IDB

spider wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:I had my second TATINOF-related dream last night. Truly fanfiction-worthy. Someone help me., what are these two DOING to me?!! :wtf:

During TWL I dreamed about IDB 3 nights in a row. Not even Deppy. IDB.

I dreamed about IDB once. When I wake up and check IDB, I feel a little bit confuse of what is real and what is not.

spider wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:I had my second TATINOF-related dream last night. Truly fanfiction-worthy. Someone help me., what are these two DOING to me?!! :wtf:

During TWL I dreamed about IDB 3 nights in a row. Not even Deppy. IDB.

soon we will rule the world.

swofro wrote:I dreamed about IDB once. When I wake up and check IDB, I feel a little bit confuse of what is real and what is not.

The second night I dreamed TWL leaked outside of IDB. Woke up and bluebox-away had messaged to say it leaked. Not the dream I wanted to come true.

oqua wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

deerly wrote:Sorry if everyone's seen it already but I was stalking Dan's tumblr (as you do when you've got 3 papers to write amirite) and found this http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/1 ... ted-you-to
The deleted pic is

Not saying anything but this is interesting

Great find.
It's very interesting indeed. I can see it being played out like this.

Edit: Also I want to say, do you really think it played out like this SquishPhan (in terms of what Dan "wanted")? If so I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on their early relationship and how it evolved!

Edit 2: This goes for everyone, actually, not just SquishPhan -- I want to know what you all think about Deppy's relationship in the early days.

I didn't see this before I went to bed, so I will answer it now.
I think that in the beginning Dan just liked how weird and different Phil was. I think he felt attracted to this quirky, creative guy who was unapologetic about who he was. I don’t think that the plan from the very beginning was to sleep with Phil and certainly not to be in a relationship with him.
But clearly something attracted him to Phil, and I do think the fact that Phil is good looking was a factor. I will never know what he really wanted out of that relationship at the very beginning, maybe just recognition from someone he admired, and maybe he even dared to hope for friendship.
I think it wasn’t until they got to know each other a bit better, and were being all flirty that maybe the thought of sleeping with Phil seriously entered his mind. Still wanting to sleep with someone and wanting a to be in serious, committed relationship with someone are two different things. Maybe they did start off being friends with benefits, or maybe they talked and got to know each other so well that when they first met, they wanted more already. Maybe it all went so fast that before he knew it, Dan wanted Phil and didn’t want anyone else to have him. We all know he gets quite jealous, and that Phil was flirting with more people online back in the day.
I guess what I want to say is that I don’t think that Dan wanted to be in a relationship with Phil from day one, but when they got to know each other well and realized that they really liked each other that (quickly) changed.
This is not very coherent and I apologize, but it isn’t going to get better than it is right right now so I will post it anyway.

akui wrote: About the alcohol thing, christ it took me solid five minutes to remember that i wanted to talk about this. It's hard being a middle aged nose pervert. Anyway, apart from the young age, these kids probably also been brainwashed a lot by the "angel bean purest sunshine cinnamon roll" Phil, they got used to putting him on a pedestal and treat him like a Saint. In their minds he doesn't swear, he doesn't drink, he likes sweets and hugs plushie animal to go to sleep every night. While we are eagerly wanting to see Phil behave like a man of his age, these kids are perfectly satisfied with his over grown man boy peter pan persona. That's why this year before Phil's birthday ppl on tumblr are saying they can't accept the fact that Phil is turning 29. On the other hand Dan drinks and swears but nobody gives a shit because Dan isn't a cinnamon roll he is internet homo.

Btw can we quickly talk about how Phil's persona driven channel branding is seriously hurting the quality of his work? I couldn't help but notice that his last two videos are not quite as good as the videos on Caspar and Hazel's channel. As he is insisting on staying on persona, it's also a restriction on his creativity. Almost feel like he is censoring himself.

I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

timtam wrote:

akui wrote: About the alcohol thing, christ it took me solid five minutes to remember that i wanted to talk about this. It's hard being a middle aged nose pervert. Anyway, apart from the young age, these kids probably also been brainwashed a lot by the "angel bean purest sunshine cinnamon roll" Phil, they got used to putting him on a pedestal and treat him like a Saint. In their minds he doesn't swear, he doesn't drink, he likes sweets and hugs plushie animal to go to sleep every night. While we are eagerly wanting to see Phil behave like a man of his age, these kids are perfectly satisfied with his over grown man boy peter pan persona. That's why this year before Phil's birthday ppl on tumblr are saying they can't accept the fact that Phil is turning 29. On the other hand Dan drinks and swears but nobody gives a shit because Dan isn't a cinnamon roll he is internet homo.

