Dan & Phil Part 2: lol bye gg

[angrymob]

maybe. I think interrupting a conversation without introducing yourself is the best course of action. It's what I have always done. People aren't likely to find you rude, but they may counter what you say, which is fine.

I know, that's basically what I did too. I just remember it being very intimidating at first, but with this forum you can kind of hang around, make some posts, and get to know some people before diving headlong into the dirty trenches of DP debates and analysis.

[trashqueen]

i love how many lurkers coming out from the shadows (welcome btw) are calling the gg thread elitist and stuff like that when we were literally the same people posting

we love you too guys

im jk

Nah, it was obviously an elitist group of people who had fast internet and unlimited patience and forethought to save their posts on such a buggy site. The rest of us were just mere mortals who weren't worthy.

But in reality, I think it was just the reputation of the site that made everyone seem very aggressive or dismissive (even when they weren't), as well as the fact that there was no way to really introduce yourself without interrupting a conversation.

i actually said something like this a few months ago when the gg thread was going through that one dramatic stage when we all kept fighting each other for some reason (i'm blaming d&p for not giving us things to talk about) and i think most people disagreed, but oh well, maybe it was the mood of the thread at the time idk

i think dan had it extremely easy at the time all thanks to phil, he never had to prove himself and start from zero, he basically had an audience willing to commit as fanbase from the start, and maybe that's still somewhere at the back of his mind making him insecure and making him feel like he has to prove himself

idk, as we know he's pretty self aware and feels the constant need to justify his actions, that might have something to do with it (although i'm pretty sure he doesn't care as much now as he might have a few years ago, closer to 2009, but still)

I think I may have agreed with you or I at least said the same opinion at another time. Dan definitely got to skip a few steps thanks to Phil. Starting off with a youtube friend that can promote you to their followers helps, since that is usually the hardest first step to acquire (making friends with popular youtubers that is),especially now that the recommendation system is different, so no hope of getting the front page. That being said, befriending Phil was probably another metaphorical dick that he metaphorically had to suck. Sure, much more metaphorically enjoyable since he got friendship out of it this metaphor is killing me, but it was still a bit along the lines of putting yourself out there in a vunerable way to beg for a collab, a guest spot, or a shout out. For get attention that he may not have gotten without Phil. And maybe the nakedbooths were just him attempting to get that first metaphorical dick to metaphorically suck in the first place. Climbing the ladder to success they say.

Now, the real question is whose dick did Phil metaphorically suck to get his first few subscribers?

i think phil started so early on that there was no dicks to suck, poor him

he probs did get a lot of bj's tho
i love this metaphor

i genuinely considered suggesting 'metaphorically sucking dick' as the next thread name, but we're hopefully gonna get some videos to quote before that happens so there's no point in doing it, and also idk if it's allowed

maybe. I think interrupting a conversation without introducing yourself is the best course of action. It's what I have always done. People aren't likely to find you rude, but they may counter what you say, which is fine.

I know, that's basically what I did too. I just remember it being very intimidating at first, but with this forum you can kind of hang around, make some posts, and get to know some people before diving headlong into the dirty trenches of DP debates and analysis.

that makes sense, it's making me feel like i'm very insensitive though, i joined in september and didn't give a fuck if i was interrupting anything

[akui]

i think dan had it extremely easy at the time all thanks to phil, he never had to prove himself and start from zero, he basically had an audience willing to commit as fanbase from the start, and maybe that's still somewhere at the back of his mind making him insecure and making him feel like he has to prove himself

idk, as we know he's pretty self aware and feels the constant need to justify his actions, that might have something to do with it (although i'm pretty sure he doesn't care as much now as he might have a few years ago, closer to 2009, but still)

I totally agree with this. I always see Dan as so conflicted, part confident and happy, pleased with what he's creating and where he's going, and part completely insecure and doubting every move. I mean that Tumblr/YouNow video was basically two minutes of him apologizing for being too sincerely appreciative ("soppy" in his words). They'd just finished these two huge accomplishments and I don't know, that's not something I think he should've felt he needed to apologize for. But therein lies the conflict, I guess. What a gemini istg

I also feel like we dissect Dan so much that I'd really like to crack open Phil that sounded wrong but he doesn't really give us much to go on, does he? Wonder if/when that will change.

