Dan & Phil Part 1: The Mods are NOT EXEMPT FROM ANY RULES

[oqua]

[offtopic]GG is back I see, has the What happened to Gurugossip thread been deleted? I can't seem to see it.
Did something happen?[/offtopic]

[offtopic]I was just wondering the same thing, and also wanted to post about it.[/offtopic]

[offtopic]same. Also, mermaid is banned in gg now. What happen?[/offtopic]

[offtopic]Ladies, Nesoi has apparently said Gabz_is_shite has deleted her account. Is there anyone that can verify this? From what I could see on my phone all of Gabz_is_shite's posts are there and it still says she's a Mod. Is this a lie then?![/offtopic]

[offtopic]From what I can see, her name is pink but when I click it, the web says user doesn't exist. Maybe it's true, idk.[/offtopic]

Moderator Action :

Hey, sorry we didn't explain sooner -- see this explanation please. And carry on talking here for the time being. Sorry for the confusion.

[kooshka]

But that being said, it doesn't mean ourselves can't work together to make D&P's content more friendly to non-english speakers. So I plan to make a proposal to channelflip/D&P, ask them to consider turning on "add subtitle" functions for D&P video, so that people who want to contribute to translate their videos to another language can do that with a simple click.

I've been wondering why their vids don't have any subtitles! I have a friend who's little sister loves Tyler, he was the first English speaking youtuber she started following, since he has subtitles in her native language. I tried to recommend D&P channels but since there's no subs, it's a bit hard for her to follow. It would do wonders for her English studies.
Though I must admit that, now that we're talking languages - it kinda makes me cringe how many English native people seem to think that non-native people just can't understand English. This isn't meant to be towards gg peeps, no worries, but I've seen so many people say on tumblr etc. that it's impossible for them to tour on anywhere else than English speaking countries.

[sweetmm]

Woah my thread disappeared Yeah as a new forum we need to be careful to work around the site provider rules

Mermaid what in the world did you post over there

Well there is still hope they spent Easter together

[daphenaxa]

But that being said, it doesn't mean ourselves can't work together to make D&P's content more friendly to non-english speakers. So I plan to make a proposal to channelflip/D&P, ask them to consider turning on "add subtitle" functions for D&P video, so that people who want to contribute to translate their videos to another language can do that with a simple click.

I've been wondering why their vids don't have any subtitles! I have a friend who's little sister loves Tyler, he was the first English speaking youtuber she started following, since he has subtitles in her native language. I tried to recommend D&P channels but since there's no subs, it's a bit hard for her to follow. It would do wonders for her English studies.
Though I must admit that, now that we're talking languages - it kinda makes me cringe how many English native people seem to think that non-native people just can't understand English. This isn't meant to be towards gg peeps, no worries, but I've seen so many people say on tumblr etc. that it's impossible for them to tour on anywhere else than English speaking countries.

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

[human]

Seems I'm now banned on GG. No idea why. I was reading the site fine a couple of hours ago and haven't said anything rude or flamerish. Bizarre and disappointing.

[palpable]

But that being said, it doesn't mean ourselves can't work together to make D&P's content more friendly to non-english speakers. So I plan to make a proposal to channelflip/D&P, ask them to consider turning on "add subtitle" functions for D&P video, so that people who want to contribute to translate their videos to another language can do that with a simple click.

I've been wondering why their vids don't have any subtitles! I have a friend who's little sister loves Tyler, he was the first English speaking youtuber she started following, since he has subtitles in her native language. I tried to recommend D&P channels but since there's no subs, it's a bit hard for her to follow. It would do wonders for her English studies.
Though I must admit that, now that we're talking languages - it kinda makes me cringe how many English native people seem to think that non-native people just can't understand English. This isn't meant to be towards gg peeps, no worries, but I've seen so many people say on tumblr etc. that it's impossible for them to tour on anywhere else than English speaking countries.

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

More than the language part I also think that Dan and Phil are not incredibly well known in countries outside of English speaking countries. I would not know a single person from my home country (in Europe) or in the country I study in (Asia) that would possibly know them. And I am not that old. (I mean, in the phandom I am a grandmother )

Among my friends I am a little bit of an outlier with my youtube habit, and if friends watch youtube, they watch more ~mature~ channels like Casey Neistat's.

