Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

[citizen_erased]

Tomorrow is also the 13th anniversary of Phil joining YouTube (February 7th, 2006).

Maybe he'll upload a video but I don't want to get my hopes up.

he said on instagram he's going to upload tomorrow though.

EDIT: oh good top of the page. HI MOM!

So uh, now we're all here, just to spread the news some more: NEW PHIL VIDEO TOMORROW!

I, for one, can't wait for all of us to stare at the clock impatiently tomorrow while he takes his sweet time to upload but really though, I'm glad he's announcing this way in advance now.

[kavat]

I'm starting to think that Hector was right all along and this is the true reason why we haven't seen Dan's face in so long

(Please click through for the whole 9 part saga)

[SpikyLeaf]

Tomorrow is also the 13th anniversary of Phil joining YouTube (February 7th, 2006).

Maybe he'll upload a video but I don't want to get my hopes up.

he said on instagram he's going to upload tomorrow though.

EDIT: oh good top of the page. HI MOM!

So uh, now we're all here, just to spread the news some more: NEW PHIL VIDEO TOMORROW!

I, for one, can't wait for all of us to stare at the clock impatiently tomorrow while he takes his sweet time to upload but really though, I'm glad he's announcing this way in advance now.

oh
I don't check Instagram so I didn't see that

That's exciting though

[plinthofmylife]

Tomorrow is also the 13th anniversary of Phil joining YouTube (February 7th, 2006).

Aww, I wonder if he realizes that and is timing the upload for that. I hope so! Reflective Phil is pretty quality content.

Ohhh, I just looked up my YT join date and it was December 25, 2006. Wonder wtf I was doing on xmas that year... I guess in December my YT account will be old enough to use YT by itself without a parent or guardian's permission.

@SpikyLeaf I'm glad to see someone else also is filling their content void with the same content. I want an answer to that sheet, too.

[rikonee]

With the way things are going right now (new vid after only a week of the previous vid), I'm trying to stop myself from hoping that Phil has set a schedule and that he will upload once a week.

I'm doing my best to stomp that little piece of hope to death because I don't wanna get my hopes up and be disappointed.

And I just realized the fact it's his channel anniversary! It just struck me how long he's been doing this.

[lesterchuu]

#IDBWATCHFESTSPON

It's IDB watch fest week once again!
This Sunday, February 10th, we will be watching PREDICTING MY FUTURE! and DAB AND EVAN 'MESS AROUND'

Reminder that he thread will be open ALL DAY! Timestamps are encouraged, but if you're not into that, you can always look at the starter questions and choose which ones to discuss. Of course, you are also welcome to make your own questions and reply on other's posts.

Looking forward to everyones lovely discussions~

[flarequake]

I’d forgotten that black fabric in Tom’s ii package. I’m sure he can provide his own backdrop if he needs a black one, so probs not that. Maybe there are two, Dan having the other one and between them they can journey to a void for extra peace and quiet, Deps can visit Squidge, they can all get around London in their own version of Neverwhere (Neil Gaiman book), the possibilities could be endless.

[Stakhanov]

Phil coming out with a second D&P video is an encouraging sign that at least one channel isn't completely dead. A 'regular upload schedule' I don't ever really see happening, but so far this second video in a month indicates he'll release content with some form of regularity.
It would be interesting if he mentions something about future joint content. We're into the second week of februari now, and so far there hasn't been a single blip about D&P games. Is Dan going to live a Buddhist monk in Tibet the coming year? It certainly seems (so far) that no decisions (known to us) have been made about what they are planning to do this year.

I hope Dan is doing ok and returns to youtube. As long as he doesn't have his own channel, and not even a collab channel, we might as well rename this to the Phil Lester forum. Featuring occasional 3 second shots or fan pictures of Dan Howell.

[glitterintheair]

I think with the membership thing going on, we'll get frequent videos from Phil because people who are members wouldn't be happy to spend money only to get like one video a month.

[Ablissa]

I think with the membership thing going on, we'll get frequent videos from Phil because people who are members wouldn't be happy to spend money only to get like one video a month.

This is what I think as well. The membership thing allows me to believe that at least on Phil's channel, the content will be regular.

I wonder if Dan will enable it on his channel once he does upload? I'm guessing not. He doesn't seem like he'll be back to uploading semi-frequently. If he ever does...

I'm excited for a Phil video, but would love it even better if it was joint. Sigh.