Not to self promote but i think he does that because what i said yesterday about he internalize critics and criticize himself before anyone can do that to him. I'm pretty sure not many people would actually point at him and say "he got famous because he suck amazingphil's dick", (actually a lotta people would say the opposite) but he still in some degree embarrassed or even ashamed about his past. (Editing tips)

[daphenaxa]

I am 39 and I am going to tatinof by myself my daughter is 15 but she said she didn't want to go because of the phandom. I will be in the 7th row right in the middle and I am so excited. I didn't do a vip and I am kinda happy I can just enjoy going to the show and not have that stomach flippy over thing that happens when I go to meet and greets. So if anyone is going to the Milwaukee show on Sunday just look for the old lady with a big smile on her face proudly wearing her Dan and Phil shirt.

Love and Hugs

i think dan had it extremely easy at the time all thanks to phil, he never had to prove himself and start from zero, he basically had an audience willing to commit as fanbase from the start, and maybe that's still somewhere at the back of his mind making him insecure and making him feel like he has to prove himself

idk, as we know he's pretty self aware and feels the constant need to justify his actions, that might have something to do with it (although i'm pretty sure he doesn't care as much now as he might have a few years ago, closer to 2009, but still)

I totally agree with this. I always see Dan as so conflicted, part confident and happy, pleased with what he's creating and where he's going, and part completely insecure and doubting every move. I mean that Tumblr/YouNow video was basically two minutes of him apologizing for being too sincerely appreciative ("soppy" in his words). They'd just finished these two huge accomplishments and I don't know, that's not something I think he should've felt he needed to apologize for. But therein lies the conflict, I guess. What a gemini istg

I also feel like we dissect Dan so much that I'd really like to crack open Phil that sounded wrong but he doesn't really give us much to go on, does he? Wonder if/when that will change.

Not to self promote but i think he does that because what i said yesterday about he internalize critics and criticize himself before anyone can do that to him. I'm pretty sure not many people would actually point at him and say "he got famous because he suck amazingphil's dick", (actually a lotta people would say the opposite) but he still in some degree embarrassed or even ashamed about his past. (Editing tips)

is this really a gemini trait?? I feel so biter being defined and figured out by astro signs like that when I thought I was unique.

anyways I agree with this ...the internalised criticism. Dan always makes me think about this song oh no by my future wife Marina and the diamonds. "i feel like i am the worst so I always act like i am the best". and I am not saying he is a big show off but i do think he has problems with way too harsh criticism of himself and low self-esteem, problems that he turns into "relatable irony 101" as a coping mechanism but that also paralyse him creatively because good ideas are discarded too fast/too soon, which then creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of (relative) failure when he does poor content in a panic to put out something-anything.
but i also think he talked once about the fact that it was actually comforting, when you haven't tried your best, because if/when you fail, you have that security blanket of "well i didn't give it my all". I remember it stuck with me because i could tots understand.

[Martina]

i think dan had it extremely easy at the time all thanks to phil, he never had to prove himself and start from zero, he basically had an audience willing to commit as fanbase from the start, and maybe that's still somewhere at the back of his mind making him insecure and making him feel like he has to prove himself

idk, as we know he's pretty self aware and feels the constant need to justify his actions, that might have something to do with it (although i'm pretty sure he doesn't care as much now as he might have a few years ago, closer to 2009, but still)

I totally agree with this. I always see Dan as so conflicted, part confident and happy, pleased with what he's creating and where he's going, and part completely insecure and doubting every move. I mean that Tumblr/YouNow video was basically two minutes of him apologizing for being too sincerely appreciative ("soppy" in his words). They'd just finished these two huge accomplishments and I don't know, that's not something I think he should've felt he needed to apologize for. But therein lies the conflict, I guess. What a gemini istg

I also feel like we dissect Dan so much that I'd really like to crack open Phil that sounded wrong but he doesn't really give us much to go on, does he? Wonder if/when that will change.

