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holy shit. phil's a hottie.

Holy mother of f*ck is he hot. Channeling James Dean again too in that outfit with the quiff.

My god he looks so good my heart skipped a bit. Thank you Phil for sharing and thank you Dan for 100% taking the picture you're truly giving the people what they want

I'm loving for the confidence Phil is showing since the beginning of the year. I don't know if its just the hair but damn I'm so here for it

SquishPhan wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:36 pm

Looking good.

we are finally getting some good non-selfies phil pics, about time you gave the people what they want dan!!
i love phil a lot

(also earlier I was thinking about how so far, I really don't mind having less videos in exchange for the abudance of mundane personal and domestic content ! I mean I know it's just the beginning of the tour but the next few months are shaping up to be pretty cool deppy-wise)

Phil changed his icon. We're so blessed.

Phil has just been looking so good lately. Who knew all that hotness and confidence was hidden under that damn fringe for so long?

Catallena wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:11 pm Phil changed his icon. We're so blessed.

Phil has just been looking so good lately. Who knew all that hotness and confidence was hidden under that damn fringe for so long?

And it matches II and his banner on twitter so well. He should change it on his Instagram too. Also Dan needs a color coordinating icon

Speedygonz33 wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Catallena wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:11 pm Phil changed his icon. We're so blessed.

Phil has just been looking so good lately. Who knew all that hotness and confidence was hidden under that damn fringe for so long?

And it matches II and his banner on twitter so well. He should change it on his Instagram too. Also Dan needs a color coordinating icon

Dan wouldn't know what a nice and satisfying layout looked like even if it bit him in the arse

apparently dan was one of the first to like his pic, amazing.
phil is so damn beautiful and looks so mature. he's just so handsome, ugh!! We're All Phillies In This House Tonight. what a lad.

(sorry for putting parts under spoilers! my whole post got way too long procrastination does that to ppl)

ame wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 am

alright, im gunna haveta stretch my typing fingers because this is going to be a long read...
im sure many of you have pointed it out already - mister daniel is quite a natural when it comes to interacting with babies. i guess it comes from his innate love of children or from experience or BOTH, but it gave me such a glee watching how he lovingly holds little pearl in his arms and just being very gentle with her. i think he got the basics down honestly: he maintains level eye contact when talking to her, talks to her clearly, shows an expressive face and a warm smile, knows how to hold her PROPERLY....gee i could go on and on. i definitely think that hes a capable caregiver when he puts his mind into it. yet if hes so capable, why did louise end up choosing phil over dan to take care of pearl?

her reasoning was that phil would be "less terrified and deal with situations better" which is very interesting. phil has said on many occasions that babies "seem" to hate him. ive already dropped my two cents in this in that i do think its just his inexperience on interacting with babies, that and his inner panic is reflecting towards the baby in question. from my experience, children are very sensitive to subtle facial expressions and overall body language thats why in a moment of crisis, you must do your GODDAMN best to act calm because if you panic, then EVERYONE panics. i agree with what @watsonian said about dan preventing the "phil-exposure tears" lol. dan, being the baby whisperer, made sure pearl knew she was in safe hands, and at the same time, reminding phil that its alright.

anyways, i do think that phil has a potential to be a good parent/caregiver - he just needs to let go of his insecurity and belief that all babies hate him. because 1) everyone can be insecure towards handling and interacting with kids, no matter how experienced you are (heck i still get scared sometimes when babies im feeding start to cough because i FOR SURE dont wanna do baby cpr even tho i know how and is qualified, its still hella scary) and 2) babies have different personalities and comfort zones. some babies are just naturally sociable and some take time, and its all good. they dont cry because of phil, they cry because they probably dont know him yet. like louise said, phil seems to know how to deal with situations whenever it arises. yes, he may panic but i have a feeling that its a productive kind of panic. the most recent example i could think of was when dan almost blinded himself. i dont know how accurate dan's anecdote is, but phil seemed to know how to convert his "stress" adrenaline into "lets get shit done" adrenaline. he didnt just sit there and panic with him, he actively sought out help (googled what to do next) and assisted dan whenever he can (immediately told dan to wash it out again, helped him with the eye drops). in moments of stressful situations or emergencies, sometimes its inevitable to freeze but knowing how tosnap out of it and make use of the adrenaline rush to your own benefit is a good skill to have. tldr; phil is a reliable person, he just needs to believe in himself more.

and i think this is where louise was getting at. sure, dan is good with babies but he can also be pretty careless at times (reasons why dans a fail™ yay). phil seems to be the one to handle situations much better - and when youre working with kids, honey, theres gunna be a LOT of those. however, like phil said, he can be quite clumsy.....but thats where dan comes in. its a perfect balance.