Btw can we quickly talk about how Phil's persona driven channel branding is seriously hurting the quality of his work? I couldn't help but notice that his last two videos are not quite as good as the videos on Caspar and Hazel's channel. As he is insisting on staying on persona, it's also a restriction on his creativity. Almost feel like he is censoring himself.

I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

Lol yes. Dan's margarita blog.

http://fuckyeahmargaritas.tumblr.com

Dan won model, and Phil won others.

Dat accuracy.

oqua wrote:

timtam wrote:

akui wrote: About the alcohol thing, christ it took me solid five minutes to remember that i wanted to talk about this. It's hard being a middle aged nose pervert. Anyway, apart from the young age, these kids probably also been brainwashed a lot by the "angel bean purest sunshine cinnamon roll" Phil, they got used to putting him on a pedestal and treat him like a Saint. In their minds he doesn't swear, he doesn't drink, he likes sweets and hugs plushie animal to go to sleep every night. While we are eagerly wanting to see Phil behave like a man of his age, these kids are perfectly satisfied with his over grown man boy peter pan persona. That's why this year before Phil's birthday ppl on tumblr are saying they can't accept the fact that Phil is turning 29. On the other hand Dan drinks and swears but nobody gives a shit because Dan isn't a cinnamon roll he is internet homo.

Btw can we quickly talk about how Phil's persona driven channel branding is seriously hurting the quality of his work? I couldn't help but notice that his last two videos are not quite as good as the videos on Caspar and Hazel's channel. As he is insisting on staying on persona, it's also a restriction on his creativity. Almost feel like he is censoring himself.

I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

Lol yes. Dan's margarita blog.

http://fuckyeahmargaritas.tumblr.com

That just made my day. But what happened? One Tequila hangover too many?! Or did he just "forget his password"

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

oqua wrote:

timtam wrote:

akui wrote: About the alcohol thing, christ it took me solid five minutes to remember that i wanted to talk about this. It's hard being a middle aged nose pervert. Anyway, apart from the young age, these kids probably also been brainwashed a lot by the "angel bean purest sunshine cinnamon roll" Phil, they got used to putting him on a pedestal and treat him like a Saint. In their minds he doesn't swear, he doesn't drink, he likes sweets and hugs plushie animal to go to sleep every night. While we are eagerly wanting to see Phil behave like a man of his age, these kids are perfectly satisfied with his over grown man boy peter pan persona. That's why this year before Phil's birthday ppl on tumblr are saying they can't accept the fact that Phil is turning 29. On the other hand Dan drinks and swears but nobody gives a shit because Dan isn't a cinnamon roll he is internet homo.

Btw can we quickly talk about how Phil's persona driven channel branding is seriously hurting the quality of his work? I couldn't help but notice that his last two videos are not quite as good as the videos on Caspar and Hazel's channel. As he is insisting on staying on persona, it's also a restriction on his creativity. Almost feel like he is censoring himself.

I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

Lol yes. Dan's margarita blog.

http://fuckyeahmargaritas.tumblr.com

That just made my day. But what happened? One Tequila hangover too many?! Or did he just "forget his password"

I love how at the end of the second (and last!) post on the blog he says:

I literally have about 15 reviews ready to post now however, so look forward to more reviews coming soon! yay

Doesn't that sound familiar? Oh Dan.

oqua wrote:

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

oqua wrote:

timtam wrote:

akui wrote: About the alcohol thing, christ it took me solid five minutes to remember that i wanted to talk about this. It's hard being a middle aged nose pervert. Anyway, apart from the young age, these kids probably also been brainwashed a lot by the "angel bean purest sunshine cinnamon roll" Phil, they got used to putting him on a pedestal and treat him like a Saint. In their minds he doesn't swear, he doesn't drink, he likes sweets and hugs plushie animal to go to sleep every night. While we are eagerly wanting to see Phil behave like a man of his age, these kids are perfectly satisfied with his over grown man boy peter pan persona. That's why this year before Phil's birthday ppl on tumblr are saying they can't accept the fact that Phil is turning 29. On the other hand Dan drinks and swears but nobody gives a shit because Dan isn't a cinnamon roll he is internet homo.

Btw can we quickly talk about how Phil's persona driven channel branding is seriously hurting the quality of his work? I couldn't help but notice that his last two videos are not quite as good as the videos on Caspar and Hazel's channel. As he is insisting on staying on persona, it's also a restriction on his creativity. Almost feel like he is censoring himself.