Not to self promote but i think he does that because what i said yesterday about he internalize critics and criticize himself before anyone can do that to him. I'm pretty sure not many people would actually point at him and say "he got famous because he suck amazingphil's dick", (actually a lotta people would say the opposite) but he still in some degree embarrassed or even ashamed about his past. (Editing tips)

Yeah, that's true. You could say that they're both sucking each others dicks at this point metaphorically

I think you were totally right about what you said yesterday about him criticizing himself before anyone else can. It made me see him in a new light actually. Maybe I'll be more forgiving of all those outdated "I'm trash" jokes now.

anyways I agree with this ...the internalised criticism. Dan always makes me think about this song oh no by my future wife Marina and the diamonds. "i feel like i am the worst so I always act like i am the best". and I am not saying he is a big show off but i do think he has problems with way too harsh criticism of himself and low self-esteem, problems that he turns into "relatable irony 101" as a coping mechanism but that also paralyse him creatively because good ideas are discarded too fast/too soon, which then creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of (relative) failure when he does poor content in a panic to put out something-anything.
but i also think he talked once about the fact that it was actually comforting, when you haven't tried your best, because if/when you fail, you have that security blanket of "well i didn't give it my all". I remember it stuck with me because i could tots understand.

Yes!
Ugh Marina's lyrics are literally the best. I wonder if Dan likes her? Feels like it would be relatable for him

[angrymob]

anyways I agree with this ...the internalised criticism. Dan always makes me think about this song oh no by my future wife Marina and the diamonds. "i feel like i am the worst so I always act like i am the best". and I am not saying he is a big show off but i do think he has problems with way too harsh criticism of himself and low self-esteem, problems that he turns into "relatable irony 101" as a coping mechanism but that also paralyse him creatively because good ideas are discarded too fast/too soon, which then creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of (relative) failure when he does poor content in a panic to put out something-anything.
but i also think he talked once about the fact that it was actually comforting, when you haven't tried your best, because if/when you fail, you have that security blanket of "well i didn't give it my all". I remember it stuck with me because i could tots understand.

I had to double check at first to make sure it wasn't actually me that wrote this post when I read the bolded part, haha. Since we share a future wife, I feel a renewed kinship with you, even though you kinkshamed me earlier.

Dan seems to me to be the kind of person that is quite insecure, so he has difficulties admitting flaws. For people that are confident in their abilities, a flaw doesn't really negate their success and makes them human, but for people that are insecure, flaws can seem overpoweringly negative and you'd worry that they overshadow the positives. I noticed that particularly with that talk it out video they did for the BBC how Dan would constantly be a bit defensive and try to steer around the criticisms instead of just flat out owning up to them. And I wonder if that was because those things would be perceived by him as flaws in his personality and sit more heavily on his mind if he were to own up to them. He definitely seemed to treat them more as personality traits in his defenses, while Phil treated them more as just things he did that that he regrets.

[DryCereal]

I also feel like we dissect Dan so much that I'd really like to crack open Phil that sounded wrong but he doesn't really give us much to go on, does he? Wonder if/when that will change.

On the 12th of "ha! we wish!!!"

is this really a gemini trait?? I feel so biter being defined and figured out by astro signs like that when I thought I was unique.

"Sunshine and showers"
Geminis (and I'm including myself here too!) generally aren't known for hiding their emotions well either.

[deerly]

do most ppl under, say, 30, even know what Rocky Horror Picture Show is? Probably nah?

