i don't care about phils family. i don't want to know that he is a family, i don't want to know what his favourite cereal is, i want to know what he is actually like. all we hear about is his cereal or his plants or his anime. that's the problem, he can talk about that all he wants, but when that's ALL he talks about im left wondering if he actually has a real personality at all. i don't need him to make political statements or talk about his worst moments but even in tweets or liveshows he doesn't talk about anything but the select few things that fit what he wants. people need to cling to 4 year old tumblr posts or statements from other people about what music or films he likes, and that's as deep as it gets. believe it or not, you can dislike things and not be a miserable shell of negativity, he can say he vaguely dislikes something and still have a channel that's immune from all criticism because 'it makes me smile!!!!'.danphil333 wrote:Well i see enough of phils likes, dislikes, hobbies, fears, traits both on AP and outside. Even the most boring things like his favorite cereal. At least i know there is phils family out there and its not a taboo mentioning them, i can imagine phil doing normal everyday stuff like interacting with people and going to the store without making it a big deal. There is no need to show so much negativity for everything to be "enough" of a person.jaej wrote: ok but i don't mean complex in a special way, i mean 'acts like a normal human and not a cartoon character with 2 interests'. by making it obvious, i mean you have to assume 'fuck, he must be a real human, nobody actually lives like that'. if you have to look for the best in someone to just see them as an actual person with multiple likes, dislikes, hobbies, fears, traits - all of which dan shows at least outside of dinof while phil doesn't - that isn't a good thing. especially not when they're meant to be sharing their life as part of the platform.
you really can't accept that dan gets criticised. even dan stans, especially here, call him out when needed. the outcry and defence in response to phil being called a bit boring or impersonal is as severe as the response to people calling dan a fake, liar, untalented, attention whore etc. phil barely gets criticised and gets protected when he does, and it definitely isn't for any talent, because he doesn't offer anything new.
i mean when dan last year told the story about meeting a childhood friend i was left like. such a normal thing sounded so weird and important because dan normaly refuses to share anything about his normal life.
and you cant accept that some people see more in phil than what you see. Some people dont see the "childness" or dont see it as negative as you. it just what it is. You blame phil for what is actually the phandoms fault (angel smol bean, cinnamon roll who needs protection, the most creative yt, everyone copies him) i do the same with dan.. 'high five'.
neither of them offer any special "talent", they dont do anything groundbreaking or new. i dont expect my life to be changed because of
if i hated having a few tropes, id unfollow dan. but the point is that he also has other things. he talks about music he likes, he talks about silly events, he actually has discussions with people watching his liveshow rather than read out nothing but compliments like phil does. we know what music dan likes and his hobbies when he was younger and actually how he felt at school (not just 'he has a degree!!!') and how he reacts to different situations and ive been watching phil since 2008 and know less about him now than i did back then. i don't want him to share his family or anything like that, i want him to actually seem like a human with more than 4 bullet points of a personality
and no, the main reason i dislike phil is because he is infuriatingly boring and fake. he can't even make an interesting fake self. he ruins every video he's in for me and takes away from every situation he's in. he talks about how weird he is when all that means is that he likes things not primarily designed for him that lots of adults like and he likes to make fun of people who actually do things considered odd. id be terrified to meet him in case i said something unusual and get made fun of in a video with his eyes crossed and a tshirt over his head, all while he talks about positivity and being different
the fact that he gets defended like everyone else just doesn't understand how great he is makes it worse, but that's not why i dislike him. ive met plenty of obnoxious phil stans and i blame them, not him. and age doesn't play into it - not only did th older ones same the same stuff, they insisted anyone else just didn't get it, you're too young to appreciate, like.... socks or pancakes and stuff.
i was a classroom assistant for a few classes of 11-12 year olds now and then in the last year, and it's a popular age range where i live for d+p fans, and even some of them found phil boring and immature. younger age groups are turning to youtube because mainstream media treats them too young, when the 11-14 age group actually have normal, fun, appropriate content on youtube that doesn't treat them like kids but still identifies with them. childish doesn't mean it's FOR children, it just feels like it should be.
anyway, i definitely recognise that valentines day tweet, but that doesn't mean it's real. it would be 2011, probably, which isn't that unbelievable.
) - it makes me sad when I see comments on his videos (more and more since his most recent birthday) of fans saying they can't believe he's nearly thirty etc. I hope they don't feel that they somehow have to change themselves when they get to that grand old age!
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