I'm on team "Deppy and Louise aren't irl friends but rather the youtuber version of close work friends." I always contrast it with their relationship with PJ, who's more of an irl friend than a YouTube friend... Deppy only divulge small details about their interactions with PJ because most of their hangouts are friends-doing-friend-things. Louise, comparatively, never hangs out with Deppy unless she's making a collab or featuring them in a vlog. She admitted in one video that she rarely texts Dan, so it's not like they keep in touch often outside of what we see.

Anyway, my point is that imo Louise knows their "on camera" personas a bit better than their irl comfortable selves. She wouldn't know that Phil gets anxious a lot or that Dan has more experience with babies, etc. Dan, from what I see, directs most of his anxiety inwardly--he cares about what other people think of him, whereas Phil channels his anxiety externally, being more insecure and anxious about how others are feeling, almost to a fault (I would usually back this up with examples but i'm sorry i'm just too exhausted to function... something about an experience they had in a movie theater comes to mind?). Dan seems careless only when it comes to his own well-being, I can't think of any examples of him being careless elsewhere (*cough*I'm team "it's Phil's fault for their vidcon plane fiasco"*cough*).

Also, to preface, I'm not calling out Louise or criticizing her or anything, but I think she chose Phil might be partly because Dan's been now very open about his mental health. I'm not saying she consciously took this into account, but sadly there's a stigma around mental health disorders--in the case of depression, they're often thought to be unreliable. This could have partially influenced her decision.

tbh, she didn't give her decision much thought, it was a hypothetical she wasn't even interested in answering. She might have still picked Phil over Dan had she thought more seriously about it, but either way her decisions would be 100% wrong...it's a trick question. The correct answer is that she should leave Pearl with both Phil AND Dan. They're one entity after all

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ame wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 am
CAUTION: the next part may come off as very demon phannie but click the spoilers if you want some fic inspo i guess lol

in terms of parenting: both of them can be endearing but to put it simply, dan is the fun dad and phil is the responsible dad. itll most likely be dan whos on the floor crawling with the baby and playing together while phil is researching for homemade baby food recipes or setting up the baby monitor. theyll build the crib together ala "the wardrobe" style. theyll both suck at changing diapers at first, probably get peed at while changing them once or twice. then as the kid grows older, theyll do family gaming nights with mario kart or board games. phil will be the one to nag about doing homework but hell also help whenever he can. dan would be that one very loud and supportive parent during school recitals. but, it can also go the other way where dans the one to listen to worries about school or love life and phil plays duo in fortnite or helps them with a good idea to prank dan....its a good balance.

ok im done bye

re: me also being a demon phannie... and I'm leaving mine just out there because I have no shame apparently

Your thoughts on their parenting styles are so interesting, I never thought of it that way... tbh I always assumed it would be the opposite. Dan seems to lean more towards a Type-A personality and he has quite the history of (for lack of a better word) nagging phil... in a loving and sort of teasing way of course. Phil of course is the responsible money conscious dude, but I would bet my left ear (granted, it doesn't work, but that's just semantics lol) Dan would be the type of parent that obsesses about his kids meals... idk, like buying mostly organic and stuff. If we were talking in movie tropes, Phil would be the kind of dad to give their kid an extra scoop of ice cream when Dan's not looking.

