sister at the weekend (she got me into deppy and shes 10 years younger than me) and she was saying how she's getting bored and isn't into it as much anymore (and she's met them 3 times!). I dunno, i still look forward to liveshows
Im not even sure what i want them to do but who knows, maybe they'll come back from Vidcon, refreshed and inspired

I've been thinking the same thing lately. I don't feel very excited for their content anymore. Maybe the thing in February will be exciting, at least that's what I'm hoping.

Their content hasn't actually changed, though. It's just that fandoms are like relationships, you go through honeymoon periods near the start where everything is fascinating and exciting and every day you discover something new that just makes you feel freshly infatuated... and then eventually that levels off, and the things that felt so new and exciting are just normal.

And like relationships, sometimes you realize that there was no substance beyond the infatuation and you get bored and the interest fully fades. IDB itself gets a new wave of posters every few months and some of those only post for a few months and then find a new interest and just kind of disappear. But for a lot of people that honeymoon period ending just brings about a new comfortable phase that involves community and making friends and consuming/creating content outside of just waiting around for the next video.

(There is no right or wrong implied in this post, just me rambling about fandom and how cyclic it is.)

I agree with the fact that Dan and Phil haven't changed their content and that we tend to lose interest after we get through our phase of being enthralled by the novelty of them. But I guess that's kind of the point? The fact that they keep repeating the same content and, as bolded, keep repeating the same jokes and same <kind of fakish> reactions is what makes people 'bored'.

I get that you could say that it's not Dan and Phil's jobs to make content that everyone will enjoy and that if someone does not like their content anymore they should move on naturally to something that they find more engaging. But I think that people systematically pointing this out, saying that they think it would be cool if Dan and Phil try to go a bit outside the box or explore other ideas is fair criticism and something I quite agree upon, and I think that it's objectively something most people tend to agree when speaking about Dan and Phil and their content both on the gaming channel and their individual channels. They are entertainers - their goal is to make people engaged and excited about each new video and if that doesn't happen then we can conclude that some people are losing interest not only because of the lack of novelty or excitement dizzy described but also because constant repetition of something that worked before doesn't mean that, just because the content hasn't objectively changed, the quality of the experience hasn't, and I think that is what counts.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that, true, the content hasn't changed, but I don't think that the ending of the 'honeymoon period' (though it's 100% real) is the only reason people lose interest . Sometimes people who have been watching someone's content for ages may progressively lose interest even if they had long lost their initial infatuation. I guess my question is whether it's the entertainer's roles - as people who aim to entertain the biggest amount of people possible - to adapt their content or if they don't have their responsability whatsoever and if it's merely the audience's role to adapt (or abandon) the 'fandom'.

I feel like I'm kind of going round in a circle and that my point doesn't really matter much unless there is a general disappointment in the audience rather than individual disappointment, but that's obviously hard to tell and anyways, I'd love to hear other thoughts, I'm a bit conflicted on this.

[alittledizzy]

I agree with the fact that Dan and Phil haven't changed their content and that we tend to lose interest after we get through our phase of being enthralled by the novelty of them. But I guess that's kind of the point? The fact that they keep repeating the same content and, as bolded, keep repeating the same jokes and same <kind of fakish> reactions is what makes people 'bored'.

I get that you could say that it's not Dan and Phil's jobs to make content that everyone will enjoy and that if someone does not like their content anymore they should move on naturally to something that they find more engaging. But I think that people systematically pointing this out, saying that they think it would be cool if Dan and Phil try to go a bit outside the box or explore other ideas is fair criticism and something I quite agree upon, and I think that it's objectively something most people tend to agree when speaking about Dan and Phil and their content both on the gaming channel and their individual channels. They are entertainers - their goal is to make people engaged and excited about each new video and if that doesn't happen then we can conclude that some people are losing interest not only because of the lack of novelty or excitement dizzy described but also because constant repetition of something that worked before doesn't mean that, just because the content hasn't objectively changed, the quality of the experience hasn't, and I think that is what counts.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that, true, the content hasn't changed, but I don't think that the ending of the 'honeymoon period' (though it's 100% real) is the only reason people lose interest . Sometimes people who have been watching someone's content for ages may progressively lose interest even if they had long lost their initial infatuation. I guess my question is whether it's the entertainer's roles - as people who aim to entertain the biggest amount of people possible - to adapt their content or if they don't have their responsability whatsoever and if it's merely the audience's role to adapt (or abandon) the 'fandom'.

I feel like I'm kind of going round in a circle and that my point doesn't really matter much unless there is a general disappointment in the audience rather than individual disappointment, but that's obviously hard to tell and anyways, I'd love to hear other thoughts, I'm a bit conflicted on this.

Oh man, I understand what you're saying but I disagree hard that there hasn't been any real change - Dan and Phil right now are almost not the same people that Dan and Phil of early 2016 are. In Dan's case, literally - he was danisnotonfire and now he no longer is. They're both more open and affectionate and relaxed with each other, their style of humor and reactions to jokes the other person makes has changed. Phil's humor is more adult and there's less feigned ignorance. Both of them freely reference male attraction now. Dan is more open about his mental health issues/anxieties. On a more personal level, they hide less of themselves and what they do together from us; the family trips, the selfies.

Maybe if you only started watching them in January of this year (not speaking to you specifically, just picking a month at random) and now it's June you feel like they are stagnant but no as someone who started in 2015, this current Dan and Phil is all about change. Even the fact that they post videos regularly is a sign of that change.

I suppose you have a point that gaming channel specifically content-wise hasn't changed, but why would it? It's a gaming channel. They will continue to making gaming videos because that is what it's for, there's no reason and not much room for them to adapt to new concepts. There is room for them to personally continue to change within the content, and that's what they absolutely have been doing.

(also coming back to edit and say I recognize there is some contradiction in my 'the content hasn't changed' comment from earlier - that was more looking at the perspective of someone who has only been a fan for a few months coming down from the initial high, which is a separate thing from them having been evolving over the past couple of years)

[xaephan]

Edit: I didn't realize the vid was already posted, since YT stuff is blocked on the network I'm on currently.

Re: getting bored with dnp
I always go through a super intense obsession phase with a new fandom for a month or two, and I think that period is nearing its end. I still enjoy their content and look forward to their stuff, but then again I haven't been a fan for all that long. I think a few months down the road, I would have exhausted all the backlog of dnp-related stuff (which is what fueled me for the last while; those 2009/2010 stuff sure have some gems), and dnp will just be another fandom I consume alongside my other ones, instead of it consuming all my time and attention.

I do think that they're evolving, not stagnating, though. Even compared to videos from the beginning of the year, there's marked differences in how they interact and the things they're allowing themselves to share on-camera and in social media. I do agree that some aspects of their particular brand of humour can get repetitive, but overall they're still entertaining to me. We'll see how I feel a few more months down the line

[George]

Everyone saying their content hasn't changed lately - did you see Dan's latest main channel video?