Phil use to be, not that bad, but in recent years… he's gone worse, i don't know if it's because his persona, or is just he didn't create those characters so he can't fully understand them. Dan is not that bad compare to Phil.Rigby wrote:Really? I've always though his acting in "Who Stole my Sofa?" was quite bad:Breatherepeat wrote:
Random comment, Phil is the better actor.
This is a really interesting perspective because I think it's something I personally struggle with when it comes to viewing D&P (or more specifically Phil because I only recently started watching Dan) as internet celebrities. Youtube has made the jump from a social media platform to an entertainment platform, but I'm still stuck between viewing Phil through that friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend sense and the pop-culture-idol-entertainer sense. It's why I'd never want to really meet them now, because I have no idea how I'd react to them.Lurktacularr wrote: So he can be the older senpai to his younger fans, and a cute little munchkin to older fans, but how does he act for fans who are just like him? People who he's potentially be friends with if he wasn't danisnotonfire. It leaves him more vulnerable because there's nothing to hide behind. So I don't blame him in the slightest for being awkward because people like us essentially pull of his mask. And for someone who makes a living from being in almost complete control of what they show of themselves (not to start the persona debate) that must be quite scary. Particularly if you're not hugely confident in your real self.
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I went to a comic con once and met Tom Felton. And it was so awkward cuz I'm a HP fan in general not a big fan of him. And we had the most awkward conversation, he asked where i from, i told him china, and he said "i was gonna do a movie there once, but it didn't work out." And i was like "oh okay…" and awkward silence. Even though it was probably just 5 seconds it felt like forever. Even his manager who sat behind him looked awkward.angrymob wrote: [offtopic]Does anyone else find arranged meetings with people they're a fan of more awkward than accidental/unavoidable ones? I tend to nope out of meet&greet situations, but all my forced interactions have been fine. except for the time I had to ask Frank Iero if he could break a fifty for me
I liked busgate. Not sure if it was mentioned but they seem to have three buses now, after originally only having three.manged wrote:.......
Is busgate still a thing, because in the fan-shot footage filmed after their Kalamazoo show, you get a better look at the tourbus they're entering and a tiny glimpse of its interior.
I have met hundreds of celebrities, from scene-famous musicians to huge A-lister actors and lots in-between (it's a side effect of living in Los Angeles mostly). The amount of times those meetings were organized events like a meet & greet or signing, I can count on one hand.angrymob wrote:This is a really interesting perspective because I think it's something I personally struggle with when it comes to viewing D&P (or more specifically Phil because I only recently started watching Dan) as internet celebrities. Youtube has made the jump from a social media platform to an entertainment platform, but I'm still stuck between viewing Phil through that friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend sense and the pop-culture-idol-entertainer sense. It's why I'd never want to really meet them now, because I have no idea how I'd react to them.Lurktacularr wrote: So he can be the older senpai to his younger fans, and a cute little munchkin to older fans, but how does he act for fans who are just like him? People who he's potentially be friends with if he wasn't danisnotonfire. It leaves him more vulnerable because there's nothing to hide behind. So I don't blame him in the slightest for being awkward because people like us essentially pull of his mask. And for someone who makes a living from being in almost complete control of what they show of themselves (not to start the persona debate) that must be quite scary. Particularly if you're not hugely confident in your real self.
[offtopic]Does anyone else find arranged meetings with people they're a fan of more awkward than accidental/unavoidable ones? I tend to nope out of meet&greet situations, but all my forced interactions have been fine. except for the time I had to ask Frank Iero if he could break a fifty for me
CAMO DAN. I am loving it.missemma wrote: Also, I am just coming here to post this picture of them from last night because I just want to say Dan looks shit hot in that camo jumper (with added sweater paws). Literally all he needs to wear is some DM boots and this photo would be perfect. Pushed back hair, skinny jeans, camo =
I meant more that the awkwardness comes from my side of the meeting, haha, sort of in response to mazza's comment about being fannish when meeting D&P. The person you're meeting is obviously a variable, though I've been lucky enough to only have good encounters with people so far.cora808 wrote: I have met hundreds of celebrities, from scene-famous musicians to huge A-lister actors and lots in-between (it's a side effect of living in Los Angeles mostly). The amount of times those meetings were organized events like a meet & greet or signing, I can count on one hand.