Haha of course we know! But maybe it's just that I'm a musical nerd and invested in queer culture

I love how so many people have joined and all the new posts.
Just wanted to say Hi and please never think what you are going to post is not worthy, or that your English is not good enough, every person that joins this forum is important and we all welcome whatever your thoughts are. And I am always blown away at the people that can write or speak in different languages you inspire me and a lot of times you sound better than I do.

This is such a lovely post, thank you!

That being said, befriending Phil was probably another metaphorical dick that he metaphorically had to suck. Sure, much more metaphorically enjoyable since he got friendship out of it this metaphor is killing me, but it was still a bit along the lines of putting yourself out there in a vunerable way to beg for a collab, a guest spot, or a shout out. For attention that he may not have gotten without Phil. And maybe the nakedbooths were just him attempting to get that first metaphorical dick to metaphorically suck in the first place. Climbing the ladder to success they say.

Ommg you made me cry laugh first thing in the morning, I want to print this and pin to my corkboard along with the IAMX tickets

I hope they do something for the 1st of April, at least with their twitter accounts

[akui]

anyways I agree with this ...the internalised criticism. Dan always makes me think about this song oh no by my future wife Marina and the diamonds. "i feel like i am the worst so I always act like i am the best". and I am not saying he is a big show off but i do think he has problems with way too harsh criticism of himself and low self-esteem, problems that he turns into "relatable irony 101" as a coping mechanism but that also paralyse him creatively because good ideas are discarded too fast/too soon, which then creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of (relative) failure when he does poor content in a panic to put out something-anything.
but i also think he talked once about the fact that it was actually comforting, when you haven't tried your best, because if/when you fail, you have that security blanket of "well i didn't give it my all". I remember it stuck with me because i could tots understand.

OMG yes you said what I trying to say but couldn't because sometimes english is just too much for me.

Yeah, that's true. You could say that they're both sucking each others dicks at this point metaphorically

Totally, that's what power couple do, they suck each other's dicks metaphorically.

[jaej]

(i think this is a bit late) i don't think there's going to be a rebranding from dinof, but i think how dinof is shown will change, if that makes sense? like, a year's worth of evolution skipped straight to the next mature point, rather than slowly changing over the course of careful marketing. i don't think either are at their best quality wise, but dan makes it very clear that he's aware of that. i do actually like his content right now, though.

[akui]

Don't know if you guys seen this, this is deppy in the brits back stage!


(click image can redirect you to the source, i new trick i just learned )

It's from Caroline Hirons's blog, she is a vlogger and a makeup artist. (i think? I don't know her very much except she is a gleamer)

[mermaid blood]

it's sad that only a year has passed and i already can't imagine them doing something like D&P crafts these days.

prove me wrong, deppy. don't make me regret the affectionate nickname

[oqua]

I think I may have agreed with you or I at least said the same opinion at another time. Dan definitely got to skip a few steps thanks to Phil. Starting off with a youtube friend that can promote you to their followers helps, since that is usually the hardest first step to acquire (making friends with popular youtubers that is),especially now that the recommendation system is different, so no hope of getting the front page. That being said, befriending Phil was probably another metaphorical dick that he metaphorically had to suck. Sure, much more metaphorically enjoyable since he got friendship out of it this metaphor is killing me, but it was still a bit along the lines of putting yourself out there in a vunerable way to beg for a collab, a guest spot, or a shout out. For attention that he may not have gotten without Phil. And maybe the nakedbooths were just him attempting to get that first metaphorical dick to metaphorically suck in the first place. Climbing the ladder to success they say.

Now, the real question is whose dick did Phil metaphorically suck to get his first few subscribers?

I must say, the connection between metaphorical and literal dick-sucking never even occurred to me. LOL.

When I found the song it I listened to it on repeat for like a whole day straight. It’s so catchy.

