Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

[NoOneWantsATortoise]

Sherlock side of idb , what's on Phil's left arm that looks like a tattoo?

[howadorableright]

Sherlock side of idb , what's on Phil's left arm that looks like a tattoo?

also why is dan wearing sunglasses in every picture, even inside

420 was last month smh

[xaephan]

Sherlock side of idb , what's on Phil's left arm that looks like a tattoo?

I'm 99% sure that's just a bag Cornelia is wearing on one shoulder.

also why is dan wearing sunglasses in every picture, even inside
420 was last month smh

I think the sunglasses + fingers on chin is his new peace sign haha. He's going the 'sophisticated' route instead of the 'ironic' one apparently! Pretentious hipster Daniel rebrand complete.

[obliviongrace]

Damn , they looked like the had fun!
i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

Yes! I wanted to pop back in to add that I noticed that! It was interesting, bc of course we are used to Dan and Phil being next to each other in every photo, so when they weren't in the group one it actually caught me off guard, and I had to look at it for a moment and was like...why....? And then I realized that they all had their arms around each other, so perhaps it was to avoid the panic that that kind of touching could potentially cause. But then also, couldn't they just have taken the picture without their arms around each other? Isn't switching places a lot of work to avoid that? Or is that work they would happily put in because they are so self-aware? Who know, I am always self-conscious that I am overthinking things with them. But, yes, that was my first thought as well, and my first reaction was also

EDIT: wait, no, THIS is why they weren't next to each other: http://nihilist-toothpaste.tumblr.com/p ... that-group

[sugar]

next thought after getting over the cuteness: when will dan stop wearing long sleeves/JACKETS in florida??? i'm from the northeast and it was like 80 today i can only imagine how he felt in those clothes in florida...

[alittledizzy]

Hey so I've been finishing up with finals in school so I haven't had time recently to read the forum! However, I did follow along through Bahamas-gate and I have to say bravo to all you detectives for figuring everything out. So, not to break up the convo about the new video (which I absolutely adored by the way) but I just read something that reminded me of Dan and Phil. It's going to be quite long so I'm going to hide it with this little button or whatever.

So, there is this youtube duo (who are also in an acapella group called Pentatonix) named Superfruit. The two guys names are Scott and Mitch, and many fans ship them together. I think they are hilarious and incredibly talented, and their friendship actually has always reminded me of Dan and Phil's (besides the fact that Scott and Mitch are both openly gay). Ex: They both have been best friends for years, they both live together.
There are, however, some differences. For instance Scott and Mitch have both dated several people in the past few years, and they both acknowledge that they are not together romantically (though, they have referred to themselves as soulmates). Anyway, long story longer, Superfruit released a book not too long ago with a ton of pictures/stories. It was very expensive so it took me awhile to get my hands on it but I just read a part where they acknowledge the fact they actually had a sexual and romantic past with each other. They briefly dated in 2009 and then tried hooking up in 2011. I'm gonna type up parts of the passage for context:

I started developing a huge crush on Mitch and wanted to be around him all the time. He and I started iChatting every day after school. We started dating, but Mitch dumped me pretty shortly after. Looking back I'm not sure our friendship could've survived if we had dove into a serious relationship so young, so now I'm ironically thankful it happened and very glad we are just friends.
Two years later we attempted to casually hook up. For some reason, though, our chemistry had gone from "high school sweetheart" to "almost sibling". We both felt it and stopped after a couple minutes. A year later we moved in together and quickly became extremely close. Definitely the closest we've ever been. I never felt more on the same page with any human as much as I do with Mitch. Mitch and I were the only band members that insisted on rooming together even though we could easily afford separate rooms at this point. We are proof you can be best friends after a relationship ends.

(This is not verbatim what the book says, I basically put all the important sentences that are relevant to this post and put them together since a lot of the sentences were scattered throughout both Scott and Mitch describing their career).