I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

Lol yes. Dan's margarita blog.

http://fuckyeahmargaritas.tumblr.com

That just made my day. But what happened? One Tequila hangover too many?! Or did he just "forget his password"

I love how at the end of the second (and last!) post on the blog he says:

I literally have about 15 reviews ready to post now however, so look forward to more reviews coming soon! yay

Doesn't that sound familiar? Oh Dan.

Clearly he found religion wine. Tequila is evil. Eeeeeeeevil.

timtam wrote: I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

i cant speak about 2014 and before but since i started following them phil has mention alcohol casually many times. Not in the "i got wasted last night" way but more like a normal adult having his occasional drink. He made a main channel video(phil in the club) . Drinking was part of the message he tried to convey with this video. Maybe kids mistook it as "sunshine phil has never tasted alcohol"

he even said many times that he makes his own cocktails at home. Also they both appeared in louises and joeys vlogs with drinks in their hands (not trying to hide it or anything). actually i think dan was trying to hide his drink behind the pillow in this vlog.i dont know why,i always thought it was weird and kind of funny. Its from 2014

off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

danphil333 wrote:

timtam wrote: I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

i cant speak about 2014 and before but since i started following them phil has mention alcohol casually many times. Not in the "i got wasted last night" way but more like a normal adult having his occasional drink. He made a main channel video(phil in the club) . Drinking was part of the message he tried to convey with this video. Maybe kids mistook it as "sunshine phil has never tasted alcohol"

he even said many times that he makes his own cocktails at home. Also they both appeared in louises and joeys vlogs with drinks in their hands (not trying to hide it or anything).

6:50

6:05
]7:34

actually i think dan was trying to hide his drink behind the pillow in this vlog.i dont know why,i always thought it was weird. Its from 2014

4:42

Phil has mentioned it quite a few times, so I'm not sure why anybody would be surprised to hear that he drinks. I think he has also mentioned it in a few live shows, so he is definitely not hiding it.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:Clearly he found religion wine. Tequila is evil. Eeeeeeeevil.

That tumblr has given me life. I wish Dan carried on with it, not just two bloody posts what a surprise he didn't. typical Daniel

Tequila is only good in cocktails. Tequila Sunrise my favourite cocktail though.

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

That is weird, but I can't ever see giving up control like that. They want to be in control of everything, so having someone else on their twitter seems to me like a big no-no. Maybe they were talking to each other and liked it at the same time.

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

I don't see Dan or Phil giving up control of anything, except to each other. The simpler solution would be that they were talking (even if Phil's in FL/Dan's in the UK - twitter chat, fb chat, skype) and one of them found the account and showed the other, and they both followed it.

SquishPhan wrote:

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

That is weird, but I can't ever see giving up control like that. They want to be in control of everything, so having someone else on their twitter seems to me like a big no-no. Maybe they were talking to each other and liked it at the same time.

Is Dan in US now?

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

haven't people always said that they have each other on push notifications? so one could have just seen it & done the same /ehm... dan... probably... because you know.../

SquishPhan wrote:

danphil333 wrote:

timtam wrote: I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

i cant speak about 2014 and before but since i started following them phil has mention alcohol casually many times. Not in the "i got wasted last night" way but more like a normal adult having his occasional drink. He made a main channel video(phil in the club) . Drinking was part of the message he tried to convey with this video. Maybe kids mistook it as "sunshine phil has never tasted alcohol"

he even said many times that he makes his own cocktails at home. Also they both appeared in louises and joeys vlogs with drinks in their hands (not trying to hide it or anything).

6:50

6:05
]7:34

actually i think dan was trying to hide his drink behind the pillow in this vlog.i dont know why,i always thought it was weird. Its from 2014

4:42

Phil has mentioned it quite a few times, so I'm not sure why anybody would be surprised to hear that he drinks. I think he has also mentioned it in a few live shows, so he is definitely not hiding it.

I'd say that this is the same for D&P - their ls selves and their main channel selves often don't match up. Like sure, they're still the same people, but main channels tend to be far more persona-heavy and therefore only working within the realms of a few selected and hightened personality traits. Millions see the main channel videos whereas maybe a 100k people may see the liveshows/other people's vlogs esp. for them? That's the hardcore phandom. Their casual audience is far larger & they would not have seen/noticed most of these things.

wow you're really informed when it comes to dans handwriting :mrgreen:

alittledizzy wrote:

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

I don't see Dan or Phil giving up control of anything, except to each other. The simpler solution would be that they were talking (even if Phil's in FL/Dan's in the UK - twitter chat, fb chat, skype) and one of them found the account and showed the other, and they both followed it.