I've noticed just through how some of my current friends and childhood acquaintances that most of the people who grew up as "latchkey kids" tend to overcompensate by being very involved in their kids lives, and seeing the way Dan talks about his childhood he seems to wish his parents were more attentive and emotionally supportive. Idk, the point is that imo Dan would be the type of parent who always keeps a close eye on his children's emotional states/progress in school/extracurriculars/uni prep/planning for the future, which is very positive and the type of parenting i envy but might come off to the kids as a bit overbearing at the time. Also, I've got a feeling that Dan would be the one to insist on always helping the children with their homework. Dan seems to wish that he had more guidance in school so

In contrast, with Phil's mostly positive upbringing, I would see him as a great parent but with a more laissez faire approach (e.g. waiting for the kid to come to him instead of borderline hovering). He would probably assume that if his children needed help they would just ask because that's how he grew up, while Dan would feel the opposite and, in turn, constantly check in with them. Although I must add, from what he's shared with us, his dad and grandparents at least somewhat feel like traditional gender-roles should be followed, and while usually being raised that way would prob lend to him to do the same just because it's what he's been ingrained to believe, thanks to Dan's influence and phil's personality in general that wouldn't be a problem. Phil would 100% be a supportive parent, no doubt about that.

Not a big point or anything, but Phil's also a bit more absentminded re: the little things compared to Dan... like the whole War of the Socks back in the early deppy days, Phil leaves all the cupboards open, Dan having to find Phil's glasses some mornings , etc. Dan has some stuff like this too, but Phil really beats him to the punch on this one.

Plus, to go into #branding territory, Dan's admitted to caring for Phil's dying houseplants (ex: putting them out in the sunlight when Phil didn't think to do that).

Additionally, from the info we've been privy to, Phil seems to plan/encourage most of their "fun activities." I will never forget their adorable story about how Phil's the one who spontaneously decided to actually buy their tickets to Japan, actually acting on the thing he and Dan have been talking about and wishing to do for literally years. And Phil's the guy who always makes sure Dan takes breaks to have fun and relax, and I can't think of any more examples atm but I swear there's more examples of how Phil was the one to decide for them to go on some of their other 'fun' outings.

In truth, they would both be somewhat "fun parents" (albeit in sometimes different ways). They're so, SO supportive of each other I doubt they wouldn't rely on the stereotype of "one bossy parent and one pushover parent who leaves their spouse to make all the hard parenting decisions." I can see them all having family video game times and similar things. Plus they got money (another shout out to Captain £ester), so they would totally do a lot of fun things together with the excuse of it being "family fun bonding time," which while i don't have firsthand experience, i would guess that stuff like that would help balance out the fun-to-serious parenting scales. tangent, but i got a feeling that with that #richLife Dan would totally insist on private tutoring/private extracurricular lessons and stuff, while phil would be like 'meh.'.

But anyway, I could be totally wrong I just love thinking about them as parents... sadly no matter what it'll be a long time if ever before we get to see that happen. They won't even get a dog

Okay idk what I even wrote here I can't even read it over... a student just stopped in for office hours... I can't believe it...
NOTE TO UNI STUDENTS... go visit ur instructor's office hours, you have no idea how much it means to us

We have been truly blessed with their Instagram stories today and I'm living for it.

phil looks so good in the most recent pics wow though they both look great in all the pics and vids from today

also the mental image of them going to poundland at night and doing a mini photoshoot because the parking lot has good lighting is adorable

firstly: I did not think to google that weird word and now i'm oddly fascinated by the idea of blue pee (and Dan having a uti? all the empathy)

secondly: fucking hell Dan looks like my ex-boyfriend in that picture...

thirdly: PHIL LESTER FUCKING HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL ME. Who knew moving his fringe would make him THAT much hotter.

if D&P aren't together, Dan must be BLIND. If they are together DAN YOU LUCKY DUCK .

We'll be voting on a new thread name soon, so get your fabulous suggestions in now!

dontpanic wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:49 pm -----------------------------------------------

ame wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 am
CAUTION: the next part may come off as very demon phannie but click the spoilers if you want some fic inspo i guess lol

in terms of parenting: both of them can be endearing but to put it simply, dan is the fun dad and phil is the responsible dad. itll most likely be dan whos on the floor crawling with the baby and playing together while phil is researching for homemade baby food recipes or setting up the baby monitor. theyll build the crib together ala "the wardrobe" style. theyll both suck at changing diapers at first, probably get peed at while changing them once or twice. then as the kid grows older, theyll do family gaming nights with mario kart or board games. phil will be the one to nag about doing homework but hell also help whenever he can. dan would be that one very loud and supportive parent during school recitals. but, it can also go the other way where dans the one to listen to worries about school or love life and phil plays duo in fortnite or helps them with a good idea to prank dan....its a good balance.