Anyway, does this remind you of anyone? Lol, I read it and the whole time couldn't stop thinking about . I don't know, I love a good "are they or are they not" discussion so that's why I thought this info was interesting because Scott and Mitch are two Youtubers who are shipped by a large portion of their fans, who actually did have a romantic/sexual relationship, but we simply had no idea about it because they just never shared it with us. When it comes to Phan, I am a huge flip flopper- one day in my mind there is no WAY Deppy aren't together, the next- I convince myself I need to get my head out of the fantasy world, there is no way they would be able to hide it for so many years. I know that all of this information is relative, that every friendship is different and complex and that Scott and Mitch's relationship doesn't actually necessarily affect any person's perception of Dan and Phil's relationship- but I thought the similarities between them were striking enough to post here and see if anyone had any speculation to add. While taking the Dan and Phil survey this year, I noticed one of the options was "Dan and Phil dated in the past, but broke up and are just best friends now". I always dismissed this possibility because I thought there was no way two guys could hook up and then remain living together and be best friends, but here I am being proved wrong. Of course, Dan and Phil have not expressed their sexuality (since like 2009 on Formspring), have not had significant others (that we know of but I mean, come on, not a lot gets past this fandom ), and they have not acknowledged in the past 5 years that they are not actually romantically/sexually involved- unlike Scott and Mitch. Okay, I'm gonna stop now because I could go on for ages.

TLDR: I'm absolute trash and accidentally just psychoanalyzed Dan and Phil friendship.

Thanks for reading my word vomit.

*back to lurking forever*

This was a really interesting post, thank you for sharing! I think the early parallels could probably be there and might mean more if not for all the context that you mentioned in your last few paragraphs... tbh if deppy had gone the Scott and Mitch route people would trust them a lot more, I think, because Scott and Mitch have been open and vocal about how they aren't together, and had public other partners. I know they have a big fandom but as someone on the outside, who was also on the outside of phandom for years, I can say that I got an object view of the opinion of both fandoms and... Superfruit fans, as a general majority, don't have nearly the reputation for pervasive belief that Scott and Mitch are actually together that phandom does Dan and Phil.

Scott and Mitch are, if anything, proof that if Dan and Phil really aren't together they'd have been way better off just casually reiterating it every few months so beliefs otherwise never gained massive traction. Would they still be shipped? Absolutely, Scott and Mitch definitely are. Would it be like it is now? Nope, don't think so.

[xaephan]

next thought after getting over the cuteness: when will dan stop wearing long sleeves/JACKETS in florida??? i'm from the northeast and it was like 80 today i can only imagine how he felt in those clothes in florida...

nihilist-toothpaste had a pretty good point about the clothes on tumblr--it's probably because Dan didn't plan on being on vacation with the Lesters, so he didn't really pack enough clothes in general, and especially not for extended outdoors activities. We've seen him in the same few lighter long-sleeves, which makes sense if he was packing primarily for the con--since his old place didn't have A/C so he's probably not used to it, his choices made sense for the cold air blasting indoors.

I think it's a good point towards explaining the Bahama mystery. His passport definitely looked more like "May 10th" than "May 18th" to me, and getting (activating?) another visa would explain the two-hour trip. His lack of packing and hinting towards alone time in the last LS also plays into it.

[autumnhearth]

Hey so I've been finishing up with finals in school so I haven't had time recently to read the forum! However, I did follow along through Bahamas-gate and I have to say bravo to all you detectives for figuring everything out. So, not to break up the convo about the new video (which I absolutely adored by the way) but I just read something that reminded me of Dan and Phil. It's going to be quite long so I'm going to hide it with this little button or whatever.

So, there is this youtube duo (who are also in an acapella group called Pentatonix) named Superfruit. The two guys names are Scott and Mitch, and many fans ship them together. I think they are hilarious and incredibly talented, and their friendship actually has always reminded me of Dan and Phil's (besides the fact that Scott and Mitch are both openly gay). Ex: They both have been best friends for years, they both live together.
There are, however, some differences. For instance Scott and Mitch have both dated several people in the past few years, and they both acknowledge that they are not together romantically (though, they have referred to themselves as soulmates). Anyway, long story longer, Superfruit released a book not too long ago with a ton of pictures/stories. It was very expensive so it took me awhile to get my hands on it but I just read a part where they acknowledge the fact they actually had a sexual and romantic past with each other. They briefly dated in 2009 and then tried hooking up in 2011. I'm gonna type up parts of the passage for context:

