Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

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Diyes_Celine wrote:
I will not link it because I know a lot of people don't like him but Onision (OnisionSpeaks) just made a video "Why Do Youtubers Hate Phan?" I know he's a problematic person but for me he was never the type who patronize someone for the sake of views. I mean he gains views from his hate videos. I actually mentioned this because I agree with what he said that some (or even most) people who hate the phandom simply hate them because of their intensity and power in Youtube/Tumblr/Twitter. Also, I like him coz he never bashed Phil.
No. I am not justifying that fact that I tried to sass a fan on Tumblr listing down why he/she left the phandom and tagging the post with danisnotonfire and amazingphil. I slightly regret my decision but just watched GOT so I want to watch the world burn.
"And no I did not just demonize all of Kpop because of the actions of one musician... Yes I did"
Okay, I really dislike this guy but I have to admit that part made me laugh out loud.
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Lain wrote:
bluebox-away wrote: Good thing I downloaded that Vine though, maybe we should add a copy to the DD?
It was added to the DD, thankfully.

Just a reminder that I still lurk and keep myself and the DD updated on all the latest stuff.
I'm too bored of Dan and Phil these days to actually write anything about them, but I'm around.
Oh, I thought of something to say! Kind of. I've been wearing my Galaxy backpack a lot recently, and... IT'S SO EFFECTIVE??? I keep getting random compliments from people. "Whoa nice backpack!", "Where did you get that?", "Lol ur backpack's spaced out dude". I used to be a simple fan of the backpack but now I full-on ship it with myself for all eternity, amen.

<-- me and backpack
*off to read that article because yay, interesting*
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Diyes_Celine wrote:I have nothing to add to the previous discussions (coz most of the posts were blocked by the office's firewall) other than if someone should know D&P's relationship status besides PJ (especially back in the day) it's Charlieskies. He was after all Phil's Nine of Cups Reversed - it denotes grasping for the illusion or mistaken possibility of such stability.

I want to share the following:

Digital Love: The Promises and Perils of Online Fandom
http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/digi ... ne-fandom/
The issues raised on this article were definitely discussed here and on the other forum before but it was still a nice read especially from a Harvard's undergrad journal. The article discussed YT/Tumblr fan culture like shipping and monetary exploitation. Of course, was mentioned because they basically "rule" Tumblr. This article will also apply to how fans will react to their tour movie/documentary. I am not sure if one of you was the author of this article but .
It is an interesting article. I agree with the comment someone left. About how the author seemed to demonize the YouTubers gaining money from viewers. Why not? I don’t see anything wrong with it. The M&G “should” cost more, and the YouNow special messages etc. Both benefit the ‘Tuber and their audience. The former is able to support themselves (potentially) and the latter can get noticed or whatever from someone they admire in a safe and legitimate way. Actors do it, musicians do it, why not the internet-famous as well?

It was also interesting the the only other YouTubers mentioned were male, and all part of the LGBTQ+ community. All are currently out aside from D&P, but D&P’s relationship was the only relationship that was mentioned… Just something I noticed.

The author glazed over Pewdiepie, having the most followers. The only mention of a completely straight. (meaning there isn't really any speculation over his sexuality) I would have thought that the author would have then in the same vain (demonstrating the potential to have millions of followers) could have mentioned Jenna Marbles. If anything to recognize that woman can have a voice via YouTube as well.

All in all it is an interesting article. ;)
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greatnessflicker wrote: dan looks good but pls ffs stop trying to get your "good side"
Jeez I'm such Dan trash I'm so attracted to him in this photo. But yeah Phil's fringe looks terrible here!
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I really enjoy that artcicle, except for the missunderstanding in why people pay for leaving comments on younow, i think she? makes good points in the rest of it. Also she may be a D&P viewer or she is related to fandoms.

Good insight to people outside the youtube loop
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Please don't give Onision video views :(
He's a really, really bad person.
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wtfamidoinghere wrote:
lovelizx wrote: I was wondering what you guys think about their uploading schedule or lack there of? :D
I'm somewhat understanding with their main channels. Their videos aren't artistic masterpieces that need weeks of planning and execution, but they usually try to make something that requires an (original) idea and those don't come easily to everybody.
Imo their channels look like they don't have the right ideas right now. Phil is doing better, but his videos seem a bit forced to mee too (but that could just be me). Dan's channel really doesn't leave any doubt with me that he's in a creative low. The few videos he's uploaded recently (or in over a year) have been collabs or something like reacting to old/baby videos. So i can't be angry at them for that

Their gaming channel is different though. They'd just need to sit down and get filming :roll:

Generally they both seem like they overthink everything way too much, especially Dan. Also i think they should learn to delegate their workload. I get that they don't want to give up any creative decisions, but there are a lot of things that could easily be done by someone else without losing authenticity. The planning of the tour comes to mind. They could have hired people to plan and organize while still being in control of the actual stageshow.
This is a bit backward in topic (you all move fast) but I agree with this, especially the overthinking. I think they do a lot in the background and have side projects we don't realize, and then try to do a lot themselves and not delegate. Like, I swear Phil mentioned at one point he was the one on the phone with one of the venues? I understand that would be incredibly time consuming, and less time for videos and what not, but why in the world was he the one doing that part? They desperately need to hire someone to do all those little things. It's okay, they will not accidentally out you if they book/chat with the venue staff or buy props for a video.