When we're at it:
Can we talk about Casey's incredible work ethic compared to D&P? He has a child, a company and still manages to consistently upload vlogs of amazingly high quality. Honestly, if they just had a tiny bit of his work ethic... can you imagine the amount of content we'd get? I know they must be busy behind the scenes, organizing a tour and such...but...but...!!

[palpable]

Double post, I know :ugeek:
[offtopic]

Should we pm some posters on the gg forum that we moved here? Have we decided what to do? There seem to be some legit members and it would be nice to have them here too

[/offtopic]

[akui]

(...) So I plan to make a proposal to channelflip/D&P, ask them to consider to turn on "add subtitle" functions for D&P video so that people who want to contribute to translate their videos to another language can simply do that with a simple click.

This! Maybe we should start first making people in the tumblr and twitter phandom know that this is a good thing. And D&P don't have to do any work, is the phandom in each part of the world the ones that put the subs.

The problem is, I literally don't know anyone on tumblr I can tweet updatephan but I'm not sure she will be interested to help me. Also I don't want to make it into another "get phil on google doddle for his birthday" cringefest and people pressuring deppy into doing things they don't want to do. Also I understand since deppy are not multilingual so it's hard to monitor the quality and honesty of the subtitles, some people might use their popularity to spread false information or evil propaganda. So before I really do anything I need to have a thorough plan of how it could work.

[SquishPhan]

Woah my thread disappeared Yeah as a new forum we need to be careful to work around the site provider rules

Mermaid what in the world did you post over there

Well there is still hope they spent Easter together

Let's hope that Dan will give something away in his live show tonight. I don't even know why I care about this, but apparently I do, so I'm just rolling with it.

[sweetmm]

Let's hope that Dan will give something away in his live show tonight. I don't even know why I care about this, but apparently I do, so I'm just rolling with it.

Cause there is nothing else to talk about ATM

[akui]

But that being said, it doesn't mean ourselves can't work together to make D&P's content more friendly to non-english speakers. So I plan to make a proposal to channelflip/D&P, ask them to consider turning on "add subtitle" functions for D&P video, so that people who want to contribute to translate their videos to another language can do that with a simple click.

I've been wondering why their vids don't have any subtitles! I have a friend who's little sister loves Tyler, he was the first English speaking youtuber she started following, since he has subtitles in her native language. I tried to recommend D&P channels but since there's no subs, it's a bit hard for her to follow. It would do wonders for her English studies.
Though I must admit that, now that we're talking languages - it kinda makes me cringe how many English native people seem to think that non-native people just can't understand English. This isn't meant to be towards gg peeps, no worries, but I've seen so many people say on tumblr etc. that it's impossible for them to tour on anywhere else than English speaking countries.

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

More than the language part I also think that Dan and Phil are not incredibly well known in countries outside of English speaking countries. I would not know a single person from my home country (in Europe) or in the country I study in (Asia) that would possibly know them. And I am not that old. (I mean, in the phandom I am a grandmother )

Among my friends I am a little bit of an outlier with my youtube habit, and if friends watch youtube, they watch more ~mature~ channels like Casey Neistat's.

When we're at it:
Can we talk about Casey's incredible work ethic compared to D&P? He has a child, a company and still manages to consistently upload vlogs of amazingly high quality. Honestly, if they just had a tiny bit of his work ethic... can you imagine the amount of content we'd get? I know they must be busy behind the scenes, organizing a tour and such...but...but...!!

I've been trying to promote deppy in the chinese speaking community but it doesn't work very well, apparently young people think they are not gay enough, i'm like "excuse me?" Meanwhile Troye and Connor are incredibly popular.

[offtopic]I personally don't quite get Casey Neistats, to me he seem like another dude who put his sexy girlfriend on the thumbnail for clicks. Also vlogs are usually require much less editing than other form of videos.[/offtopic]

[SquishPhan]

Let's hope that Dan will give something away in his live show tonight. I don't even know why I care about this, but apparently I do, so I'm just rolling with it.

Cause there is nothing else to talk about ATM

That is probably it.
Although I do have to admit that I am fascinated by how much time Dan and Phil seem to spend together. Even when they were touring and saw each other all the time, they still went to the movies together. I just can’t comprehend not getting sick of someone after spending that much time together.

Also palpable if you see someone on GG you want to invite over here, just PM them. Pretty sure no one here would mind.

