Dan and Phil Part 105: Gay 🧡

[parallel]

Hey er. The Manchester Eye is back? O.o

[000dia000]

Lovely video. I prayed for times like this. I love when they go outside.

[secondtetrisblock]

Hi everyone, I was active in phandom from like 2015 - 2018 and a lurker on GG back then (lol). The new content has sucked me back in after all these years and I have just been unable to stop thinking/wanting to talk about d&p so I decided to finally just register an account here

So anyway, about this new video: I see a lot of myself in Dan's qualities and although his sense of humor is maybe a little more edgy and annoying than mine, I find him a lot easier to comprehend as a person. Which means that in this new video, the ways in which he's opening up and changing compared to like, 2011 or even 2017, feel like they make logical sense to me. On the other hand, as much as I adore Phil, it's always been slightly harder for me to get a read on him. Lately I can't stop rewatching ancient AP videos and just comparing and contrasting the way he talked and interacted with people in the past vs now. He's more open, happy, making raunchy jokes, and I don't expect or even necessarily want him to start pouring his entire heart out on the screen for me. But I still find it interesting the ways in which he is STILL hard to read, a bit more guarded. IDK if it's just me feeling that way! I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on Phil's youtube projection over the years. Anyway it was a great video, I had a lot of fun and rewatched it again today already. In some moments, especially the scone argument at high tea, I was seriously feeling like I was just third wheeling on a date. Like... should I be here with you two?

[casualsun]

What do we think about them changing the name of the new video from ‘We Let a Rat Control Our Day’ to ‘Our Anniversary London Adventure’? They never even mention the word anniversary in the video or imply that it’s an anniversary activity (unless I missed this and they did say it?). Idk it feels a bit too much like pandering to young fans to me.

Regarding the video itself, I agree with others that it was lovely. It felt so fresh but also natural at the same time. I wish they did things out of the house more!

[plinthofmylife]

What do we think about them changing the name of the new video from ‘We Let a Rat Control Our Day’ to ‘Our Anniversary London Adventure’?

It had that title for me all along from the moment of upload . They probably did an a/b test and that one won, which it is a better title (more unique to them and their audience) so I see why it is.

They can pander to me all they want. They essentially filmed a 15 hour date around London and I am happy to ride along with any title

[parallel]

What do we think about them changing the name of the new video from ‘We Let a Rat Control Our Day’ to ‘Our Anniversary London Adventure’? They never even mention the word anniversary in the video or imply that it’s an anniversary activity (unless I missed this and they did say it?). Idk it feels a bit too much like pandering to young fans to me.

Yes it was an A/B test. It's always had both titles, and you might see a different one at different times. They didn't change it.

On another topic, can't believe how much content we're getting now though wtf

[somelikeitpink]

Ngl I’m a little bit overwhelmed that it feels like almost daily content now. I had a moment where I actively hoped we wouldn’t get anything else yesterday so I could digest the anniversary date and then they posted the commentary.
But oh my god I LOVE that as a format. It’s sooo clever and I really enjoy that they seem so willing to try out new things now??

Re title: I actually don’t think it’s catered to younger fans, I find it just caters more to the insiders? Like if you know you know - and quite frankly they can pander to me all they want with that, I’m in.

Re Phil being hard to read: I actually need to think about that for a sec cause I don’t find him that hard to read? I just think that like… without being mean, Phil is pretty straightforward and probably just more balanced out in his feelings? So it comes across as more reserved but there’s not much more going on behind it? Idk how to describe it, I think I’ll sit on that for a bit longer and try to formulate it

[Kuu]

Hi everyone, I was active in phandom from like 2015 - 2018 and a lurker on GG back then (lol). The new content has sucked me back in after all these years and I have just been unable to stop thinking/wanting to talk about d&p so I decided to finally just register an account here