ok im done bye

re: me also being a demon phannie... and I'm leaving mine just out there because I have no shame apparently

Your thoughts on their parenting styles are so interesting, I never thought of it that way... tbh I always assumed it would be the opposite. Dan seems to lean more towards a Type-A personality and he has quite the history of (for lack of a better word) nagging phil... in a loving and sort of teasing way of course. Phil of course is the responsible money conscious dude, but I would bet my left ear (granted, it doesn't work, but that's just semantics lol) Dan would be the type of parent that obsesses about his kids meals... idk, like buying mostly organic and stuff. If we were talking in movie tropes, Phil would be the kind of dad to give their kid an extra scoop of ice cream when Dan's not looking.

I've noticed just through how some of my current friends and childhood acquaintances that most of the people who grew up as "latchkey kids" tend to overcompensate by being very involved in their kids lives, and seeing the way Dan talks about his childhood he seems to wish his parents were more attentive and emotionally supportive. Idk, the point is that imo Dan would be the type of parent who always keeps a close eye on his children's emotional states/progress in school/extracurriculars/uni prep/planning for the future, which is very positive and the type of parenting i envy but might come off to the kids as a bit overbearing at the time. Also, I've got a feeling that Dan would be the one to insist on always helping the children with their homework. Dan seems to wish that he had more guidance in school so

In contrast, with Phil's mostly positive upbringing, I would see him as a great parent but with a more laissez faire approach (e.g. waiting for the kid to come to him instead of borderline hovering). He would probably assume that if his children needed help they would just ask because that's how he grew up, while Dan would feel the opposite and, in turn, constantly check in with them. Although I must add, from what he's shared with us, his dad and grandparents at least somewhat feel like traditional gender-roles should be followed, and while usually being raised that way would prob lend to him to do the same just because it's what he's been ingrained to believe, thanks to Dan's influence and phil's personality in general that wouldn't be a problem. Phil would 100% be a supportive parent, no doubt about that.

Not a big point or anything, but Phil's also a bit more absentminded re: the little things compared to Dan... like the whole War of the Socks back in the early deppy days, Phil leaves all the cupboards open, Dan having to find Phil's glasses some mornings , etc. Dan has some stuff like this too, but Phil really beats him to the punch on this one.

Plus, to go into #branding territory, Dan's admitted to caring for Phil's dying houseplants (ex: putting them out in the sunlight when Phil didn't think to do that).

Additionally, from the info we've been privy to, Phil seems to plan/encourage most of their "fun activities." I will never forget their adorable story about how Phil's the one who spontaneously decided to actually buy their tickets to Japan, actually acting on the thing he and Dan have been talking about and wishing to do for literally years. And Phil's the guy who always makes sure Dan takes breaks to have fun and relax, and I can't think of any more examples atm but I swear there's more examples of how Phil was the one to decide for them to go on some of their other 'fun' outings.

In truth, they would both be somewhat "fun parents" (albeit in sometimes different ways). They're so, SO supportive of each other I doubt they wouldn't rely on the stereotype of "one bossy parent and one pushover parent who leaves their spouse to make all the hard parenting decisions." I can see them all having family video game times and similar things. Plus they got money (another shout out to Captain £ester), so they would totally do a lot of fun things together with the excuse of it being "family fun bonding time," which while i don't have firsthand experience, i would guess that stuff like that would help balance out the fun-to-serious parenting scales. tangent, but i got a feeling that with that #richLife Dan would totally insist on private tutoring/private extracurricular lessons and stuff, while phil would be like 'meh.'.