[kooshka]

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

First of all, I don't know if I read the tone correcly but if I gave the tone of "ofc everyone can speak english lolz" I'm really sorry! Didn't mean to sound condensing or something. I'm a bit priviledged in the sense that I live in a nordic country and here, people are really good at English.
I'm basing my opinion on the survey and if I remember correctly, they have quite a lot of fans in Europe (and I apologize, my knowledge on these kind of things is mostly just for Europe, I have no idea how many fans they have in for example Asia and South America, nevertheless for the English profiency they have there).
Those are good points, but I'd still say that at least an European tour is not impossible. Probably wouldn't be too long though, since as for the nordic counries a show in Stockholm could make people arrive from several countries. France, Germany also. Just a few shows, and I'm sure the more dedicated fans would show up. If someone is able to follow their vids, the tour show doesn't seem too compicated to follow, even though I'm basing this mostly on the audio track someone provided ages ago.

[SquishPhan]

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

First of all, I don't know if I read the tone correcly but if I gave the tone of "ofc everyone can speak english lolz" I'm really sorry! Didn't mean to sound condensing or something. I'm a bit priviledged in the sense that I live in a nordic country and here, people are really good at English.
I'm basing my opinion on the survey and if I remember correctly, they have quite a lot of fans in Europe (and I apologize, my knowledge on these kind of things is mostly just for Europe, I have no idea how many fans they have in for example Asia and South America, nevertheless for the English profiency they have there).
Those are good points, but I'd still say that at least an European tour is not impossible. Probably wouldn't be too long though, since as for the nordic counries a show in Stockholm could make people arrive from several countries. France, Germany also. Just a few shows, and I'm sure the more dedicated fans would show up. If someone is able to follow their vids, the tour show doesn't seem too compicated to follow, even though I'm basing this mostly on the audio track someone provided ages ago.

I agree with this. Where I live most people speak English okay, and can understand it pretty well. In the TABINOF book, my country was listed as one of the top ten countries where Phil's subscribers come from. So I hope that it means that they might come here.

[oqua]

[offtopic]You guys have probably noticed, but I added some more emoticons:
:therethere: :wtf:

Enjoy![/offtopic]

[Kurapika]

I live in Brazil, and there's some people here that watch D&P, none that I've ever met, as I live in a small city far from capitals...and I don't know many people...But ANYWAYS, even if they watch them, I'm not sure bringing TATINOF here would be the greatest idea. Not many people are that good at English, and it would be very hard to understand what the fuck they're saying live.
And I'm also being a bit selfish, because people here are very very loud (I'm sure some of you must've heard about that lol), and I'm 100% the teenagers would be screaming lots of embarrassing things. It would be the worst.

But yes, I agree that adding subtitles to their videos is a great idea!

[blue_bear]

Oh wow! So here's where you all were hiding

[DryCereal]

I am hoping for them to do a European tour. I would travel to see TATINOF, still kicking myself for not going to see it last autumn.

Right now I'm on the verge of a content drought. Again. LS tonight though. Don't let me down Dan.

[coffee pig]

http://straightwhiteboystexting.tumblr. ... gslytherin

Came across this gem on a Tumblr completely unrelated to Dan and Phil. Funny, but it also reminds me just how crazy popular they are nowadays and it freaks met out a bit.

[fkatwigs]

Hi long time gg lurker but though I might start occasionally posting here as the community is less intimidating

Hearing of the recent Youtuber breakups (Hangrid, possibly Tronner idk I don't follow them particularly) is another reminder for me as to why Dan and Phil never went and unfortunately likely never will go public; public breakups are messy and stressful, even back in the old days when youtubers were less popular/in the public eye break ups blew into huge things for example I remember Alex Day (sorry to bring him up ) had some bad ones very early on which I feel like might have influenced phan's decision to stay ambiguous (just about.. ) from the start.