[snokoplasmic]

With the way things are going right now (new vid after only a week of the previous vid), I'm trying to stop myself from hoping that Phil has set a schedule and that he will upload once a week.

I'm doing my best to stomp that little piece of hope to death because I don't wanna get my hopes up and be disappointed.

I don't think that that's unrealistic! I mean, I think that it's been about two weeks since the video (I haven't checked though, so maybe), but I think you're right that he has set a schedule for himself. I say this because he generally has uploaded every two weeks
from the beginning(ish) of 2017, up till June/July/whenever it was of 2018 when he took the break during tour (excluding their Christmas/winter holidays and other holidays and those times he got sick or had to put a video off for whatever reason obvs).

AmazingPhil had had a loose yet consistent schedule for a long while, and I don't see why it would be unrealistic to think that he's bringing it back, especially now that all tour stuff is done and it's a new year, and especially with the new channel membership, which gives him way more of an incentive than he probably already had. I give you permission to get your hopes up a bit!

Also, I feel like I should add that while I understand why some people didn't like the idea of channel membership because of the lack of uploads we'd been getting, this was the reason why I didn't have a problem with it -- I just assumed that with him having a loosely pre-established uploading schedule, he would fall back into it once uploads started up again.

Also also, anyone have ideas on what the video will be? I'm guessing that he'll probably do a couple different things suggested to him by the channel members sometime last week (or whenever it was) to show off the membership and give it a final push before letting it just take a backburner spot in his endscreen from then on

Also also also sorry if this doesn't make much sense lol, it's 5 in the morning and I don't know why I've been up for an hour

[CapriciousCrab]

I might be the only one but I hope Dan *isn't* in Phil's video. I know people are desperate to see him in some capacity, especially since dapg is hiatusing or whatever, but I don't want Phil's channel to become Phil ft. Dan. Let it be a place for Phil to do Phil things.

It's not Phil's job to do Dan's for him- if Dan wants to be active then he knows how to post, how to film, how to tweet. He clearly doesn't wish to be active right now so we'll have to wait until he does. In the meantime, let's enjoy Phil for himself and not just as the back half of 'Dan and Phil'.


( This is in no way directed at anyone, just a general response to a lot of the same sentiment seen on Tumblr and Twitter )

[dancy]

Phil did seem quite excited to get back into making videos on AmazingPhil again and while I'm not counting on a tight uploading schedule, I would like to think he'll be making at least two videos a month again. He did upload every 2-3 weeks back in 2017 and during that time D&P also frequently uploaded gaming videos and since they're not focusing on DAPG for the time being, that should leave even more time to work on main channel videos and other projects. Then again, they could just use that extra time to relax (or move, if that's your kinda thing), who knows.

I think with the membership thing going on, we'll get frequent videos from Phil because people who are members wouldn't be happy to spend money only to get like one video a month.

This is what I think as well. The membership thing allows me to believe that at least on Phil's channel, the content will be regular.

I wonder if Dan will enable it on his channel once he does upload? I'm guessing not. He doesn't seem like he'll be back to uploading semi-frequently. If he ever does...

I don't see him being a full-time YouTuber again either, whenever he comes back. He doesn't seem all too happy with the platform anymore and I've had the feeling that he has other ambitions too for a while now.

I might be the only one but I hope Dan *isn't* in Phil's video. I know people are desperate to see him in some capacity, especially since dapg is hiatusing or whatever, but I don't want Phil's channel to become Phil ft. Dan. Let it be a place for Phil to do Phil things.

It's not Phil's job to do Dan's for him- if Dan wants to be active then he knows how to post, how to film, how to tweet. He clearly doesn't wish to be active right now so we'll have to wait until he does. In the meantime, let's enjoy Phil for himself and not just as the back half of 'Dan and Phil'.

I agree! And not that I don't want to see Dan make any appearance on Phil's channel again (and it will inevitably happen again at some point) but for now I think it's a good thing for Phil to establish himself as a YouTuber again after all the joint videos on his channel in the past few years.

[kavat]

I might be the only one but I hope Dan *isn't* in Phil's video. I know people are desperate to see him in some capacity, especially since dapg is hiatusing or whatever, but I don't want Phil's channel to become Phil ft. Dan. Let it be a place for Phil to do Phil things.