I can say with absolute certainty the resulting interaction is totally based on the person and the scenario. There are certain people I wish I'd met at an organized event because in the wild, they were kind of assholes (had it been, perhaps I wouldn't have a distaste for them now and would have kept a positive opinion). Others were genuine and sweet and like talking to friends. Sometimes you get negative reactions from celebs, even if you're totally not bothering them during dinner or what have you and you just happened to be next to them on a train or something, because they just happen to be in a shitty mood and don't want to get recognized.
My roommate has complained about not feeling comfortable going to the grocery store without being done up and in the mood because he sometimes runs into fans (and I've seen reports of not-so-happy fans who's been on the other end of meeting him in moments like that).
As an example, I've met Pink twice. Once in the VIP section of a comedy festival. I asked for a photo and she kinda barked NO at me, then giggled and said "Oh um..my dude's leaving now so I gotta go sorry" and ran off.
The other time, I ran into her at a bar. She was wasted and in a great mood and I offered to buy her a drink. She thanked me and said she had plenty and grabbed me by the hand and forced me into the booth she was in and made me do a shot with her and gave me a huge hug.
i think phil's just better at improvising than dan is. their call or deletes are used as pretty frequent examples but they're the best examples out there. phil is able to take a loose concept and run wild with it meanwhile dan needs to be able to map out what he's going to be able to say and do.akui wrote:Phil use to be, not that bad, but in recent years… he's gone worse, i don't know if it's because his persona, or is just he didn't create those characters so he can't fully understand them. Dan is not that bad compare to Phil.Rigby wrote:Really? I've always though his acting in "Who Stole my Sofa?" was quite bad:Breatherepeat wrote:
Random comment, Phil is the better actor.
Dan was really aggressive in becoming youtube and it was really hot
Idk about the blossom jumper but I got the Xmas jumper and that did shrink a little bit in the wash (but I also tumble dried it so that can make a difference). It wasn't a huge amount, but it was noticeable.lavenderpetals wrote:
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I don't even care that it is a yeezy jumper, Dan looks good.missemma wrote:Also, I am just coming here to post this picture of them from last night because I just want to say Dan looks shit hot in that camo jumper (with added sweater paws). Literally all he needs to wear is some DM boots and this photo would be perfect. Pushed back hair, skinny jeans, camo =
missemma wrote:Also, I am just coming here to post this picture of them from last night because I just want to say Dan looks shit hot in that camo jumper (with added sweater paws). Literally all he needs to wear is some DM boots and this photo would be perfect. Pushed back hair, skinny jeans, camo =
alittledizzy wrote: The thing about this is that - you met a version of Dan and Phil. I don't really think that version was necessarily any more or less real than the version people at meet and greets get to see, though. They will be different in a group setting with fans hyping the energy than they will be in a fan who approach them in a quieter setting on the street. But they'd also be different if you met them and you were a friend, or if you were a family member, or if they were at a party drunk, or if you were in a professional setting, or if you were the receptionist in a doctor's office, etc etc. We all put on different faces for different people and different circumstances. No one is exactly the same person from every scenario to the next. What makes us up as people are all the faces we have for all the situations that we'll find ourselves in.
I don't at all doubt that Dan puts on a game face when going to a meet and greet/going onstage, but it doesn't seem any less like a real part of Dan than the guy on the street. It's just the part of him that he chooses to project on that stage as part of his job.
agree completely with that. It is a lot more stressful to be judged by your peers and people at the same stage of you (be it age, experience etc.), I think it is because we know or maybe more accurately feel that the judgement will be a lot more objective. It won't be coloured by their different experience and as easy to brush off. I am the same as you, I fear the judgement of other people my age/ other people similar to me a lot more.Lurktacularr wrote:I feel like Dan is likely to be more awkward with the likes of us in IDB because we're, for the most part, a much more similar age to him and/or Phil than the majority of fans he meets.
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But when its someone I see as similar to me, I'm way more reserved and conscious of how I'm coming across. Does that make sense in any way?
So he can be the older senpai to his younger fans, and a cute little munchkin to older fans, but how does he act for fans who are just like him? People who he's potentially be friends with if he wasn't danisnotonfire. It leaves him more vulnerable because there's nothing to hide behind. So I don't blame him in the slightest for being awkward because people like us essentially pull of his mask. And for someone who makes a living from being in almost complete control of what they show of themselves (not to start the persona debate) that must be quite scary. Particularly if you're not hugely confident in your real self.
To me, THAT is relatable shit. Oh the irony.