I thought about this too... but it doesn't seem to be very realistic... like i can't imagine them being on the phone or skype and simultaneously following an animal twitter account. lmao. idk it's just a little fishy to me. And I've seen people accuse phil's twitter of being a little too formulaic And I also remember Dan talking about header for dan (he was talking about his supposedly disastrous branding and layouts), and he said something along the lines of 'i'm glad the header for dan program is in place because it takes away the stress of having to worry about my twitter layout' and at the time i remember thinking it sounded as if he was talking about it being in someone else's control.
get your triangles out guys

phamnotof wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

danphil333 wrote:

timtam wrote: I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

i cant speak about 2014 and before but since i started following them phil has mention alcohol casually many times. Not in the "i got wasted last night" way but more like a normal adult having his occasional drink. He made a main channel video(phil in the club) . Drinking was part of the message he tried to convey with this video. Maybe kids mistook it as "sunshine phil has never tasted alcohol"

he even said many times that he makes his own cocktails at home. Also they both appeared in louises and joeys vlogs with drinks in their hands (not trying to hide it or anything).

I LOVE that vlog. They both just look so happy and proud and excited and ...yeah. All of the things!

clarinetupmyass wrote:

alittledizzy wrote:

clarinetupmyass wrote:off topic/may be irrelevant

This is a tweet showing twitter notifs for d&p... it seems they followed an account at the exact same time. This is making me wonder, do you think their team or management has any control over their twitter? Considering they aren't even in the same continent, yet even if they were... why on earth would they follow the same account at the exact same time? It just seems a little to me because this is suggesting that someone else is in control of their twitter accounts. If so, do you think this extends to fan replies/tweets/header for dans? Or am i reaching for the stars?

I don't see Dan or Phil giving up control of anything, except to each other. The simpler solution would be that they were talking (even if Phil's in FL/Dan's in the UK - twitter chat, fb chat, skype) and one of them found the account and showed the other, and they both followed it.

I thought about this too... but it doesn't seem to be very realistic... like i can't imagine them being on the phone or skype and simultaneously following an animal twitter account. lmao. idk it's just a little fishy to me. And I've seen people accuse phil's twitter of being a little too formulaic And I also remember Dan talking about header for dan (he was talking about his supposedly disastrous branding and layouts), and he said something along the lines of 'i'm glad the header for dan program is in place because it takes away the stress of having to worry about my twitter layout' and at the time i remember thinking it sounded as if he was talking about it being in someone else's control.

That they were talking and one of them said 'hey, look at this cute account' and they both followed it sounds WAY more realistic to me than someone from their management team deciding both accounts simultaniously need to follow an animal twitter. Like, why would they even do that? There's no company or #spon deal behind it. I can't figure out any reason why it would be so important that someone from their team would have to do it immediately.

Nah, him saying the header for dan program took the stress away means that he doesn't have to design a header for himself. He can just pick from the ones that fans submit, when they use #HeaderForDan.

IckleMissMayhem wrote:

phamnotof wrote:

SquishPhan wrote:

danphil333 wrote:

timtam wrote: I agree to a point. I also think they have been influenced by Phil's persona (I'm starting to hate that word). I'm a 22 year old woman who has plenty of experience with alcohol and have no problem with responsible drinking and yet I find the idea of Phil actually being drunk (as in properly drunk not one drink) to be so strange. These kids are definitely struggling to see their innocent cinnamon roll as a drinker and that's probably relatively natural (depending on the age) but Phil's persona hasn't helped. Has he ever mentioned alcohol or getting drunk ever?! Dan might be an internet homo but tumblr also thinks Dan is a cinnamon roll but have no problem with his drinking probably because he mentions it a bit. Didn't he used to have a cocktail review blog or something?!

can't believe I've used cinnamon roll as an adjective its too weird

i cant speak about 2014 and before but since i started following them phil has mention alcohol casually many times. Not in the "i got wasted last night" way but more like a normal adult having his occasional drink. He made a main channel video(phil in the club) . Drinking was part of the message he tried to convey with this video. Maybe kids mistook it as "sunshine phil has never tasted alcohol"

he even said many times that he makes his own cocktails at home. Also they both appeared in louises and joeys vlogs with drinks in their hands (not trying to hide it or anything).

I LOVE that vlog. They both just look so happy and proud and excited and ...yeah. All of the things!

They legit look like a power couple there.

those notifications don't just come through if people follow someone at exactly the same time, it's just if they follow close to the same time. if one saw it, shared with the other who then followed it, the notification would still come through