And the whole time, I just kept thinking of Dan, idk. I think the song articulates EXACTLY what he doesn’t ever ever want to do or be. And yet at the same time, ironically, I think Dan does (or at least did) desperately crave attention and has a certain kind of personality that makes him open to doing slightly demeaning things. For example, on DailyBooth, he was pretty willing to post whatever people wanted in order to attract followers (e.g. nakedbooths), and in at least one of the captions he straight-up said he felt like he was prostituting himself. I think he’s made that kind of remark on other occasions as well. So to me, the “YouTube Whore” song describes what very well could have been Dan, had he started YouTube while he was in a more vulnerable/desperate position, without the safety-net of his association with Phil. He’s actually been pretty lucky, in my opinion, and his early/continued success has given him a lot of privileges. He’s able to do things like never spon Audible, bash challenge videos, etc. But at the same time, I bet Dan has plenty of personal “walls of dicks” that he’s sucked. Maybe Phan itself is one. Who knows.

Sorry if this sounds really cynical.

Sorry for quoting myself, but here are some times when Dan referred to himself as a prostitute, if anyone is curious, idk:


(January 19th, 2016)
5:34 - “I was just gonna play it by myself, to like enjoy, and have a personal experience, not as just like a prostitute on the Internet doing it for attention, but I guess, you know, if you want me to share it with you I—I can. That’s fine.”

(September 26th, 2009)
.. i felt dirty after the picture i posted yesterday, like i just prostituted myself.
so i did something perfectly child-like and innocent, i climbed a tree

(October 13th, 2009)
400 follo!!.. NOPE.
IM NOT DOING IT.
GET OUT OF MY BATHROOM.

2DAYS.
its been 2 days, since i last indecently exposed myself on this website
>_< hahaha
and whilst the intentions are of course purely comical, im starting to feel like a prostitute.
so from 500 i may not do it every 100 followers to give your eyes have a chance to heal! haha.

(this is the caption of his shower nakedbooth)

[timtam]

ehhhh what the heck? Why does ticket master australia have an empty page of TATINOF?!

[url]http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/The-Amaz ... st/2215814

If they do end up coming to Australia, do you think they'll go to all the capital cities or just Sydney and Melbourne?

tyler oakley and superwoman went to Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne last year so I guess that's where d&p will go too?

I have absolutely no idea, i think it totally depends on how many ticket they predict they can sold, but australia is like their fourth place where they are most popular (i'm sorry the grammar is horrible), at least for phil, according to tabinof. So if canada went well, i'm pretty optimistic that they will go to all big cities. And New Zealand as well.

According to tabinof here's where Phil is the most popular: US, UK, Canada, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Ireland, New Zealand, Netherlands, Singapore.

TATINOF USA tickets were sold (mostly) on ticketmaster, maybe it's just an extension of that?
As an Australian, I would definitely go back home and see them again if they went to Sydney.

I know this was mentioned a while back but Ticketmaster will have pages for artists etc even if they aren't having any concerts/shows. Usually they have pages like that so you can subscribe to them and get reminders when tickets go on sale (if they ever do). Although they usually look a bit different to that page so who knows!

As for if they came to Australia I'd say definitely Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. And probably Adelaide. No other touring artist ever goes anywhere else so they definitely wouldn't. Australia is significantly harder to get around than the US so maybe not even Perth or Adelaide. There aren't a lot of other places in Australia that justify renting out a theatre and could guarantee a large audience - except for Canberra and Darwin (but no one goes to those places)
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[akui]

As for if they came to Australia I'd say definitely Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. And probably Adelaide. No other touring artist ever goes anywhere else so they definitely wouldn't. Australia is significantly harder to get around than the US so maybe not even Perth or Adelaide. There aren't a lot of other places in Australia that justify renting out a theatre and could guarantee a large audience - except for Canberra and Darwin (but no one goes to those places)

You know the only thought i have reading your post, is to buy all the timtam i could ever possibly find and give to them

[angrymob]

I must say, the connection between metaphorical and literal dick-sucking never even occurred to me. LOL.

I mean, I could've said it both ways, but I don't like spreading unconfirmed rumours.