I started developing a huge crush on Mitch and wanted to be around him all the time. He and I started iChatting every day after school. We started dating, but Mitch dumped me pretty shortly after. Looking back I'm not sure our friendship could've survived if we had dove into a serious relationship so young, so now I'm ironically thankful it happened and very glad we are just friends.
Two years later we attempted to casually hook up. For some reason, though, our chemistry had gone from "high school sweetheart" to "almost sibling". We both felt it and stopped after a couple minutes. A year later we moved in together and quickly became extremely close. Definitely the closest we've ever been. I never felt more on the same page with any human as much as I do with Mitch. Mitch and I were the only band members that insisted on rooming together even though we could easily afford separate rooms at this point. We are proof you can be best friends after a relationship ends.

(This is not verbatim what the book says, I basically put all the important sentences that are relevant to this post and put them together since a lot of the sentences were scattered throughout both Scott and Mitch describing their career).

Anyway, does this remind you of anyone? Lol, I read it and the whole time couldn't stop thinking about . I don't know, I love a good "are they or are they not" discussion so that's why I thought this info was interesting because Scott and Mitch are two Youtubers who are shipped by a large portion of their fans, who actually did have a romantic/sexual relationship, but we simply had no idea about it because they just never shared it with us. When it comes to Phan, I am a huge flip flopper- one day in my mind there is no WAY Deppy aren't together, the next- I convince myself I need to get my head out of the fantasy world, there is no way they would be able to hide it for so many years. I know that all of this information is relative, that every friendship is different and complex and that Scott and Mitch's relationship doesn't actually necessarily affect any person's perception of Dan and Phil's relationship- but I thought the similarities between them were striking enough to post here and see if anyone had any speculation to add. While taking the Dan and Phil survey this year, I noticed one of the options was "Dan and Phil dated in the past, but broke up and are just best friends now". I always dismissed this possibility because I thought there was no way two guys could hook up and then remain living together and be best friends, but here I am being proved wrong. Of course, Dan and Phil have not expressed their sexuality (since like 2009 on Formspring), have not had significant others (that we know of but I mean, come on, not a lot gets past this fandom ), and they have not acknowledged in the past 5 years that they are not actually romantically/sexually involved- unlike Scott and Mitch. Okay, I'm gonna stop now because I could go on for ages.

TLDR: I'm absolute trash and accidentally just psychoanalyzed Dan and Phil friendship.

That is really, really interesting. Personally, I don't want to believe that is the case with but it's interesting to know that is a genuine healthy dynamic for some people.

Yay NASA! I haven't been to Cape Canaveral, but the local NASA Glenn Research Center had an open house this past summer and it was pretty awesome.

Is the jumper like a security blanket for Dan? Yes, I suppose it's a tad Star Trekish, but these are more Star Wars boys.

[captainspacecoat]

1. I adored the new gaming video, their dynamic while working together is so fascinating to me and as much as that game makes me stressed it's one of my favourite things they play. They seem to genuinely enjoy it, and I agree with others who have said Phil explaining the symbols in the most obscure way and Dan immediately knowing what he's talking about is just the absolute best. And god that intro was cute, they really do seem giddy with happiness lately, it's lovely to watch.

2. Those photos Dan posted!! He was definitely not obligated to include a pic including M&C but he did, and my heart is so warm Lovely, lovely pics and I hope they are having the best time in Florida. They look like such a family, and the one of dnp is such a daggy dad pose, I love it.

i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

Yes! I wanted to pop back in to add that I noticed that! It was interesting, bc of course we are used to Dan and Phil being next to each other in every photo, so when they weren't in the group one it actually caught me off guard, and I had to look at it for a moment and was like...why....? And then I realized that they all had their arms around each other, so perhaps it was to avoid the panic that that kind of touching could potentially cause. But then also, couldn't they just have taken the picture without their arms around each other? Isn't switching places a lot of work to avoid that? Or is that work they would happily put in because they are so self-aware? Who know, I am always self-conscious that I am overthinking things with them. But, yes, that was my first thought as well, and my first reaction was also

I disagree that there's anything weird about them not standing next to each other in that pic. I really don't think it's that deep tbh, they clearly don't have a problem being pictured in close proximity together given everything else they've shared with us lately so I feel like that's just the natural position they were all in. Martyn and Cornelia aren't standing next to each other either - is there anything weird about that? If anything the fact that none of them are standing directly next to their significant other just further demonstrates how integrated their family dynamic is and how well they all get along with one another.