But yeah, the time between videos can be frustrating.
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:Nice mental image Phil. Ta.
And dairy. I give up.
Boy, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait til you get to Texas and Arizona.

And somebody please get this child some tofutti cuties or some vegan soft serve or something :facepalm:
And it's another two weeks till Texas. They might die. I lived there for a year and the summer was just.so.hot. It was like, you go outside, physically melt, and then buy some ice cream, only to watch it melt in approximately three seconds.
But there might just be phan in shorts, and that could be fun.
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Well I for one prefer Phil's lego hair than fringe gap :lol:

Totally off topic but when I saw this it reminded me of and should do it the right way au natural 8-)
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sweetmm wrote:
Totally off topic but when I saw this it reminded me of and should do it the right way au natural 8-)


I want to believe they already have (mentally, at least), but yes, for the audience, please!
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Lain wrote:
sweetmm wrote:
Totally off topic but when I saw this it reminded me of and should do it the right way au natural 8-)


I want to believe they already have (mentally, at least), but yes, for the audience, please!
Regardless of how serious this is I could see them doing it as a joke and actually making it good.
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eevee wrote:
Lain wrote:
sweetmm wrote:
Totally off topic but when I saw this it reminded me of and should do it the right way au natural 8-)


I want to believe they already have (mentally, at least), but yes, for the audience, please!
Regardless of how serious this is I could see them doing it as a joke and actually making it good.
Yeah, most probably in the Manchester Lester's residence back in 2009 :lol:
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I'm cringing at Phil's hair in that photo, he literally does look like LEGO , but his haircut hasn't looked alright to me for the past 2 years anyway... Push it back already ;_;

That reminds me, my best friend who is a casual Phan (especially compared to me) actually drunk texted me at some ungodly hour in the morning last week just to say that Phil needs a better haircut. Not sure what made her do that, aside from alcohol, I'm afraid to ask :')
IckleMissMayhem wrote:Also - TATINOF USA will be over in a month. We're halfway peeps.
Thank fuck for that. I say as I realize we'll be getting more of this when they go to Europe, Australia, the Moon, Pluto, etc.
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I miss Dan in earrings, he hasn't worn any in a video since October, none in a liveshow since August, no casual sightings out and about. Fuck the nail polish, somebody bring him some sterile earrings.
(Obviously joking, don't force things on him he doesn't want. But :( is he not into them anymore? or just genuinely misplaces them too much [as he said in a liveshow when asked] and didn't bother bringing any along to the US). They look so good on him doesn't he know?
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fancybum wrote:I miss Dan in earrings, he hasn't worn any in a video since October, none in a liveshow since August, no casual sightings out and about. Fuck the nail polish, somebody bring him some sterile earrings.
(Obviously joking, don't force things on him he doesn't want. But :( is he not into them anymore? or just genuinely misplaces them too much [as he said in a liveshow when asked] and didn't bother bringing any along to the US). They look so good on him doesn't he know?
+1 for Dan's earrings! Has anyone noticed if he wears them in the show?
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Catallena wrote: Thank fuck for that. I say as I realize we'll be getting more of this when they go to Europe, Australia, the Moon, Pluto, etc.
i highly doubt we'll be getting shows in aus. too far/expensive to travel for like 5 shows. at least with their 500 date USA tour they know they'll be making the money back but aus is probably too much of a risk
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Watching old videos and came across this golden interview. This was actually one of my favorite interviews ever just because I really enjoyed Phil taking the question while Dan took the backseat, it was a great change in dynamic. (Also I lowkey ship #phimmy too ) I really enjoyed how calm and mature Phil came out in this interview. He really seemed to consider each question and give really appropriate responses That is a huge contrast from present day where his answers are more controlled and repetitive. I also loved him opening up about being self-conscious as a child because it was a side of vulnerability that Phil never seems to shows us. Him talking about being too shy to phone the hairdresser really gave me perspective on Phil's past shyness. I can understand now why he is always in the background in the M&G, even if he has overcome his shyness and is confident he may still find things like that overwhelming. Also this and reading TABINOF made me realize how much Phil relied on his family- his mother, and even his brother (for college advice) to lead him and how difficult it may have been for him to transition to being fully independent. All in all, one of my favorite interviews and a rare perspective on some serious Phil Lester.