Sorry for quoting myself, but here are some times when Dan referred to himself as a prostitute, if anyone is curious, idk:


(January 19th, 2016)
5:34 - “I was just gonna play it by myself, to like enjoy, and have a personal experience, not as just like a prostitute on the Internet doing it for attention, but I guess, you know, if you want me to share it with you I—I can. That’s fine.”

(September 26th, 2009)
.. i felt dirty after the picture i posted yesterday, like i just prostituted myself.
so i did something perfectly child-like and innocent, i climbed a tree

(October 13th, 2009)
400 follo!!.. NOPE.
IM NOT DOING IT.
GET OUT OF MY BATHROOM.

2DAYS.
its been 2 days, since i last indecently exposed myself on this website
>_< hahaha
and whilst the intentions are of course purely comical, im starting to feel like a prostitute.
so from 500 i may not do it every 100 followers to give your eyes have a chance to heal! haha.

(this is the caption of his shower nakedbooth)

It actually makes me really sad that he apparently felt like that while posting the photos, yet still continued to do so. Most of the comments he wrote under the dailybooths actually feel a lot younger than he was at the time, like I've heard similar things from 15 year olds, which leads me to think that maybe that was the trend in their social circles, what with Phil also acting younger than he was. I don't quite get it but I've been trying to seem older than I am online since I was 12 soooo...

[timtam]

As for if they came to Australia I'd say definitely Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. And probably Adelaide. No other touring artist ever goes anywhere else so they definitely wouldn't. Australia is significantly harder to get around than the US so maybe not even Perth or Adelaide. There aren't a lot of other places in Australia that justify renting out a theatre and could guarantee a large audience - except for Canberra and Darwin (but no one goes to those places)

You know the only thought i have reading your post, is to buy all the timtam i could ever possibly find and give to them

When we go to TATINOF as parents with our hired actor child we can give them a gift basket full of timtams (although I don't think timtams are as good as they used to be) and maybe throw some vegemite in there as well because no other food is so quintessentially Aussie.

[angrymob]

As for if they came to Australia I'd say definitely Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. And probably Adelaide. No other touring artist ever goes anywhere else so they definitely wouldn't. Australia is significantly harder to get around than the US so maybe not even Perth or Adelaide. There aren't a lot of other places in Australia that justify renting out a theatre and could guarantee a large audience - except for Canberra and Darwin (but no one goes to those places)

You know the only thought i have reading your post, is to buy all the timtam i could ever possibly find and give to them

When we go to TATINOF as parents with our hired actor child we can give them a gift basket full of timtams (although I don't think timtams are as good as they used to be) and maybe throw some vegemite in there as well because no other food is so quintessentially Aussie.

Your hopes for so many cities makes me nervous for you all. I'm still reeling over the fact that I convinced myself to go see them and then found out they're only doing one city in Canada, which I won't be able to do. why you so big Canada, why you so big? And DP, why you not abiding by the unspoken Canadian three city touring requirement?

[cucu]

i love how many lurkers coming out from the shadows (welcome btw) are calling the gg thread elitist and stuff like that when we were literally the same people posting

we love you too guys

im jk

lol If it's what it's worth i actually always thought the d&p thread was significantly nicer than some of the other gg threads, I just found the amount of intellectual discourse/discussion and debate interesting and also overwhelming as I had... nothing to say?? Like some of the people on here/there were so articulate and had such interesting viewpoints and it was slightly intimidating, in a way.

I honestly think Dan is due a fairly major rebrand after the tour. The whole danisnotonfire thing is just starting to become a bit cringe and I really think he is has outgrown it. From his liveshows, I get the sense that he's pretty unhappy with his content sometimes and wants to branch out, yet still feels like he's got this brand persona to live up to? Idk. I mean, internet support group was funny the first two, maybe three times... and now he's on what, seven? The whole format seems exhausted and I don't really enjoy much of his content anymore - the forced ""relatable"" crap reaches a point where it all seems so contrived and pandering to the awkward 14/15 yr old girl 'tumblr' audience. I truly appreciate Dan and I think his viewpoint on some matters are actually quite interesting; it would be nice to hear them in some other form than a 10 minute-long disjointed liveshow ramble. I also think Phil would benefit from a shake-up content wise, but I really don't see that happening anytime soon.