So anyway, about this new video: I see a lot of myself in Dan's qualities and although his sense of humor is maybe a little more edgy and annoying than mine, I find him a lot easier to comprehend as a person. Which means that in this new video, the ways in which he's opening up and changing compared to like, 2011 or even 2017, feel like they make logical sense to me. On the other hand, as much as I adore Phil, it's always been slightly harder for me to get a read on him. Lately I can't stop rewatching ancient AP videos and just comparing and contrasting the way he talked and interacted with people in the past vs now. He's more open, happy, making raunchy jokes, and I don't expect or even necessarily want him to start pouring his entire heart out on the screen for me. But I still find it interesting the ways in which he is STILL hard to read, a bit more guarded. IDK if it's just me feeling that way! I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on Phil's youtube projection over the years. Anyway it was a great video, I had a lot of fun and rewatched it again today already. In some moments, especially the scone argument at high tea, I was seriously feeling like I was just third wheeling on a date. Like... should I be here with you two?

I love all the lurkers joining in, welcome! As former lurker, I'm often fighting the urge to just silently step back into the shadows

I can kind of understand your point about Phil. I guess he doesn't want to share his most personal feelings the way Dan has shared his and that's understandable. Personally, like a decade back I wasn't the biggest fan of AmazingPhil solo videos because I felt like there was somewhat of a children's entertainer persona going on. I enjoyed Phil a lot more after the gaming channel renaissance, and I very much prefer the current, especially podcast-Phil

I am still trying to break out of this stupor! Throughout the day, I find myself daydreaming about them (in a isn't it lovely kind of way) and I'm at a point where I would very much like to stop now, brain, thanks! They've even entered my dreams I love all the new content but I agree, there's so much! And I just find myself watching them several times, like just watching once isn't enough to process everything.

One note from the Patreon director's commentary, Phil said that they were recognized 'quite a bit' during that day, as in all the encounters weren't included in the video. I wonder if they find it stressful? I know I would, but I guess they're used to it by now. Also, they talked further about the Cupid's pod and I have no reason to believe they would lie about it. I was mostly cackling just how awkward it must have been with the staff in there. Phil also mentioned that if you used the Cupid's pod to propose you wouldn't be alone, apparently usually there's just one person, but still, not exactly private And it looks like just a regular private rotation is from £650 and a proposal from £1390, jesus christ...

Did everyone see Phil's story about going on on a spooky road trip? I wonder if we get any spooky gaming at all? They're churning a lot of content out, hopefully they're mindful of not being too eager now, burning themselves out and we're left waiting weeks for further content

[parallel]

One note from the Patreon director's commentary, Phil said that they were recognized 'quite a bit' during that day, as in all the encounters weren't included in the video. I wonder if they find it stressful? I know I would, but I guess they're used to it by now.

I don't think so. They've said many times that they find it lovely to meet subscribers. Knowing Dan, if they didn't like it, he would've at some point said "hey please stop approaching us on the street" in annoyance. They have also said on various occasions when fans are going too far e.g. going to their home addresses or in the hard launch video about "archaeology", but have never made similar comments about being approached on the street. Maybe they find it slightly tiring but it's not like these are negative or high-stakes interactions; it's someone who follows you online and enjoys the content you create for the public. It is also "part of the job", they've constantly chosen very public-facing careers as entertainers, so naturally if you're successful you will have fans who will recognise you.

[LAshleigh]

Well that was quite a quotable episode now wasn't it

[dumbslet]

Listened to the second episode of the podcast on my commute this morning and enjoyed it. They're getting into a better groove with it and it's feeling much more like a stereo yap, which is comforting because of how familiar it feels. The hard launch segment isn't quite hitting for me yet but hopefully the submissions will get better/more curated over time.

I think at this point I consume their content because it's familiar and comforting and I've followed them for years, so it's like catching up with an old pal (parasocial who) and seeing what they've been up to. I wouldn't seek out their content for its content, if you know what I mean. They're just my comfort d&p.

[PolarFox]

Caught up with the phodcast yet again and omg???? I asked for expedition 33 yap and they somewhat delivered? Please tell me more.