It's not Phil's job to do Dan's for him- if Dan wants to be active then he knows how to post, how to film, how to tweet. He clearly doesn't wish to be active right now so we'll have to wait until he does. In the meantime, let's enjoy Phil for himself and not just as the back half of 'Dan and Phil'.


( This is in no way directed at anyone, just a general response to a lot of the same sentiment seen on Tumblr and Twitter )

I get what you mean. I want Phil to have his channel back and make the videos he wants to make. I'm excited to see what plans he has. But I also miss Dan, and I miss joint content, and since AP is the only channel we've seen life signs of lately, it seems like the most likely place to get that.

If we knew more about the status of liveshows I might feel different.

[Catallena]

Happy Phil Feeds Us Again Day! I'm starving.

I do think that Phil will actually keep some kind of upload schedule. Not one that is like Every Thursday At 8PM or something because that has never been Phil's style, but just kinda how it used to be when he made a video every two weeks or so. It's a good schedule for him. Opening up memberships might have been controversial, but that gives him a good motivation to keep posting as well. If people are gonna pay, they better get content.

And yeah I don't want Dan in the new video either. I miss Dan and won't mind a glimpse of his face or even hearing his voice in the background at some point, but I don't want him actually featuring in the video. If they truly wanna focus on solo content rn then it's important for Phil to keep that going without Dan, especially while The Channel Formerly Known As DINOF is still comatose. And since I expect Dan will be making his return in March when it has been a full year since TTLMT (because a year hiatus just sounds better than 11 months and Dan thinks about shit like that) I think a nice return for collabs on the AP channel would be Easter Baking in late April (don't kill me I know that's a long time). Until then, I hope Phil can make AP a channel that is truly his again. And for Dan to... idk. Live this truth or something.

I do miss joint content, but I've accepted by now that we ain't getting that for a while

[LtrllySusan]

Do you guys remember when some were worried that after the tour, everything would change? And those were told not to worry, and that nothing would change.

But PINOF is dead.
DAPG is gone.
Liveshows are gone.
Dan is probably dead.
And absolutely no communication

IDK, I'm not even excited about the handwriting video

[rikonee]

I might be the only one but I hope Dan *isn't* in Phil's video. I know people are desperate to see him in some capacity, especially since dapg is hiatusing or whatever, but I don't want Phil's channel to become Phil ft. Dan. Let it be a place for Phil to do Phil things.

It's not Phil's job to do Dan's for him- if Dan wants to be active then he knows how to post, how to film, how to tweet. He clearly doesn't wish to be active right now so we'll have to wait until he does. In the meantime, let's enjoy Phil for himself and not just as the back half of 'Dan and Phil'.


( This is in no way directed at anyone, just a general response to a lot of the same sentiment seen on Tumblr and Twitter )

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement, word by word.

I would love to see Dan again, but it's obvious right now he doesn't wish to be active. Maybe he would appear in a video after he resurrected DINOF, the time is not now though. I would rather he take his own time rather than making a video and suffering through it.

Also, people seem to forget that 2018 is a pretty big year for Phil too. He's made a lot of changes (also some extra ones at early 2019). Not just physical changes, but also mental and persona change. I'm sure he feels like he needs to re establish himself again.

I wanna see Phil explore his channel more this year, play with his content, balancing between what he likes and what the audience wants. Being more real with us, do some membership things or maybe just some random little sketches. Maybe more solo Phil in 2019, just because it's getting rarer last year with most of the content being joint.

[liola]

I agree with the statement of hoping Dan won't be in an AP video for a while actually. I miss joint content, but I don't understand why dan is allowed to not be bothered with "do a video with Phil" while Phil is the designated danger control/dan-ticket channel. 2017 was the year of change for Dan, 2018 kinda was for Phil but we still had the filter of joint content. I want to see at least some Phil creativity, just him. I'll gladly take dan mentions though, and his help off camera like in the outfit video. That I will 100% love. But for a bit I want it to be Phil's channel.

It's not Phil's duty to give us joint content. It has to come from both. It always kinda bothered me that Dan never showed Phil on his channel besides baking. I know they don't care, I know Phil doesn't give a shit but as a viewer that's what I feel lmao

Will Dan ever show us his face again? Will he grant us this joy? At least we know we can look forward to Phil content, but really, hasn't that always been the case?