But anyway, I could be totally wrong I just love thinking about them as parents... sadly no matter what it'll be a long time if ever before we get to see that happen. They won't even get a dog

Okay idk what I even wrote here I can't even read it over... a student just stopped in for office hours... I can't believe it...
NOTE TO UNI STUDENTS... go visit ur instructor's office hours, you have no idea how much it means to us

As someone who’s written too much parent!phan fic and is almost always thinking about these things I have to say I agree 100%.
That kid would probably be spoilt as fuck thpugh but not in a “youtube money- we’re better than you” type of way but probably more dan wanting his kid to have experiences/ stuff he didn’t have and phil not really being someone who says no to stuff (#richkid). God they’d be such good dads. Sorry everyone else for these demon posts.

Also Phil’s profile pic ahhhhhh, can he make a video on confidence and how to gain his level of it.

Who gave Phil Lester the right to look so good? its ruining my evening, I can't tear my eyes away. jfc that confidence kills me

Phil in the denim jacket is a big yes from me.

I hope they upload a video today (Tuesday) it’s been a week since the last upload and whilst instastories are nice and all they’re not a video to the gaming channel.

autumnhearth wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 12:11 pm

I don’t know how or why he’s feeling moist but damn those collar bones.

why is his face tanner than his neck? I noticed this in another pic recently too, but now I can't remember which one. Regardless, ugh he's so attractive its really not fair. Phil looking amazing (lol) too in the Poundland pics.

human wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:41 pm Lol tonight's show...

I guess it was only a matter of time on that complicated af stage.

Please tell me someone got video of this.

sorry im on mobile on the way back home from work but i just read this tweet and idk why but im laughing, youre gunna jinx yourself there phil

ame wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 12:00 am

sorry im on mobile on the way back home from work but i just read this tweet and idk why but im laughing, youre gunna jinx yourself there phil

KatjaZoe wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:59 pm

autumnhearth wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 12:11 pm

I don’t know how or why he’s feeling moist but damn those collar bones.

why is his face tanner than his neck? I noticed this in another pic recently too, but now I can't remember which one. Regardless, ugh he's so attractive its really not fair. Phil looking amazing (lol) too in the Poundland pics.

did he get his makeup done before heading off to the stage and m&g? he doesn't have eye bags (no shade) but if he did get his face done, then he should either get new foundation because that shit has been oxidized or he should fire their makeup artist.
maybe he's just gotten a tan while wearing a turtleneck?

I wonder what Met Gala looks dan is gonna like once he wakes up.

autumnhearth wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 pm

watsonian wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 4:31 pm It took me way too long to figure out that said "moisturised" and not "moist" followed by a medication that turns your urine a blue-green color.

Also, today I learned there is a medication that can turn your urine a blue-green color! Thanks, Dan.

Me too, only my dumb Harry Potter afflicted brain was equating ‘urised’ with ‘erised’ and I was wondering why it wasn’t working backwards MOISTurised makes so much more sense.

Love the Philly teeth smile

i find it very funny that i also went straight to harry potter. wondered why desiru wasn't a word and then accepted it as some weird dan thing. didn't get the moisturised reference until i read it on here

ratlad wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 2:19 am

KatjaZoe wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:59 pm

autumnhearth wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 12:11 pm

I don’t know how or why he’s feeling moist but damn those collar bones.

why is his face tanner than his neck? I noticed this in another pic recently too, but now I can't remember which one. Regardless, ugh he's so attractive its really not fair. Phil looking amazing (lol) too in the Poundland pics.

did he get his makeup done before heading off to the stage and m&g? he doesn't have eye bags (no shade) but if he did get his face done, then he should either get new foundation because that shit has been oxidized or he should fire their makeup artist.
maybe he's just gotten a tan while wearing a turtleneck?

if it's foundation they certainly should fire the makeup artist...and hire me. i at least know to blend down onto the neck

@alittledizzy yes! phil needs to appreciate himself more. hes too kind to the point he feels responsible for other people's actions.

@dontpanic i hope you like reading because theres gunna be a lot of those in this post

re:louise - re:parenting - i legitimately spent hours typing this; i probably died and came back to life several times. i hope im making sense........

@fieldoflovers i mean, phil was practically dans sugar daddy right from the start, that £2000 date amirite? i wish i had d+p as my dads....but wait, if you think about it, arent we all their (internet) children in a sense?

Had a weird dream last night that Dan did a big YouTube video reveal of his new boyfriend Brad, and Phil was very excited about it