[karma_yeah]

[offtopic]There's a free outdoor music concert here going on all weekend because the NCAA Final Four (college basketball championships) is here this weekend. Panic at the Disco and Fall Out Boy play tonight. (PATD's set is 90 minutes long!)

Relevance: Two of D&Ps fav bands -- and maybe some of yours Personally, not going, I'm old-school R&B and I'm sure it will be packed beyond belief But my daughter is goingI (makes mom a little worried) Pitbull and Maroon 5 play Sunday. I do like them, but hate crowds and can listen to them on my iPhone, so not going

Also, I work at University of Houston coordinating the athletic scholarships and we are one of the hosts for the Final Four (not going, don't like sports or crowds)

Disclaimer:
a) I don't really like sports
b) I am morally opposed to the ridiculous amounts of money professional football/basketball/baseball players make while there are children in this country and around the world who go hungry
c) over the years, and there have been many of those! I have argued against the whole mixing sports with academia, and the existence of the NCAA entirely, but I was working in academic scholarships and the athletic scholarships coordinator left and I got assigned there against my will.
d) I stay because fortunately 99% of the students are wonderful, sweet, respectful kids, many of whom have come from tough backgrounds, and for whom getting a chance to graduate from college can literally mean the difference between life as a productive citizen and a life in jail or worse, so . . .

And again, if you read all this, bless you[/offtopic]

[akui]

As for if they came to Australia I'd say definitely Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. And probably Adelaide. No other touring artist ever goes anywhere else so they definitely wouldn't. Australia is significantly harder to get around than the US so maybe not even Perth or Adelaide. There aren't a lot of other places in Australia that justify renting out a theatre and could guarantee a large audience - except for Canberra and Darwin (but no one goes to those places)

You know the only thought i have reading your post, is to buy all the timtam i could ever possibly find and give to them

When we go to TATINOF as parents with our hired actor child we can give them a gift basket full of timtams (although I don't think timtams are as good as they used to be) and maybe throw some vegemite in there as well because no other food is so quintessentially Aussie.

Your hopes for so many cities makes me nervous for you all. I'm still reeling over the fact that I convinced myself to go see them and then found out they're only doing one city in Canada, which I won't be able to do. why you so big Canada, why you so big? And DP, why you not abiding by the unspoken Canadian three city touring requirement?

I don't think this is it for canada? I think there are definitely more shows that haven't been announced yet, but of course i could be wrong.

[swofro]

I sometimes think Dan is out of idea to find something relatable to translate into the form of video. I mean, he is not really relatable if he is a millionaire is it? (I am not hating on him or his money by the way. I actually feel uncomfortable talking about it. Haha)
All he has to do is just be himself and not trying to find something that is not there and trying to be someone who is not him. I dont even know what I am trying to say.

Just be yourself however you want, Dan. Be happy. Be random. Be political. Be philosophical. I don't care. As long as you don't kill someone or do something unforgivable, I will still love you because I am a trash.

know what, just ignore me and this post. Lets plough the chicken

[angrymob]

I don't think this is it for canada? I think there are definitely more shows that haven't been announced yet, but of course i could be wrong.

I just took a look at the tour dates, and unless they extend the tour (which I wouldn't really want them to do, as it looks like a long and chaotic tour to begin with), the only way I could see them fitting in the other two major Canadian cities would be to replace the first sold out Toronto show with Montreal and tack Vancouver on as a final date since they end the tour on the west coast. I personally think they just sort of forgot about Canada because North American tours are super feasible with good planning. Hopefully you are right though and they have a plan that involves Canada and not wearing themselves thin.

know what, just ignore me and this post. Lets plough the chicken

Plough the metaphorical chicken!

[akui]

Here you go crafties

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Happy April Fools Day everyone