I'm tempted to send something to the hard launch segment but I think I'd hate equally not being picked and being picked so maybe I'll hold out on that. I think I'll need to rewatch it when I'm not post painkiller nap kind of out of it because I cannot with them dropping their first time meeting lore. I met my now fiance on a videogame where our characters looked the same and that got us talking so they got me with that one PERSONALLY.

[fondsmiles]

I loved the new episode!! Much more what I had hoped their podcast would be. It seems they are growing into it and the pressure of the first episode is falling off. Now just make it double the length please!

[fondsmiles]

I am so happy we got another gaming video! In all the new content it feels cozy to come back to something familiar.

[Grey]

Today's spookyweek video was so fun. I love this new "out and about" content they're making!!

[kenuub]

another long-time lurker here! catching up w the new content & currently freaking out. also why are they so prettyy? life AND appearance glow up, love that for them. dan doesn't look a day older than 25

[LAshleigh]

Truly a Tiktok worthy of spooky week

[Kuu]

Okay, yes the baking video is unhinged as always, but jfc just how pretty Dan is. And clearly feeling himself in that outfit, good for him. Their instagram post is mad as well. Why does it look like Phil is significantly shorter than Dan in their first ig picture, has it been that way for some time or is Dan just finally standing fully up? And them homaging their first halloween

[LAshleigh]

[literally_formless]

Uhhhhhhhhh ::birds tweeting around my head::

[fondsmiles]

This is... crazy. I keep getting surprised by how much is changing and how much has always been there. I expected to see more openness and real character in Phil, but somehow wasn't expecting as much in Dan. But in this, he just seems free. (And yes, very attractive, holy shit. Proof that sexuality is a spectrum after all.)
I want that bread now.
And their retractable oven door.

[nøx]

Holy shit, I keep thinking it can't get more, and then it somehow always does.

[greyarea]

Dan visibly lights up whenever he gets to wear more feminine clothing, I hope he gets to explore this in a less gimmicky way in the future, I'm sure it would increase his confidence tenfold. There's an abundance of cute goth clothes out there, you can do better than Amazon, girl!!!

[fruitcriminals]

Just imagining the local deliveroo rider thinking dear god whenever i deliver here there's always something chaotic going on wtf do these guys get up to

[snoopysadie]

That video really spooked me.
I wish Phil had worn more black or something blue because it complements his skin a lot more and the eyes blah blah you know. They looked amazing tho. Look at Dan being his happy slutty self. So proud of him. I might go back to my AU fic where he's a fashion blogger/vlogger and meets Phil on a blind date and maybe finish it finally...
I'm so inspired.
Also, thoughts on femcatboy!Phil? I don't think he looked uncomfy at all with the cat boy concept (see the 2009 haloween gathering pics and HIS ENTIRE CHANNEL BACK IN THE DAY) but maybe the shorts were a little too small? Maybe he was showing much skin and that made him a bit unsure. I felt Dan at a 250% (literally relieved for the cuts every time he spread his legs or lifted his skirt ) and Phil maybe at 80%? Maybe that's just because Dan truly did enjoy the slutty vibe more and Phil has grown up and stopped being so thirsttrappy (again, old school Phil)...

Regardless, this was their best bake yet. Maybe they just had to open up about the collaboratively gay thing to unlock their full potential as bakers lol

One more thing that I didn't see mentioned much here: anyone else watching old content notice they joked about the soft launch thing more than a year ago? Can't remember the video yet but it's SO WILD to realise that they've been thinking about the phodcast for so long... and planning their coming out for longer than 6 months at least? Idk. I was one of those people who stopped caring about whether they were together in 2018 because I was already getting the content I liked and didnt need their bond to be defined to have it presented right in front of my salad.... but now I look back at it and I'm just like.... omg they were almost screaming it. It's crazy. I've been sick this week and only watched them exclusively. I feel like I'm 20 again whaaat