[malday]

i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

Yes! I wanted to pop back in to add that I noticed that! It was interesting, bc of course we are used to Dan and Phil being next to each other in every photo, so when they weren't in the group one it actually caught me off guard, and I had to look at it for a moment and was like...why....? And then I realized that they all had their arms around each other, so perhaps it was to avoid the panic that that kind of touching could potentially cause. But then also, couldn't they just have taken the picture without their arms around each other? Isn't switching places a lot of work to avoid that? Or is that work they would happily put in because they are so self-aware? Who know, I am always self-conscious that I am overthinking things with them. But, yes, that was my first thought as well, and my first reaction was also

I disagree that there's anything weird about them not standing next to each other in that pic. I really don't think it's that deep tbh, they clearly don't have a problem being pictured in close proximity together given everything else they've shared with us lately so I feel like that's just the natural position they were all in. Martyn and Cornelia aren't standing next to each other either - is there anything weird about that? If anything the fact that none of them are standing directly next to their significant other just further demonstrates how integrated their family dynamic is and how well they all get along with one another.

I was half joking, but you can't deny if they would have stood in that order (both couples next to eachother with their arms like that) it would have driven the phandom even more crazy.

[obliviongrace]

I disagree that there's anything weird about them not standing next to each other in that pic. I really don't think it's that deep tbh, they clearly don't have a problem being pictured in close proximity together given everything else they've shared with us lately so I feel like that's just the natural position they were all in. Martyn and Cornelia aren't standing next to each other either - is there anything weird about that? If anything the fact that none of them are standing directly next to their significant other just further demonstrates how integrated their family dynamic is and how well they all get along with one another.

This is the thought that was in the back of my mind after my first reaction of them avoid an arms-around-each-other situation. So, I think that's totally legit too. And I often appreciate the reminder that's it's not that deep because I will often go too deep in the hole, since sometimes it seems as though it is that deep with deppy, with their hint dropping, and it can be difficult for me to tell the difference sometimes. (What's the phrase? Phan goggles being on too tight? )

[captainspacecoat]

This is the thought that was in the back of my mind after my first reaction of them avoid an arms-around-each-other situation. So, I think that's totally legit too. And I often appreciate the reminder that's it's not that deep because I will often go too deep in the hole, since sometimes it seems as though it is that deep with deppy, with their hint dropping, and it can be difficult for me to tell the difference sometimes. (What's the phrase? Phan goggles being on too tight? )

Haha don't worry, I know exactly what you mean, mine are perpetually on too tight too!! You're very right, you never can be too sure with dnp as to whether or not they're dropping hints all over the place!

I was half joking, but you can't deny if they would have stood in that order (both couples next to eachother with their arms like that) it would have driven the phandom even more crazy.

Fair point! I hadn't considered that, but I definitely think you're right that the reaction would have been even more extreme if they had done that.

[anime_is_not_cool]

I think the sunglasses + fingers on chin is his new peace sign haha. He's going the 'sophisticated' route instead of the 'ironic' one apparently! Pretentious hipster Daniel rebrand complete.

this is pretty much an useless post but i can't live without mentioning it like everyone else has already done... i love his pretentious hipster -branding and that new pose so much dan's social media posts have always felt fake and off-putting (and his videos, but tbh i understand it, because videos can be emotionally so much scarier and harder to make, especially for an overthinker like daniel) at least for me. like actually wanting to make me unfollow even tho i don't dislike him as a person. and now he seems so real and confident and happy?? it feels weird to look at his instagram pics from let's say 8 months ago. the rebrand has changed so many things and it really looks like he is finally doing what he actually wants, and doesn't chicken out from doing things he wants using humour anymore. i didn't think branding would actually ever a) happen b) actually change anything, but here we are!