Some notable timestamps:
2:26 Dan and Phil portion starts

4:50- Dan's face immediately changes from laughing to serious after he hears Jimmy call his boy cute :lol:

7:00 Dan's face when Phil talks about asking someone out- he looks like he's taking a trip down memory lane then his romantic description of flower on a beach

7:36 REALLY DAN?! This is the exact same advice you give 3 years later to win your crush

Other random thing- Jimmy and then later Phil refer to prospective partners as boyfriend/girlfriend, Phil may just be mirroring Jimmy but I'm optimistic that he was referring to himself in this situation

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Love love love that interview. I would so love for D&P to collab with Jimmy

Also kinda sorta relevant to Dan I suppose, I was just watching Geordie Shore (yeah I'm Geordie Shore trash leave me alone) and thought this was a funny coincidence:
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Can u tell I'm procrastinating from studying :gg:
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cora808 wrote:Please don't give Onision video views :(
He's a really, really bad person.
+1. I couldn't care less about opinions coming from his sorry ass.
sunday wrote:Love love love that interview. I would so love for D&P to collab with Jimmy

Also kinda sorta relevant to Dan I suppose, I was just watching Geordie Shore (yeah I'm Geordie Shore trash leave me alone) and thought this was a funny coincidence:
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Can u tell I'm procrastinating from studying :gg:
What would have happened if Dan had studied in Newcastle instead of Manchester?
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[offtopic]1d chat and under spoiler because i'm so late to this conversation
I actually went through most of my 1d phase not really getting involved with any ships, but early last year, I started reading a lot into larry, then eventually ziam and all the modest drama. I remember when zayn left, everyone freaked out with their conspiracy theories. (I'm still proud to say that I was at one of the last concerts that zayn performed at) The ziam blogs on tumblr were always arguing with the 'larries' and there were just constant shitstorms. Ashamedly, I was convinced by all these conspiracy theories that the baby was a coverup for larry and that briana was employed by modest. Eventually, I grew tired of all this and took a break from being in any fandom. But then I started getting into the phandom and reading into dan and phil. Before that, I would just watch d&p casually like any other youtuber, but now i'm just like all of you :platonic:
I can definitely say that the evidence larry and ziam shippers had is nowhere near as convincing as phan proof. Whether we discount 2009 or not, the fact that they've lived together for so long, they still don't seem to be sick of each other, there haven't been any reportings of other partners wouldn't the antiphans eat that up and so much more, is much more convincing than "They lived together for a few months" or "All their girlfriends were beards hired by their evil management".
i don't know just my late 2 cents
tl;dr too many shitstorms in 1d fandom so I started getting into deppy and phan is more believable for me incomparison to larry or ziam
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fancybum wrote:I miss Dan in earrings, he hasn't worn any in a video since October, none in a liveshow since August, no casual sightings out and about. Fuck the nail polish, somebody bring him some sterile earrings.
(Obviously joking, don't force things on him he doesn't want. But :( is he not into them anymore? or just genuinely misplaces them too much [as he said in a liveshow when asked] and didn't bother bringing any along to the US). They look so good on him doesn't he know?
It does seem like it has been a while since we last saw him wearing his earrings, sadly. I always thought he looked good in them.

That is a great interview indeed kuensukki.
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Ticia wrote:
sunday wrote:Love love love that interview. I would so love for D&P to collab with Jimmy

Also kinda sorta relevant to Dan I suppose, I was just watching Geordie Shore (yeah I'm Geordie Shore trash leave me alone) and thought this was a funny coincidence:
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Can u tell I'm procrastinating from studying :gg:
What would have happened if Dan had studied in Newcastle instead of Manchester?
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i'm not that well informed about geordie shore or newcastle (tho i've actually been there) but i know enough to LOLOL at this :lol: if i was any good at photoshop i'd morph dan's face on this :mrgreen: edit: this guy even has earrings. +1 on missing dan's earrings! where are they?! why isn't he wearing them anymore
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Wasn't there a ls where Dan essentially said there will be no more earrings? People on GG speculated he wanted to clean up his image, too
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karma_yeah wrote:
fancybum wrote:I miss Dan in earrings, he hasn't worn any in a video since October, none in a liveshow since August, no casual sightings out and about. Fuck the nail polish, somebody bring him some sterile earrings.
(Obviously joking, don't force things on him he doesn't want. But :( is he not into them anymore? or just genuinely misplaces them too much [as he said in a liveshow when asked] and didn't bother bringing any along to the US). They look so good on him doesn't he know?
+1 for Dan's earrings! Has anyone noticed if he wears them in the show?
He does not wear them in the show.
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He was wearing them for the pre-filmed Brits stuff... and before that at the Star Wars premiere.
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if i was any good at photoshop i'd morph dan's face on this :mrgreen:
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:D :D :D

this is apparently the kind of shit I'm putting my university education in graphic design to use for and I regret nothing
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I'm not sorry, but I think Phil is :lol:
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