I completely agree with these. And I can understand where Dan is coming from being that awkward when meeting a fan closer to his and Phil's age because I am the same. As daphenaxa and alittledizzy said it is more stressful being judged by someone of your own age than someone older or younger but in my case it's not only that. I am not a shy person and quite friendly but extremely awkward and socially inept and every time me and my bff are somewhere out in public together and we meet a friend/acquaintance/friend of a friend (complete stranger to us) of hers, close to our age, that I didn't previously know of my "stranger mode" turns on and I get all shy and quiet and just like Dan,I just stay there and let her talk and give off this awkward vibe until I am done with analyzing this new person and feel comfortable enough to say/ do anything. And again just like Dan, I am way more comfortable to have a fixed script and to know exactly what to say and when. Is this making any sense? Anyway I think this might be the same reason Dan is so quiet irl when meeting some fans.daphenaxa wrote:agree completely with that. It is a lot more stressful to be judged by your peers and people at the same stage of you (be it age, experience etc.), I think it is because we know or maybe more accurately feel that the judgement will be a lot more objective. It won't be coloured by their different experience and as easy to brush off. I am the same as you, I fear the judgement of other people my age/ other people similar to me a lot more.Lurktacularr wrote:I feel like Dan is likely to be more awkward with the likes of us in IDB because we're, for the most part, a much more similar age to him and/or Phil than the majority of fans he meets.
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But when its someone I see as similar to me, I'm way more reserved and conscious of how I'm coming across. Does that make sense in any way?
So he can be the older senpai to his younger fans, and a cute little munchkin to older fans, but how does he act for fans who are just like him? People who he's potentially be friends with if he wasn't danisnotonfire. It leaves him more vulnerable because there's nothing to hide behind. So I don't blame him in the slightest for being awkward because people like us essentially pull of his mask. And for someone who makes a living from being in almost complete control of what they show of themselves (not to start the persona debate) that must be quite scary. Particularly if you're not hugely confident in your real self.
To me, THAT is relatable shit. Oh the irony.
As for meeting them, I am not as picky as you guys. I guess I would prefer randomly because the environment around wouldn't be as stressful with screaming people and security yadiyada. But I would take whatever. After all I just wanna see Dan up close and hug him
last thing, I am not into that camouflage sweater because I don't like camo clothes at all. The colours are ugly and the significance is uglier. Knowing it is kanye comforts me in my dislike.
basically THISidk wrote: I feel like the typical relationship between a youtuber and a viewer is one of voyeurism, right? I watch them do whatever they’re doing and they don’t know I exist in a sense. I’m just a number on their view count (I never comment on or like videos).
) but hotdamndan! that photo is just amazing cuz yeah, it looks like he's wearing high boots. yes i know where i belong 
This is another very good point. I've had casual celebrity encounters being introduced through mutual friends and I've had (many more) meet and greet/autograph line type encounters and the ones that I get to enjoy huge build up to with my friends or share the experience in a group with are the ones I remember more fondly. And I didn't quote it but you nailed my whole intention with my posts yesterday - it's 80% about me and 20% about them. I don't know that fans approaching them on the street make them uncomfortable and I don't judge anyone who prefers that or aims for that - my opinions are based on how that meeting would make me feel.It would make me uncomfortable for all the reasons so many people have stated so well in this discussion.internetakeover wrote:The concept of meeting them casually is kind of more scary because I know I'd struggle with not having anything prepared to say, and would probably end up spending half my time totally overanalysing their behaviour, making me more awkward and slow to react. A surprise meeting would lack the community feel and build up to a ridiculous fan mindset of an M&G, which I quite enjoyed, and I think I'd end up being hyperaware of my behaviour and analytical of theirs, and not just simply enjoying it. Also I think I'd rather they didn't really remember and pay close attention to me, actually, and might feel safer in the anonymity of a M&G. It would be a very different beast; meeting them IRL would become more about them, more of an equal interaction, and that seems more intimidating, though I now really want it just for the difference in experience! A controlled interaction is appealing, I know my role and they know theirs, something outside of that would leave me floundering - and I think that's a 'kind of socially anxious' thing rather than a 'massive fan, built them up too much' thing, but lbr it's probably a bit of both!
Wow, that must be the ugliest piece of clothing I've seen on Dan. Sorry guys, camo is not about fashion for me, it's about military. And I hate it. And it's ugly. Even the potato sack is better, potatoes are fairly innocent. Sweater paws tho = total cuteness.missemma wrote:manged wrote: Also, I am just coming here to post this picture of them from last night because I just want to say Dan looks shit hot in that camo jumper (with added sweater paws). Literally all he needs to wear is some DM boots and this photo would be perfect. Pushed back hair, skinny jeans, camo =