[secretagentphan]

Okay Deppy totally eased everyone into Dan being on vacation with the Lesters just like the new apartment. They are acting even more coupley lately and this is the closest I've ever been to being 100% sure they are in a relationship. It's to the point now that if they aren't then they must be purposely acting like it and leading the phandom on for other motives. Yes they have never done anything explicitly romantic (technically) but they know how their fan base picks up on things. And tbh that doesn't sound like them so I'm very close to being convinced phan is real. I'm waiting for something as nohomo as bedgate to bring me down but it hasn't happened yet *knock on wood* and they had plenty of opportunities (they have separate rooms in the new house but for some reason their approach didn't come across as no homo at all to me).

Especially after Dan's talk about trying to make the way people perceive him as his true self. That came across as someone who had been in the closet for so long and finally realized that it was making him less happy and more suppressed. What they're doing now is a great compromise between making a huge deal and going out of their way to lie about phan. Idk I'm half asleep this probably makes no sense lol.

[scientia]

As for the endscreen annotations, I did a simple search and found the translation - maybe someone can correct it if it's wrong?

AmazingPhil

.--. .... .. .-.. (Phil)

Daniel Howell

-.. .--. (DP) ???

[saffarinda]

next thought after getting over the cuteness: when will dan stop wearing long sleeves/JACKETS in florida??? i'm from the northeast and it was like 80 today i can only imagine how he felt in those clothes in florida...

nihilist-toothpaste had a pretty good point about the clothes on tumblr--it's probably because Dan didn't plan on being on vacation with the Lesters, so he didn't really pack enough clothes in general, and especially not for extended outdoors activities. We've seen him in the same few lighter long-sleeves, which makes sense if he was packing primarily for the con--since his old place didn't have A/C so he's probably not used to it, his choices made sense for the cold air blasting indoors.

I think it's a good point towards explaining the Bahama mystery. His passport definitely looked more like "May 10th" than "May 18th" to me, and getting (activating?) another visa would explain the two-hour trip. His lack of packing and hinting towards alone time in the last LS also plays into it.

Wait, are you sure they didn't plan this - I don't know how likely it is that they decided to film videos in advance to put up without the knowledge that Dan was going with the Lester's. I'm leaning more towards there was a project for him in the Bahama's.

[saffarinda]

Hey so I've been finishing up with finals in school so I haven't had time recently to read the forum! However, I did follow along through Bahamas-gate and I have to say bravo to all you detectives for figuring everything out. So, not to break up the convo about the new video (which I absolutely adored by the way) but I just read something that reminded me of Dan and Phil. It's going to be quite long so I'm going to hide it with this little button or whatever.

So, there is this youtube duo (who are also in an acapella group called Pentatonix) named Superfruit. The two guys names are Scott and Mitch, and many fans ship them together. I think they are hilarious and incredibly talented, and their friendship actually has always reminded me of Dan and Phil's (besides the fact that Scott and Mitch are both openly gay). Ex: They both have been best friends for years, they both live together.
There are, however, some differences. For instance Scott and Mitch have both dated several people in the past few years, and they both acknowledge that they are not together romantically (though, they have referred to themselves as soulmates). Anyway, long story longer, Superfruit released a book not too long ago with a ton of pictures/stories. It was very expensive so it took me awhile to get my hands on it but I just read a part where they acknowledge the fact they actually had a sexual and romantic past with each other. They briefly dated in 2009 and then tried hooking up in 2011. I'm gonna type up parts of the passage for context:

I started developing a huge crush on Mitch and wanted to be around him all the time. He and I started iChatting every day after school. We started dating, but Mitch dumped me pretty shortly after. Looking back I'm not sure our friendship could've survived if we had dove into a serious relationship so young, so now I'm ironically thankful it happened and very glad we are just friends.
Two years later we attempted to casually hook up. For some reason, though, our chemistry had gone from "high school sweetheart" to "almost sibling". We both felt it and stopped after a couple minutes. A year later we moved in together and quickly became extremely close. Definitely the closest we've ever been. I never felt more on the same page with any human as much as I do with Mitch. Mitch and I were the only band members that insisted on rooming together even though we could easily afford separate rooms at this point. We are proof you can be best friends after a relationship ends.