[palpable]

[offtopic]I personally don't quite get Casey Neistats, to me he seem like another dude who put his sexy girlfriend on the thumbnail for clicks. Also vlogs are usually require much less editing than other form of videos.[/offtopic]

I have to disagree [amicably ] with you here: Personally, his style of editing takes a lot of work, or so I think, because Caisey puts a lot of effort in the details, like matching the music in his vlogs with the cuts. His vlogs are expertly made imo; one narrative is developed so the viewer can easily follow; use of different angles and shots etc etc. (Also the sexy girlfriend thing is just to get people to click on the video in the first place; I don't think they stay for the sexy gf..or wife in his case)

To contrast that with deppy: while I do enjoy most of their videos, par a few like ISG, they are not that difficult to edit, especially with the format both of them have been going for nowadays. Phil's content as of 2016 is hardly more than a sit down vlog and, while quite enjoyable to watch, really not that demanding to produce as well as to edit.

I don't want to make unfair comparisons, but I think the difference in approach to their work is striking. Then again...behind the scenes and such

[oqua]

[offtopic]You guys have probably noticed, but I added some more emoticons:
:therethere: :wtf:

Enjoy![/offtopic]

And here are a few ~hidden~ emoticons...




Also I want to add that this emoticon:
Is meant to mirror this Dan picture:


Have fun with 'em

[coffee pig]

Hi long time gg lurker but though I might start occasionally posting here as the community is less intimidating

Hearing of the recent Youtuber breakups (Hangrid, possibly Tronner idk I don't follow them particularly) is another reminder for me as to why Dan and Phil never went and unfortunately likely never will go public; public breakups are messy and stressful, even back in the old days when youtubers were less popular/in the public eye break ups blew into huge things for example I remember Alex Day (sorry to bring him up ) had some bad ones very early on which I feel like might have influenced phan's decision to stay ambiguous (just about.. ) from the start.

Welcome to the forum. Not only Alex, but PJ and Lex Croucher (tyrannosauruslexxx) went out for a year and then broke up, it was pretty much the biggest drama on YouTube in 2010. Lex even wrote a song about him. Another notable messy break-up was Kalel and Anthony, another friend of theirs. I can imagine witnessing this stuff first-hand really put them off coming out publicly (y'know, if they are together.) Also, why do people think Tronnor broke up??

[corn flakes]

I agree with you that a lot of young people in non English speaking countries understand English very well and Dan and Phil definitely could (I hope they do) tour some of those countries but I also agree that the English proficiency is a big brake for their tour.
1st understanding a video where you can listen several times, looks into the comments, ask for help... and understanding a live performance show where there is also gonna be a lot of screaming is very different. So some people might already question if it's not better to wait for a recording of it.
2nd you have to have friends 1st who know of Dan and Phil and second who can understand English as well as you do. I know that in my case, I can't think of a friend who could understand their show honestly.
3rd if you are on the younger spectrum, you have to hope your parents understand English or don't mind going to a show where they will understand nothing.
So all those factor do make it more difficult. It's not like a concert where you know the songs already or don't care if you don't understand everything.

I'm going to disagree with you daphenexa:if someone sees their videos usually they would understand english and don't forget, at least where I live, that younger people are taught english from when they are small( like now some begin in kindergarden) and also tend to see foreign shows. From this point of view I'm not sure but I think the only change would be that their fans in non english- speaking countries would be that they will be a little older? (has someone made a research regarding this?)

They can do a EU tour but probably will do one or two shows for every country.

Also, maybe I'm the only one that didn't undertand but are we "sure" that Dan was with them on Saturday?From wirrow tweet I saw three drinks?

[oqua]

Hi long time gg lurker but though I might start occasionally posting here as the community is less intimidating

Hearing of the recent Youtuber breakups (Hangrid, possibly Tronner idk I don't follow them particularly) is another reminder for me as to why Dan and Phil never went and unfortunately likely never will go public; public breakups are messy and stressful, even back in the old days when youtubers were less popular/in the public eye break ups blew into huge things for example I remember Alex Day (sorry to bring him up ) had some bad ones very early on which I feel like might have influenced phan's decision to stay ambiguous (just about.. ) from the start.

Welcome to the forum. Not only Alex, but PJ and Lex Croucher (tyrannosauruslexxx) went out for a year and then broke up, it was pretty much the biggest drama on YouTube in 2010. Lex even wrote a song about him. Another notable messy break-up was Kalel and Anthony, another friend of theirs. I can imagine witnessing this stuff first-hand really put them off coming out publicly (y'know, if they are together.) Also, why do people think Tronnor broke up??

Moderator Action :

Hey guys, you can create a thread for other YouTubers in the Off Topic section. That would be a better place to talk about this stuff, plus it'll be a good addition to the forum!