[CapriciousCrab]

It's not Phil's duty to give us joint content. It has to come from both. It always kinda bothered me that Dan never showed Phil on his channel besides baking. I know they don't care, I know Phil doesn't give a shit but as a viewer that's what I feel lmao

Dan's always had strange thresholds for his channel so I just shrugged it off as a Dan-thing. His leaving most of the endless spon work to Phil annoyed me more than that lol. But yeah, funny how no one calls out for Phil to feature in Dan vids.

I just think that if Dan can take this time to grow as an individual (or plant creature) then let's also extend that grace to Phil. Let him be more than just 'and Phil'.

[glitterintheair]

It's not Phil's duty to give us joint content. It has to come from both. It always kinda bothered me that Dan never showed Phil on his channel besides baking. I know they don't care, I know Phil doesn't give a shit but as a viewer that's what I feel lmao

Dan's always had strange thresholds for his channel so I just shrugged it off as a Dan-thing. His leaving most of the endless spon work to Phil annoyed me more than that lol. But yeah, funny how no one calls out for Phil to feature in Dan vids.

Yeah, that's why I never expect joint videos from him. He wants be perceived in a certain way on yt (I am not rolling my eyes while typing this, not at all okay shut up)- just think about the Pastel Edits video, for example. He was all like "i am someone with an integrity (...) what would the filmmakers on youtube think of this?"

Honestly, I think that all those thresholds for his channel are just holding him back, but what do I know.

[alittledizzy]

Honestly, I think that all those thresholds for his channel are just holding him back, but what do I know.

I think you're right and I think Dan knows it too but I also think it must be a very, very awful feeling for him to genuinely dislike content that he used to make (which I think he does, for a lot of his videos - hence unlisting/deleting so many) and to struggle against the feeling of wanting to make content now but fearing in another five years he'll hate that too, or that he'll look back and see it as not representative of who he wants to be. I really do believe that he thinks he needs to hit a certain point of growth before he's ready, I just don't think he understands that the growth probably isn't gonna really stop.

Being closeted (to the extent he is) probably only adds to the conflict, too. It's hard to know that everything you say to someone is a half-truth (by omission, at this point, but in the past more explicitly) when what you want to be doing is living your whole truth.

[glitterintheair]

I really do believe that he thinks he needs to hit a certain point of growth before he's ready, I just don't think he understands that the growth probably isn't gonna really stop.
Being closeted (to the extent he is) probably only adds to the conflict, too. It's hard to know that everything you say to someone is a half-truth (by omission, at this point, but in the past more explicitly) when what you want to be doing is living your whole truth.

I went back and re-read what Dan said during the Tumblr Q&A about the possible return of dinof and he explained that he needed a break to grow as a person and to figure out how to be who he wants to be before his comeback. I understand that but as you said, the growth probably isn't gonna stop. There's no end goal there, he's not a tv show character with a development that will reach its completion at the end of the series. We, as people, are always changing and evolving and it's interely possible that a year from now Dan will probably regret some parts of his current self but that shouldn't stop him from being who he wants to be now.

I also agree about the whole "being closeted" part and I think he will address the elephant in the room, eventually. I just feel like that sexuality is something he wants to discuss but he needs to figure out how to approach such a sensitive topic before he actually does it.

[fancybum]

Being closeted (to the extent he is) probably only adds to the conflict, too. It's hard to know that everything you say to someone is a half-truth (by omission, at this point, but in the past more explicitly) when what you want to be doing is living your whole truth.

Orrr maybe his fanbase considering him closeted when that may not be how he considers himself is very frustrating. That him talking about living his truth and attempting to do so as best he can under somewhat of a microscope and mostly getting feedback that it’s not enough and everybody is always expecting more (more than he feels willing to give) or different than he’s giving is possibly just a bit demoralizing.

This is why we need solo liveshows - at least there we could get crumbs to go on with our wild speculations. We’ve got nothing right now. Dan could be having the time of his life with nary a thought given to internet expectations and we have no clue. (Is that likely? I mean.. probably not but good for him if it is, I guess).

[knq]

I've never felt like Dan being in some of Phil's videos made it any less Phil's channel. I don't see why that would start being the case now. AP videos have always pretty clearly been what Phil wants to do, whether that's pastel edits with Dan or drawing viewers with his feet.

[fancybum]

Why does the word ‘project’ instill immediate fear in me? (Also it could easily refer to projects from their other creators or whatever but STILL).

Is that gaming section of their site new.....? hmmm