(This is not verbatim what the book says, I basically put all the important sentences that are relevant to this post and put them together since a lot of the sentences were scattered throughout both Scott and Mitch describing their career).

Anyway, does this remind you of anyone? Lol, I read it and the whole time couldn't stop thinking about . I don't know, I love a good "are they or are they not" discussion so that's why I thought this info was interesting because Scott and Mitch are two Youtubers who are shipped by a large portion of their fans, who actually did have a romantic/sexual relationship, but we simply had no idea about it because they just never shared it with us. When it comes to Phan, I am a huge flip flopper- one day in my mind there is no WAY Deppy aren't together, the next- I convince myself I need to get my head out of the fantasy world, there is no way they would be able to hide it for so many years. I know that all of this information is relative, that every friendship is different and complex and that Scott and Mitch's relationship doesn't actually necessarily affect any person's perception of Dan and Phil's relationship- but I thought the similarities between them were striking enough to post here and see if anyone had any speculation to add. While taking the Dan and Phil survey this year, I noticed one of the options was "Dan and Phil dated in the past, but broke up and are just best friends now". I always dismissed this possibility because I thought there was no way two guys could hook up and then remain living together and be best friends, but here I am being proved wrong. Of course, Dan and Phil have not expressed their sexuality (since like 2009 on Formspring), have not had significant others (that we know of but I mean, come on, not a lot gets past this fandom ), and they have not acknowledged in the past 5 years that they are not actually romantically/sexually involved- unlike Scott and Mitch. Okay, I'm gonna stop now because I could go on for ages.

TLDR: I'm absolute trash and accidentally just psychoanalyzed Dan and Phil friendship.

Thanks for reading my word vomit.

*back to lurking forever*

When the Scott and Mitch thing happened the first thing I thought of was Dan and Phil aha. With the "No way two guys could hookup and remian friends", the one reason I've always been slightly inclined to it is because that's what I did with one of my friends. We briefly dated before deciding that we valued our friendship too much and wouldn't want it to be ruined if something went wrong in the relationship - because of that I could see Dan and Phil dating at the beginning before deciding they were too close to risk it (I constantly flip with Phan too, lmao)

[jesuisunèléve]

This is the thought that was in the back of my mind after my first reaction of them avoid an arms-around-each-other situation. So, I think that's totally legit too. And I often appreciate the reminder that's it's not that deep because I will often go too deep in the hole, since sometimes it seems as though it is that deep with deppy, with their hint dropping, and it can be difficult for me to tell the difference sometimes. (What's the phrase? Phan goggles being on too tight? )

Haha don't worry, I know exactly what you mean, mine are perpetually on too tight too!! You're very right, you never can be too sure with dnp as to whether or not they're dropping hints all over the place!

I was half joking, but you can't deny if they would have stood in that order (both couples next to eachother with their arms like that) it would have driven the phandom even more crazy.

Fair point! I hadn't considered that, but I definitely think you're right that the reaction would have been even more extreme if they had done that.

Note how Dan's arm is not around Martyn, but is on the other side of the fence.

[readingmama]

This is the thought that was in the back of my mind after my first reaction of them avoid an arms-around-each-other situation. So, I think that's totally legit too. And I often appreciate the reminder that's it's not that deep because I will often go too deep in the hole, since sometimes it seems as though it is that deep with deppy, with their hint dropping, and it can be difficult for me to tell the difference sometimes. (What's the phrase? Phan goggles being on too tight? )

Haha don't worry, I know exactly what you mean, mine are perpetually on too tight too!! You're very right, you never can be too sure with dnp as to whether or not they're dropping hints all over the place!

I was half joking, but you can't deny if they would have stood in that order (both couples next to eachother with their arms like that) it would have driven the phandom even more crazy.

Fair point! I hadn't considered that, but I definitely think you're right that the reaction would have been even more extreme if they had done that.

Note how Dan's arm is not around Martyn, but is on the other side of the fence.

I noticed this too and I also noticed that there seems to be a bit of an awkwardness to the facial expressions in the picture but I think that is part of what I am enjoying about it- it seems very much like one of those group photos that are taken where no one is quite sure what to do with themselves but it needs to be taken for the memories. Is the consensus that one of the Lester parents took that pic? Don't get me wrong- they are clearly comfortable together as a group but I got a bit of a " stand over there and smile for the camera" vibe that makes me appreciate even more that Dan is the one who posted it!

As far as the gaming video, I am really loving the happiness that is present in all their videos lately. They are so in tune with each other and just enjoying life. It makes me very

[dontpanic]

i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

Yes! I wanted to pop back in to add that I noticed that! It was interesting, bc of course we are used to Dan and Phil being next to each other in every photo, so when they weren't in the group one it actually caught me off guard, and I had to look at it for a moment and was like...why....? And then I realized that they all had their arms around each other, so perhaps it was to avoid the panic that that kind of touching could potentially cause. But then also, couldn't they just have taken the picture without their arms around each other? Isn't switching places a lot of work to avoid that? Or is that work they would happily put in because they are so self-aware? Who know, I am always self-conscious that I am overthinking things with them. But, yes, that was my first thought as well, and my first reaction was also

I disagree that there's anything weird about them not standing next to each other in that pic. I really don't think it's that deep tbh, they clearly don't have a problem being pictured in close proximity together given everything else they've shared with us lately so I feel like that's just the natural position they were all in. Martyn and Cornelia aren't standing next to each other either - is there anything weird about that? If anything the fact that none of them are standing directly next to their significant other just further demonstrates how integrated their family dynamic is and how well they all get along with one another.

I was half joking, but you can't deny if they would have stood in that order (both couples next to eachother with their arms like that) it would have driven the phandom even more crazy.

When I first saw the pic it looked like dan had his hand on martyn's booty, which would bring a whole new light to their family dynamics...

Also I love how Cornelia is like half their height, I always forget Martyn is super tall as well.

[SquishPhan]

Those pics Dan shared are super cute, glad to see them having a good time.

i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

Yes! I wanted to pop back in to add that I noticed that! It was interesting, bc of course we are used to Dan and Phil being next to each other in every photo, so when they weren't in the group one it actually caught me off guard, and I had to look at it for a moment and was like...why....? And then I realized that they all had their arms around each other, so perhaps it was to avoid the panic that that kind of touching could potentially cause. But then also, couldn't they just have taken the picture without their arms around each other? Isn't switching places a lot of work to avoid that? Or is that work they would happily put in because they are so self-aware? Who know, I am always self-conscious that I am overthinking things with them. But, yes, that was my first thought as well, and my first reaction was also

I disagree that there's anything weird about them not standing next to each other in that pic. I really don't think it's that deep tbh, they clearly don't have a problem being pictured in close proximity together given everything else they've shared with us lately so I feel like that's just the natural position they were all in. Martyn and Cornelia aren't standing next to each other either - is there anything weird about that? If anything the fact that none of them are standing directly next to their significant other just further demonstrates how integrated their family dynamic is and how well they all get along with one another.

Totally agree with this.

[DatCog]

Ahhhh how wonderful to wake up to these photos! I love that they were all geeking out at NASA...I've been to Florida twice and both times we went to Kennedy and it was a highlight of our holiday, such a fascinating place.

This family holiday has got me to about 99.5% convinced now!

[Flomy]

As for the endscreen annotations, I did a simple search and found the translation - maybe someone can correct it if it's wrong?

AmazingPhil

.--. .... .. .-.. (Phil)

Daniel Howell

-.. .--. (DP) ???

I think it says "Dan", there's a space between .- (a) and -. (n).

[phanofcats]

These pictures were such a lovely thing to wake up to They look like such a couple in their selfie and the family photo!! I did not expect this! They are such a good looking family too As for deppy not being beside each other, I didn't find to weird at all. Didn't think about it really. It was probably just how they were already standing and someone wanted a picture. But the fact that Dan posted it made me even happier

[capybantsa]

(multiple pictures, scroll through with the arrows)

Damn , they looked like the had fun!
i like how they put Martyn between them so they don't have their hands around eachother

My seeing the 5th picture:
And here we see the homo sapien female has successfully infiltrated a clan of giants.